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Does Pakistan T20I cricket enter a new era with Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan left out?

Does Pakistan T20I cricket enter a new era with Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan left out?


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Exactly, so why are we supposed to do bhangra when these intent merchants are not an improvement?

You can talk when they actually prove that they can win against the big teams unlike the previous team, because results matter. Intent and playing style does not.

This reminds of me Bazball fans pretending that Stokes and McCullum have transformed English cricket when they produced the exact same results in Ashes and in India that the so-called terrible England Test team did under Root.

Win first, then talk. In fact, you won’t even need to talk because the results will do the talking.

As I said, the 15 T20Is in the next 12 months will reveal everything. May Australia, South Africa, England and Afghanistan show these intent merchants their station and save us all from noise pollution, InshAllah.
And you can talk when they have been given their fair share of time to implement their new strategy too.

The whole RizBar accumulator strategy was formed in early 2021, and was given 3 T20i world cups to see how beneficial it is to Pakistan cricket.

The new set up and strategy has not even had one major tournament. It’s been around for 2 inconsequential series where they are still building on it. It’s a work in progress. They don’t just deserve 1 tournament with this strategy, they deserve at least 3. Be patient and stop throwing hissy fits like Tanvir Ahmed!
 
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This is only going to backfire for you I’m afraid.

Soon there will be calls for Pakistan to replace Rizwan with Harris in ODI. Harris can be adjusted to number 6 or 7, and Pakistan can bring in a proper middle order batter for number 4

And Babar also better watch his back. Nawaz is the upcoming superstar who Pakistan fans would love to see in the middle dealing with spin and putting the pressure back on the opposition, unlike Babar who invites the pressure by letting them settle down.
 
India never misses when it comes to saving the world for Pakistan cricket noise pollution.

In 2018, Sarfaraz stated that India is afraid of Pakistan before the Asia Cup. Hassan Ali went to the border and taunted the Indian public with his dumb celebration. The fans were also very cocky and still high on the euphoria of the fluke CT, but India didn’t say a word and humiliated Pakistan without prime Kohli and Sarfaraz and his team never recovered from that.

In 2023 Asia Cup, Pakistan was in the clouds again because of the so-called prowess of its pace bowling, but Kohli and KL Rahul ripped them apart and Pakistan never recovered from that either.

In 2025 Asia Cup, history might repeat itself again, with Pakistan making a lot of noise over its newfound “intent” in T20I cricket and how they are going to take on Indian bowlers without fear, and I have full faith in India that India will agree to participate in the tournament, take revenge for Rafael and save us all from noise pollution.
 
India never misses when it comes to saving the world for Pakistan cricket noise pollution.

In 2018, Sarfaraz stated that India is afraid of Pakistan before the Asia Cup. Hassan Ali went to the border and taunted the Indian public with his dumb celebration. The fans were also very cocky and still high on the euphoria of the fluke CT, but India didn’t say a word and humiliated Pakistan without prime Kohli and Sarfaraz and his team never recovered from that.

In 2023 Asia Cup, Pakistan was in the clouds again because of the so-called prowess of its pace bowling, but Kohli and KL Rahul ripped them apart and Pakistan never recovered from that either.

In 2025 Asia Cup, history might repeat itself again, with Pakistan making a lot of noise over its newfound “intent” in T20I cricket and how they are going to take on Indian bowlers without fear, and I have full faith in India that India will agree to participate in the tournament, take revenge for Rafael and save us all from noise pollution.
Exactly

I would like to thank India for exposing Rizwan during his 75 ball 40. Alhamdolillah, the mood has changed massively amongst the Pakistan public and they clearly see what these frauds truly were.
 
This is only going to backfire for you I’m afraid.

Soon there will be calls for Pakistan to replace Rizwan with Harris in ODI. Harris can be adjusted to number 6 or 7, and Pakistan can bring in a proper middle order batter for number 4

And Babar also better watch his back. Nawaz is the upcoming superstar who Pakistan fans would love to see in the middle dealing with spin and putting the pressure back on the opposition, unlike Babar who invites the pressure by letting them settle down.
I don’t have a problem with either of the two. I like Hassan Nawaz in the middle-order. He looks ugly as an opener but his six hitting prowess vs spin bowling is the best in Pakistan right now.

Similarly, Haris can hit sixes too. I have a problem with his attitude but if he is prepared to be humble and focus on his game rather than running his mouth, he is more than welcome to be in the team. He is also an excellent fielder, which is a bonus.

I have already nominated my T20I few days ago, and I can definitely accommodate both in the ODI team along with Babar and Rizwan because there is a gaping hole in the middle-order.

Iftikhar is gone, Saud is not needed and players like KG, Tayyab and Khushdil don’t cut the mustard for me.

Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan +
Agha
M. Haris
H. Nawaz
Shaheen (c)
M. Wasim
H. Ali /Naseem/Rauf
Abrar

I really like the look of this team in Asian conditions. I think you can get 10 overs out of Agha and Saim on Asian pitches, but for overseas, one of M. Haris or M. Nawaz will have to be dropped for an additional bowler.
 
India never misses when it comes to saving the world for Pakistan cricket noise pollution.

In 2018, Sarfaraz stated that India is afraid of Pakistan before the Asia Cup. Hassan Ali went to the border and taunted the Indian public with his dumb celebration. The fans were also very cocky and still high on the euphoria of the fluke CT, but India didn’t say a word and humiliated Pakistan without prime Kohli and Sarfaraz and his team never recovered from that.

In 2023 Asia Cup, Pakistan was in the clouds again because of the so-called prowess of its pace bowling, but Kohli and KL Rahul ripped them apart and Pakistan never recovered from that either.

In 2025 Asia Cup, history might repeat itself again, with Pakistan making a lot of noise over its newfound “intent” in T20I cricket and how they are going to take on Indian bowlers without fear, and I have full faith in India that India will agree to participate in the tournament, take revenge for Rafael and save us all from noise pollution.
Supporting India again 🫠
 
Supporting India again 🫠
I have boycott Pakistan cricket team until they make fair and transparent selections and don’t act on agendas and personal grudges.There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team.

I will support any team that plays against Pakistan in these circumstances.
 
I have boycott Pakistan cricket team until they make fair and transparent selections and don’t act on agendas and personal grudges.There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team.

I will support any team that plays against Pakistan in these circumstances.
So you've boycotted Pakistan for removing babar and rizwan due to poor form?

Remind me how many t20's Pakistan won under rizzu's captaincy?
 
There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team
Yes there is. The one in which young guns get a go to represent the country and break records for them in a space of 5 games. 2 of Pakistan's fastest T20 centurions have emerged in the first and second series after Babar and Rizwan were booted out.
 
Yes there is. The one in which young guns get a go to represent the country and break records for them in a space of 5 games. 2 of Pakistan's fastest T20 centurions have emerged in the first and second series after Babar and Rizwan were booted out.
He says their is no world in which babar, rizwan and shaheen dont make the team.

So what world are we living in now? Are we non canon?
 
I don’t have a problem with either of the two. I like Hassan Nawaz in the middle-order. He looks ugly as an opener but his six hitting prowess vs spin bowling is the best in Pakistan right now.

Similarly, Haris can hit sixes too. I have a problem with his attitude but if he is prepared to be humble and focus on his game rather than running his mouth, he is more than welcome to be in the team. He is also an excellent fielder, which is a bonus.

I have already nominated my T20I few days ago, and I can definitely accommodate both in the ODI team along with Babar and Rizwan because there is a gaping hole in the middle-order.

Iftikhar is gone, Saud is not needed and players like KG, Tayyab and Khushdil don’t cut the mustard for me.

Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan +
Agha
M. Haris
H. Nawaz
Shaheen (c)
M. Wasim
H. Ali /Naseem/Rauf
Abrar

I really like the look of this team in Asian conditions. I think you can get 10 overs out of Agha and Saim on Asian pitches, but for overseas, one of M. Haris or M. Nawaz will have to be dropped for an additional bowler.
I didn’t agree with the T20 team posted the other day, but this can be a solid team. I would move Hasan a little up but overall, player to player this is a good team.
 
We live in a world where we are supposed to believe that Asif Ali, Sharjeel, Usman Khan, M. Haris are better T20 batsmen than Babar, Rizwan, Kohli, Williamson. My my my my. :klopp
There are only a handful of sinners on this forum to be honest who believe this. Because they individually post an average of 200+ posts every day it appears as if they represent the majority. Farigh log hain.
 
There are only a handful of sinners on this forum to be honest who believe this. Because they individually post an average of 200+ posts every day it appears as if they represent the majority. Farigh log hain.
Yes, only righteous people can claim there are 33 players in KPK who will bang Pakistan…. And people shouldn’t share stats to emphasise a point.
 
RCB won IPL with a so-called tuk tuk batsman like Kohli who according 0 IQ clowns is not fit to play T20 cricket in 2025. In comparison, SRH, the so-called intent monsters whose every batsman is programmed to hit every ball for six couldn't even make the play-offs.

This shows that there is more to T20 cricket than just slogging. In fact, it is to be said that SR is highly overrated. At the end of the day, regardless of the format, the only thing that matters is runs. Runs are runs, whether they come slow or fast. They will always carry weight.

PCB should learn from IPL 2025 and realize that its current topi drama is not sustainable and will end in tears. Babar and Rizwan are the most prolific batsmen in the country and they must be in the team and surrounded by a bunch of sloggers.
 
RCB won IPL with a so-called tuk tuk batsman like Kohli who according 0 IQ clowns is not fit to play T20 cricket in 2025. In comparison, SRH, the so-called intent monsters whose every batsman is programmed to hit every ball for six couldn't even make the play-offs.

This shows that there is more to T20 cricket than just slogging. In fact, it is to be said that SR is highly overrated. At the end of the day, regardless of the format, the only thing that matters is runs. Runs are runs, whether they come slow or fast. They will always carry weight.

PCB should learn from IPL 2025 and realize that its current topi drama is not sustainable and will end in tears. Babar and Rizwan are the most prolific batsmen in the country and they must be in the team and surrounded by a bunch of sloggers.
Yes,

Kohli’s innings was as goated as Prabhsimran’s

This is the kind of approach you need to win games!
 
Yes,

Kohli’s innings was as goated as Prabhsimran’s

This is the kind of approach you need to win games!
RCB's triumph and SRH's failure shows that SR is overrated. You can live in denial if you want, the results are there for everyone to see.

Kohli played a quality innings today, as he has throughout the tournament. GOAT T20 batsman by some distance.
 
RCB's triumph and SRH's failure shows that SR is overrated. You can live in denial if you want, the results are there for everyone to see.

Kohli played a quality innings today, as he has throughout the tournament. GOAT T20 batsman by some distance.
Yes Kohli’s innings was so good that all of his team mates stood up and clapped for him when he came back to the dugout! They all knew the value of such a wonderful innings! They are pro cricketers whereas we can only sit and comment! They all knew he played the match defining innings…..








Oh wait that’s not what happened is it?
 
I don’t have a problem with either of the two. I like Hassan Nawaz in the middle-order. He looks ugly as an opener but his six hitting prowess vs spin bowling is the best in Pakistan right now.

Similarly, Haris can hit sixes too. I have a problem with his attitude but if he is prepared to be humble and focus on his game rather than running his mouth, he is more than welcome to be in the team. He is also an excellent fielder, which is a bonus.

I have already nominated my T20I few days ago, and I can definitely accommodate both in the ODI team along with Babar and Rizwan because there is a gaping hole in the middle-order.

Iftikhar is gone, Saud is not needed and players like KG, Tayyab and Khushdil don’t cut the mustard for me.

Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan +
Agha
M. Haris
H. Nawaz
Shaheen (c)
M. Wasim
H. Ali /Naseem/Rauf
Abrar

I really like the look of this team in Asian conditions. I think you can get 10 overs out of Agha and Saim on Asian pitches, but for overseas, one of M. Haris or M. Nawaz will have to be dropped for an additional bowler.
The balance of this team is out. It will get thrashed. You need another bowler. All rounder ideally.

Saim and Salman cannot be trusted to be Frontline bowlers.

Also Rizwan has no place at no. 4. Better use Hassan Nawaz at this spot.
 
This is hilarious because the same intent merchants who have “brought the team back” were the ones who got destroyed by NZ and will get destroyed by any decent side.

This new era of Pakistan cricket drama will also end in tears.

Trust the process…you should know better given that you’re an Arteta fan.

It’s time for you to move on from the Babar’s, Imam’s and Rizwan’s. Their time is up. It’s time for you to back the young, fearless lions who play for the badge, and not the personal milestones.

It’s time for you to stand on the right side, for once.
 
Trust the process…you should know better given that you’re an Arteta fan.

It’s time for you to move on from the Babar’s, Imam’s and Rizwan’s. Their time is up. It’s time for you to back the young, fearless lions who play for the badge, and not the personal milestones.

It’s time for you to stand on the right side, for once.
As I said before, I believe in transparency. There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team in all formats. Dropping them is not a transparent decision.

These fluke hacks are the flavor of the month, but there are plenty of tough T20Is matches coming up in the next 12 months and those teams will show these fluke hacks their station and put an end to the noise pollution.
 
“Babar Azam, Muhammad Rizwan, Naseem Shah:
The three players are not part of the T20 World Cup plan.
The coach gave him separate plans for red-ball (Test) and ODI cricket.
Sufyan Muqeem and Shaheen Shah Afridi included in T20 plan till World Cup
Strictness on fitness and fielding
Players who do not improve their fitness and fielding will be kept away from the national team.
The coach has given a clear message to all the players participating in the Lahore camp.”
 
As I said before, I believe in transparency. There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team in all formats. Dropping them is not a transparent decision.

These fluke hacks are the flavor of the month, but there are plenty of tough T20Is matches coming up in the next 12 months and those teams will show these fluke hacks their station and put an end to the noise pollution.
There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team in all formats.

Then what world are we living in?
 
SR is overrated, it’s nowhere near as important as scoring runs. Having said that, Gayle is the second greatest T20 batsman in history after Kohli.
 
There is no world in which Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen don’t make the team in all formats.

Then what world are we living in?
We are living in a world where decisions are made based on agendas and shortsightedness, but this drama will end soon.
 
Hesson is looking keen to bring Babar back, though. If he does that, is he crazy?
What’s crazy is keeping your one of the best batsmen ever out of the team in the prime of his career because he doesn’t hit enough sixes.

Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen should be the first 3 names on the team sheet in all formats and you build an XI around them.
 
What’s crazy is keeping your one of the best batsmen ever out of the team in the prime of his career because he doesn’t hit enough sixes.

Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen should be the first 3 names on the team sheet in all formats and you build an XI around them.
One of your best batsmen Cant pierce gaps outside pp, wastes balls in pp.
 
One of your best batsmen Cant pierce gaps outside pp, wastes balls in pp.
He is the second highest run scorer in T20I history. He is only 7 runs shy of Rohit having played 30 less innings.

He has more runs than a lot of so-called legends of T20I cricket having played less innings.

As a T20I opener, his SR is almost equal to Fakhar and Saim and scores 2x more runs and those two are supposedly the most explosive batsmen in Pakistan.

Same applies to Sharjeel Khan as well, who was supposedly the most explosive batsman in Pakistan before that, but then his deluded 0 IQ fans will make the “different era” excuse, although scoring rates in T20Is haven’t seen much of a change in the last few years or.

A good total today was also a good total 10 years ago and a bad total today was also a bad total 10 years ago.

Asif Ali, the so-called best six hitter in Pakistan who hits 100 sixes every net session has the same SR as Babar.

I can go all day to expose Babar’s critics but I have other things to take care of as well. Babar is a T20 legend and one of the greatest to play the format. He has done extremely well for someone who apparently cannot find gaps and wastes deliveries.
 
Stop hating Babar for no reason. Live in the universe where Babar, Rizwan and Shaheen make every Pakistan team…
 
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Just because Babar and Rizwan were snubbed 3 times in the Hundred doesn’t mean they are not better than Chris Gayle, Warner, Travis Head and Sharjeel Khan.

Come on guys. Live in this universe. Find gaps, not sizes!
 
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Just because Babar and Rizwan were snubbed 3 times in the Hundred doesn’t mean they are not better than Chris Gayle, Warner, Travis Head and Sharjeel Khan.

Come on guys. Live in this universe. Find gaps, not sizes!
Who invited a joke of a batsman like Sharjeel?

Babar and Rizwan are 10x the batsman he is in all formats and that was obvious when they played together in PSL for 3 editions and Sharjeel was nowhere near them.

Sharjeel is one of the worst batsmen to play for Pakistan. Babar and Rizwan’s partnership vs India alone is bigger than Sharjeel’s entire career.

As far as The Hundred is concerned, it’s not the gold standard in franchise cricket. It is a complete flop show even though the idea is great. Unfortunately, the execution has been incredibly weak because the ECB has no idea what to do with it.

In theory, if The Hundred is run by competent people, it can potentially kill T20 cricket just like the 50 over ODIs killed the 60 over ODIs. The Hundred has the same entertainment and excitement factor of T20s but with added stipulations that make it even better.

It is a shame that the format has failed to kick on because it is in the wrong hands.
 
Hesson is looking keen to bring Babar back, though. If he does that, is he crazy?
I believe he's given a clear direction and gameplan to them. If they evolve their game and perform then sure they'll comeback in T20I format.

But he mentioned very clearly in the recent PCB Podcast that then those players coming back have to be bat even better than the ones playing currently.
 
I believe he's given a clear direction and gameplan to them. If they evolve their game and perform then sure they'll comeback in T20I format.

But he mentioned very clearly in the recent PCB Podcast that then those players coming back have to be bat even better than the ones playing currently.
Bakhri is saying Babar and Rizwan have to prove themselves in the Shaheen’s and franchise tournaments apparently

They are not coming back so easily
 
Sharam karo yaar, if Babar does it he’s a villain but if Head does it he is unlucky??
 

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But but but ODI and T20 are just two sides of the same coin??

Isn’t it @gazza619 ?
Travis Head is > Babar in all formats. Their leagues apart.

While I can understand some criticism towards Head due to inconsistency and him having a habit of getting more ducks then Afridi as well as Indian hate towards him,

I dont think anyone besides troll accounts can put Babar > Head in any format.

Gilchrist > Warner > Head >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Babar.

Babar is so far off the spectrum its not even funny. Babar is at best a Labu level batsmen.

Infact their both ironically similar since both of them are unsuited to t20 and both of them are severely out of form atm.

However Labu is still massively > Babar in test cricket and has played more clutch innings in odi.
 
So you've boycotted Pakistan for removing babar and rizwan due to poor form?

Remind me how many t20's Pakistan won under rizzu's captaincy?
The last t20I Babar played was 31 off 19 in SA. I don't see how that inning is bad from any logic. A player of Babar's caliber must be in your starting XI in all 3 formats. Even in his poor form, he is better than 98% of the players. I can't say the same for Rizwan in T20is. Unfortunatley, we can only have 1 of Babar and Rizwan in T20is and that has to be Babar because he is a better player in any condition. I will give my T20, ODIs and tests XI too as of now.

T20I:

Saim
Haris (WK)
Babar
H. Nawaz
Agha
Shadab
Sadaqat/Niazi
Shaheen (C)
Wasim Jnr
H Ali
Abrar
Reserves : (Fakhar, Shafique, Naseem/Ali Raza, Rauf)

ODIs

Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan (C)(WK)
Agha
H. Nawaz
Maaz Sadaqat
Shaheen
Wasim Jnr
Naseem
Abrar

Reserves : (Shafique, Imam, Rauf, Shadab)

Test (SENA)

Saim
Imam
Azan Awais/Hurraira
Babar
Shakeel
Agha (C)
Rizwan (WK
Nomi
Sajid
Shaheen
Naseem


Test (away)

Saim
Imam
Shan
Babar
Shakeel
Agha (C)
Rizwan (WK)
Shaheen
Naseem
Abbas
Abrar

Thoughts? @Mamoon @Major @RizwanT20Champ
 
In present form Babar shouldn’t be included in the T20 team.
In a couple of months period it will become very clear that Harris doesn’t belong to this level. He would be discarded. Pakistan needs to find his replacement.
Also, Pakistan has to groom Mohammad Naeem to open with Saim.
 
The last t20I Babar played was 31 off 19 in SA. I don't see how that inning is bad from any logic. A player of Babar's caliber must be in your starting XI in all 3 formats. Even in his poor form, he is better than 98% of the players. I can't say the same for Rizwan in T20is. Unfortunatley, we can only have 1 of Babar and Rizwan in T20is and that has to be Babar because he is a better player in any condition. I will give my T20, ODIs and tests XI too as of now.

T20I:

Saim
Haris (WK)
Babar
H. Nawaz
Agha
Shadab
Sadaqat/Niazi
Shaheen (C)
Wasim Jnr
H Ali
Abrar
Reserves : (Fakhar, Shafique, Naseem/Ali Raza, Rauf)

ODIs

Saim
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan (C)(WK)
Agha
H. Nawaz
Maaz Sadaqat
Shaheen
Wasim Jnr
Naseem
Abrar

Reserves : (Shafique, Imam, Rauf, Shadab)

Test (SENA)

Saim
Imam
Azan Awais/Hurraira
Babar
Shakeel
Agha (C)
Rizwan (WK
Nomi
Sajid
Shaheen
Naseem


Test (away)

Saim
Imam
Shan
Babar
Shakeel
Agha (C)
Rizwan (WK)
Shaheen
Naseem
Abbas
Abrar

Thoughts? @Mamoon @Major @RizwanT20Champ
That's your opinion and im willing to respect it but not willing to agree with it.
 
In present form Babar shouldn’t be included in the T20 team.
In a couple of months period it will become very clear that Harris doesn’t belong to this level. He would be discarded. Pakistan needs to find his replacement.
Also, Pakistan has to groom Mohammad Naeem to open with Saim.
We don't have any other WK other than Rizwan and Haris that can play international cricket. You can try giving gloves to the likes of Farhan but in the big tournaments, the errors would be fatal. Remember when Umar Akmal asked to keep the gloves in WC?
 
We don't have any other WK other than Rizwan and Haris that can play international cricket. You can try giving gloves to the likes of Farhan but in the big tournaments, the errors would be fatal. Remember when Umar Akmal asked to keep the gloves in WC?
Unless Harris improves his offside game, he will be found out soon and when that happens Rizwan will become a viable option. I do want Harris to succeed because I believe he has the right approach toward T20s but unfortunately he doesn’t have the game to succeed. And selecting Rizwan would be a step backwards. You’re right about Farhan. Neither he’s a good nor he has the fitness to keep for 20 overs and then bat.
 
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