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Do you consider Shahid Afridi an All Time Great in ODIs?

Without doubt.

Afridi has the highest impact factor (9.8) of any ODI player ever. That makes him the most dangerous player to ever play the game. He can win the match at any point in a game with bat, ball and fielding.
 
Without doubt imo

A player who takes a wicket a game and goes at less than 5 an over coupled with a score of 20 odd at a strike rate of 110+ Every game will walk into most ODI teams of any era
 
Joseph Gomes said:
No, he had a few memorable innings with the bat and a good ODI bowler (was great from 2007-2011) years). However, he's not an ATG
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That period for sure he was a top bowling all-rounder in LOIs - think he'd have made most people's world XIs around that time, batting at 8.
 
Slog said:
Without doubt imo

A player who takes a wicket a game and goes at less than 5 an over coupled with a score of 20 odd at a strike rate of 110+ Every game will walk into most ODI teams of any era
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To add to this he was electric in the field for most of his career and a great guy in the dressing room keeping everyone's spirits up.

Complete package for any limited overs team
 
He was striking at 115 when 80 was considered fast....
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Without doubt.

Afridi has the highest impact factor (9.8) of any ODI player ever. That makes him the most dangerous player to ever play the game. He can win the match at any point in a game with bat, ball and fielding.
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Do not forget celebration.

Kohli once tried to copy the Starman celebration and looked like a mere Starfish

:yk
 
No. A Pakistani great. That's all.

Although i genuinely respect him as a person.
 
Not really.

On his day he could take away the game and he was a entertaining player.
 
Spectrum said:
More than 7000 ODI runs
Close to 400 wickets
Strike rate close to 120
Respectable WC stats

Are these points enough to consider Shahid Afridi as ATG ODI player?
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Why is it a question? If you look at what he did across limited overs cricket, so Im including t20s, he was crucial in Paks early success in the format, he is still its most in demand face (attracted fans in England even when he could not perform) and in purely ODI terms, he is one of the greatest bowling all rounders of all times. I'm trying to think who was better. No one comes to mind.
 
GOAT.

Sobers would be scared to hold a bowl when Afridi is holding a bat.

Not only this, he would also be scared to hold a bat when Afridi was holding the bowl.

Afridi is a dream cricketer. He was Viv Richards +Shane Warne mould into one.

Unfortunately, his only problem was that he used to smell the bowl with the teeth.
 
No. Not an ATG by any stretch of the imagination. However, he was arguably just as good as Kapil Dev in this format and that is nothing to scoff at.
 
barah_admi said:
Why is it a question? If you look at what he did across limited overs cricket, so Im including t20s, he was crucial in Paks early success in the format, he is still its most in demand face (attracted fans in England even when he could not perform) and in purely ODI terms, he is one of the greatest bowling all rounders of all times. I'm trying to think who was better. No one comes to mind.
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Imran? Wasim? Abdul Razzaq?
 
It's too early to decide yet due to his young age and fact he has many years left in his career

I believe this youngster has great potential to be a great
 
He had a period where he was doing well in both facets of the game, but overall, he's been pretty mediocre. I mean a batting average of 24 and bowling average of 34 sums it up.
 
Afridi at 06-12 was amazing. Missed a lot of games during his prime due to some weird issues. The guy was really mediocre in his second stint after the 7-12 vs WI until WC'15. Damaged his statistics and most importantly reputation.

ATG easily. People need to look past his last 3-4 years and remember how lethal he was in all three departments.
 
One of the most entertaining cricketers to come from pakistan. But can't be considered an all time great with more failures than success in terms of batting.
 
Bilal7 said:
No. Not an ATG by any stretch of the imagination. However, he was arguably just as good as Kapil Dev in this format and that is nothing to scoff at.
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How was he just as good as kapil
Kapil avgs 27 with the ball and 24 with bat.
Kapils bowling was clearly much better.
 
All time great irresponsible player. He won lot of matches. But he also failed when needed the most. Definitely carved a niche for himself in history like Srikkanth. Both flawed entertainers. Definitely one of the most dangerous batsman ever to play cricket.
 
Nah ..are you Kidding OP.

But Afridi will always be one of my favourite Pak cricketer along with Inzamam :afridi
 
Saqlain is an ATG in Odi's, Jayasuria is an ATG, Symonds is an ATG, Bevan is an ATG. Afridi is a decent bowler at best vs great batting teams and his batting is too irresponsible to work vs good teams. A highly entertaining player who is not in the top 200 ODI cricketers of all time in my opinion. Calling him an ATG is a joke

Among all rounders in ODI's, among many others, i will take the following ones over him:

Akram
Jayasuria
Pollock
Imran
Hadlee
Dev
Klusener

Even Razzaq is better. The list goes on an on. He is neither a great odi bowler, nor a great odi batsmen. A guy who threw his potential away
 
Not even better than yuvraj Singh imo who was player of the tournament in 2011 WC but here some consider him an ATG. :ashwin
 
no

if he used his brain
he may have been

but he came out batting like a fool 9 out of 13 times
 
Afridi would have not played more than 50 matches if he would have represented for any of the top 10 ODI teams.
 
GrandMaster said:
Afridi would have not played more than 50 matches if he would have represented for any of the top 10 ODI teams.
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Afridi was blockbuster for PCB, compared to current lot no one comes close to :afridi in Star Power :19:

boom boom had cult following ..

Agree, :afridi underachieved for his talent !
 
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hk031992 said:
Saqlain is an ATG in Odi's, Jayasuria is an ATG, Symonds is an ATG, Bevan is an ATG. Afridi is a decent bowler at best vs great batting teams and his batting is too irresponsible to work vs good teams. A highly entertaining player who is not in the top 200 ODI cricketers of all time in my opinion. Calling him an ATG is a joke

Among all rounders in ODI's, among many others, i will take the following ones over him:

Akram
Jayasuria
Pollock
Imran
Hadlee
Dev
Klusener

Even Razzaq is better. The list goes on an on. He is neither a great odi bowler, nor a great odi batsmen. A guy who threw his potential away
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Jayasuriya isn't an ATG.
 
Bilal7 said:
Imran? Wasim? Abdul Razzaq?
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I don't think Akram or Razzaq were better ODI all rounders. Afridi was far superior to Razzaq with the ball and a much better striker than Wasim with the bat.

With Imran it's up for debate as his ODI career, by modern standards is quite short, so I probably wouldn't directly compare the two.
 
He was a Pakistani great but not an all-time great imo. Consistency was his biggest problem in his playing days.
 
An average of 23.57 with the bat and 34.51 with the ball. Do they look like to be of a Pakistani great, let alone an ATG? Now we'll hear how he was beyond numbers, blah, blah, blah.

He was miserable with the bat for someone who was hailed as being able to decimate attacks. As for his bowling, he was once again below average, his average clearly suggests so. That bowling average further gets worse when you exclude minnows.
 
Mercurial said:
Jayasuriya isn't an ATG.
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Neither is Symonds.

barah_admi said:
I don't think Akram or Razzaq were better ODI all rounders. Afridi was far superior to Razzaq with the ball and a much better striker than Wasim with the bat.

With Imran it's up for debate as his ODI career, by modern standards is quite short, so I probably wouldn't directly compare the two.
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I think Razzaq at his best was a better all-rounder than Afridi at his best. However, Afridi had the more successful career. Wasim was definitely inferior to Afridi with the bat but was far better with the ball.

jeeteshssaxena said:
How was he just as good as kapil
Kapil avgs 27 with the ball and 24 with bat.
Kapils bowling was clearly much better.
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They have identical batting averages but Afridi was far more destructive with the bat. With the ball, Kapil has the advantage but on his day, Afridi was just phenomenal with the ball in hand.
 
It's foolish to call Afridi an ATG. He was nowhere close. Overall, a great player based on his longevity but not an ATG.

By the same token, Kapil Dev was no ATG either. A great player no doubt, but was unable to make the next step. The only ATG all-rounders in ODIs are Imran Khan and Shaun Pollock.
 
Bilal7 said:
It's foolish to call Afridi an ATG. He was nowhere close. Overall, a great player based on his longevity but not an ATG.

By the same token, Kapil Dev was no ATG either. A great player no doubt, but was unable to make the next step. The only ATG all-rounders in ODIs are Imran Khan and Shaun Pollock.
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At 25 years he led the India to win the world cup. He walked in at 17/5 and produced a breathtaking innings of 175 . One of the meanest bowler in the 80s. India won Rothman's, Benson & Hedges when he wsa the lead fast bowler for India. Atleast guys like Imran khan had support from AKram. He was the lone warrior. There was hardly any failure in his career right till the last year before his retirement.
 
Bilal7 said:
Neither is Symonds.



I think Razzaq at his best was a better all-rounder than Afridi at his best. However, Afridi had the more successful career. Wasim was definitely inferior to Afridi with the bat but was far better with the ball.



They have identical batting averages but Afridi was far more destructive with the bat. With the ball, Kapil has the advantage but on his day, Afridi was just phenomenal with the ball in hand.
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An avg of 27 is far better than 35.
So bowling wise they are not even comparable. If performance against minnows is excluded then afridi's avg becomes even worse.
Kapils str rate was 90+ in those days when even 80 was considered fabulous.
Kapil is clearly superior.
And if we take captaincy into consideration he will be a country mile ahead of afridi.
Plus kapil also has an atg knock in a wc must win match.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
An avg of 27 is far better than 35.
So bowling wise they are not even comparable. If performance against minnows is excluded then afridi's avg becomes even worse.
Kapils str rate was 90+ in those days when even 80 was considered fabulous.
Kapil is clearly superior.
And if we take captaincy into consideration he will be a country mile ahead of afridi.
Plus kapil also has an atg knock in a wc must win match.
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We should factor in Afridi's match losing reckless shots as well. They needed 17 runs in 4 overs. Lala came and took a swing and Pakistan ended up losing the match. I am pretty sure hardcore Pak fans would vouch for his failures in crunch times. REmember world T20 final where he didn't even settle in before swinging from the hips. He hit Irfan pathan straight up in the air.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
At 25 years he led the India to win the world cup. He walked in at 17/5 and produced a breathtaking innings of 175 . One of the meanest bowler in the 80s. India won Rothman's, Benson & Hedges when he wsa the lead fast bowler for India. Atleast guys like Imran khan had support from AKram. He was the lone warrior. There was hardly any failure in his career right till the last year before his retirement.
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24 years of age.
 
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