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This question is for Pakistanis in the diaspora. Do you have any indian friends? (or hindu indians, to be more specific)

If yes, how do you interact with them when there are tensions between india and Pakistan? Like 2002 military standoff, Mumbai 2008, or current tensions over Pulwama. Does it have an impact on your friendship?

I have no indian/hindu friends, and try to avoid any social interaction with indians unless it is completely unavoidable like tolerating them in the workplace. Even then i am tactful and avoid talking to them about politics or religion.
 
junoon said:
This question is for Pakistanis in the diaspora. Do you have any indian friends? (or hindu indians, to be more specific)

If yes, how do you interact with them when there are tensions between india and Pakistan? Like 2002 military standoff, Mumbai 2008, or current tensions over Pulwama. Does it have an impact on your friendship?

I have no indian/hindu friends, and try to avoid any social interaction with indians unless it is completely unavoidable like tolerating them in the workplace. Even then i am tactful and avoid talking to them about politics or religion.
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Dude, first thing you need to do is to not generalize and paint everybody with the same brush. Be genuine when you are speaking with someone. For example, you can ask an Indian as to why he thinks Pakistan is involved in this. But be ready for any logical points he makes. You can ask Indians about the same including why they killed muslims for eating beef. I asked both of these questions to my pals who I watch cricket with and have debates. If an Indian guy killed another Indian muslim for eating beef, dont assume your colleague or Indian friend doesa the same to a muslim guy. Democracy is debating. People have different opinions and its ok as long as the debate is objective.
 
Here, I'll even add some pointers you can ask you Indian colleagues if they are up for debate and are accusing Pakistan:

1) Why did this incident happen the same day Pakistan met all the FATF requirements. One of the actions they took was to assure that there is no support or financing to this Jaish organization.

2) How can the Indian intelligence not detect so much explosives in their own country

3) WHo will gain from this? Certainly not Pakistan. India has everything to gain politically. They have free reign in Kashmir again. They can just do whatever they want in the name of curbing terrorism and go to any lengths while garnering sympathy from the rest of the world. India has cornered CHina on the Jaish leader. Ive been reading up on news that China has been defending that guy but he claimed this attack. China cannot support this again especially when their tarrff war is on going with US. US is openly asking Pak to dismantle Jaish.

Tell your Indian colleague that your country is the victim here as this could cause financial ruin
 
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Yeah, I don't talk about political stuff or other boring stuff that are reserved for online discussions. Growing up I did have a some Indians throw shade at me about the Pakistani cricket team or Pakistanis being extremists but I never took it personally cause they were probably joking. I do remember back in school this one south indian kid telling me that Pakistan "stole" Kashmir from India, me - a Pakistani-American with Kashmiri heritage lol.
 
"tolerating" them? Seriously?

In that context, you can put filter for every Indian out here and avoid any interaction (tolerating) with us.
 
At previous job there were many Indians, remember seeing them high-fiving each other over the sir jee kal strike so that was awkward. I still have some friends from school but I get the feeling they are two-faced and not very pro-pakistani, maybe even write nasty posts about pakistan on youtube and other forums.

One interaction I remember is of an indian girl asking me bluntly why pakistanis like blowing up so much stuff and why are we such violent people. I guess that's what their media has them believe.
 
sjahmed23 said:
At previous job there were many Indians, remember seeing them high-fiving each other over the sir jee kal strike so that was awkward. I still have some friends from school but I get the feeling they are two-faced and not very pro-pakistani, maybe even write nasty posts about pakistan on youtube and other forums.

One interaction I remember is of an indian girl asking me bluntly why pakistanis like blowing up so much stuff and why are we such violent people. I guess that's what their media has them believe.
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Didn't you tell her she's a dumbo?
 
sjahmed23 said:
At previous job there were many Indians, remember seeing them high-fiving each other over the sir jee kal strike so that was awkward. I still have some friends from school but I get the feeling they are two-faced and not very pro-pakistani, maybe even write nasty posts about pakistan on youtube and other forums.

One interaction I remember is of an indian girl asking me bluntly why pakistanis like blowing up so much stuff and why are we such violent people. I guess that's what their media has them believe.
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Not sure which country you are based in, but a statement like that would be considered prejudiced here in the US.

I'm an American, of Indian descent, veteran who was deployed overseas, and I have friends who are of Indian and Pakistani descent (all 2nd generation Americans like myself). Kudos to the other poster who mentioned about not generalizing people. I conversed about this very incident yesterday with some of my buddies in the investment world. One of our portfolio companies has an overseas team in Pakistan and I had the chance to interact with them when managing our portfolio operations.

I only have positive data points towards my friends (obvious selection bias there) but among other acquaintance type interactions with Pakistani Americans, my data points are across the spectrum from super friendly to very aloof. This only reinforces that people are the same everywhere. Making statements like "tolerating Indians" that priceless poster above only shows how little their world knowledge is ... IMO.

I pity the parents of that misguided teen (assuming parents are also not misguided) and as a former soldier I absolutely pity the families of those 40+ soldiers.

To the OP - If you are going to demonize all people of Indian descent and avoid them, then you are losing out on some positive people interactions and dare I say possible good friends even.
 
I have lots of Indian friends. Hindus also. Very educated people and highly empathetic towards Kashmir. All of them say that Kashmir should get what the people of Kashmir want rather than what India tries to impose on them. Yes, they exist.
 
I have some. Not too proud of them. Most Indians are small and hateful.
 
mustang said:
Not sure which country you are based in, but a statement like that would be considered prejudiced here in the US.

I'm an American, of Indian descent, veteran who was deployed overseas, and I have friends who are of Indian and Pakistani descent (all 2nd generation Americans like myself). Kudos to the other poster who mentioned about not generalizing people. I conversed about this very incident yesterday with some of my buddies in the investment world. One of our portfolio companies has an overseas team in Pakistan and I had the chance to interact with them when managing our portfolio operations.

I only have positive data points towards my friends (obvious selection bias there) but among other acquaintance type interactions with Pakistani Americans, my data points are across the spectrum from super friendly to very aloof. This only reinforces that people are the same everywhere. Making statements like "tolerating Indians" that priceless poster above only shows how little their world knowledge is ... IMO.

I pity the parents of that misguided teen (assuming parents are also not misguided) and as a former soldier I absolutely pity the families of those 40+ soldiers.

To the OP - If you are going to demonize all people of Indian descent and avoid them, then you are losing out on some positive people interactions and dare I say possible good friends even.
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I didn't take any offence to it, it was in a casual setting, I grew up in NYC and I've heard a lot worse. But it is a fact that bollywood/indian media has been on an agenda to demonize Pakistan and Pakistanis so this stuff is expected.
 
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sjahmed23 said:
I didn't take any offence to it, it was in a casual setting, I grew up in NYC and I've heard a lot worse. But it is a fact that bollywood/indian media has been on an agenda to demonize Pakistan and Pakistanis so this stuff is expected.
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Well of course they will and possibly rightfully so within their own microcosm context just like Pakistan's movie industry (is it Lollywood?) will be. Think about this objectively without any sense of getting hurt because of what Bollywood says about your people. Every country's movie industry is naturally (read financially) incentivized to talk good about their own and talk about bad about perceived enemies. Pakistan's movie industry also does it to whatever extent and that is reality. Nobody is a saint here.

Imagine height of cold war - you think Hollywood will sing praises of Soviets or show them as bad guys? Every country's content industry tows this line.

I think because Pakistan's movie industry is not as dominant, Pakistanis being main followers of Bollywood (common language also helps this), they probably feel betrayed that the one big entertainment content they follow is also talking trash about them. If Indians had to follow Pakistan's movie industry because their own is not as good, they will complain exactly as you do. But fortunately for them (and unfortunately for y'all) that is not the case. So where is the actual fault here - Bollywood behaving like every other movie industry in the world or Pakistan's people largely following a foreign movie industry and ignoring their own?

Once you reason objectively and see Bollywood as a foreign industry (and not your own), I believe it does make sense.
 
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mustang said:
Well of course they will and possibly rightfully so within their own microcosm context just like Pakistan's movie industry (is it Lollywood?) will be. Think about this objectively without any sense of getting hurt because of what Bollywood says about your people. Every country's movie industry is naturally (read financially) incentivized to talk good about their own and talk about bad about perceived enemies. Pakistan's movie industry also does it to whatever extent and that is reality. Nobody is a saint here.

Imagine height of cold war - you think Hollywood will sing praises of Soviets or show them as bad guys? Every country's content industry tows this line.

I think because Pakistan's movie industry is not as dominant, Pakistanis being main followers of Bollywood (common language also helps this), they probably feel betrayed that the one big entertainment content they follow is also talking trash about them. If Indians had to follow Pakistan's movie industry because their own is not as good, they will complain exactly as you do. But fortunately for them (and unfortunately for y'all) that is not the case. So where is the actual fault here - Bollywood behaving like every other movie industry in the world or Pakistan's people largely following a foreign movie industry and ignoring their own?

Once you reason objectively and see Bollywood as a foreign industry (and not your own), I believe it does make sense.
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So you are saying it is okay if people follow propaganda? That's what the Germans did with the Nazis, are you saying that was okay aswell?

Bollywood or Indian media can do as it likes, as long as it stays objective and does not spread sensationalism and false narrative. e.g all terrorists are Pakistani and our jawaans are saints who absolutely never desecrate kashmiri freedom fighter dead bodies and post selfies with them.
 
sjahmed23 said:
So you are saying it is okay if people follow propaganda? That's what the Germans did with the Nazis, are you saying that was okay aswell?

Bollywood or Indian media can do as it likes, as long as it stays objective and does not spread sensationalism and false narrative. e.g all terrorists are Pakistani and our jawaans are saints who absolutely never desecrate kashmiri freedom fighter dead bodies and post selfies with them.
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I think you are missing my point. No movie industry in the world (Bollywood, Lollywood, Hollywood, Tollywood, Nollywood ... any ****wood) is objective and to expect one to be is not reality (has never been and will never be).
 
mustang said:
I think you are missing my point. No movie industry in the world (Bollywood, Lollywood, Hollywood, Tollywood, Nollywood ... any ****wood) is objective and to expect one to be is not reality (has never been and will never be).
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No, balance in media is okay since there is always two sides of the story, that is what you find in established first world countries (think fox news and cnbc/cnn). But what we see coming from India is one way rhetoric chalked up by politicians and head of state.
 
sjahmed23 said:
I didn't take any offence to it, it was in a casual setting, I grew up in NYC and I've heard a lot worse. But it is a fact that bollywood/indian media has been on an agenda to demonize Pakistan and Pakistanis so this stuff is expected.
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Did you face this kind of prejudice in NYC from whites or indian hindus?
 
junoon said:
Did you face this kind of prejudice in NYC from whites or indian hindus?
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LMAOO. Indians and Pakistanis are equally 2nd class citizens in US. Indians and Pakistanis become friends as both communicate in their native languages. There is no India-Pakistan tensions in North America (maybe apart from UK cause UK Desis are just idiots). UK Indian cricket fans are disgusting, they don't represent India. Also people are respectful enough to know sensitive topics don't go anywhere so no point in bringing them up with a Pakistani friend. All the cricket teams in Canada are filled with half being Indian and half being Pakistanis.
 
my best friends in north america are indians

there is no tension amongst pakistani and indian people abroad
 
Don't have any close friends since school but the ones I interact with I don't really differentiate from anyone else, just take them as they are. At school we used to josh each other with mock insults, but when I was growing up Indians and Pakistanis were generally seen as outsiders so they tended to group together.
 
“India vs Pakistan” doesn’t seem to exist here in USA. Even Chinese and Indians get along pretty well. An average American wouldn’t know any difference between these cultures.

Could be different in uk due to unique history and higher overall percentages of south Asian population.
 
junoon said:
Did you face this kind of prejudice in NYC from whites or indian hindus?
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Prejudice is a strong word, which can mean different things. In this part of world you have to learn to take it and give it back 2x stronger.
 
sjahmed23 said:
Prejudice is a strong word, which can mean different things. In this part of world you have to learn to take it and give it back 2x stronger.
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What kind of neighborhoods do you guys live in? Nobody cares if you are Indian or Pakistani or Bangladeshi in US. We have learned to live together because of law and because we live far away from treacherous politics.
 
The snobby remarks are common from both sides I have got multiple times on why i don't eat beef as to "you don't know what you are missing mann" and this is after I told em I'm vegetarian and don't eat any meat but they had to make a remark about beef.
 
rhony said:
What kind of neighborhoods do you guys live in? Nobody cares if you are Indian or Pakistani or Bangladeshi in US. We have learned to live together because of law and because we live far away from treacherous politics.
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That's true in Chicago uptown my current residence, but its not necessarily true across states, plus if one wants to take offense he/she'll because my mindset has become like that, its waste of time but that's how people become.
 
Chrish said:
“India vs Pakistan” doesn’t seem to exist here in USA. Even Chinese and Indians get along pretty well. An average American wouldn’t know any difference between these cultures.

Could be different in uk due to unique history and higher overall percentages of south Asian population.
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What you mean even Chinese and Indians? Where don't they get along, Indian businessmen all the time travel to China to get cheap products.
 
JaDed said:
What you mean even Chinese and Indians? Where don't they get along, Indian businessmen all the time travel to China to get cheap products.
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What I meant was despite their rivalry back home, they tend to put their political/ geographical differences aside when living in USA.

India and China aren't exactly friends in home countries.
 
rhony said:
What kind of neighborhoods do you guys live in? Nobody cares if you are Indian or Pakistani or Bangladeshi in US. We have learned to live together because of law and because we live far away from treacherous politics.
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Don't get me wrong, we all live with one another there's no animosity generally speaking. But I feel people who don't know about Pakistan and have learned everything about Pakistan from the media will have preconceived notions about it.
 
Nice casual racism going on here. "Tolerating Indians", "small and hateful", etc.
 
Realromeo said:
LMAOO. Indians and Pakistanis are equally 2nd class citizens in US. Indians and Pakistanis become friends as both communicate in their native languages. There is no India-Pakistan tensions in North America (maybe apart from UK cause UK Desis are just idiots). UK Indian cricket fans are disgusting, they don't represent India. Also people are respectful enough to know sensitive topics don't go anywhere so no point in bringing them up with a Pakistani friend. All the cricket teams in Canada are filled with half being Indian and half being Pakistanis.
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How are Asians second class citizens in the US? Racism in the US is overstated.
 
Yes and we don't discuss political stuff even when the political relations among the two countries are stable as we know they can go unstable anytime.

We have an unspoken rule to not include kashmir or any other border/war related taunt in cricket banter as that has soured some friendships in the past. End of the day they are just people, like you and me.
 
I have always had Indian friends over the years recent immigrants and 2nd gen like me. It is best to keep politics out of it as it can get heated (we didn't discuss the current situation on Friday) but we are all interact on a human level rather than an ethnic or national level.
 
Yes I do! They also know what subjects to avoid when talking to me.
 
Only recent interaction I had with an Indian was about quickbooks and that guy turned out to be pretty useless, wasted an hour of my valuable time.
 
One or two max.... Those are decent folks.



I generally stay away from Indians.
 
I don’t have any. My experiences with them at grad school and work have generally been negative, and I’ve learnt to keep my distance. I do have to encounter them at work, where I try to keep the contacts as minimal and professional as possible.
 
sjahmed23 said:
No, balance in media is okay since there is always two sides of the story, that is what you find in established first world countries (think fox news and cnbc/cnn). But what we see coming from India is one way rhetoric chalked up by politicians and head of state.
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Media is not the same as movie industry. Movie industry is a subset of media and is not known to be unbiased unlike news media in general.
 
Nostalgic said:
I don’t have any. My experiences with them at grad school and work have generally been negative, and I’ve learnt to keep my distance. I do have to encounter them at work, where I try to keep the contacts as minimal and professional as possible.
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I'm sorry for your experience Nostalgic, coz personally from your posts I can easily imagine wanting to talk to you and probably would pester you regarding Pakistani Music of 90s.
 
This Indian chest thumping only looks good in India. In Muslim countries they are often reminded who the boss is like that chef in Dubai who lost his job!:bhajji In the west they are also forced to behave as we give at least as much in return. For this reason the Indian community in the west doesn't mess with Pak at all, I get on fine with them. After this recent incident have completely shut up a few of them with a severe telling off! It is best to stick to Football, Cricket, Movies are Music when Indians and Pakistanis get together. By and large I have no problem with the Indian community which is why in the west we never have any hate incidents between the two communities.
 
JaDed said:
I'm sorry for your experience Nostalgic, coz personally from your posts I can easily imagine wanting to talk to you and probably would pester you regarding Pakistani Music of 90s.
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Well, there were some who did appear genuinely intrigued about Pakistan, but then in moments of weakness, the bile and vitriol would come spurting out. One got the feeling that the waters ran deep in whatever wellspring of resentment they were tapping into in those moments.
 
I have a lot of Indian friends, we generally don't talk politics and keep it professional.
 
I am sorry, I am an Indian and have Pakistan friends. We try to steer clear of any political talks and remain only as friends. We have had no issues over the last 10-12 years we have been friends. I don't meet too many Pakistan people in my day to day life. The whom I have met have been friendly and I have been likewise. There has been no animosity.
 
Was at a Subway near campus few mins ago, this Indian uncle with an associate was eyeing me for a while, very common when you see another desi in a country or city with not many of them. I knew he wanted to say hi to me, and he came over and said hi, hello, what are you studying here. He was very happy that he saw another desi here irrespective of whether I am from Pakistan or India, or what the current political climate is. We had a decent convo, he came here to open a convenience store as he had numerous branches through the country and let me know if I want to pursue business after my degree he’ll have a place for me. Before that about a day ago some Indian girl was serving me beef patties at the cafeteria and was surprised I spoke Hindi/Urdu, and as a joke was like “Hey you do know beef is banned in India right?” And I just responded in jest “Yeah that’s why I live in Pakistan”, and we just laughed.

My point is, all the issues and intensities that exist in Pakistan and India these days amongst the people who live there are mostly superficial and media and government driven. I bet if those Pakistanis or Indians actually came across the opposite countryman in any other situation, they’d be very cool and natural with each other.

Goes to show when you’re out of the subcontinent which is like it’s own planet, you can truly zoom out and see from the rest of the world’s perspective of how Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and the other countries lumped together are more or less the same thing. There’s an arbitrary boundary and maybe a difference in opinion here and there, but in general, you don’t take a lot of this supposed animosity very seriously at all.

I’m the real Mr Wordwide here, unifying two countries than that no show Pitbull ever will be.
 
So much arrogance, many Pakistanis in the US try to associate themselves as Indians.

So much for tolerating, lol
 
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Nice casual racism going on here. "Tolerating Indians", "small and hateful", etc.
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I think the actions of the last few days are ample proof. There is no point having Indian friends. I would suggest to avoid the idea as it would mostly be a fake and dishonest friendship as the issues are too many and too hurtful.
 
Suleiman said:
Was at a Subway near campus few mins ago, this Indian uncle with an associate was eyeing me for a while, very common when you see another desi in a country or city with not many of them. I knew he wanted to say hi to me, and he came over and said hi, hello, what are you studying here. He was very happy that he saw another desi here irrespective of whether I am from Pakistan or India, or what the current political climate is. We had a decent convo, he came here to open a convenience store as he had numerous branches through the country and let me know if I want to pursue business after my degree he’ll have a place for me. Before that about a day ago some Indian girl was serving me beef patties at the cafeteria and was surprised I spoke Hindi/Urdu, and as a joke was like “Hey you do know beef is banned in India right?” And I just responded in jest “Yeah that’s why I live in Pakistan”, and we just laughed.

My point is, all the issues and intensities that exist in Pakistan and India these days amongst the people who live there are mostly superficial and media and government driven. I bet if those Pakistanis or Indians actually came across the opposite countryman in any other situation, they’d be very cool and natural with each other.

Goes to show when you’re out of the subcontinent which is like it’s own planet, you can truly zoom out and see from the rest of the world’s perspective of how Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and the other countries lumped together are more or less the same thing. There’s an arbitrary boundary and maybe a difference in opinion here and there, but in general, you don’t take a lot of this supposed animosity very seriously at all.

I’m the real Mr Wordwide here, unifying two countries than that no show Pitbull ever will be.
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I remember meeting an old Indian man in Florida while on holiday and he said mama sure you don't each such and such burger as it has pork. Overseas we do mix a lot and gravitate to one another.
 
Blessed to have many indian friends. in general indians are the most tolerant, most rational, and least jingoistic people i have experienced.
 
no real indian friends per se. Have been with indian girls from time to time if that counts

generally theres no beef between me and them but we're not best friends either
 
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I think the actions of the last few days are ample proof. There is no point having Indian friends. I would suggest to avoid the idea as it would mostly be a fake and dishonest friendship as the issues are too many and too hurtful.
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I have to respectfully disagree.

Growing up in Birmingham and surounding areas, I grew up with many Indians and have a lot of Indian friends. Most see themselves as British Asian and see other brown people as British Asians too. The background only comes up when religion, politics or cricket is in the discussion. I have discussed politics with Indian friends and have said what I would write on this forum. Having differences doesn't mean you cannot be friends and no Indian Ive spoke to ever disagreed with giving Kashmiri's the right to choose their own future, with India or without. They would rather the political situation gets sorted so people would stop talking about something which is negative and only divides. A couple of guys were pro-India saying the land should be split with half given to India but the Indian girls frankly dont care much about politics in a far away land even it's part of their background.

It#s great to have Indian friends, they share so much in common esp food :inzi
 
Yes. Grown up with them and we're pretty close. A few of them have ranked up to the family level.
 
I have plenty of Indian friends both in personal and professional life. There have been a few that started discussing politics but then learned its best to stop and discuss it amongst themselves. Other than that, we leave politics out of it completely and just discuss day to day life, work, cricket, etc.
 
How are all of you interacting with your indian friends right now? Since Pakistan and india are literally in a state of war right now

Like i said earlier, it is best not to have any indian(hindu) friends. :)):))
 
Just fine.....I have kept conversation re the situation to a minimum and she is leaving work tomorrow so I won't have to speak about. She has bought it up but not in nasty way
 
Lol we haven’t even talked about it. My relations with my Indian friends and there’s with me have been normal. I don’t have fragile friendships that are built upon the feeble relationships between my friends’ countries and my own.
 
Lol i have two Indian bosses and work for a 99% Jewish owned and operated firm. Boy is it super awkward now
 
Lol I’ve had some interesting incidents with Indians recently
 
No close Hindu friends. Unfortunately, the cultures are too different to be able to mix closely. However, most of the Hindus that I've met and interacted with are kind people. As for Indian Muslims, they are pretty much Pakistanis, from my experiences with the exception of their accents. Have had many close friends from Hyderabad and Gujarat.
 
No Hindus that I can call 'Friends', but plenty of Muslim & Sikh Indian friends who have no time for the 'Guju-Chimp' and are pretty neutral on the current matter.
 
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In fact, an Indian family friend of ours, a Punjabi, is at our place right now and was sipping tea just moments ago next to me. He´s supposed to leave for India today in the evening. In fact, seeing the situation right now, we´re advising him not to go at all given that Punjab, of either sides, is a first contender for target in case of a foll-blown war between India and Pakistan - God forbid. He´s a neutral and a level-headed guy mind you.

At a personal level, I´ve two Indian friends, both I befriended through this wonderful forum, they being [MENTION=96424]RWAC[/MENTION] and [MENTION=45152]Saurav[/MENTION]. Here´s praying for the safety of their families. I pray that no war breaks out.
 
I do, he is absolutely furious with Modi atm and is convinced all this drama was so Modi can win the elections.
 
I am at work right now with a bunch of Indian colleagues. We are just giving each other knowing smiles and pretending nothing has happened.
 
The Majority of Hindus in the UK, Canada & USA have a 'blind' loyality to Modi.
This may be because they share the same Low-Caste Hindu Gujarati background.
I doubt whether I can ever be friends with a 'Modi-ite'.
 
I have to work with Indians and its quite uneasy recently. We act professionally but these days you can tell their is a tension in the air. I personally dont like it.
 
Most Pakistanis living abroad have Indian or Hindu friends.

I have plenty and most of us are of the consensus that whatever is happening is wrong. We try not going into specifics too much as it only leads to heated arguments and debates.

On normal days we have a great time. We chill, hang out. There isnt really much of a difference with us and them. I even visited India for a friends wedding recently on a Pakistani passport.
 
One of my closest friends is an Indian Hindu. I am having great pleasure in whatsapping him offensive videos that are circulating insulting Indian flying skills. I can see the blue read tick but he has not replied and I know he is burning inside and cursing me under his breath!

Despite the nationalism, if I ask him for help and vice versa, we will still be there for each other but WhatsApping him is such fun!
 
Waq said:
One of my closest friends is an Indian Hindu. I am having great pleasure in whatsapping him offensive videos that are circulating insulting Indian flying skills. I can see the blue read tick but he has not replied and I know he is burning inside and cursing me under his breath!

Despite the nationalism, if I ask him for help and vice versa, we will still be there for each other but WhatsApping him is such fun!
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Indian hindus can be intimidating with their towering height and in your face personality, but once they admit you in the wolf pack, they can be very good friends.
 
My close friend's circle include Indian Hindus and Pakistani Muslims and they get on quite well with each other, they hardly ever talk about the political/religious tensions between the two and even then will be critical/talk smack about their own countries. The uber nationalism/over the top patriotism is hardly ever present.

As a neutral its quite heartening as it doesn't ruin the environment and this is in Canada so its quite surprising to see other Canadian Pak/Indians write about their experiences here. But I've also noticed that many Pak/Indians usually only tend to hang out with others of their own nationality.
 
Pakistan and india are once again in a state of conflict right now after pahalgam.

How are you interacting with indians/hindus at school or workplace?
 
junoon said:
Pakistan and india are once again in a state of conflict right now after pahalgam.

How are you interacting with indians/hindus at school or workplace?
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It’s business as usual for expats. I doubt anyone holds grudges or breaks friendship over the latest terrorist attack in pahalgam.
 
Champ_Pal said:
It’s business as usual for expats. I doubt anyone holds grudges or breaks friendship over the latest terrorist attack in pahalgam.
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This morning I saw an India Hindu at the Gym as I could tell from his wrist Kautuka. He is not very fit and trying to do triceps curls and his technique is all over the place. I thought multiple times about engaging him because if he keeps doing it he will injure hie back.

There were 4-5 Indian women and they were also all over the place with their techniques.

I didn't talk to any of them due to the recent issue, otherwise I would have said something and generally I do and they are polite normal people.
 
I have some Indian friends and thankfully they are not BJP clowns. :inti

I used to play cricket for a club and that club had some Indian players. It was a mixed club (Pakistanis, Indians, Sri Lankans, and I was the sole Bangladeshi).
 
LordJames said:
This morning I saw an India Hindu at the Gym as I could tell from his wrist Kautuka. He is not very fit and trying to do triceps curls and his technique is all over the place. I thought multiple times about engaging him because if he keeps doing it he will injure hie back.

There were 4-5 Indian women and they were also all over the place with their techniques.

I didn't talk to any of them due to the recent issue, otherwise I would have said something and generally I do and they are polite normal people.
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Most of these people have never done a single work out their entire lives. Rey sedentary and skinny fat. They just realize that they are unfit when they hit 35 and try to start a gym without a trainer.

Please help them next time you see them. They will appreciate. Most of them are too shy to even ask for help.
 
I lost contacts with most of my friends including Indian friends. Used to have lots of desi (Pakistani, Afghan, Bangladeshi, Indian, and Sri Lankan) friends when I was in high school and when I used to play cricket.

They have moved to different cities and even countries. Many of them are now married with family commitments. I am also busy with my things. I am only in touch with a handful of old friends now.

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junoon said:
Pakistan and india are once again in a state of conflict right now after pahalgam.

How are you interacting with indians/hindus at school or workplace?
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You know there are Hindus in Pakistan too right?
 
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