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Rajdeep said:
People who cant string a sentence together without barking 'Hindutva' irrespective of the topic, must wake up and smell the coffee. Repeating lies multiple times and shutting down few posters in this forum will not change the reality. Hindutvas don'y go around the world and ram cars in Christmas market, blow up subway trains or detonate themselves in busy highstreet. On a forum where even a dog being stolen in UP is reported, had Hindus have done even 5% of what being blamed here...we will see threads daily.
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When India gets bombed by the west, maybe you’ll start to see Hindutvas attacking Christmas markets etc.
 
Devadwal said:
Islamist are cursed on humanity .

Om Shanti
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Imagine a world without them. Sigh.

I am giving you a clue of creating a thread based on famous what if series started by brother @The Bald Eagle .

What if there are no islamists in the world..how peaceful will it be? Blockbuster discussion right there.

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay tough guy, you have really slapped down hindutvas here hiding behind your computer screen. And? That somehow defends the garbage going around in the world in the name of Islamic terrorism, is it?
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But where has anyone defended the garbage going round the world in the name of Islamic terrorism?
 
Rajdeep said:
Imagine a world without them. Sigh.

I am giving you a clue of creating a thread based on famous what if series started by brother @The Bald Eagle .

What if there are no islamists in the world..how peaceful will it be? Blockbuster discussion right there.

:kp
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Why not raise a thread? Would be an interesting topic.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Why not raise a thread? Would be an interesting topic.
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I don't post much in TP anymore as it gets too toxic. Hence restrict myself to cricket section only. However, looking at the course of discussion in this thread, couldn't stop myself but to respond. Afterall everyone has a limit to their tolerance level...lol.
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay tough guy, you have really slapped down hindutvas here hiding behind your computer screen. And? That somehow defends the garbage going around in the world in the name of Islamic terrorism, is it?
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Hang on a minute. It's you that resorts to " tough guy mentality" on a message board. Like I said previously. My offer still stands, Old Trafford test match next summer, (il remind you by the way) we can then discuss plenty of topics face - face.
 
If there was no Islamist there would be another group designated as the 'other; in Europe it used to be the Jews but no more it is the Muslims, it wouldn't even matter if there was no Islamism or terrorism produced from them - even if we all integrated we would still be the other - lucky for every other 'other' community.
 
Rajdeep said:
I don't post much in TP anymore as it gets too toxic. Hence restrict myself to cricket section only. However, looking at the course of discussion in this thread, couldn't stop myself but to respond. Afterall everyone has a limit to their tolerance level...lol.
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In answer to your question - since you don't want to raise the thread- would the world be so blissful without Islamists? Not if history has taught us anything. Genghis Khan, Hitler, Pol Pot etc were not Islamists.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Hang on a minute. It's you that resorts to " tough guy mentality" on a message board. Like I said previously. My offer still stands, Old Trafford test match next summer, (il remind you by the way) we can then discuss plenty of topics face - face.
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I speak the truth mate. That is all I do. This thread is about Islamic terrorism and nothing to do with Hindutva. People hiding behind Hindutva to divert the topic as they get personally hurt if Islamists are condemned.

List down the topics you want to discuss with me face to face so that I can prepare myself. I will be polite and go easy on you as long as you dnt call Bumrah a chucker. Then it will be no holds barred.

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
People who cant string a sentence together without barking 'Hindutva' irrespective of the topic, must wake up and smell the coffee. Repeating lies multiple times and shutting down few posters in this forum will not change the reality. Hindutvas don'y go around the world and ram cars in Christmas market, blow up subway trains or detonate themselves in busy highstreet. On a forum where even a dog being stolen in UP is reported, had Hindus have done even 5% of what being blamed here...we will see threads daily.
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Nobody here is defending ISIS or making excuses for them, relax.

The real comedy is watching some Indians twist themselves into pretzels trying to link every Muslim to ISIS, just to justify the Hindutva politician they proudly voted into power.
 
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YousafTheBeast said:
When India gets bombed by the west, maybe you’ll start to see Hindutvas attacking Christmas markets etc.
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India suffered under Muslim invaders through looting, raping, destroying temples, religious extremism, and forced conversions. However, Hindus living abroad do not resort to bombing or killing to justify that history. The British plundered our economy and completely destroyed the nation, requiring many decades to recover, yet Indians abroad are not killing or bombing British citizens in the name of country or religion. Hindus abroad are also not demanding religious laws like Muslims demanding Sharia law.
 
Rajdeep said:
I speak the truth mate. That is all I do. This thread is about Islamic terrorism and nothing to do with Hindutva. People hiding behind Hindutva to divert the topic as they get personally hurt if Islamists are condemned.

List down the topics you want to discuss with me face to face so that I can prepare myself. I will be polite and go easy on you as long as you dnt call Bumrah a chucker. Then it will be no holds barred.

:kp
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There is no such thing as Islamic terrorism. Ie Every Hindu in India who rapes a young child should be called Hindu rapism? Of course not.

ISIS is a CIA creation, who openly support them in Syria. CIA want Americans to be murdered by these nutjobs as it helps their narrative. There are many terrorists who we know were patsys used by western intelligence agencies.

They will kill every American or Brit if it means bending over to their Israeli masters.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
India suffered under Muslim invaders through looting, raping, destroying temples, religious extremism, and forced conversions. However, Hindus living abroad do not resort to bombing or killing to justify that history. The British plundered our economy and completely destroyed the nation, requiring many decades to recover, yet Indians abroad are not killing or bombing British citizens in the name of country or religion. Hindus abroad are also not demanding religious laws like Muslims demanding Sharia law.
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That was like 60+ freakin’ years ago, mate. Don’t think Raj from Southall is gonna plough through a bunch of civilians in his tractor because of what happened in the 1940’s.

If India was being bombed today, if the West was funding proxies inside of India today, then you’d have Hindutva fanatics retaliating.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
That was like 60+ freakin’ years ago, mate. Don’t think Raj from Southall is gonna plough through a bunch of civilians in his tractor because of what happened in the 1940’s.

If India was being bombed today, if the West was funding proxies inside of India today, then you’d have Hindutva fanatics retaliating.
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Exactly. It gets tiresome watching hindutvas making convoluted arguments to fit their own warped narratives because they hate their history so much.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
That was like 60+ freakin’ years ago, mate. Don’t think Raj from Southall is gonna plough through a bunch of civilians in his tractor because of what happened in the 1940’s.

If India was being bombed today, if the West was funding proxies inside of India today, then you’d have Hindutva fanatics retaliating.
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India was attacked by Islamist Kasab, resulting in the death of 150 people in the Mumbai Taj Hotel blasts. US WTC attack by Islamist extremists, killing hundreds. So, what is your point?
 
Cover Drive Six said:
India was attacked by Islamist Kasab, resulting in the death of 150 people in the Mumbai Taj Hotel blasts. US WTC attack by Islamist extremists, killing hundreds. So, what is your point?
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Are you really comparing one of incidents to years of invasion in the ME? Bruh let’s end it here man😂
 
No bhaijaan.

Let’s not insult everyone intelligence, as a self appointed big brother you should be condemning all form of extremism and supporting those who speak against extremists, be it Hindutva, ISIS, EDL, Z boys.

Bhaijaan should not be instigating hatred for few mins of entertainment.
 
This is weird since I don't think this perp is associated with Pakistan at all so why would Pakistanis have such an internal dialogue (according to you)?

Perhaps you mean Muslims, but the Indian posters have been quite careful to use the term "islamists" to take their digs.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is weird since I don't think this perp is associated with Pakistan at all so why would Pakistanis have such an internal dialogue (according to you)?

Perhaps you mean Muslims, but the Indian posters have been quite careful to use the term "islamists" to take their digs.
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See once again, why do “some” Pakistanis on PP get so annoyed when people are rightly condemning Islamists for terrorist attacks?

Does every muslim identify himself as an Islamist?
 
HalBass9 said:
No bhaijaan.

Let’s not insult everyone intelligence, as a self appointed big brother you should be condemning all form of extremism and supporting those who speak against extremists, be it Hindutva, ISIS, EDL, Z boys.

Bhaijaan should not be instigating hatred for few mins of entertainment.
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And i do that.

I don’t defend terrorists.
 
Bhaijaan said:
See once again, why do “some” Pakistanis on PP get so annoyed when people are rightly condemning Islamists for terrorist attacks?

Does every muslim identify himself as an Islamist?
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No Muslim is an Islamist, this is a term invented by non-Muslims to associate Islam with terrorist acts.
 
Bhaijaan said:
See once again, why do “some” Pakistanis on PP get so annoyed when people are rightly condemning Islamists for terrorist attacks?

Does every muslim identify himself as an Islamist?
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Terming extremists nutjobs with the religion itself is what frustrates people. They have no affiliation with the religion.

I dont see Right wing extremists ever being labeled from such a such religion.

Zionests extremists never get linked with orthodox Jewdism ( and rightly )

Yet somehow you get a Muslim nutjob, and suddenly he's linked with the religion it self. It reeks of hypocrisy.
 
At least 14 killed, dozens hurt on Bourbon Street in New Orleans as driver intentionally slams truck into crowd; attacker dead

A man intentionally drove a pickup truck into a crowd of revelers on Bourbon Street in New Orleans' French Quarter in a deadly rampage early on New Year's Day. At least 14 people were killed before the attacker died in a shootout with police, officials said. Dozens of others were injured in the attack. A black ISIS flag was flying from the truck's rear bumper, and the attack is being investigated as an act of terrorism, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said.

The man driving the vehicle has been identified as Shamsud-Din Jabbar, 42, a U.S. citizen from Texas, the FBI said.

In televised remarks Wednesday evening, President Biden said the FBI has determined that just hours before the attack, Jabbar "posted videos to social media indicating that he was inspired by ISIS, expressing a desire to kill."

The vehicle was an electric Ford pickup truck that appears to have been rented, the FBI said. Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said on social media Jabbar rented the truck on Dec. 30, while living in the Houston area, before heading to New Orleans.

FBI special agent Alethea Duncan said at a news conference Wednesday afternoon that investigators "do not believe that Jabbar was solely responsible" for the attack, and the FBI believes he may have had help carrying it out. Duncan said the FBI is looking at a "range of suspects" and does "not want to rule anything out" at this stage of the investigation. The FBI is also working to determine his potential affiliations or associations with terrorist associations.

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aboveandbeyond said:
Terming extremists nutjobs with the religion itself is what frustrates people. They have no affiliation with the religion.

I dont see Right wing extremists ever being labeled from such a such religion.

Zionests extremists never get linked with orthodox Jewdism ( and rightly )

Yet somehow you get a Muslim nutjob, and suddenly he's linked with the religion it self. It reeks of hypocrisy.
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It'll only stop when you stop reacting to it. What do you have in common with this guy anyway, that you have to feel threatened about?

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Take a leaf from the OG Muslims' book - bet the Saudi Arabians are sleeping peacefully tonight. Why shouldn't you?
 
Varun said:
It'll only stop when you stop reacting to it. What do you have in common with this guy anyway, that you have to feel threatened about?

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Take a leaf from the OG Muslims' book - bet the Saudi Arabians are sleeping peacefully tonight. Why shouldn't you?
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The day you get nutjobs hijacking your religion, you may then have a different view altogether.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Terming extremists nutjobs with the religion itself is what frustrates people. They have no affiliation with the religion.

I dont see Right wing extremists ever being labeled from such a such religion.

Zionests extremists never get linked with orthodox Jewdism ( and rightly )

Yet somehow you get a Muslim nutjob, and suddenly he's linked with the religion it self. It reeks of hypocrisy.
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That is bcoz these terrorists themselves kill in the name of Islam.

If some Raj from Southall drive a car in Christmas market shouting Jai Shri Ram and you find RSS flag in his car, will you not call it a hindu terror?

Similarly, when ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorists kill innocent people shouting God is great in the name of Islam, obviously people will bring the religion. The onus is on muslims like you to up in arms protesting and condemning these terrorists as it is giving your religion bad name. I see protests against Israel every weekend but why no mass protest by muslim world condemning these terrorist groups?

All we see from you lot is trying to deviate from this topic, do whataboutery, blame Zionists/Hindudtva and everyone else in the world except these terrorists themselves. I mean check your own response in this thread - "Maybe he was confused".

That is why no one in the world trust you guys - Israel, India, US, Britain, mailand Europe you name it.
 
Muslims do not need to justify why an employee of the US Army decided to murder innocent people. Wouldn't be the first time, or the last time.

Ignore the Hindutva cult, their boys got caught with their .......down when committing an act of international terrorism on Canadian soil, and they're still choking.
 
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Technics 1210 said:
Muslims do not need to justify why an employee of the US Army decided to murder innocent people. Wouldn't be the first time, or the last time.
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They don't, but you (Technics 1210) need to justify why you are continuing to fund the US/UK armies through your tax money when all they have done is invade one Muslim nation after another in your lifetime.
 
Rajdeep said:
That is bcoz these terrorists themselves kill in the name of Islam.

If some Raj from Southall drive a car in Christmas market shouting Jai Shri Ram and you find RSS flag in his car, will you not call it a hindu terror?

Similarly, when ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorists kill innocent people shouting God is great in the name of Islam, obviously people will bring the religion. The onus is on muslims like you to up in arms protesting and condemning these terrorists as it is giving your religion bad name. I see protests against Israel every weekend but why no mass protest by muslim world condemning these terrorist groups?

All we see from you lot is trying to deviate from this topic, do whataboutery, blame Zionists/Hindudtva and everyone else in the world except these terrorists themselves. I mean check your own response in this thread - "Maybe he was confused".

That is why no one in the world trust you guys - Israel, India, US, Britain, mailand Europe you name it.
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With your logic, all jews should be condemned because of the barbaric actions of the zionests.

All right wing nutjobs should be associated with their religion .

That athiest who drove in the Christmas market last week should be associated with every other athiest.

See where we going....
 
Varun said:
They don't, but you (Technics 1210) need to justify why you are continuing to fund the US/UK armies through your tax money when all they have done is invade one Muslim nation after another in your lifetime.
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Every nation is funding USA/UK armies when the USA $ is involved and no country has been able to abolish the USA $ successfully.
 
HalBass9 said:
Every nation is funding USA/UK armies when the USA $ is involved and no country has been able to abolish the USA $ successfully.
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That's a feeble excuse and something your brothers and sisters in Palestine, leave alone Allah, won't stand for.
 
Varun said:
They don't, but you (Technics 1210) need to justify why you are continuing to fund the US/UK armies through your tax money when all they have done is invade one Muslim nation after another in your lifetime.
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Our religion also tells us to obey the law of the land. And taxes are part of Law.

Now if the people who are running the country abuse the values of democracy then you cannot blame the common man.
 
Rajdeep said:
That is bcoz these terrorists themselves kill in the name of Islam.

If some Raj from Southall drive a car in Christmas market shouting Jai Shri Ram and you find RSS flag in his car, will you not call it a hindu terror?

Similarly, when ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorists kill innocent people shouting God is great in the name of Islam, obviously people will bring the religion. The onus is on muslims like you to up in arms protesting and condemning these terrorists as it is giving your religion bad name. I see protests against Israel every weekend but why no mass protest by muslim world condemning these terrorist groups?

All we see from you lot is trying to deviate from this topic, do whataboutery, blame Zionists/Hindudtva and everyone else in the world except these terrorists themselves. I mean check your own response in this thread - "Maybe he was confused".

That is why no one in the world trust you guys - Israel, India, US, Britain, mailand Europe you name it.
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This is a false equivalence. Why would some Raj from Southall drive a car into a Christmas market with an RSS flag shouting jai shri Ram? It makes no sense.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Our religion also tells us to obey the law of the land. And taxes are part of Law.

Now if the people who are running the country abuse the values of democracy then you cannot blame the common man.
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I bet your religion preferably tells you to live in a Muslim land in the first place. Do that and starve the invaders of precious capital they need for these unjust wars.
 
Varun said:
I bet your religion preferably tells you to live in a Muslim land in the first place. Do that and starve the invaders of precious capital they need for these unjust wars.
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Come on Man. Your a sensible and respected poster in my opinion.
 
We shall call it Hindutva or saffron terrorism but not Hinduism. Simple
Rajdeep said:
That is bcoz these terrorists themselves kill in the name of Islam.

If some Raj from Southall drive a car in Christmas market shouting Jai Shri Ram and you find RSS flag in his car, will you not call it a hindu terror?

Similarly, when ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorists kill innocent people shouting God is great in the name of Islam, obviously people will bring the religion. The onus is on muslims like you to up in arms protesting and condemning these terrorists as it is giving your religion bad name. I see protests against Israel every weekend but why no mass protest by muslim world condemning these terrorist groups?

All we see from you lot is trying to deviate from this topic, do whataboutery, blame Zionists/Hindudtva and everyone else in the world except these terrorists themselves. I mean check your own response in this thread - "Maybe he was confused".

That is why no one in the world trust you guys - Israel, India, US, Britain, mailand Europe you name it.
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The Bald Eagle said:
We shall call it Hindutva or saffron terrorism but not Hinduism. Simple
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Similarly rabid Islamist jihadi is not the same as Muslim or follower of Islam. I am sure ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban etc etc etc follow a different religion and religious text. I am not a religious expert so assuming based on the debate. Am I correct?
 
Local.Dada said:
Similarly rabid Islamist jihadi is not the same as Muslim or follower of Islam. I am sure ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban etc etc etc follow a different religion and religious text. I am not a religious expert so assuming based on the debate. Am I correct?
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They don't have anything to do with Islam. So would you call the same for Hindutva goons?

And Jihadists are those who fight for a noble cause rather than being propped up by some western masters.
 
Local.Dada said:
What is “I” in ISIS?
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If you weren’t so defensive about your support for Hindutva, you wouldn’t be asking such biased questions.

The actions of certain fringe groups claiming to represent a religion don’t make them representative of all Muslims. In fact, Muslims have consistently condemned these groups, which have inflicted more harm on Muslim communities than anyone else and often act out of selective interest for the global powers.

Now compare this to Hindutva. The majority of Hindus, primarily in India, have repeatedly elected and supported politicians who openly promote Hindutva bigotry while claiming to defend Hinduism.

Yet, Muslims in forums like this have been careful to distinguish Hinduism from Hindutva. Even so, such efforts provoke hostility because many Hindutva supporters try to conflate their ideology with Hinduism to justify their hateful narrative.

The term ‘Islamist’ in India is often used to describe anyone who opposes Hindutva bigotry, further misrepresenting dissent as extremism.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
It is the same what Hindutva is to Hinduism 😎
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This kind of illogical response, whataboutery and living in the state of ever denial is the reason people comes hard on muslims around the world. You will never get a straight answer from muslims condemning an ISIS, Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. The blame is always on US, Israel, Nato, Hindutva or someone else.

No religion teaches bad thing, else it will not be a religion. However, being a non-muslims I will not go and read your holy book right to understand what it actually means. When we see terrorists killing innocent people claiming to be doing for Islam and we see zero condemnation from muslims around the world, what conclusion you think we should draw?

Just yesterday Taliban banned windows so that women can't be seen. I am sure that is not written in your book and it is a twisted ideology they are implementing. However, I see no protest or condemnation from any muslim around the world. The same group of men and women who marches in London every weekend for the rights of Palestine never speaks out on the plight of Afghan women. You yourself have said here that Taliban regime is much better than when USA was there.

Action speaks louder than words my friend. Unless the muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns/protests every terrorist that is using the name of Islam, unless muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns the actions of Taliban, unless muslims around the world stops this whataboutery and try every trick to defend these terrorists, no one will trust you guys.

I will be honest to you, most people around the world don't see an ISIS terrorist separately from a normal muslim. They may give politically correct response in public but deep down there is always a generalization.
 
Rajdeep said:
This kind of illogical response, whataboutery and living in the state of ever denial is the reason people comes hard on muslims around the world. You will never get a straight answer from muslims condemning an ISIS, Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. The blame is always on US, Israel, Nato, Hindutva or someone else.

No religion teaches bad thing, else it will not be a religion. However, being a non-muslims I will not go and read your holy book right to understand what it actually means. When we see terrorists killing innocent people claiming to be doing for Islam and we see zero condemnation from muslims around the world, what conclusion you think we should draw?

Just yesterday Taliban banned windows so that women can't be seen. I am sure that is not written in your book and it is a twisted ideology they are implementing. However, I see no protest or condemnation from any muslim around the world. The same group of men and women who marches in London every weekend for the rights of Palestine never speaks out on the plight of Afghan women. You yourself have said here that Taliban regime is much better than when USA was there.

Action speaks louder than words my friend. Unless the muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns/protests every terrorist that is using the name of Islam, unless muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns the actions of Taliban, unless muslims around the world stops this whataboutery and try every trick to defend these terrorists, no one will trust you guys.

I will be honest to you, most people around the world don't see an ISIS terrorist separately from a normal muslim. They may give politically correct response in public but deep down there is always a generalization.
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lol, you want to not blame the handlers of terrorist groups just blame those who are committing the crime? Is that what you are asking?

😂😂😂
 
Rajdeep said:
This kind of illogical response, whataboutery and living in the state of ever denial is the reason people comes hard on muslims around the world. You will never get a straight answer from muslims condemning an ISIS, Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. The blame is always on US, Israel, Nato, Hindutva or someone else.

No religion teaches bad thing, else it will not be a religion. However, being a non-muslims I will not go and read your holy book right to understand what it actually means. When we see terrorists killing innocent people claiming to be doing for Islam and we see zero condemnation from muslims around the world, what conclusion you think we should draw?

Just yesterday Taliban banned windows so that women can't be seen. I am sure that is not written in your book and it is a twisted ideology they are implementing. However, I see no protest or condemnation from any muslim around the world. The same group of men and women who marches in London every weekend for the rights of Palestine never speaks out on the plight of Afghan women. You yourself have said here that Taliban regime is much better than when USA was there.

Action speaks louder than words my friend. Unless the muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns/protests every terrorist that is using the name of Islam, unless muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns the actions of Taliban, unless muslims around the world stops this whataboutery and try every trick to defend these terrorists, no one will trust you guys.

I will be honest to you, most people around the world don't see an ISIS terrorist separately from a normal muslim. They may give politically correct response in public but deep down there is always a generalization.
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Brother I will respond to you in detail and about condemnation for ISIS. Couldn't get what you are saying..

www.tehrantimes.com

Tehran condemns ISIS killing of acting Afghan minister

TEHRAN — Iran has unequivocally condemned the recent terrorist bombing in Kabul, which claimed the lives of several individuals, including Khalil Haqqani, the acting Minister for Refugees and Repatriation in Afghanistan's interim government.
www.tehrantimes.com www.tehrantimes.com

www.khaama.com

Pakistan condemns Kandahar explosion as 'Terrorist Attack' - Khaama Press

The largest online news service for Afghanistan
www.khaama.com www.khaama.com
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Brother I will respond to you in detail and about condemnation for ISIS. Couldn't get what you are saying..

www.tehrantimes.com

Tehran condemns ISIS killing of acting Afghan minister

TEHRAN — Iran has unequivocally condemned the recent terrorist bombing in Kabul, which claimed the lives of several individuals, including Khalil Haqqani, the acting Minister for Refugees and Repatriation in Afghanistan's interim government.
www.tehrantimes.com www.tehrantimes.com

www.khaama.com

Pakistan condemns Kandahar explosion as 'Terrorist Attack' - Khaama Press

The largest online news service for Afghanistan
www.khaama.com www.khaama.com
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Lol...you think everyone else is stupid? Honest question.
 
Rajdeep said:
This kind of illogical response, whataboutery and living in the state of ever denial is the reason people comes hard on muslims around the world. You will never get a straight answer from muslims condemning an ISIS, Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. The blame is always on US, Israel, Nato, Hindutva or someone else.

No religion teaches bad thing, else it will not be a religion. However, being a non-muslims I will not go and read your holy book right to understand what it actually means. When we see terrorists killing innocent people claiming to be doing for Islam and we see zero condemnation from muslims around the world, what conclusion you think we should draw?

Just yesterday Taliban banned windows so that women can't be seen. I am sure that is not written in your book and it is a twisted ideology they are implementing. However, I see no protest or condemnation from any muslim around the world. The same group of men and women who marches in London every weekend for the rights of Palestine never speaks out on the plight of Afghan women. You yourself have said here that Taliban regime is much better than when USA was there.

Action speaks louder than words my friend. Unless the muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns/protests every terrorist that is using the name of Islam, unless muslims around the world wakes up and unanimously condemns the actions of Taliban, unless muslims around the world stops this whataboutery and try every trick to defend these terrorists, no one will trust you guys.

I will be honest to you, most people around the world don't see an ISIS terrorist separately from a normal muslim. They may give politically correct response in public but deep down there is always a generalization.
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Majority of Muslim world have collectively condemn Taliban and Al qaeeda. Are you suggesting that Muslims should come out on the streets every time Taliban change law? It is the Job of Afghani people not Pakistani or western Muslims.

Genius response one after another.
 
HalBass9 said:
lol, you want to not blame the handlers of terrorist groups just blame those who are committing the crime? Is that what you are asking?

😂😂😂
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No I am saying don't come acting all surprised why people criticizes muslims and call it an Islamic terrorist. They have a very strong reason for it. Hiding behind your computer screen typing hindutva multiple times will not change the fact.
 
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Rajdeep said:
No I am saying don't come acting all surprised why people criticizes muslims and call it an Islamic terrorist. They have a very strong reason for it. Hiding behind your computer screen typing hindutva multiple times will not change the fact. Anyway, not sure why I am even engaging with you when you cant even string together a sentence without chatgpt..lol.
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The reason is simple, bigotry and an attempt to mask their sense of religious supremacy. Most of the world has recognized this, as evidenced by the ongoing efforts to ban TikTok.

You don’t have to engage with me, but you can’t stop others from calling you out for who you truly are.

As for ChatGPT, I encourage everyone to use it just as they would use Google to fact check and gather information. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Only someone who’s upset and unable to counter a valid point would resort to such childish remarks, thinking it amounts to anything meaningful.
 
The suspect in the Tesla Cybertruck explosion has been identified as US Army veteran Matthew Livelsberger.

Both attacks carried out by employees of the US Army at Fort Bragg.

Plan C for the Hindutva cult - what to do? Tesla bomber was white and a non Muslim.
 
Rajdeep said:
Lol...you think everyone else is stupid? Honest question.
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I actually believe this that those who criticize Islam because of these elements (like ISIS ) literally doesn't know anything about Islam. And my friend in such situation I can't help such people and ask them to study Islam which is again their choice.

A little PP example for you there is a poster here who by name appears to be Muslim but has everything foul to say about Islam and know you tell me If tomorrow I also impersonate as some Hindu and start to speak foul about Hinduism or your God etc then would I be termed as a Hindu or an imposter...by the way that poster claims him to be man but don't know whether he is man or woman
 
Technics 1210 said:
The suspect in the Tesla Cybertruck explosion has been identified as US Army veteran Matthew Livelsberger.

Both attacks carried out by employees of the US Army at Fort Bragg.

Plan C for the Hindutva cult - what to do? Tesla bomber was white and a non Muslim.
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Thanks for update brother @Technics 1210 if this turns out to be true then certainly some people would start disappearing. Although we won't call it a fault of Christianity
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Thanks for update brother @Technics 1210 if this turns out to be true then certainly some people would start disappearing. Although we won't call it a fault of Christianity
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BBC News - Person in exploded Cybertruck believed to be elite soldier

www.bbc.com

Person in exploded Cybertruck outside Trump hotel in Las Vegas believed to be elite soldier

Las Vegas police said the the person found in the vehicle with a gunshot wound to the head was Green Beret Matthew Livelsberger.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
Technics 1210 said:
The suspect in the Tesla Cybertruck explosion has been identified as US Army veteran Matthew Livelsberger.

Both attacks carried out by employees of the US Army at Fort Bragg.

Plan C for the Hindutva cult - what to do? Tesla bomber was white and a non Muslim.
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Please enlighten us which cult the New Orleans attacker follows.. :dw
 

Vegas Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger shot himself in head before explosion, police say​


Vegas Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger shot himself in head before explosion, police say

Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger shot himself in the head just before the explosion at the Trump Las Vegas hotel, police said.

Metropolitan Police Department Sheriff Kevin McMahill told reporters Thursday that Livelsberger, 37, was found inside the vehicle with a “self-inflicted gunshot wound” to the head.

Vegas Cybertruck bomber revealed as special forces soldier overseeing drones as first pic shows him posing in camo with rifle

Driver of Tesla Cybertruck killed in explosion outside Trump Las Vegas hotel is ID’d as Army vet

McMahill added that a handgun was found at the feet of Livelsberger, whose body was so badly burned, it was unrecognizable.

Source: New York Post
 
Champ_Pal said:
Please enlighten us which cult the New Orleans attacker follows.. :dw
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Suspects in Vegas explosion, New Orleans attack served at same Army base, sources tell Denver7 Investigates​

The Colorado Springs resident suspected of detonating a Tesla Cybertruck in front of a Las Vegas hotel and the Texas man accused of driving a pickup truck into a crowd on Bourbon Street in New Orleans served at the same military base, multiple sources told Denver7 Investigates.

Authorities were investigating the link as a possible connection between the two New Year's Day attacks, those sources said. There was belief Thursday morning that the two men overlapped but there was not yet evidence that they were assigned together or knew each other, according to an official briefed on the investigation who spoke to ABC News.

In a Thursday morning press briefing, FBI officials in New Orleans said there was "no definitive link" between the two events.

Matthew Livelsberger is accused of renting a Cybertruck in Colorado Springs, driving it to Nevada and packing it with firework mortars and gas cans before exploding it in front of the Trump International Hotel in Vegas Wednesday morning, killing himself and injuring seven others. Shamsud-Din Jabbar is suspected of plowing through a crowd of New Year’s revelers in the French Quarter hours earlier, killing at least 15 and injuring dozens more in an attack that sent shockwaves through a famous New Year's destination the morning of a scheduled College Football Playoff game.

Both men were confirmed to be Army veterans in the aftermath of the attacks – both of which were being investigated as possible acts of terrorism. Late Wednesday, multiple informed sources told Denver7 Chief Investigator Tony Kovaleski of the link between the two suspects' military service.

www.denver7.com

Suspects in Vegas explosion, New Orleans attack served at same Army base, sources tell Denver7 Investigates

Denver7 Investigates has learned that the suspects in the Las Vegas Tesla explosion and the New Orleans truck rampage on New Year's Day both served at the same military base.
www.denver7.com www.denver7.com
 
Now time to say but but he was an "Islamist" and a Christian who professed Islam at the last second, training as US Army soldiers at fort Bratt
 
The Bald Eagle said:

Suspects in Vegas explosion, New Orleans attack served at same Army base, sources tell Denver7 Investigates​

The Colorado Springs resident suspected of detonating a Tesla Cybertruck in front of a Las Vegas hotel and the Texas man accused of driving a pickup truck into a crowd on Bourbon Street in New Orleans served at the same military base, multiple sources told Denver7 Investigates.

Authorities were investigating the link as a possible connection between the two New Year's Day attacks, those sources said. There was belief Thursday morning that the two men overlapped but there was not yet evidence that they were assigned together or knew each other, according to an official briefed on the investigation who spoke to ABC News.

In a Thursday morning press briefing, FBI officials in New Orleans said there was "no definitive link" between the two events.

Matthew Livelsberger is accused of renting a Cybertruck in Colorado Springs, driving it to Nevada and packing it with firework mortars and gas cans before exploding it in front of the Trump International Hotel in Vegas Wednesday morning, killing himself and injuring seven others. Shamsud-Din Jabbar is suspected of plowing through a crowd of New Year’s revelers in the French Quarter hours earlier, killing at least 15 and injuring dozens more in an attack that sent shockwaves through a famous New Year's destination the morning of a scheduled College Football Playoff game.

Both men were confirmed to be Army veterans in the aftermath of the attacks – both of which were being investigated as possible acts of terrorism. Late Wednesday, multiple informed sources told Denver7 Chief Investigator Tony Kovaleski of the link between the two suspects' military service.

www.denver7.com

Suspects in Vegas explosion, New Orleans attack served at same Army base, sources tell Denver7 Investigates

Denver7 Investigates has learned that the suspects in the Las Vegas Tesla explosion and the New Orleans truck rampage on New Year's Day both served at the same military base.
www.denver7.com www.denver7.com
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You did not answer the question. Which religion did the New Orleans attacker follow that made him ram his truck into innocent people?

So what if the attacker was a former Army man or a real estate agent? What brainwashed him into carrying out that attack? I will wait for your answer.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Now time to say but but he was an "Islamist" and a Christian who professed Islam at the last second, training as US Army soldiers at fort Bratt
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New Orleans truck attack: What we know as details emerge about the suspect, the victims and the ‘ISIS-inspired’ plot​


www.yahoo.com

New Orleans truck attack: What we know as details emerge about the suspect, the victims and the ‘ISIS-inspired’ plot

At least 14 people have died after the attack on Bourbon Street early on Wednesday, the FBI said on Thursday.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

It does not matter what a Hindutva guy or a Christian guy in USA says. The attacker was ISIS inspired and was carrying ISIS flag on his truck. He was brainwashed by their ideology.
 
Champ_Pal said:

New Orleans truck attack: What we know as details emerge about the suspect, the victims and the ‘ISIS-inspired’ plot​


www.yahoo.com

New Orleans truck attack: What we know as details emerge about the suspect, the victims and the ‘ISIS-inspired’ plot

At least 14 people have died after the attack on Bourbon Street early on Wednesday, the FBI said on Thursday.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

It does not matter what a Hindutva guy or a Christian guy in USA says. The attacker was ISIS inspired and was carrying ISIS flag on his truck. He was brainwashed by their ideology.
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Do you have comprehension issues.... Also ISIS is same as Hindutva to Hinduism...have said this multiple times go ahead with something new now 🥱 🥱
The Bald Eagle said:

Vegas Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger shot himself in head before explosion, police say​


Vegas Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger shot himself in head before explosion, police say

Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger shot himself in the head just before the explosion at the Trump Las Vegas hotel, police said.

Metropolitan Police Department Sheriff Kevin McMahill told reporters Thursday that Livelsberger, 37, was found inside the vehicle with a “self-inflicted gunshot wound” to the head.

Vegas Cybertruck bomber revealed as special forces soldier overseeing drones as first pic shows him posing in camo with rifle

Driver of Tesla Cybertruck killed in explosion outside Trump Las Vegas hotel is ID’d as Army vet

McMahill added that a handgun was found at the feet of Livelsberger, whose body was so badly burned, it was unrecognizable.

Source: New York Post
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Champ_Pal said:

New Orleans truck attack: What we know as details emerge about the suspect, the victims and the ‘ISIS-inspired’ plot​


www.yahoo.com

New Orleans truck attack: What we know as details emerge about the suspect, the victims and the ‘ISIS-inspired’ plot

At least 14 people have died after the attack on Bourbon Street early on Wednesday, the FBI said on Thursday.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

It does not matter what a Hindutva guy or a Christian guy in USA says. The attacker was ISIS inspired and was carrying ISIS flag on his truck. He was brainwashed by their ideology.
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Both suspects trained from same army center Fort Bratt....insteading of wasting other times please read news first...still remember how you ran away from Saudi attacking Christmas market in Germany thread. Anyway come with something new
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Do you have comprehension issues.... Also ISIS is same as Hindutva to Hinduism...have said this multiple times go ahead with something new now 🥱 🥱
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The topic is on New Orleans crowd attack. Why are you bringing Vegas Cyber truck fire into this? You are trying too hard.

It is confirmed that the New Orleans attacker is a ISIS supporter and a convert to Islam. Just accept and move on. You are trying too hard.

Your desperation shows when you compared Hindutva to ISIS. Show me which Hindutva guy is attacking random people in the west and blowing up buildings in the name of Ram or Krishna? You are totally losing it.
 
This guy was no muslim and has no connection to islam or isis it's all mainstream media bs.

He is a black african american and ex military just like the cyber truck bomber is a from the military and a white American

They are trying very hard to link these embarrassing attacks for themselves to muslims , they have plenty of their own homegrown nut jobs.
 
^^ Great response. Expected from you. When the truth is right in front of you, first you diverted the topic, then you interjected Hindutva, then finally you put a laughing emoji.

Brilliant. :salute (y)
 
Champ_Pal said:
The topic is on New Orleans crowd attack. Why are you bringing Vegas Cyber truck fire into this? You are trying too hard.

It is confirmed that the New Orleans attacker is a ISIS supporter and a convert to Islam. Just accept and move on. You are trying too hard.

Your desperation shows when you compared Hindutva to ISIS. Show me which Hindutva guy is attacking random people in the west and blowing up buildings in the name of Ram or Krishna? You are totally losing it.
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In US, investigators and media are both linking these two incidents to be interconnect yet you beg to differ and wants to stay on topic finally. I am Glad

And on your second bit

Saffron Terror and Hindutva Ideology - Australian Institute of International Affairs

There are few states where a person or community's right to exist within a state's territorial boundaries hinges on religious beliefs. In today’s India, minorities are increasingly forced to chant “Jai Shri Ram” or face violent consequences.
www.internationalaffairs.org.au

Yet there is no such thing as Hindutva Terrorism 👏
 
mazkhan said:
This guy was no muslim and has no connection to islam or isis it's all mainstream media bs.

He is a black african american and ex military just like the cyber truck bomber is a from the military and a white American

They are trying very hard to link these embarrassing attacks for themselves to muslims , they have plenty of their own homegrown nut jobs.
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Yep but sometime people keep on harping lies as simple admission would expose their guilt complex.....but but he is a Muslim and represents 1.8 billion 🤣
 
The Bald Eagle said:
In US, investigators and media are both linking these two incidents to be interconnect yet you beg to differ and wants to stay on topic finally. I am Glad

And on your second bit

Saffron Terror and Hindutva Ideology - Australian Institute of International Affairs

There are few states where a person or community's right to exist within a state's territorial boundaries hinges on religious beliefs. In today’s India, minorities are increasingly forced to chant “Jai Shri Ram” or face violent consequences.
www.internationalaffairs.org.au

Yet there is no such thing as Hindutva Terrorism 👏
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By Dr Seema Khan
 
Our resident RSS Hindutva brigade are a pretty dum bunch...if nothing else it should give sane people some hope that RSS has such stupid members
 
Champ_Pal said:
^^ Great response. Expected from you. When the truth is right in front of you, first you diverted the topic, then you interjected Hindutva, then finally you put a laughing emoji.

Brilliant. :salute (y)
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He might be associated with ISIS, a terrorist organization that many Muslims have consistently denounced and continue to reject as representative of their faith. As evident on this forum, ISIS has no connection to the majority of Muslims. However, some individuals, particularly those who quickly defend Hindutva, are attempting to associate ISIS with Muslims on many platform.

This individual is reportedly part of the same group that allegedly overthrew a Russia-backed dictator. So, one must question who is supporting such groups because it is clear that Muslims are not.

This concept isn’t hard to grasp, so why complicate something that is quite straightforward?
 
Technics 1210 said:
The suspect in the Tesla Cybertruck explosion has been identified as US Army veteran Matthew Livelsberger.

Both attacks carried out by employees of the US Army at Fort Bragg.

Plan C for the Hindutva cult - what to do? Tesla bomber was white and a non Muslim.
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Watch the famous vanishing act as we type.
 
IMMY69 said:
Our resident RSS Hindutva brigade are a pretty dum bunch...if nothing else it should give sane people some hope that RSS has such stupid members
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RSS has nothing to do with the ISIS terrorist who rammed his truck into innocent people in New Orleans.

Try again.
 
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