Donald Trump says "will take over Gaza" and Palestinians should leave

[sweep_shot]

Ignorance has no limitations i guess.

76 years of brutal occupation
Constant killing of women and children
Snipers deliberately targeting children
Foreign medics have reported this.
ICJ have convicted Netanyahus and his cronies as Criminals. Yet you ignore all this.

Out of respect for Palestinians (both dead and alive), I don't discuss Palestine issue with the Indians.

It is quite pointless to engage with them on this topic. They tend to be quite ignorant. I remember one Indian poster once wrote Israelis were grabbing lands legally. I was shocked to see such ignorance.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

You forgot the punchline:

"Living in the West and paying for all this. Priceless."

The word " Intention" has deep meanings.

Me living in the west abiding by the law in paying taxes doesn't mean to say I agree with the policies they implement.

By not voting, my intentions are quite clear.

 

[HalBass9]

Pakistanis should let some Palestinians settle in Pakistan. After all it is the stronghold for the ummah. Look at the bright side, since they are Arabs and probably won’t watch cricket, some of you from Lahore, “Punjab” and from Karachi with roots to some random UP-Bihar village can gloat by pointing those fair skin Arabs to us and gloat about how superior your “new race” is what they do for a living shouldn’t matter; it’s not like the top of the cream ( not Hamas but scientists, doctors etc) won’t move to Pakistan anyways.

This should resolve the conflict.

Imagine being so salty that your fellow ancestors made a religious U turn that you’ve turned it into a full time hobby. Like, my guy, they made that decision centuries ago, meanwhile, you’re here in 2025, still acting like you can file a customer service complaint to history. At this rate, even your ancestors are up there, sipping celestial tea, watching you struggle, and saying, Bro, let it go.

 

[Varun]

The word " Intention" has deep meanings.

Me living in the west abiding by the law in paying taxes doesn't mean to say I agree with the policies they implement.

By not voting, my intentions are quite clear.

So you might as well live in Israel.

 

[Varun]

Pakistanis should let some Palestinians settle in Pakistan. After all it is the stronghold for the ummah. Look at the bright side, since they are Arabs and probably won’t watch cricket, some of you from Lahore, “Punjab” and from Karachi with roots to some random UP-Bihar village can gloat by pointing those fair skin Arabs to us and gloat about how superior your “new race” is what they do for a living shouldn’t matter; it’s not like the top of the cream ( not Hamas but scientists, doctors etc) won’t move to Pakistan anyways.

This should resolve the conflict.

Just checked a detail; in spite of all the war and terror:

Palestine per capita income: 7,060 PPP dollars
Pakistan per capita income: 6,110 PPP dollars

How did that happen?

 

[Local.Dada]

Just checked a detail; in spite of all the war and terror:

Palestine per capita income: 7,060 PPP dollars
Pakistan per capita income: 6,110 PPP dollars

How did that happen?

I think Isreal provides most employment and work there.

Maybe Pak should allow Adani bhai to generate some industry in Pak. Sadak se utha ke star bana dega. Will easily double their per capita income easily

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So you might as well live in Israel.

I think we might need to bump one of the multiculturalism threads.

 

[HalBass9]

So you might as well live in Israel.

Most would love to but they only accept Zionist. One of their requirement is mandatory military service, hence taking part in the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

 

[Varun]

Most would love to but they only accept Zionist. One of their requirement is mandatory military service, hence taking part in the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Which is why you're doing the next best thing I suppose.

 

[HalBass9]

I think Isreal provides most employment and work there.

Maybe Pak should allow Adani bhai to generate some industry in Pak. Sadak se utha ke star bana dega. Will easily double their per capita income easily

If Adani saw some big bucks rolling in, he'd be investing in Pakistan without a second thought, your beliefs wouldn't even be a footnote. The real game master here, Modi. He needs Y'all to buy into his scripted narrative to keep his power play alive. Without you and the loyal audience, Modi wouldn't be running the country, he'd be back at the chai stall, perfecting his signature equation. "Sugar + Tea + Milk + A pinch of anti Muslim sentiment = The ultimate recipe for manufactured hate".

Y'all gave him the grand stage to unveil an equation even greater than E=MC2, right from the White House. 'MEGA'.

 

[HalBass9]

Which is why you're doing the next best thing I suppose.

Seems like it’s worked, doesn't it? Globally, the narrative that Palestinians are barbaric is losing steam. The world, the Global South (minus India), and the West are starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project.

You seem a bit upset about that. Why?

 

[Varun]

Seems like it’s worked, doesn't it? Globally, the narrative that Palestinians are barbaric is losing steam. The world, the Global South (minus India), and the West are starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project.

Yeah, totally. This is the amount of money the US alone has funneled to Israel, besides other deals over and under the table:

2020: $3.3 billion
2021: $3.3 billion
2022: $3.3 billion
2023: $17.9 billion
2024: $95.3 billion (includes Taiwan and Ukraine as well, Israel got a portion of it but I'm sure a large figure)

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yeah, totally. This is the amount of money the US alone has funneled to Israel, besides other deals over and under the table:

2020: $3.3 billion
2021: $3.3 billion
2022: $3.3 billion
2023: $17.9 billion
2024: $95.3 billion (includes Taiwan and Ukraine as well, Israel got a portion of it but I'm sure a large figure)

I think the days of the US funnelling money into world projects is over. If they put money in, they'll want some return on it. They were getting nothing from backing israel, Trump probably sees Gaza as a real estate deal on a large scale. But that will probably see the US take control of it rather than israel.

 

[Varun]

I think the days of the US funnelling money into world projects is over. If they put money in, they'll want some return on it. They were getting nothing from backing israel, Trump probably sees Gaza as a real estate deal on a large scale. But that will probably see the US take control of it rather than israel.

Then let that happen first. It didn't happen during Trump's first Presidency for sure. Quite the opposite. #Jerusalem

 

[HalBass9]

Yeah, totally. This is the amount of money the US alone has funneled to Israel, besides other deals over and under the table:

2020: $3.3 billion
2021: $3.3 billion
2022: $3.3 billion
2023: $17.9 billion
2024: $95.3 billion (includes Taiwan and Ukraine as well, Israel got a portion of it but I'm sure a large figure)

And?

It is a colonial project, the last one, of course it has always been the US.

What is your point? that some of our tax money goes into that project?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Then let that happen first. It didn't happen during Trump's first Presidency for sure. Quite the opposite. #Jerusalem

Trump was labelled a Russian asset during his first term, now he's holding one to ones with Putin. The world has moved on, he's making up for lost time.

 

[Varun]

And?

It is a colonial project, the last one, of course it has always been the US.

What is your point? that some of our tax money goes into that project?

And "the West are not starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project."

 

[HalBass9]

And "the West are not starting to see it for what it is, a fight for freedom from the last colonial project."

You must be confusing Blinken with the rest of the ordinary citizens.

If it was not true then they didn't have to censor social media.

 

[FearlessRoar]

What are your thoughts on it?

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[JaDed]

Posted an AI video of Gaza with him and Elon and then him and Netanyahu chilling on beach.

Easily the most despicable president of Western world.

 

[rickroll]

I'm waiting for at least a modicum of acknowledgement from British Pakistanis that they were wrong in eagerly rooting for Trump but I only hear crickets from many of the British Pakistanis now that Trump has come back to bite the hands of muslims worldwide (the very same ones who were applauding and cheering him).

No American muslim would cheer for him, I mentioned it then in the Trump thread and questioned other muslims. But the same British Pakistanis said I was paranoid and was being fed propaganda (when ironically it is them pushing narratives from the media without ever setting foot in America and being out of touch with ground realities).

The hatred these British Pakistanis had blinded them from the kinship they should have had with their fellow muslims. It means nothing when you start bashing the Indians and Hindus but means a LOT when you can suppress your hatred to favor the kinship for muslims, which you lot miserably failed. I'm still fuming at the stupidity that SOME of the British Pakistanis showcased in gleefully cheering for Trump. None of the American muslims (or worldwide for that matter) can see you as true muslims once they see what you did.

I'm referencing this thread and I even included so many lins for Trump being anti-muslim even before all this started (post #219 in this thread) -- https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...24-can-he-succeed.307276/page-3#post-11879908 but the "usual suspects" in this thread let their hatred for liberals overpower their kinship for fellow muslims. I bet they are all hiding now too ashamed to speak up.

 

[Rajdeep]

What are your thoughts on it?

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@The Bald Eagle @DeadlyVenom if this happens i.e Trump makes the land of Gaza prosperous as a resort as shown in this video, will you guys support him?

Just asking because I was told yesterday that we must learn to alienate good and bad. So even though Islamic invaders were barbaric, we must appreciate their good sides i.e all the development and monument they have build.

Same to same in this case also na? We must alienate the bad side of genocide of innocent Palestanians and praise the good side of development work USA intending to do there ?

 

[Rajdeep]

No response as ususal.

@uppercut @Hitman @JaDed is my above question correct or not?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@The Bald Eagle @DeadlyVenom if this happens i.e Trump makes the land of Gaza prosperous as a resort as shown in this video, will you guys support him?

Just asking because I was told yesterday that we must learn to alienate good and bad. So even though Islamic invaders were barbaric, we must appreciate their good sides i.e all the development and monument they have build.

Same to same in this case also na? We must alienate the bad side of genocide of innocent Palestanians and praise the good side of development work USA intending to do there ?

Dumb question man....no logic at all...Even Trump isn't serious here and just one of his gaffe

 

[Rajdeep]

Dumb question man....no logic at all...Even Trump isn't serious here and just one of his gaffe

Question is not dumb at all. It is a totally valid comparison. Its just that you will not be able to give an honest answer.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Question is not dumb at all. It is a totally valid comparison. Its just that you will not be able to give an honest answer.

Ok fine at one side Trump keeps on pressing "Two-state solutions" and on the other side want to make Gaza a resort by evicting all Gazans to middle eastern countries....don't you see his obvious gaffe or confusion here???

 

[Rajdeep]

Ok fine at one side Trump keeps on pressing "Two-state solutions" and on the other side want to make Gaza a resort by evicting all Gazans to middle eastern countries....don't you see his obvious gaffe or confusion here???

What Trump is doing is not the point here. No need being ignorant deliberately. You very well understand what I am trying to imply.

Forget Trump, imagine some western leader tomorrow try to develop the Gaza Strip and build Casinos, Discotheques, Bars, tall buildings and many other un Islamic things going against the local residents. Will you be happy?

Thats exactly what Islamic invaders did. However we have told ignore their bad evil things but just praise the good monuments and work they have done. So will you similarly applaud the wester leader too for modernizing Gaza Strip?

I know even in next 100 years you will never gather the courage to answer this but its a valid question. Kisko bewkoof bana rahe ho dost?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What Trump is doing is not the point here. No need being ignorant deliberately. You very well understand what I am trying to imply.

Forget Trump, imagine some western leader tomorrow try to develop the Gaza Strip and build Casinos, Discotheques, Bars, tall buildings and many other un Islamic things going against the local residents. Will you be happy?

Thats exactly what Islamic invaders did. However we have told ignore their bad evil things but just praise the good monuments and work they have done. So will you similarly applaud the wester leader too for modernizing Gaza Strip?

I know even in next 100 years you will never gather the courage to answer this but its a valid question. Kisko bewkoof bana rahe ho dost?

Lol...I can knock you out in a single sentence and you have your whole life to answer my question.

Did Muslim Rulers evicted all Hindus to Andaman islands or cape of good hope? Answer my friend answer.

 

[Rajdeep]

Lol...I can knock you out in a single sentence and you have your whole life to answer my question.

Did Muslim Rulers evicted all Hindus to Andaman islands or cape of good hope? Answer my friend answer.

No they just killed and converted thousands of people which is more cruel than eviction. That too in an era when there were no UN, NGOs or mass protests against injustice.

As I said, you will NEVER be able to answer with a straight face. You know why? Its due to your religious beliefs. You have been taught from childhood that anything muslim must be defended.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No they just killed and converted thousands of people which is more cruel than eviction. That too in an era when there were no UN, NGOs or mass protests against injustice.

As I said, you will NEVER be able to answer with a straight face. You know why? Its due to your religious beliefs. You have been taught from childhood that anything muslim must be defended.

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No they just killed and converted thousands of people which is more cruel than eviction. That too in an era when there were no UN, NGOs or mass protests against injustice.

As I said, you will NEVER be able to answer with a straight face. You know why? Its due to your religious beliefs. You have been taught from childhood that anything muslim must be defended.

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

 

[Rajdeep]

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

Stop being silly.

Lets recap a bit. Yesterday brother @DeadlyVenom said we must differenciate between evil work done by Islamic invaders and praise the good work done by them like building monuments etc. A post you liked...so I presume you in agreement with him

So all I am asking for is, will you guys hold the same barometer for Israel? We know Israel is evil...even though not as much as say Alauddin Khilji but they evil for killing many innocent Palestanians. If tomorrow, hypothetically, Trump rebuild the Gaza Strip as shown in that AI video with tall buildings, Casinos, Discotheques, resorts etc. will you guys forget the evil work done by Israel and praise the development?

Not sure how much more clear I can make or in what Language should I ask?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Show me state sponsored mass conversion campaign and I will apologize you otherwise you will buddy.

#hey-himmat

@Rajdeep lol defeating silence...I Knew it

Stop being silly.

Lets recap a bit. Yesterday brother @DeadlyVenom said we must differenciate between evil work done by Islamic invaders and praise the good work done by them like building monuments etc. A post you liked...so I presume you in agreement with him

So all I am asking for is, will you guys hold the same barometer for Israel? We know Israel is evil...even though not as much as say Alauddin Khilji but they evil for killing many innocent Palestanians. If tomorrow, hypothetically, Trump rebuild the Gaza Strip as shown in that AI video with tall buildings, Casinos, Discotheques, resorts etc. will you guys forget the evil work done by Israel and praise the development?

Not sure how much more clear I can make or in what Language should I ask?

I like that post because you ignore the fact that Muslims were not systematic tyrants and did what was common in that era...clamp down against their enemies in war of empires. And as on Trump AI work....what big achievement??? Are you mad he is suggesting to make million of Muslims hopeless at expense of some casino and theatres....are you really in your senses that I or anybody would appreciate that

And on why I liked that brother @DeadlyVenom post because some Muslim rulers saved HINDU population from massacre at hands of the Mongols....also there were no Mughal rulers who discriminated against Hindus in government jobs and infact your favorite king like Akbar even invented a religion to show harmony with locals....and unlike British the Muslim rulers in subcontinent didn't send money earned from India to their parent country like Brits ....but but Brits don't reside in India now

 

[Rajdeep]

@Rajdeep lol defeating silence...I Knew it

I like that post because you ignore the fact that Muslims were not systematic tyrants and did what was common in that era...clamp down against their enemies in war of empires. And as on Trump AI work....what big achievement??? Are you mad he is suggesting to make million of Muslims hopeless at expense of some casino and theatres....are you really in your senses that I or anybody would appreciate that

And on why I liked that brother @DeadlyVenom post because some Muslim rulers saved HINDU population from massacre at hands of the Mongols....also there were no Mughal rulers who discriminated against Hindus in government jobs and infact your favorite king like Akbar even invented a religion to show harmony with locals....and unlike British the Muslim rulers in subcontinent didn't send money earned from India to their parent country like Brits ....but but Brits don't reside in India now

I am astonished you are yet to see the hypocrisy. Jaane do...believe whatever you want. All I am asking for is dnt open victim card threads like 'Does Muslim bias exists among hindutvas' and stop calling people bigots if they support Israel/Modi etc.

 

[uppercut]

I am astonished you are yet to see the hypocrisy. Jaane do...believe whatever you want. All I am asking for is dnt open victim card threads like 'Does Muslim bias exists among hindutvas' and stop calling people bigots if they support Israel/Modi etc.

EXACTLY !!!

In that Hindutva thread I exposed ALL the usual Islamic extremist suspects. Not one of them had any basic common decency to just accept that harming cows in India is not right. Instead they did all sorts of nautanki across many many pages to shift the blame on Hindus !! ... just think about it! This is why I chase down the usual bigots and chastise them upfront in these threads that they will run away(which they eventually do) when I start dealing with them.

But to answer your question that you posted in post# 182 yes you are absolutely right on the money. I asked the same thing in a different manner as to why the same bigots go around drooling the numerous Islamic empires but cry a river when the Indian army deals with the Islamic extremists in Kashmir in a brutal manner. I will tag you if I ever get an answer.



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[DeadlyVenom]

Stop being silly.

Lets recap a bit. Yesterday brother @DeadlyVenom said we must differenciate between evil work done by Islamic invaders and praise the good work done by them like building monuments etc. A post you liked...so I presume you in agreement with him

So all I am asking for is, will you guys hold the same barometer for Israel? We know Israel is evil...even though not as much as say Alauddin Khilji but they evil for killing many innocent Palestanians. If tomorrow, hypothetically, Trump rebuild the Gaza Strip as shown in that AI video with tall buildings, Casinos, Discotheques, resorts etc. will you guys forget the evil work done by Israel and praise the development?

Not sure how much more clear I can make or in what Language should I ask?

You are entitled to dislike the Mughals or Sultanates. I can't stop you

My point in your other thread was that you say that Muslims liking them make you hate Muslims which is something I disagree with.

No Muslim takes pride in their misdeeds, just as no Hindu takes pride in misdeeds of Hindus Maratha rapers. You are proud of their resistance but not proud of their rapes, isn't it right?

Using similar example - I have no issues with someone who praise Israel as being a progressive technically sophisticated state. But if someone is proud of Netanyahu genocide then we will of course have issues.

I don't label most empires as religious based, they fight mainly for worldly benefit. So I can never hate a Hindu for misdeeds of ancient Hindu kingdoms, or a Jew for misdeeds for Israel and I urge you to remove hatred for a Muslim for misdeeds of some historic Muslim.

No Muslim will be proud of the bad part but can have pride in other parts, just as you can have pride of Hindu history while still dislike past acts like caste and sati etc.

It's simple concept brother.

 

[sweep_shot]

 

[BouncerGuy]

Trump says US should 'take' Gaza and turn it into 'freedom zone'

President Donald Trump said on Thursday he wanted the United States to "take" Gaza and turn it into a "freedom zone", as the Israel-Hamas war rages on in the Palestinian territory.

"I have concepts for Gaza that I think are very good, make it a freedom zone, let the United States get involved and make it just a freedom zone," the US leader said in Qatar, adding: "I'd be proud to have the United States have it, take it, make it a freedom zone."

President Donald Trump on Thursday visited a US base installation at the centre of American involvement in the Middle East as he used his four-day visit to Gulf states to reject the "interventionism" of America's past in the region.

In other parts of the Middle East violence flared in the West Bank and Gaza. A hospital in southern Gaza says 54 people have been killed in overnight airstrikes on the city of Khan Younis with a pregnant Israeli woman killed even as the international rights group, Human Rights Watch, said that Israel's plan to seize Gaza, remain in the territory and displace hundreds of thousands of people "inches closer to extermination."

Trump plans to address troops at Qatar's al-Udeid Air Base, which was a major staging ground during the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and supported the recent US air campaign against Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis.

The president has held up Gulf nations like Saudi Arabia and Qatar as models for economic development in a region plagued by conflict as he works to entice Iran to come to terms with his administration on a deal to curb its nuclear programme.

The President also met business leaders in Qatar before heading to Abu Dhabi.

https://www.gulftoday.ae/news/2025/05/15/trump-says-us-should-take-gaza-and-turn-it-into-freedom-zone

 

[Farhan The Man]

No Muslim takes pride in their misdeeds, just as no Hindu takes pride in misdeeds of Hindus Maratha rapers. You are proud of their resistance but not proud of their rapes, isn't it right?

Using similar example - I have no issues with someone who praise Israel as being a progressive technically sophisticated state. But if someone is proud of Netanyahu genocide then we will of course have issues.

Let's put this idealism to test.

Are you proud of this hadees imploring mass culling of jews by muslims? Do you accept/reject this murderous call?

Narrated Abu Huraira:​

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."​

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2926​

 

[HalBass9]

Let's put this idealism to test.

Are you proud of this hadees imploring mass culling of jews by muslims? Do you accept/reject this murderous call?

Narrated Abu Huraira:​

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."​

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2926​

Zionism did not exists back then.

And if you were a scholar as you claimed, then you would be able to understand what it really meant, but like @uppercut, you are another imposter, trying to pretend to be an scholar.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Your regurgitated cry of humane treatment for self and others are immediately discarded.

When you support a religious call to murder. Of innocents.

Simply because they follow a different belief system.

 

[HalBass9]

Your regurgitated cry of humane treatment for self and others are immediately discarded.

When you support a religious call to murder. Of innocents.

Simply because they follow a different belief system.

Relax, ‘The Man’. You’re trying harder to hide your identity than RAW tried to hide their fingerprints in Balochistan. We get it, you’ve got WiFi, a fake flag, and @uppercut cheering like a sideline Bhakt.

 

[bk19xsa]

Your regurgitated cry of humane treatment for self and others are immediately discarded.

When you support a religious call to murder. Of innocents.

Simply because they follow a different belief system.

Dude, you are not here for cricket and nor other stuff except to spew your exi-hatred bile. All your posts reek of that.

So which one are you -
1. An anti-Islam IT cell slave?
2. An anti-Pakistan IT cell slave?
3. A mentally or physically scarred exi?

For 1 and 2 , you are not going to make much return for your handlers. Its a **** job and you know it. Also, doing this job doesnt prove your loyalty for their cause. You can be discarded easily.

For 3, I feel sorry for you. Whoever did injustice to you, may they be brought to justice. But you'll also have to let go of the hatred for Islam thats inside of you.

Going against Islam has only seeded misery inside the hearts of such people despite their material wealth and power. I have not seen one ever criticizing exi die a happy and satisfied person.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Going against Islam has only seeded misery

So you agree with this call of murder.

Live by sword. Die by it then.

No pity/empathy for you. Or ilk.

 

[bk19xsa]

So you agree with this call of murder.

Live by sword. Die by it then.

No pity/empathy for you. Or ilk.

What pity/empathy would I ever expect from an exi?

Thats like saying to expect sweetness from kala namak.

 

[uppercut]

Zionism did not exists back then.

And if you were a scholar as you claimed, then you would be able to understand what it really meant, but like @uppercut, you are another imposter, trying to pretend to be an scholar.

Have you ever been able to disprove any facts posted by me or @Farhan The Man in the past?

The only thing you are very good at is rabble rousing... come back when you have grown up and can hold a serious discussion without resorting to ad-hominem attacks.

 

[deltexas]

Zionism did not exists back then.

And if you were a scholar as you claimed, then you would be able to understand what it really meant, but like @uppercut, you are another imposter, trying to pretend to be an scholar.

So what does it really mean then ? Care to explain for the other so called non believers?

 

[deltexas]

Relax, ‘The Man’. You’re trying harder to hide your identity than RAW tried to hide their fingerprints in Balochistan. We get it, you’ve got WiFi, a fake flag, and @uppercut cheering like a sideline Bhakt.

Thats the issue here. You cant reply and do whataboutery. Every religion like Christianity , Hinduism etc etc will have something that doesnt conform to the present rational standards that we as humans know and practice. So just because something was written in a book thousands of years ago - doesnt mean you practice that to the absolute T. And thats why separation of church and state is so vital. The legal clauses and frameworks override these in a modern society which is not the case in the religious non-secular banana republic countries that have no concept of democracy and freedom of religion.

 

[HalBass9]

Have you ever been able to disprove any facts posted by me or @Farhan The Man in the past?

The only thing you are very good at is rabble rousing... come back when you have grown up and can hold a serious discussion without resorting to ad-hominem attacks.

Ah yes, supporting human slaughter over religious beliefs back home while casually shopping in US stores that sell every belief under the sun.

I don’t believe your split personality known as @Farhan The Man could or would approve of that, yet.

Oh you want to debate, cute.

 

[HalBass9]

Thats the issue here. You cant reply and do whataboutery. Every religion like Christianity , Hinduism etc etc will have something that doesnt conform to the present rational standards that we as humans know and practice. So just because something was written in a book thousands of years ago - doesnt mean you practice that to the absolute T. And thats why separation of church and state is so vital. The legal clauses and frameworks override these in a modern society which is not the case in the religious non-secular banana republic countries that have no concept of democracy and freedom of religion.

What?

No one stoning you to death in any Arab countries.

People are certainly lynching over a cow. One of them want to commit mass slaughter of humans while sitting in USA.

I don’t believe you understand the meaning of ‘whataboutery’. Try to read your own comment.

 

[deltexas]

What?

No one stoning you to death in any Arab countries.

People are certainly lynching over a cow. One of them want to commit mass slaughter of humans while sitting in USA.

I don’t believe you understand the meaning of ‘whataboutery’. Try to read your own comment.

Not getting stoned is your concept of religious freedom

 

[uppercut]

Ah yes, supporting human slaughter over religious beliefs back home while casually shopping in US stores that sell every belief under the sun.

I don’t believe your split personality known as @Farhan The Man could or would approve of that, yet.

Oh you want to debate, cute.

How is that homework assignment coming about ? Any progress ?

 

[HalBass9]

Not getting stoned is your concept of religious freedom

No one in the Arab world is being lynched for their religion, but in India, just like in every 3rd world country such Afghanistan, people are getting beaten to death over a cow.

And the funniest part? The self appointed intellectuals, shopping at the grocery stores selling beef, are out here handing out certificates of “education” while cheering on cow lynch mobs in India.

I knew you were special, but I didn’t realize you were that special.

 

[HalBass9]

How is that homework assignment coming about ? Any progress ?

When you bring up “homework,” it sounds less like wit and more like a distraction, because deep down, you’ve got nothing to counter the fact that you're defending lynching in the name of belief.

Your bigotry isn’t masked by jokes, it’s just wrapped in denial and served with a side of cowardice.

Hey @deltexas, want to help your buddy?

 

[uppercut]

When you bring up “homework,” it sounds less like wit and more like a distraction, because deep down, you’ve got nothing to counter the fact that you're defending lynching in the name of belief.

go ahead show me where I have tried to distract in order to avoid answering any questions you have ... which question remains unanswered ?

Your bigotry isn’t masked by jokes, it’s just wrapped in denial and served with a side of cowardice.

Hey @deltexas, want to help your buddy?

So if you are soo brave whats stopping you from answering a very simple question that I have been asking you for months across multiple threads ?

Here is that question again :

"Why are Muslims in India still deliberately killing cows despite knowing how sacred they are ... and why are you defending

 

[HalBass9]

Not true. In the muslim world.

You are stipulated to kill. For different beliefs.

Do you accept/reject this godly call to fight in name of religion?

Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture,1 until they pay the tax,2 willingly submitting, fully humbled - 9:29​

https://quran.com/at-tawbah/29​

I accept that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I also accept that, much like @uppercut, you're royalty, kings and queens of copy paste, recycling whatever fits your prepackaged hatred. One does it proudly as a Hindutva bigot, the other hides behind the mask of an intellectual atheist. Different costumes, same circus.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Attack the message. Not the messenger.

Do you accept/reject. Call to violence. In name of religion?

Yes/No.

 

[Technics 1210]

These 3 cult members have already broken the law on inciting hatred and violence. Protect PP by banning them now!

 

[HalBass9]

Attack the message. Not the messenger.

Do you accept/reject. Call to violence. In name of religion?

Yes/No.

Copy pasting scripture like @uppercut doesn’t make someone wise, it just proves they don’t get it. Keep performing for your echo chamber, they’re the only ones impressed. And since this all comes from a place of blind hate, it’s no surprise the messenger gets attacked, even when he clearly has no clue what the Qur'an actually says.

 

[Technics 1210]

Copy pasting scripture like @uppercut doesn’t make someone wise, it just proves they don’t get it. Keep performing for your echo chamber, they’re the only ones impressed. And since this all comes from a place of blind hate, it’s no surprise the messenger gets attacked, even when he clearly has no clue what the Qur'an actually says.

The cult are jealous of Islam as it is. Didn't uppercut tell you, his father's side is Hindu, and his mother's side Muslim. This is the case with a majority of the cult. This is why they remain confused with their identity and seek solace on a Pakistan Muslim majority forum.

Poor guy's can't even mix green with saffron cos it turns out as muck. Blue and Saffron works but blue simply means dead.

 

[Farhan The Man]

what the Qur'an actually says.

It says clearly: fight, humble, kill.

If others don't submit to your beliefs.

Pray tell. Whether you reject/accept this call to murder?

 

[Romali_rotti]

It says clearly: fight, humble, kill.

If others don't submit to your beliefs.

Pray tell. Whether you reject/accept this call to murder?

I don't believe you will get a straight forward answer from Mr Cliche for your question, deflecting tactics will be used instead.

 

[IMMY69]

It says clearly: fight, humble, kill.

If others don't submit to your beliefs.

Pray tell. Whether you reject/accept this call to murder?

What you reading?
The RSS book of extremism?

Go and peddle your nonsensical, hate filled posts elsewhere..

 

[Farhan The Man]

What you reading?

quran. Here again.

Do you agree/reject? For sake of humanity.

Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture,1 until they pay the tax,2 willingly submitting, fully humbled - 9:29​

https://quran.com/at-tawbah/29​

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What?

No one stoning you to death in any Arab countries.

People are certainly lynching over a cow. One of them want to commit mass slaughter of humans while sitting in USA.

I don’t believe you understand the meaning of ‘whataboutery’. Try to read your own comment.

You are dealing with trolls and hindutva desperados. Even the one claiming to be a Karachi resident has extolled hindu culture although he disappeared very quickly once this was pointed out. Wasting your time, you will never get a straight answer from his ilk, and the rest are desperate self-hating losers.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Please stay on topic... No personal stuff

 

[speed]

quran. Here again.

Do you agree/reject? For sake of humanity.

Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture,1 until they pay the tax,2 willingly submitting, fully humbled - 9:29​

https://quran.com/at-tawbah/29​

What's the problem here, I don't understand your objection?

 

[HalBass9]

It says clearly: fight, humble, kill.

If others don't submit to your beliefs.

Pray tell. Whether you reject/accept this call to murder?

This is exactly why you should actually understand a book before launching a crusade to discredit it. But of course, you never did.

Which is why no one takes you seriously, except @Romali_rotti and @uppercut.

@Romali_rotti will circle back to ‘India has more money, Pakistan has IMF’ like it’s groundbreaking, almost Cliche just as now a days Indians have just one narrative, OBL, OBL, OBL. lol

And @uppercut just wants to slaughter humans over beliefs, while people are out here trying to explain to him that being a mass murderer isn’t a viable career path.

Hope that clears things up for you.

 

[Technics 1210]

This is exactly why you should actually understand a book before launching a crusade to discredit it. But of course, you never did.

Which is why no one takes you seriously, except @Romali_rotti and @uppercut.

@Romali_rotti will circle back to ‘India has more money, Pakistan has IMF’ like it’s groundbreaking, almost Cliche just as now a days Indians have just one narrative, OBL, OBL, OBL. lol

And @uppercut just wants to slaughter humans over beliefs, while people are out here trying to explain to him that being a mass murderer isn’t a viable career path.

Hope that clears things up for you.

India doesn't have any money, if it did the likes you mentioned would not be living in Oz.

Also, the latest whooping has proven that while Pakistan my not have money, India has no respect now, and India showed the world how to beg outside of money - for mercy from Pakistan.

All these cult members exhibit compensation psychology - it means they have nothing and hope for everything.

 

[Romali_rotti]

This is exactly why you should actually understand a book before launching a crusade to discredit it. But of course, you never did.

Which is why no one takes you seriously, except @Romali_rotti and @uppercut.

@Romali_rotti will circle back to ‘India has more money, Pakistan has IMF’ like it’s groundbreaking, almost Cliche just as now a days Indians have just one narrative, OBL, OBL, OBL. lol

And @uppercut just wants to slaughter humans over beliefs, while people are out here trying to explain to him that being a mass murderer isn’t a viable career path.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Yeap does the deflection just as predicted...

 

[HalBass9]

Yeap does the deflection just as predicted...

The only thing I’ve ever deflected, and it wasn’t even my choice, was my ancestors decision to migrate to Pakistan during Partition. Imagine the alternative, stuck listening to Arnab every day, worshipping the Butcher of Gujarat like a divine figure, after being given the chance to not elect a religious extremist, and still choosing him anyway.

 

[Romali_rotti]

The only thing I’ve ever deflected, and it wasn’t even my choice, was my ancestors decision to migrate to Pakistan during Partition. Imagine the alternative, stuck listening to Arnab every day, worshipping the Butcher of Gujarat like a divine figure, after being given the chance to not elect a religious extremist, and still choosing him anyway.

Well, that's what you call the importance of making smart decisions in life.

Migrating to Pakistan was one thing however the failed science experiment that Pakistan has become today is due to the choices of its new owners. No money, no future, no hope but hey atleast when you die you get to go to heaven and meet 72 beautiful ladies (for the boys) not sure what happens for the females in heaven though....

While you sink your head in Butcher of Gujurat antics, giving importance to filth like Masood azhar, Hafeez Saeed whilst totally ignoring on your country's economy and future shows your brain is not calibrated properly and will never be. You keep backing your military lad, let those generals keep selling you the India boogey man narrrative so they and their families can live their luxury lives with their foreign homes and European passports whilst your country rotts more and more second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year.

I agree on the Arnab Goswami bit though

 

[Farhan The Man]

This is exactly why you should actually understand a book

It says: fight those who hold other beliefs.

Consequently, list is never ending with perpetual monstrosity:

muslims vs. christians​

muslims vs. jews​

muslims vs. hindus​

muslims vs. buddhists​

muslims vs. zorastrians​

​

and, muslims vs. muslims for 1400 years.

 

[uppercut]

Copy pasting scripture like @uppercut doesn’t make someone wise, it just proves they don’t get it. Keep performing for your echo chamber, they’re the only ones impressed. And since this all comes from a place of blind hate, it’s no surprise the messenger gets attacked, even when he clearly has no clue what the Qur'an actually says.

Don’t kid yourselves into thinking your religion contains some profound, layered philosophy that demands scholarly depth to "truly understand" it. Any layman can summarize it in a single line: “Either you submit and bend, or you bleed ... and we’ll write it off as divine will, then pat ourselves on the back for a job well done and move on to the next kill". Nothing earth shattering.

There’s no wisdom in threats dressed as revelation, and no enlightenment in a book that needs constant PR to sound peaceful. Keep clutching your verses ... the rest of us aren’t obligated to pretend that medieval war mongering is some sort of sacred insight.

As @Farhan The Man rightly said ... there is a reason why your despicable lot is in perpetual conflict with practically every major religion in the world ... including your own !!​

 

[IronShield]

Don’t kid yourselves into thinking your religion contains some profound, layered philosophy that demands scholarly depth to "truly understand" it. Any layman can summarize it in a single line: “Either you submit and bend, or you bleed ... and we’ll write it off as divine will, then pat ourselves on the back for a job well done and move on to the next kill". Nothing earth shattering.

There’s no wisdom in threats dressed as revelation, and no enlightenment in a book that needs constant PR to sound peaceful. Keep clutching your verses ... the rest of us aren’t obligated to pretend that medieval war mongering is some sort of sacred insight.

As @Farhan The Man rightly said ... there is a reason why your despicable lot is in perpetual conflict with practically every major religion in the world ... including your own !!​

Why is India so heavily marjority Hindu still?

If what you say is true then India would have suffered the same fate as to what happened in Mexico, Central and South America. You might want to educate yourself on what happened to indigenous populations and religions.

 

[uppercut]

Why is India so heavily marjority Hindu still?

If what you say is true then India would have suffered the same fate as to what happened in Mexico, Central and South America. You might want to educate yourself on what happened to indigenous populations and religions.

What is the context here ?