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As the title suggests, this is an XI of the most disappointing players of the ICC World Cup 2019 so far. What I mean by "disappointing" generally is that the player has not lived up to their respective hype and expectations so far in the tournament. In other words, the performances of a disappointing player may not be bad in comparison to other players, but are disappointing by the standards and expectations they have set. In some cases however, their performances have just been bad.

My Disappointing XI:

1. Hashim Amla
2. Martin Guptill
3. Tamim Iqbal
4. Kusal Mendis
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Marcus Stoinis
7. Andre Russell
8. Moeen Ali
9. Hasan Ali
10. Rashid Khan
11. Kagiso Rabada

What changes would you make? What's your disappointing XI? Discuss....
 
I feel Shoaib Malik should be there to carry drinks.... (that bad!)
 
I feel Shoaib Malik should be there to carry drinks.... (that bad!)

To be fair to Malik bhai, no one in the known universe (except team management) expected anything from him based on his track record in UK. So he didn't disappoint technically, he performed exactly as was expected from him.

And for that, he's ineligible to be part of this team.
 
To be fair to Malik bhai, no one in the known universe (except team management) expected anything from him based on his track record in UK. So he didn't disappoint technically, he performed exactly as was expected from him.

And for that, he's ineligible to be part of this team.

Exactly my thinking, don't think many people were surprised by his perfomances.
 
Amla
De Kock (WK)
Faf
Taylor
Miller
Kedar
Russel
Mehidy Miraj
Mashrafee (C)
Rashid Khan
Rabada
 
Andre russuel is a mickey mouse cricket player and was expected from him to fail on big occasion.
 
Maybe some merit in adding Kohli here? He has been great by the standards of most batsmen, but not the same devastating Kohli we have seen over the years.
 
As the title suggests, this is an XI of the most disappointing players of the ICC World Cup 2019 so far. What I mean by "disappointing" generally is that the player has not lived up to their respective hype and expectations so far in the tournament. In other words, the performances of a disappointing player may not be bad in comparison to other players, but are disappointing by the standards and expectations they have set. In some cases however, their performances have just been bad.

My Disappointing XI:

1. Hashim Amla
2. Martin Guptill
3. Tamim Iqbal
4. Kusal Mendis
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Marcus Stoinis
7. Andre Russell
8. Moeen Ali
9. Hasan Ali
10. Rashid Khan
11. Kagiso Rabada

What changes would you make? What's your disappointing XI? Discuss....

BUT BUT BUT

According to the expert [MENTION=148927]Hyperion66[/MENTION]

Tamim > Fakhar in ODIs as a batsman.
 
BUT BUT BUT

According to the expert [MENTION=148927]Hyperion66[/MENTION]

Tamim > Fakhar in ODIs as a batsman.

According to analyst extraordinaire Topspin here, Fakhar who hasn't played 50 matches is already better than a veteran like Tamim with a decade long career and 8500+ runs!!

The audacity and confidence!! :salute:salute

Kaha se aate hai ye log? :jimmy
 
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Worst World Cup XI 2019 (So Far)

Obviously the group stage isn't done yet...so this list can still change...it's just so far...before the SL/England game Matthews for instance was a shoe in for this list...I haven't simply picked the 11 worst players...hence why Ikram isn't here for instance...players in this list have played at least 3 games...


Hashim Amla
With AB done the old guns needed to step up ...and step up Amla most certainly didn't...a SR under 60...and he hasn't even gone on to score...

James Vince

He's no Alex Roy...nor Hales...but I guess an average of 13 with a SR under 80 just shows how poor a substitute he really is...

Aidan Markram
Just a poor return this...looked decent for Hampshire but has just failed in this tournament...

Tom Latham (Wk)
Hope I haven't jinxed this...he's done nothing so far with the bat...

Shoaib Malik
Probably the easiest choice here...8 runs from 3 innings...an awful WC and a sad end to what has been a decent career...

Moeen Ali
The man for the pressure situations has holed out in almost every one of those situations...Pakistan, Sri Lanka and now Australia...his bowling hasn't been that bad but it's hardly been anything to write home about either...

Thisara Perera
An all rounder who can't bat or take wickets...he's bowled alright in patches but one wicket all tournament and no worthwhile batting displays made him an easy choice...

Rashid Khan
This is one of those didn't live up to expectations picks...Worst figures ever in a WC match and has been extremely disappointing overall...don't think anyone expected Mujeeb to outperform him as much as he has...

Hasan Ali
Been awful for a while and seemed to get even worse during this tournament...7.75 economy and just the one wicket in the tournament...

Mashrafe Mortaza
Can't buy a wicket can he...as his average of 264 shows...and his containment is at over 6 an over...Saifuddin and the Fizz are marginally more expensive with 10 times as many wickets...

Kagiso Rabada
This is one of those expectations ones again...Just expected so much more from him...other than his performance against India he's been pretty below par all tournament...
 
According to analyst extraordinaire Topspin here, Fakhar who hasn't played 50 matches is already better than a veteran like Tamim with a decade long career and 8500+ runs!!

The audacity and confidence!! :salute:salute

Kaha se aate hai ye log? :jimmy

Longevity means nothing when Tamim has had a modest ODI career.

But anyway, we're talking about who's the superior bat at present (and in recent times) i.e. last two years, otherwise using your logic I can say Amir > Archer in ODIs, merely because the former has played 5 times as many games in this format of the game, but we know the England bowler is significantly superior to him. Another reason why I've used this example is because Tamim has also been capped 5 times more than Fakhar in ODIs.

I expect Fakhar to finish his ODI career with 100 caps, with an average excess of at least 40 and a strike rate of at least 85. Note - this is assuming if he finishes with a rocky ending. Statistically, Fakhar is so far ahead, it's not even comparison. Just admit you were ignorant of the facts, rather than trying to save face here, because after all you will always be exposed as a novice reader of the game.
 
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The whole South African team with the exception of Rassie Van Der Dussen and Tahir, and maybe Morris.
 
Longevity means nothing when Tamim has had a modest ODI career.

Fakhar is yet to have a modest one, you just can't issue certificate of greatness based on 40 something matches

But anyway, we're talking about who's the superior bat at present (and in recent times) i.e. last two years, otherwise using your logic I can say Amir > Archer in ODIs, merely because the former has played 5 times as many games in this format of the game, but we know the England bowler is significantly superior to him. Another reason why I've used this example is because Tamim has also been capped 5 times more than Fakhar in ODIs.

Of course Amir is a better bowler than Archer based on current form!! Archer played 10 odis so far 10!! When and how did Archer become so "Significantly superior" than Amir? Good lord, this guy!!:jimmy

I expect Fakhar to finish his ODI career with 100 caps, with an average excess of at least 40 and a strike rate of at least 85. Note - this is assuming if he finishes with a rocky ending. Statistically, Fakhar is so far ahead, it's not even comparison. Just admit you were ignorant of the facts, rather than trying to save face here, because after all you will always be exposed as a novice reader of the game.

Seriously man? 3000+ posts and you come up with this? if you hatch eggs in a debate all you will be left with is hyperbole. How do you know Fakhar won't fizzle out like Nasir jamshid, Ahmed Shahzad or Yasir Hameed? How can you compare a dude with 40 odi experience with a guy that played 200 in the first place!! What Stats and facts you are talking about? Shahzad, Umar, Hasan, Junaid all had ATGesque stat as some point or the other, how have they turned out?
 
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[MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION] I really appreciate that you finally gathered the courage to quote/mention me directly instead of talking behind my back like you usually do. A welcome development.
 
Obviously the group stage isn't done yet...so this list can still change...it's just so far...before the SL/England game Matthews for instance was a shoe in for this list...I haven't simply picked the 11 worst players...hence why Ikram isn't here for instance...players in this list have played at least 3 games...


Hashim Amla
With AB done the old guns needed to step up ...and step up Amla most certainly didn't...a SR under 60...and he hasn't even gone on to score...

James Vince

He's no Alex Roy...nor Hales...but I guess an average of 13 with a SR under 80 just shows how poor a substitute he really is...

Aidan Markram
Just a poor return this...looked decent for Hampshire but has just failed in this tournament...

Tom Latham (Wk)
Hope I haven't jinxed this...he's done nothing so far with the bat...

Shoaib Malik
Probably the easiest choice here...8 runs from 3 innings...an awful WC and a sad end to what has been a decent career...

Moeen Ali
The man for the pressure situations has holed out in almost every one of those situations...Pakistan, Sri Lanka and now Australia...his bowling hasn't been that bad but it's hardly been anything to write home about either...

Thisara Perera
An all rounder who can't bat or take wickets...he's bowled alright in patches but one wicket all tournament and no worthwhile batting displays made him an easy choice...

Rashid Khan
This is one of those didn't live up to expectations picks...Worst figures ever in a WC match and has been extremely disappointing overall...don't think anyone expected Mujeeb to outperform him as much as he has...

Hasan Ali
Been awful for a while and seemed to get even worse during this tournament...7.75 economy and just the one wicket in the tournament...

Mashrafe Mortaza
Can't buy a wicket can he...as his average of 264 shows...and his containment is at over 6 an over...Saifuddin and the Fizz are marginally more expensive with 10 times as many wickets...

Kagiso Rabada
This is one of those expectations ones again...Just expected so much more from him...other than his performance against India he's been pretty below par all tournament...


Good interesting post.
 
Maybe some merit in adding Kohli here? He has been great by the standards of most batsmen, but not the same devastating Kohli we have seen over the years.

For this standards yes, but tbf his Afghan knock when the team bottled it was good also played good sidekick knocks.
 
Not taking from the expectation pov but from stature and experience pov

Amla
Guptil
Dhoni
Malik
Mashrafe
Moen
Rabada
Hassan


Have been absolute liabilities to their teams.
 
Buttler has been a bit disappointing so far. Barring the hundred vs Pakistan, he hasn't dominated as i expected him to.
 
TBH no one was expecting anything from hashim amla , stoinis , hasan ali and moeen ali.

Everyone expect from pakistan selectors knew that malik would fail.

I would like to include Taylor in the 11.
 
Tamim Iqbal - Poorest strike rate opening the innings at 74 also a terrible runner and got Soumya Sarkar runout against Australia. Scored only 1 50 that's in one of the flattest pitches in WC, SR 70 odd while chasing 380. Rubbish and overrated

Soumya Sarkar - I had high hopes from him, hasn't scored a single 50, he gives us good starts but what's the point if Tamim eats up the balls. Weirdest combination ever.

Bairstow - (50s against Bangladesh and Afghanistan = flattest pitches ever) 'New England' - was only created to bash our trundlers. Another overrated batsman

De Kock (wk) - If you look at him you can tell he can get out any moment, chokes behind the stumps and chokes while batting. Caught KW but didn't appeal and stopped Tahir from reviewing

Ross Taylor - By his standard it's very poor, not a single hundred

Malik - 8,0,0

Marcus Stoinis - Very disappointing with the bat, leaked plenty of runs

Mashrafee Bin Mortaza urf MP (Captain) - Can't bowl, can't field and can't bat. It's embarrassing watching him opening the bowling at 120 kph, he is being very selfish, I don't call this bravery rather stupidity. He picked up only one wicket of Bairstow (after he got set) in 6 matches, see I even remember his wicket. It's that bad.

Rashid Khan - This is his first wc, he will bounce back in 2023 in India

Rubel Hossain - He needs to retire :facepalm:

Imran Tahir - I don't like his celebrations that's good enough to put him there. We were on top and he got Shakib's wicket went for a marathon run and his team mates just gave him 'dude watcha doing' look

Special mention to Sabbir - Guy needs to stop thinking he is a superstar and come back to reality, as Mosaddek has sealed his place, maybe it's time to sell chana in the streets for him.
 
Obviously the group stage isn't done yet...so this list can still change...it's just so far...before the SL/England game Matthews for instance was a shoe in for this list...I haven't simply picked the 11 worst players...hence why Ikram isn't here for instance...players in this list have played at least 3 games...


Hashim Amla
With AB done the old guns needed to step up ...and step up Amla most certainly didn't...a SR under 60...and he hasn't even gone on to score...

James Vince

He's no Alex Roy...nor Hales...but I guess an average of 13 with a SR under 80 just shows how poor a substitute he really is...

Aidan Markram
Just a poor return this...looked decent for Hampshire but has just failed in this tournament...

Tom Latham (Wk)
Hope I haven't jinxed this...he's done nothing so far with the bat...

Shoaib Malik
Probably the easiest choice here...8 runs from 3 innings...an awful WC and a sad end to what has been a decent career...

Moeen Ali
The man for the pressure situations has holed out in almost every one of those situations...Pakistan, Sri Lanka and now Australia...his bowling hasn't been that bad but it's hardly been anything to write home about either...

Thisara Perera
An all rounder who can't bat or take wickets...he's bowled alright in patches but one wicket all tournament and no worthwhile batting displays made him an easy choice...

Rashid Khan
This is one of those didn't live up to expectations picks...Worst figures ever in a WC match and has been extremely disappointing overall...don't think anyone expected Mujeeb to outperform him as much as he has...

Hasan Ali
Been awful for a while and seemed to get even worse during this tournament...7.75 economy and just the one wicket in the tournament...

Mashrafe Mortaza
Can't buy a wicket can he...as his average of 264 shows...and his containment is at over 6 an over...Saifuddin and the Fizz are marginally more expensive with 10 times as many wickets...

Kagiso Rabada
This is one of those expectations ones again...Just expected so much more from him...other than his performance against India he's been pretty below par all tournament...

Can we add Sarfaraz Ahmed to this list? Hasn’t really done any great job with batting or keeping plus has been a below average captain with team selection & field placements.
 
As the title suggests, this is an XI of the most disappointing players of the ICC World Cup 2019 so far. What I mean by "disappointing" generally is that the player has not lived up to their respective hype and expectations so far in the tournament. In other words, the performances of a disappointing player may not be bad in comparison to other players, but are disappointing by the standards and expectations they have set. In some cases however, their performances have just been bad.

My Disappointing XI:

1. Hashim Amla
2. Martin Guptill
3. Tamim Iqbal
4. Kusal Mendis
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Marcus Stoinis
7. Andre Russell
8. Moeen Ali
9. Hasan Ali
10. Rashid Khan
11. Kagiso Rabada

What changes would you make? What's your disappointing XI? Discuss....

First, this list should be for players those were expected to perform. Players like Malik, Mashrafee or even Stoinis shouldn't be considered because expectation was quite low for them.

I think, they'll need one WK for your squad - this'll be my XI

1. Hashim Amla
2. Martin Guptill
3. Tamim Iqbal
4. Johnny Bairstowe
5. Tom Latham (WK)
6. Glenn Maxwell
7. Andre Russell
8. Rashid Khan
9. Hasan Ali
10. Kuldeep Yadav
11. Kagiso Rabada
 
1. Fakhar
2. Bairstow
3. Amla
4. Faf du Plessis (c)
5. Buttler (wk)
6. Maxwell
7. Russell
8. Moeen Ali
9. Hasan Ali
10. Rabada
11. Kuldeep
 
My :dw 11
1.Hashim Amla
2.Chris Gayle
3.Markram
4.S.Hope(wk)
5.Morgan(c)
6.Malik
7.Russell
8.Moeen
9.Rabada
10.Hasan
11.Ngidi
 
Dhoni and Malik cases are similar. Didn't expect much from them but still hurt seeing their performances.
 
My :dw 11
1.Hashim Amla
2.Chris Gayle
3.Markram
4.S.Hope(wk)
5.Morgan(c)
6.Malik
7.Russell
8.Moeen
9.Rabada
10.Hasan
11.Ngidi

I think is Gayle is a great shout, his scores so far have been 50, 21, 36, 0, 87. These are some pretty good returns, but after his big performances in that series vs England earlier this year, I thought he would've scored more big scores, going into 3 figures too.
 
I said for a long time that Rabada has been short of rhythm and thats the reason he has been so poor. His length is too short at this level to get good batsman out.
 
First, this list should be for players those were expected to perform. Players like Malik, Mashrafee or even Stoinis shouldn't be considered because expectation was quite low for them.

I think, they'll need one WK for your squad - this'll be my XI

1. Hashim Amla
2. Martin Guptill
3. Tamim Iqbal
4. Johnny Bairstowe
5. Tom Latham (WK)
6. Glenn Maxwell
7. Andre Russell
8. Rashid Khan
9. Hasan Ali
<b>10. Kuldeep Yadav</b>
11. Kagiso Rabada

Yadav hasn't disappointed his countrymen for whom the streak is of second most importance after actually winning the WC. He buried the Pakistani innings getting the two set batsmen out.

An economy rate of 4.52 per over is pretty good too:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s=2;template=results;type=bowling;view=series
 
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Malik should be in reserves if anyone from disappointing get injured he replaces them he is that bad
 
I think is Gayle is a great shout, his scores so far have been 50, 21, 36, 0, 87. These are some pretty good returns, but after his big performances in that series vs England earlier this year, I thought he would've scored more big scores, going into 3 figures too.
Why i am disappointed with him is that he doesn't learn to rotate strike.Just brainless hitting.In his 87 knock he was dropped so many times yet he was going for those big shots.A cricketer who has played for this many years and when the team depends on him needs to be a bit sensible.Tbh their whole team bats like this and have been a letdown despite boasting such talent
 
Let's not include Amla and Malik on this list. None was expecting them to be world beaters.
 
Can we add Sarfaraz Ahmed to this list? Hasn’t really done any great job with batting or keeping plus has been a below average captain with team selection & field placements.

Still gonna suggest Sarfaraz over Latham???...
 
Tamim Iqbal - Poorest strike rate opening the innings at 74 also a terrible runner and got Soumya Sarkar runout against Australia. Scored only 1 50 that's in one of the flattest pitches in WC, SR 70 odd while chasing 380. Rubbish and overrated

Soumya Sarkar - I had high hopes from him, hasn't scored a single 50, he gives us good starts but what's the point if Tamim eats up the balls. Weirdest combination ever.

Bairstow - (50s against Bangladesh and Afghanistan = flattest pitches ever) 'New England' - was only created to bash our trundlers. Another overrated batsman

De Kock (wk) - If you look at him you can tell he can get out any moment, chokes behind the stumps and chokes while batting. Caught KW but didn't appeal and stopped Tahir from reviewing

Ross Taylor - By his standard it's very poor, not a single hundred

Malik - 8,0,0

Marcus Stoinis - Very disappointing with the bat, leaked plenty of runs

Mashrafee Bin Mortaza urf MP (Captain) - Can't bowl, can't field and can't bat. It's embarrassing watching him opening the bowling at 120 kph, he is being very selfish, I don't call this bravery rather stupidity. He picked up only one wicket of Bairstow (after he got set) in 6 matches, see I even remember his wicket. It's that bad.

Rashid Khan - This is his first wc, he will bounce back in 2023 in India

Rubel Hossain - He needs to retire :facepalm:

Imran Tahir - I don't like his celebrations that's good enough to put him there. We were on top and he got Shakib's wicket went for a marathon run and his team mates just gave him 'dude watcha doing' look

Special mention to Sabbir - Guy needs to stop thinking he is a superstar and come back to reality, as Mosaddek has sealed his place, maybe it's time to sell chana in the streets for him.

Bairstow is a good shout...
 
Yet another disappointing showing from Chris Gayle today vs India, scoring 6 off 19 deliveries. Think that just about seals his place in this XI, barring any spectacular performances in their remaining two games. Even then, the West Indies have been eliminated, so it would be too little too late from the "Universe Boss". Very disappointing indeed. Would any other West Indian batsmen make it into this Disappointing XI, considering the high promise for them leading into this World Cup?
 
After a thrilling game between Pakistan and Afghanistan today, in which both teams tried their hardest to lose, would you make any changes to your Disappointing XI? I personally think Fakhar Zaman is quite close to nailing an opener spot in the XI.
 
Agree with the above...surely Gulbadin has to be the captain of this side...
 
Nobody mentioned Hafeez so far, what a disappointment he has been since the England game. Singlehandedly got us under pressure against Australia, India, NZ and now Afghanistan.

Hard choice to select keeper with Sarfraz, Latham & Dhoni performing splendidly. De Kock hasnt looked hopeless atleast,
 
De Kock
Guptill
Tamim
Tom Latham(keeper)
Moeen Ali
Thisara Perera
Andre Russell
Rashid Khan
Hasan Ali
Kagiso Rabada
Oshane Thomas
 
Hafeez as captain? Or do we still think he’s done his job as a ‘senior’ and contributed in winning matches ?
 
Pedigree, if you have it, you have it.

Australia has it in abundance, so do India, to some extent even Pakistan.

Look at Australia just raising there game when it actually matters. Not a single player from their team even Maxwell disappoints regularly
 
Flop XI of World Cup 2019(Teams that didn't qualify for SF)

  1. Chris Gayle
  2. QDK
  3. Fakhar Zaman
  4. Angelo Mathew
  5. Sarfraz Ahmed
  6. David Miller
  7. Andre Russell
  8. Rashid Khan
  9. Rabada
  10. Hasan Ali
  11. Mashrafe Mortaza


Your list?
 
Imam
Fakhar
Guptill
Angelo matthews
Dhoni
Russell
Moeen Ali
Rashid khan
Rabada
Mashrafe mortaza
Hasan Ali

Goes to show why Aussies are on top. Almost everyone from their team contributes.
 
Six of the World Cup's 10 teams are heading back home after missing out on the semi-finals following the conclusion of the group stage on Saturday.

England, Australia, India and New Zealand still have their eyes on the prize, but here AFP Sport takes a look at five players who failed to live up to expectations:

Chris Gayle (West Indies)

Chris Gayle seldom fired for the West Indies in his eight innings as his side failed to make the last four.

Gayle, 39, managed 242 runs including two fifties to end his World Cup career -- he played in five editions of the 50-over tournament -- on a disappointing note.

The self-styled "universe boss" started with a 50 in his team's opening win over Pakistan, but struggled to convert starts into big scores for most of the tournament.

The one-time six-hitting machine faltered against pace and spin, but got a rousing send-off in his last game against Afghanistan, even making waves on Twitter with an 'End of an era' hashtag to mark his World Cup farewell.

Gayle finished with 1,186 runs from 35 World Cup matches.

Rashid Khan (Afghanistan)

Rashid Khan came into the World Cup as cricket's hottest property after catching the eye with his leg spinners for minnows Afghanistan.

But the Twenty20 sensation, who played a leading role for many sides in franchise cricket across the globe, claimed only six wickets in nine games as the Afghans returned winless.

Skipper Gulbadin Naib defended his premier spinner, who is number one in the T20 rankings, after their final loss to West Indies, saying "he gives 100 percent but it's bad luck".

But the 20-year-old Rashid, who made the world take notice of his art when he became the fastest to take 100 ODI wickets, in 44 matches, still has a long way to go.

Mashrafe Mortaza (Bangladesh)

Mashrafe Mortaza started the tournament by leading Bangladesh to a shock victory over South Africa as he became the country's most successful ODI captain with four World Cup wins.

But the 35-year-old struggled with his own form as the seamer claimed just one wicket from eight matches.

The sting was missing from Mashrafe's bowling as he seldom completed his quota of 10 overs, relying on the team's other quicks to do the job.

The end came with his team's disappointing loss to Pakistan and Mashrafe signed off by saying: "We are extremely sorry that we couldn't lend a helping hand to Shakib (Al Hasan) who batted, bowled and fielded very well in every match in this tournament."

Hashim Amla (South Africa)


One of South Africa's most dependable players in the last five years, Amla scored just 203 runs in his seven World Cup outings.

The opener did hit two half-centuries but one came in a losing cause and the other was delivered in a consolation win after the Proteas had fallen out of the semi-finals race.

Amla's woes often put Faf du Plessis' side in trouble in the first 10 overs and the rest of the batting did little to make up for it.

He remains a cherished figure in South Africa though and when he scored an unbeaten 80 against Sri Lanka, veteran commentator Harsha Bhogle wrote on Twitter: "So happy to see Hashim Amla get runs. One of the greats of our era."

Hasan Ali (Pakistan)

A lot was expected of the right-arm quick who had starred for Pakistan in his team's 2017 Champions Trophy triumph in England.

But the speedster disappointed after claiming just two wickets in four games and failing to check the flow of runs.

He was dropped after returning figures of 1-84 in his nine overs in the team's thrashing against arch rivals India.

And the fastest bowler to take 50 wickets for Pakistan remained benched for the rest of the tournament.

https://www.afp.com/en/news/824/five-cricket-world-cup-flops-doc-1id6y93
 
In current World cup, Dhoni made 239 runs in 7 innings (2No) at an average of 44.6, SR: 94.
And he’s part of the brittle Indian middle order, from whom no one expected anything. LOL

Both average and SR of Dhoni are higher than Harris, Fakhar, Sarfaraz and EVEN Imam. In addition, Dhoni has instrumented some crazy catches, Stumpings and run outs.

More importantly, Dhoni, being the most successful and inspiring Indian captain ever, acts as Guru-captain of Kohli.

And there are people here who want to put Dhoni into this list.

A half blind, lame, 60yr old Dhoni will get into almost any team, including Pakistan, solely on the basis of performance and value-addition.
 
In current World cup, Dhoni made 239 runs in 7 innings (2No) at an average of 44.6, SR: 94.
And he’s part of the brittle Indian middle order, from whom no one expected anything. LOL

Both average and SR of Dhoni are higher than Harris, Fakhar, Sarfaraz and EVEN Imam. In addition, Dhoni has instrumented some crazy catches, Stumpings and run outs.

More importantly, Dhoni, being the most successful and inspiring Indian captain ever, acts as Guru-captain of Kohli.

And there are people here who want to put Dhoni into this list.

A half blind, lame, 60yr old Dhoni will get into almost any team, including Pakistan, solely on the basis of performance and value-addition.

Here's why no one should go by pure stats.

Dhoni ended up not out against England and West Indies which boosted his average. For both his knocks he was almost unanimously panned by every cricketing expert on the planet.
 
Bud.. Why you are comparing Dhoni to pak team. Dhoni is purely listed for failure on batting.

Where are big shots of him? Where are pulling, hooking, driving strokes.

Do you think Dhoni can chase 350 score in current form?
 
As against an ageing flop Dhoni’s average of 44.6 at SR: 94, Smith, the super star Kohli-beater and next Bradman from Australia, is averaging 32.7 at SR 91.3.

And Khawaja, the greatest overseas Pakistani batsmen and Australia’s next hope’ is averaging 35 at SR: 88 ROFL
 
Bud.. Why you are comparing Dhoni to pak team. Dhoni is purely listed for failure on batting.

Where are big shots of him? Where are pulling, hooking, driving strokes.

Do you think Dhoni can chase 350 score in current form?

And who has chased 350 score in this CWC??
 
Here's why no one should go by pure stats.


Dhoni ended up not out against England and West Indies which boosted his average. For both his knocks he was almost unanimously panned by every cricketing expert on the planet.

So let’s not go by stats, but gut feel?. Dhoni comes after India’s famed top order. He will not get much bowls to play but will remain not out many times. That’s true for all middle-order batsmen.

Amateurs discuss anecdotes, Professionals talk numbers.

As i mentioned, batting is not even 50% of Dhoni’s contribution. Still his batting is better than Smith, Imam, Khawaja, Harris.
 
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And who has chased 350 score in this CWC??

In past dhoni has chased many 300 + scores with his enthralling shots but now it is pushing ball to fielders.

If Dhoni had retired 2 years back, we might have an opportunity to train young keepers for worldcup which would make our middle order stronger.
 
In past dhoni has chased many 300 + scores with his enthralling shots but now it is pushing ball to fielders.

If Dhoni had retired 2 years back, we might have an opportunity to train young keepers for worldcup which would make our middle order stronger.

You are comparing today’s Dhoni with 25yr old Dhoni. That’s not practical unless you invent time travel.

I am comparing Dhoni with today’s Imam, Smith, Khawaja, Harris, Ross Taylor, Neesham, Sarfaraz and every wicketkeeper or middle order batsmen in any team.

We played 4 wicketkeepers in last match. A world record. LOL How much more opportunities do you want to give to young wicketkeepers. What better training can these young guns get than playing in a world cup under the guidance of Dhoni!
 
1. Chris Gayle
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Shai Hope
4. Virat Kohli (c)
5. Jos Buttler (wk)
6. Jason Holder
7. Andre Russell
8. Rashid Khan
9. Kagiso Rabada
10. Oshane Thomas
11. Lungi Ngidi

I chose Kohli because he hasn't made a century yet, only fifties (some of them weren't even in pressure situations) and I was expecting him to be the top run scorer by now but he isn't
 
Kohli should be number one in this list though he’s performed really well but cause the guys standards are so high it been a below par performance from him in the word cup
 
Short of winning the world cup, any other achievement by Kohli in this world cup is unsatisfactory.
 
The whole South African team with the exception of Rassie Van Der Dussen and Tahir, and maybe Morris.

Pretty much this. Most of all Faf disappointed with HIS team. He's a masterful captain, not G. Smith-tier, but a great captain. He should have reached the semis. Instead, he chose to chase regularly with his strange balance in a team where the bowling is just as mediocre as the batting. A pathetic WC. AB's WC as captain was miles better.

That being said, Kohli really has to impress in his two remaining (I assume) WC games. So far he has been average.
 
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