Donald Trump says "will take over Gaza" and Palestinians should leave

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Ignorance has no limitations i guess.

76 years of brutal occupation
Constant killing of women and children
Snipers deliberately targeting children
Foreign medics have reported this.
ICJ have convicted Netanyahus and his cronies as Criminals. Yet you ignore all this.

Out of respect for Palestinians (both dead and alive), I don't discuss Palestine issue with the Indians.

It is quite pointless to engage with them on this topic. They tend to be quite ignorant. I remember one Indian poster once wrote Israelis were grabbing lands legally. I was shocked to see such ignorance.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

You forgot the punchline:

"Living in the West and paying for all this. Priceless."

The word " Intention" has deep meanings.

Me living in the west abiding by the law in paying taxes doesn't mean to say I agree with the policies they implement.

By not voting, my intentions are quite clear.

 

[HalBass9]

Pakistanis should let some Palestinians settle in Pakistan. After all it is the stronghold for the ummah. Look at the bright side, since they are Arabs and probably won’t watch cricket, some of you from Lahore, “Punjab” and from Karachi with roots to some random UP-Bihar village can gloat by pointing those fair skin Arabs to us and gloat about how superior your “new race” is what they do for a living shouldn’t matter; it’s not like the top of the cream ( not Hamas but scientists, doctors etc) won’t move to Pakistan anyways.

This should resolve the conflict.

Imagine being so salty that your fellow ancestors made a religious U turn that you’ve turned it into a full time hobby. Like, my guy, they made that decision centuries ago, meanwhile, you’re here in 2025, still acting like you can file a customer service complaint to history. At this rate, even your ancestors are up there, sipping celestial tea, watching you struggle, and saying, Bro, let it go.

 

[Varun]

The word " Intention" has deep meanings.

Me living in the west abiding by the law in paying taxes doesn't mean to say I agree with the policies they implement.

By not voting, my intentions are quite clear.

So you might as well live in Israel.

 

[Varun]

Pakistanis should let some Palestinians settle in Pakistan. After all it is the stronghold for the ummah. Look at the bright side, since they are Arabs and probably won’t watch cricket, some of you from Lahore, “Punjab” and from Karachi with roots to some random UP-Bihar village can gloat by pointing those fair skin Arabs to us and gloat about how superior your “new race” is what they do for a living shouldn’t matter; it’s not like the top of the cream ( not Hamas but scientists, doctors etc) won’t move to Pakistan anyways.

This should resolve the conflict.

Just checked a detail; in spite of all the war and terror:

Palestine per capita income: 7,060 PPP dollars
Pakistan per capita income: 6,110 PPP dollars

How did that happen?

 

[Local.Dada]

Just checked a detail; in spite of all the war and terror:

Palestine per capita income: 7,060 PPP dollars
Pakistan per capita income: 6,110 PPP dollars

How did that happen?

I think Isreal provides most employment and work there.

Maybe Pak should allow Adani bhai to generate some industry in Pak. Sadak se utha ke star bana dega. Will easily double their per capita income easily

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So you might as well live in Israel.

I think we might need to bump one of the multiculturalism threads.

 

[HalBass9]

So you might as well live in Israel.

Most would love to but they only accept Zionist. One of their requirement is mandatory military service, hence taking part in the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

 

[Varun]

Most would love to but they only accept Zionist. One of their requirement is mandatory military service, hence taking part in the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Which is why you're doing the next best thing I suppose.

 

[HalBass9]

I think Isreal provides most employment and work there.

Maybe Pak should allow Adani bhai to generate some industry in Pak. Sadak se utha ke star bana dega. Will easily double their per capita income easily

If Adani saw some big bucks rolling in, he'd be investing in Pakistan without a second thought, your beliefs wouldn't even be a footnote. The real game master here, Modi. He needs Y'all to buy into his scripted narrative to keep his power play alive. Without you and the loyal audience, Modi wouldn't be running the country, he'd be back at the chai stall, perfecting his signature equation. "Sugar + Tea + Milk + A pinch of anti Muslim sentiment = The ultimate recipe for manufactured hate".

Y'all gave him the grand stage to unveil an equation even greater than E=MC2, right from the White House. 'MEGA'.

 

[HalBass9]

Which is why you're doing the next best thing I suppose.

Seems like it’s worked, doesn't it? Globally, the narrative that Palestinians are barbaric is losing steam. The world, the Global South (minus India), and the West are starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project.

You seem a bit upset about that. Why?

 

[Varun]

Seems like it’s worked, doesn't it? Globally, the narrative that Palestinians are barbaric is losing steam. The world, the Global South (minus India), and the West are starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project.

Yeah, totally. This is the amount of money the US alone has funneled to Israel, besides other deals over and under the table:

2020: $3.3 billion
2021: $3.3 billion
2022: $3.3 billion
2023: $17.9 billion
2024: $95.3 billion (includes Taiwan and Ukraine as well, Israel got a portion of it but I'm sure a large figure)

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yeah, totally. This is the amount of money the US alone has funneled to Israel, besides other deals over and under the table:

2020: $3.3 billion
2021: $3.3 billion
2022: $3.3 billion
2023: $17.9 billion
2024: $95.3 billion (includes Taiwan and Ukraine as well, Israel got a portion of it but I'm sure a large figure)

I think the days of the US funnelling money into world projects is over. If they put money in, they'll want some return on it. They were getting nothing from backing israel, Trump probably sees Gaza as a real estate deal on a large scale. But that will probably see the US take control of it rather than israel.

 

[Varun]

I think the days of the US funnelling money into world projects is over. If they put money in, they'll want some return on it. They were getting nothing from backing israel, Trump probably sees Gaza as a real estate deal on a large scale. But that will probably see the US take control of it rather than israel.

Then let that happen first. It didn't happen during Trump's first Presidency for sure. Quite the opposite. #Jerusalem

 

[HalBass9]

Yeah, totally. This is the amount of money the US alone has funneled to Israel, besides other deals over and under the table:

2020: $3.3 billion
2021: $3.3 billion
2022: $3.3 billion
2023: $17.9 billion
2024: $95.3 billion (includes Taiwan and Ukraine as well, Israel got a portion of it but I'm sure a large figure)

And?

It is a colonial project, the last one, of course it has always been the US.

What is your point? that some of our tax money goes into that project?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Then let that happen first. It didn't happen during Trump's first Presidency for sure. Quite the opposite. #Jerusalem

Trump was labelled a Russian asset during his first term, now he's holding one to ones with Putin. The world has moved on, he's making up for lost time.

 

[Varun]

And?

It is a colonial project, the last one, of course it has always been the US.

What is your point? that some of our tax money goes into that project?

And "the West are not starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project."

 

[HalBass9]

And "the West are not starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project."

You must be confusing Blinken with the rest of the ordinary citizens.

If it was not true then they didn't have to censor social media.

 

[FearlessRoar]

What are your thoughts on it?

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[JaDed]

Posted an AI video of Gaza with him and Elon and then him and Netanyahu chilling on beach.

Easily the most despicable president of Western world.

 

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I'm waiting for at least a modicum of acknowledgement from British Pakistanis that they were wrong in eagerly rooting for Trump but I only hear crickets from many of the British Pakistanis now that Trump has come back to bite the hands of muslims worldwide (the very same ones who were applauding and cheering him).

No American muslim would cheer for him, I mentioned it then in the Trump thread and questioned other muslims. But the same British Pakistanis said I was paranoid and was being fed propaganda (when ironically it is them pushing narratives from the media without ever setting foot in America and being out of touch with ground realities).

The hatred these British Pakistanis had blinded them from the kinship they should have had with their fellow muslims. It means nothing when you start bashing the Indians and Hindus but means a LOT when you can suppress your hatred to favor the kinship for muslims, which you lot miserably failed. I'm still fuming at the stupidity that SOME of the British Pakistanis showcased in gleefully cheering for Trump. None of the American muslims (or worldwide for that matter) can see you as true muslims once they see what you did.

I'm referencing this thread and I even included so many lins for Trump being anti-muslim even before all this started (post #219 in this thread) -- https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...24-can-he-succeed.307276/page-3#post-11879908 but the "usual suspects" in this thread let their hatred for liberals overpower their kinship for fellow muslims. I bet they are all hiding now too ashamed to speak up.

 

[Rajdeep]

What are your thoughts on it?

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@The Bald Eagle @DeadlyVenom if this happens i.e Trump makes the land of Gaza prosperous as a resort as shown in this video, will you guys support him?

Just asking because I was told yesterday that we must learn to alienate good and bad. So even though Islamic invaders were barbaric, we must appreciate their good sides i.e all the development and monument they have build.

Same to same in this case also na? We must alienate the bad side of genocide of innocent Palestanians and praise the good side of development work USA intending to do there ?

 

[Rajdeep]

No response as ususal.

@uppercut @Hitman @JaDed is my above question correct or not?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@The Bald Eagle @DeadlyVenom if this happens i.e Trump makes the land of Gaza prosperous as a resort as shown in this video, will you guys support him?

Just asking because I was told yesterday that we must learn to alienate good and bad. So even though Islamic invaders were barbaric, we must appreciate their good sides i.e all the development and monument they have build.

Same to same in this case also na? We must alienate the bad side of genocide of innocent Palestanians and praise the good side of development work USA intending to do there ?

Dumb question man....no logic at all...Even Trump isn't serious here and just one of his gaffe

 

[Rajdeep]

Dumb question man....no logic at all...Even Trump isn't serious here and just one of his gaffe

Question is not dumb at all. It is a totally valid comparison. Its just that you will not be able to give an honest answer.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Question is not dumb at all. It is a totally valid comparison. Its just that you will not be able to give an honest answer.

Ok fine at one side Trump keeps on pressing "Two-state solutions" and on the other side want to make Gaza a resort by evicting all Gazans to middle eastern countries....don't you see his obvious gaffe or confusion here???

 

[Rajdeep]

Ok fine at one side Trump keeps on pressing "Two-state solutions" and on the other side want to make Gaza a resort by evicting all Gazans to middle eastern countries....don't you see his obvious gaffe or confusion here???

What Trump is doing is not the point here. No need being ignorant deliberately. You very well understand what I am trying to imply.

Forget Trump, imagine some western leader tomorrow try to develop the Gaza Strip and build Casinos, Discotheques, Bars, tall buildings and many other un Islamic things going against the local residents. Will you be happy?

Thats exactly what Islamic invaders did. However we have told ignore their bad evil things but just praise the good monuments and work they have done. So will you similarly applaud the wester leader too for modernizing Gaza Strip?

I know even in next 100 years you will never gather the courage to answer this but its a valid question. Kisko bewkoof bana rahe ho dost?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What Trump is doing is not the point here. No need being ignorant deliberately. You very well understand what I am trying to imply.

Forget Trump, imagine some western leader tomorrow try to develop the Gaza Strip and build Casinos, Discotheques, Bars, tall buildings and many other un Islamic things going against the local residents. Will you be happy?

Thats exactly what Islamic invaders did. However we have told ignore their bad evil things but just praise the good monuments and work they have done. So will you similarly applaud the wester leader too for modernizing Gaza Strip?

I know even in next 100 years you will never gather the courage to answer this but its a valid question. Kisko bewkoof bana rahe ho dost?

Lol...I can knock you out in a single sentence and you have your whole life to answer my question.

Did Muslim Rulers evicted all Hindus to Andaman islands or cape of good hope? Answer my friend answer.

 

[Rajdeep]

Lol...I can knock you out in a single sentence and you have your whole life to answer my question.

Did Muslim Rulers evicted all Hindus to Andaman islands or cape of good hope? Answer my friend answer.

No they just killed and converted thousands of people which is more cruel than eviction. That too in an era when there were no UN, NGOs or mass protests against injustice.

As I said, you will NEVER be able to answer with a straight face. You know why? Its due to your religious beliefs. You have been taught from childhood that anything muslim must be defended.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No they just killed and converted thousands of people which is more cruel than eviction. That too in an era when there were no UN, NGOs or mass protests against injustice.

As I said, you will NEVER be able to answer with a straight face. You know why? Its due to your religious beliefs. You have been taught from childhood that anything muslim must be defended.

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No they just killed and converted thousands of people which is more cruel than eviction. That too in an era when there were no UN, NGOs or mass protests against injustice.

As I said, you will NEVER be able to answer with a straight face. You know why? Its due to your religious beliefs. You have been taught from childhood that anything muslim must be defended.

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

 

[Rajdeep]

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

Stop being silly.

Lets recap a bit. Yesterday brother @DeadlyVenom said we must differenciate between evil work done by Islamic invaders and praise the good work done by them like building monuments etc. A post you liked...so I presume you in agreement with him

So all I am asking for is, will you guys hold the same barometer for Israel? We know Israel is evil...even though not as much as say Alauddin Khilji but they evil for killing many innocent Palestanians. If tomorrow, hypothetically, Trump rebuild the Gaza Strip as shown in that AI video with tall buildings, Casinos, Discotheques, resorts etc. will you guys forget the evil work done by Israel and praise the development?

Not sure how much more clear I can make or in what Language should I ask?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

@Rajdeep lol defeating silence...I Knew it

Stop being silly.

Lets recap a bit. Yesterday brother @DeadlyVenom said we must differenciate between evil work done by Islamic invaders and praise the good work done by them like building monuments etc. A post you liked...so I presume you in agreement with him

So all I am asking for is, will you guys hold the same barometer for Israel? We know Israel is evil...even though not as much as say Alauddin Khilji but they evil for killing many innocent Palestanians. If tomorrow, hypothetically, Trump rebuild the Gaza Strip as shown in that AI video with tall buildings, Casinos, Discotheques, resorts etc. will you guys forget the evil work done by Israel and praise the development?

Not sure how much more clear I can make or in what Language should I ask?

I like that post because you ignore the fact that Muslims were not systematic tyrants and did what was common in that era...clamp down against their enemies in war of empires. And as on Trump AI work....what big achievement??? Are you mad he is suggesting to make million of Muslims hopeless at expense of some casino and theatres....are you really in your senses that I or anybody would appreciate that

And on why I liked that brother @DeadlyVenom post because some Muslim rulers saved HINDU population from massacre at hands of the Mongols....also there were no Mughal rulers who discriminated against Hindus in government jobs and infact your favorite king like Akbar even invented a religion to show harmony with locals....and unlike British the Muslim rulers in subcontinent didn't send money earned from India to their parent country like Brits ....but but Brits don't reside in India now

 

[Rajdeep]

@Rajdeep lol defeating silence...I Knew it

I like that post because you ignore the fact that Muslims were not systematic tyrants and did what was common in that era...clamp down against their enemies in war of empires. And as on Trump AI work....what big achievement??? Are you mad he is suggesting to make million of Muslims hopeless at expense of some casino and theatres....are you really in your senses that I or anybody would appreciate that

And on why I liked that brother @DeadlyVenom post because some Muslim rulers saved HINDU population from massacre at hands of the Mongols....also there were no Mughal rulers who discriminated against Hindus in government jobs and infact your favorite king like Akbar even invented a religion to show harmony with locals....and unlike British the Muslim rulers in subcontinent didn't send money earned from India to their parent country like Brits ....but but Brits don't reside in India now

I am astonished you are yet to see the hypocrisy. Jaane do...believe whatever you want. All I am asking for is dnt open victim card threads like 'Does Muslim bias exists among hindutvas' and stop calling people bigots if they support Israel/Modi etc.

 

[uppercut]

I am astonished you are yet to see the hypocrisy. Jaane do...believe whatever you want. All I am asking for is dnt open victim card threads like 'Does Muslim bias exists among hindutvas' and stop calling people bigots if they support Israel/Modi etc.

EXACTLY !!!

In that Hindutva thread I exposed ALL the usual Islamic extremist suspects. Not one of them had any basic common decency to just accept that harming cows in India is not right. Instead they did all sorts of nautanki across many many pages to shift the blame on Hindus !! ... just think about it! This is why I chase down the usual bigots and chastise them upfront in these threads that they will run away(which they eventually do) when I start dealing with them.

But to answer your question that you posted in post# 182 yes you are absolutely right on the money. I asked the same thing in a different manner as to why the same bigots go around drooling the numerous Islamic empires but cry a river when the Indian army deals with the Islamic extremists in Kashmir in a brutal manner. I will tag you if I ever get an answer.



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[DeadlyVenom]

Stop being silly.

Lets recap a bit. Yesterday brother @DeadlyVenom said we must differenciate between evil work done by Islamic invaders and praise the good work done by them like building monuments etc. A post you liked...so I presume you in agreement with him

So all I am asking for is, will you guys hold the same barometer for Israel? We know Israel is evil...even though not as much as say Alauddin Khilji but they evil for killing many innocent Palestanians. If tomorrow, hypothetically, Trump rebuild the Gaza Strip as shown in that AI video with tall buildings, Casinos, Discotheques, resorts etc. will you guys forget the evil work done by Israel and praise the development?

Not sure how much more clear I can make or in what Language should I ask?

You are entitled to dislike the Mughals or Sultanates. I can't stop you

My point in your other thread was that you say that Muslims liking them make you hate Muslims which is something I disagree with.

No Muslim takes pride in their misdeeds, just as no Hindu takes pride in misdeeds of Hindus Maratha rapers. You are proud of their resistance but not proud of their rapes, isn't it right?

Using similar example - I have no issues with someone who praise Israel as being a progressive technically sophisticated state. But if someone is proud of Netanyahu genocide then we will of course have issues.

I don't label most empires as religious based, they fight mainly for worldly benefit. So I can never hate a Hindu for misdeeds of ancient Hindu kingdoms, or a Jew for misdeeds for Israel and I urge you to remove hatred for a Muslim for misdeeds of some historic Muslim.

No Muslim will be proud of the bad part but can have pride in other parts, just as you can have pride of Hindu history while still dislike past acts like caste and sati etc.

It's simple concept brother.

 

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