Does India’s cricket success depends solely on Jasprit Bumrah?

[IAJ]

He is the Tendulkar of this era. You take him out, mostly air left.

 

[RexRex]

The man deserves a break.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India are missing Mohammed Shami in this series. He could have complimented Bumrah

 

[RexRex]

Seems like Shami doesn't want to come to Australia and wants to prepare for the IPL instead

He missed IPL last year and doesn't want to miss out this year.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India has won with lesser bowlers. I think it is the attitude of captain. As much as i hate his overstay he was a fast bowlers captain. Backed 4 fast bowlers all the time even at the risk of losing one batsman. Rohit is following the footsteps of MSD. "cushion for batting". Extra batsman.

 

[ExpressPacer]

How is Siraj, Akashdeep, Ashwin, Jadeja are worse than Pakistani bowlers? We are talking about test cricket here

Akashdeep is far worse. Ashwin and Jadega are way past their best when even at their best they were home track bullies.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Seems like Shami doesn't want to come to Australia and wants to prepare for the IPL instead

He missed IPL last year and doesn't want to miss out this year.

Aren't the Indian players on multi year contracts in IPL?

 

[Buffet]

Yah, he is at Marshall level and others are doing nothing.

 

[RexRex]

Aren't the Indian players on multi year contracts in IPL?

I've no idea, IPL isn't something that interests me too much.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Far ahead

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This thread was made after the World T20 and India has looked just as dominant without Bumrah.

Success does not solely depend on Bumrah. At least not in T20/white ball cricket.

 

[krikit]

This thread was made after the World T20 and India has looked just as dominant without Bumrah.

Success does not solely depend on Bumrah. At least not in T20/white ball cricket.

Bilaterals are meaningless

 

[Devadwal]

We won a champion trophy without Bumrah .so no

 

[Bhaijaan]

Winning an ICC tournament with Bumrah is kind of crazy. Incredible depth in this team

It’s like Aussies winning in 2003 without Shane Warne

 

[sugumarrising]

This shows the depth in Indian cricket, having watched shamble Indian teams in the 90s to this growth is heart warming.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Jasprit Bumrah has etched his name in cricketing history by becoming the leading Asian wicket-taker in SENA countries—South Africa, England, New Zealand, and Australia—with a remarkable 150 Test wickets in just 60 innings.

He tops a prestigious list featuring legendary bowlers such as Pakistan’s Wasim Akram (146 wickets in 55 innings), India’s Anil Kumble (141 in 67), Ishant Sharma (130 in 71), and Sri Lanka’s Muttiah Muralidaran (125 in 36). This elite group showcases the rare dominance of Asian pacers and spinners in overseas conditions traditionally challenging for subcontinent bowlers.

 

[nish_mate]

Pakistani (west or east) fans about Indian cricket....

Era- India will be minnows again once paaji retires, Kapil the one man army
Era- Indian batting will suck and be rubbish post SRT, team will be at BD level,Inzi greater than Tendya due to WC trophy. Tendulkar one man band
Kumble Era- India not going to find a fast bowler once Kumble retires. No kumble no India win
Era-Not going to find another Kohli who can put the mongrel inside the Indians. India will be a minnow w/o him
Era- Dodgy elbow, get him tested in a Lahore or Dhaka biomechanics lab, India will stop winning without him

Plus the overall PP theme, gotta eat beef to produce phaast bowlers, veggies cant be champ phaast bowlers- conveniently ignoring East Pakistani toygers who are built like Janes and bowl likes donkeys, beef or no beef....

 

[Buffet]

Indian pacers bowled very well to win a test in Eng on a flat track in absence of Bumrah.

 

[Devadwal]

First fortress Gabba BREACHED , now fortress Edgbaston breached without Bumrah . Don't forget we won the champion trophy without Bumrah too . So Indian cricket team busted another myth.

India cricket team not depends on any individual players like some others team. We can win at anywhere in the World with any player's.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He has been carrying Indian team for sometime now

Bro. So he was carrying the team in 2024 but now he's not good enough ? How opinions change in just a year

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Bro. So he was carrying the team in 2024 but now he's not good enough ? How opinions change in just a year

He is just like Sachin's Ferrari

 

[Ab Fan]

He needs to take a gap from Test cricket and play white ball cricket. Maybe return back a year later when India tours New Zealand and Sri Lanka.

 

[Devadwal]

To be very honest, India's success does rely on Bumrah. Bumrah has been the key to their bowling line-up. Other bowlers feel comfortable around him because they know, Bumrah is a game-changer and can do wonders anytime like he did in games against Pakistan and South Africa.

Once Bumrah is out, Not sure India has any game-changer like Bumrah is.

Aww Once upon a time this was my friend view

 

[Devadwal]

He has been carrying Indian team for sometime now

Here is another great prediction

 

[Devadwal]

Bumrah is one of the main reasons for India's success.

No shame in recognizing it. All the other players do contribute but he is their talisman.

As a spectator I haven't seen a bowler so likely to get a wicket. No wonder the batsmen don't have the ability to play him.

Awww cute. How people change their opinion in a year

 

[Devadwal]

First fortress Gabba BREACHED , now fortress Edgbaston breached without Bumrah . Don't forget we won the champion trophy without Bumrah too . So Indian cricket team busted another myth.

India cricket team not depends on any individual players like some others team. We can win at anywhere in the World with any player's.

India cricket team not depends on any individual players like some others team. We can win at anywhere in the World with any player's.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Here is another great prediction

He and Pandya saved you from humiliation (along with main protagonist saffers) in 2024 not Kohli. In Australia, he saved you from 5-0 humiliation. i.e (4-1) still came close if not for rain.

But this is also truth that he is a person chasing his legacy not team's goals. Siraj is quite opposite

 

[Devadwal]

He and Pandya saved you from humiliation (along with main protagonist saffers) in 2024 not Kohli. In Australia, he saved you from 5-0 humiliation. i.e (4-1) still came close if not for rain.

But this is also truth that he is a person chasing his legacy not team's goals. Siraj is quite opposite

India could not have scored 170 runs without Kohli but most likely 140.

As i said indian cricket team doesn't team on single player

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India cricket team not depends on any individual players like some others team. We can win at anywhere in the World with any player's.

Yes, team doesn't matter when you have BCCI. Unfortunately in SENA tests they don't have much control

 

[Devadwal]

Yes, team doesn't matter when you have BCCI. Unfortunately in SENA tests they don't have much control

Yes that's why we won back to back test series in Australia and drawn last test series in England and South Africa.

While some team can't even draw a test in Australia from more than 30 years , in South Africa zero win since 2013

Hahahahah Hahahha

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Yes that's why we won back to back test series in Australia and drawn last test series in England and South Africa.

While some team can't even draw a test in Australia from more than 30 years , in South Africa zero win since 2013

Hahahahah Hahahha

O yes India is way better than us in SENA

SENA stats don’t lie: Pakistan edge India in England & NZ

India & Pakistan in England Pakistan's last few test series in England 0-1 in 1987 (Pakistan Win) 1-2 in 1992 (Pakistan Win) 0-2 in 1996 (Pakistan Win) 1-1 in 2001 (Draw) 4-0 in 2006 (Pakistan Defeat) 3-1 in 2010 (Pakistan Defeat) 2-2 in 2016 (Draw) 1-1 in 2018 (Draw) 1-0 in 2020 (Pakistan...

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[Devadwal]

O yes India is way better than us in SENA

SENA stats don’t lie: Pakistan edge India in England & NZ

India & Pakistan in England Pakistan's last few test series in England 0-1 in 1987 (Pakistan Win) 1-2 in 1992 (Pakistan Win) 0-2 in 1996 (Pakistan Win) 1-1 in 2001 (Draw) 4-0 in 2006 (Pakistan Defeat) 3-1 in 2010 (Pakistan Defeat) 2-2 in 2016 (Draw) 1-1 in 2018 (Draw) 1-0 in 2020 (Pakistan...

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Australia, South Africa is from Mars

Indian test win in Sena Nations ( Last eight months) -2 ( Likely 3 in few days)

Pakistani test win in Sena Nations since 2018 - One

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Australia, South Africa is from Mars

Indian test win in Sena Nations ( Last eight months) -2 ( Likely 3 in few days)

Pakistani test win in Sena Nations since 2018 - One

O yes you have won more matches and does that mean more series triumph too in SENA??? Plz let me know pal

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Awww cute. How people change their opinion in a year

He is a wonderful bowler but there are questions mark on his longevity and how effective he is when having to bowl long spells on unhelpful pitches.

Anyway if you are saying my opinion changed (which it didn't) perhaps you may also find it cute how a 90mph speedster turned into 79mph trundler in a year

 

[jnaveen1980]

He picked up injury in December. Then played IPL. I don't think he has fully recovered. He is semi fit. In the first three tests he was breathing fire in Australia. THen speed slightly dipped. Picked up injury in 5th test. He has not fully recovered yet.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Indian team has done better in tests Bumrah didn't play in this series.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Indian team has done better in tests Bumrah didn't play in this series.

INdia did well in first test, Also did well at LOrds. Indian tailenders collapsed in both tests for nothing. India just had to chase 192. You can't pin it on bumrah. Probably for his batting though. He was doing well. Suddenly played a stupid shot.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

INdia did well in first test, Also did well at LOrds. Indian tailenders collapsed in both tests for nothing. India just had to chase 192. You can't pin it on bumrah. Probably for his batting though. He was doing well. Suddenly played a stupid shot.

Sometimes the cushion effect of having a world class player may lead to dependency and laziness in other bowlers.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Sometimes the cushion effect of having a world class player may lead to dependency and laziness in other bowlers.

Not his fault. You have to be at your very best every time. If he doesn't click, if he is out of rhythm you have to step up. That is how INdia was running riot when Ishant, Bumrah, Shami, Umesh bowled together. THey didn't rely on one bowler.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Bumrah's dependency is a hoax... They actually don't need him... Their bowlers did better job when he is not around...

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bumrah's dependency is a hoax... They actually don't need him... Their bowlers did better job when he is not around...

He was the reason why India won at Perth. Took 8 for 72. Rohit came in and screwed up the remaining series.When he captained he managed hsi workload brilliantly.

 

[Hellion]

Bumrah's dependency is a hoax... They actually don't need him... Their bowlers did better job when he is not around...

Complete hoax. It's only useful to point out this so called dependency to belittle other Indian players like this thread 's posts attempt to do.