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The Bald Eagle said:

Hindu terrorism - Wikipedia

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Hindu terrorism, sometimes called Hindutva terror[1][2] or, metonymically, saffron terror,[

I hope this is not written by some Khan too...
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You can find any random thing over the internet. For example this -

www.abc.net.au

Buddhist extremism: Meet the violent followers of a religion widely known for its pacifism

While in many people's eyes terrorism has come to be intertwined with Islam, militant monks and hard-line army generals in Myanmar and beyond are recasting perceptions of Buddhism.
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HalBass9 said:
ISIS has nothing to do with anyone in this forum either.
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No one is saying that anyone on this forum is an ISIS member :facepalm:

The point is, the New Orleans attacker that killed innocent people was an ISIS terrorist.

Funny how may are denying this.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Show me an example of a Hindutva terrorist killing or blowing up people in the West?

I can show you on the contrary countless instances of Islamic terror in the West.
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time.com

CAIR Director: ISIS Is Not Just Un-Islamic, It Is Anti-Islamic

If we want to stop ISIS, we must deny it any claim to represent Islam and starve it of the fuel of injustice.
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I don't know why you keep on asking me repeat same things again and again. All Muslims condemn these ISIS, ISIL etc ....elements so do you condemn Hindutva mob lynching Muslims in India ? Simple yes or no question.

Again I CONDEMN even ABUSE ISIS in strongest and staunchest terms. Go ahead your turn now
 
Champ_Pal said:
What vanishing act?

Do you agree that the New Orleans attacker was an Islamic terrorist at least?
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He was a terrorist, that has nothing to do with anyone who practice Islam. You won’t get to associate it with anyone who wants to practice their religion peacefully and provide for their family.
 
Yep agreed an ISIS member so what are you implying?
Champ_Pal said:
No one is saying that anyone on this forum is an ISIS member :facepalm:

The point is, the New Orleans attacker that killed innocent people was an ISIS terrorist.

Funny how may are denying this.
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HalBass9 said:
He was a terrorist, that has nothing to do with anyone who practice Islam. You won’t get to associate it with anyone who wants to practice their religion peacefully and provide for their family.
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So which religion was the attacker following? Shintoism or Animalist? :rolleyes:
 
Champ_Pal said:
No one is saying that anyone on this forum is an ISIS member :facepalm:

The point is, the New Orleans attacker that killed innocent people was an ISIS terrorist.

Funny how may are denying this.
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ISIS terroris he was, many have concurred that. Who has denied? But do read the post in its entirety.

Thanks
 
HalBass9 said:
He was a terrorist, that has nothing to do with anyone who practice Islam. You won’t get to associate it with anyone who wants to practice their religion peacefully and provide for their family.
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ISIS is not a religion. It is a group of people who practice Islam. They follow the same scriptures and the God and the Prophets that any regular Muslim does.

ISIS may not be Islam. But they are followers of it. Duh!
 
Champ_Pal said:
ISIS is not a religion. It is a group of people who practice Islam. They follow the same scriptures and the God and the Prophets that any regular Muslim does.

ISIS may not be Islam. But they are followers of it. Duh!
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So now Molana Champ pal will determine who follows Islam or not. Brilliant welcome to the fold of Islam
 
Champ_Pal said:
RSS has nothing to do with the ISIS terrorist who rammed his truck into innocent people in New Orleans.

Try again.
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You are hateful RSS ****tic, why?
Read your post^^^

Several billion Muslims in the world, almost all of whom condemn the terrorists and you're trying to label an entire religion as terrorists.
Don't say you're not because it's absolutely blatant
 
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HalBass9 said:
It could be anything you want it to be but you don’t get to decide it has to do anything with 1.8 billion Muslims who reject ISIS ideology.
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So all ISIS followers and sympathizers are not Muslims.

Is Al Qaeda Islamic or is Bin Laden a Muslim or a non-Muslim?

Is Tahrir al Sham and its leader Abu Muhammed Al Golani a Muslim or he is a plant by Yahoodis?;)
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Its funny! The amount of hatred Hindutwa behind a keyboard is beyond being funny
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Hatred?

Pointing out obvious is hatred? I don't jump the gun. I waited till the truth came out and pointed as to who did it. But usual suspects got all defensive.:rolleyes:
 
IMMY69 said:
You are hateful RSS lunatic, why?
Read your post^^^

Several billion Muslims in the world, almost all of whom condemn the terrorists and you're trying to label an entire religion as terrorists.
Don't say you're not because it's absolutely blatant
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I am a RSS lunatic and the ISIS guy and the tons of other Islamic factions around the world that are causing havoc are all normal. (y)
 
Champ_Pal said:
So all ISIS followers and sympathizers are not Muslims.

Is Al Qaeda Islamic or is Bin Laden a Muslim or a non-Muslim?

Is Tahrir al Sham and its leader Abu Muhammed Al Golani a Muslim or he is a plant by Yahoodis?;)
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As I’ve said, it can be anything you want it to be. What should matter is supporting those who reject them and standing with them. But it’s clear that’s not your intention, as it challenges your own biased narrative.

If they claim to be Muslims, so what? You insist you have no hatred for Muslims, but it’s obvious what you’re really trying to do here.
 
Champ_Pal said:
I am a RSS lunatic and the ISIS guy and the tons of other Islamic factions around the world that are causing havoc are all normal. (y)
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Yes because you're all so dumb by coming to to this thread in a blatant attempt to link terrorism to Islam
 
IMMY69 said:
Yes because you're all so dumb by coming to to this thread in a blatant attempt to link terrorism to Islam
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Tell me which religion did that New Orleans guy follow? Which religion does ISIS follow? Which religion Boko Haram, Hizbul Tahrir, Islamic Brotherhood, Tahrir Al Sham, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Lashkars of Subcontinent, Al Shahab etc etc follow?

Are you going to now say that they are all non-muslims?

I am done here. You put elephant in front of a group of people and that group insists its a cat. :rolleyes: :vk2
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Wow...would we ever get answer @Champ_Pal ?
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I don't know. But from what I read from News media, he does not like Elon Musk dominating President elect Trump. Trying to cause a rift between the two.
If the loon wanted to kill a bunch of people, he would not park the cyber truck in front of Trump hotel. He would have rammed it ala New Orleans attacker style.
 
Champ_Pal said:
I don't know. But from what I read from News media, he does not like Elon Musk dominating President elect Trump. Trying to cause a rift between the two.
If the loon wanted to kill a bunch of people, he would not park the cyber truck in front of Trump hotel. He would have rammed it ala New Orleans attacker style.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Champ_Pal said:
Tell me which religion did that New Orleans guy follow? Which religion does ISIS follow? Which religion Boko Haram, Hizbul Tahrir, Islamic Brotherhood, Tahrir Al Sham, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Lashkars of Subcontinent, Al Shahab etc etc follow?

Are you going to now say that they are all non-muslims?

I am done here. You put elephant in front of a group of people and that group insists its a cat. :rolleyes: :vk2
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You're still doing it....
Are you unable to distinguish a religion or belief from idiotic psychotic terrorists?
 
aboveandbeyond said:
You've gone beyond irrational. You've basically blamed the Religion, rather than the loony being a nutjob.
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They’re upset because their narrative is no longer effective. People are now able to challenge it, and the atrocities committed, including genocide, have made it even harder for them. The majority of Muslims have consistently condemned ISIS and other terrorist organizations, many of which have been supported by Western powers at some point, most recently in Syria.

Why else would they resort to banning platforms like TikTok?

The majority of Muslims define what Islam represents not a handful of misguided individuals.
 
Champ_Pal said:
I don't know. But from what I read from News media, he does not like Elon Musk dominating President elect Trump. Trying to cause a rift between the two.
If the loon wanted to kill a bunch of people, he would not park the cyber truck in front of Trump hotel. He would have rammed it ala New Orleans attacker style.
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Then he must be a stupid...because trump and Musk would become even closer with it
 
The delusions from members of this forum is nauseating.

Islamic terrorism affected many people around the globe than any other religion. The first step to solve an issue is to recognize it. You can bring in any other religion and try to normalise these incidents but it will not change the ground reality.

Islamaphobia exists for a reason and it will stay float due to these incidents.
 
IndoorCricket said:
The delusions from members of this forum is nauseating.

Islamic terrorism affected many people around the globe than any other religion. The first step to solve an issue is to recognize it. You can bring in any other religion and try to normalise these incidents but it will not change the ground reality.

Islamaphobia exists for a reason and it will stay float due to these incidents.
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The first step is to dissociate oneself from it and then identify its root causes. Muslims have done both. I think this frustrates you because, at first, the complaint was, ‘Why aren’t Muslims condemning this?’ Now that Muslims have condemned it, the response is, ‘This doesn’t align with our narrative, so let’s go back to blaming all Muslims.’
 
Hitman said:
True! If not for him, the likes of us would have had to flee India and settle somewhere else just to escape destruction.
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India will soon to take over Indonesia, y’all better move fast otherwise 😉
 
Worst “Hindutva” terrorist who is separate from Hindu :

Beat up some guy for eating/ buying beef or let’s say worst case scenario murder.

Bully some couple on Valentine’s Day

Finding loopholes in HI-B Visa

Ask some guy in a beard/topi to chant Jai Shri Ram/ Bharat Mata ki Jai

vs

26/11
9/11
London Bombing
Executions in Syria/ Iraq/ Afghanistan

so similar.
 
Local.Dada said:
Worst “Hindutva” terrorist who is separate from Hindu :

Beat up some guy for eating/ buying beef or let’s say worst case scenario murder.

Bully some couple on Valentine’s Day

Finding loopholes in HI-B Visa

Ask some guy in a beard/topi to chant Jai Shri Ram/ Bharat Mata ki Jai

vs

26/11
9/11
London Bombing
Executions in Syria/ Iraq/ Afghanistan

so similar.
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Gujrat Riots, beef lynchings. Golden temple massacre, daily killings in Kashmir, RAW killings in Balochistan. Killing of Khlaistan leaders in Canada and UK
 
I think therfore I am said:
Do you know ISIS was created by US, Israeli and Turkish intelligence agencies. Assad says Hi
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US might have created ISIS, they crated Taliban too, maximum they will provide money and guns, however what is the recruitment model? What do they use to motivate people to join and even blow themselves up? Are American soldiers joining ISIS? Don’t argue for the sake of arguing.

No one is saying all Muslims are terrorists or generalizing here.
 
Why are some people crying because that terrorist is Islamist?

Why Muslim poster's are in defending mood and bringing hindus??

Stop this sick mentality.

Om Shanti

:kp
 
HalBass9 said:
The first step is to dissociate oneself from it and then identify its root causes. Muslims have done both. I think this frustrates you because, at first, the complaint was, ‘Why aren’t Muslims condemning this?’ Now that Muslims have condemned it, the response is, ‘This doesn’t align with our narrative, so let’s go back to blaming all Muslims.’
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You failed at identifying root cause. You are still stuck with your identity. Who’s complaining about Muslims condemnations? Islamists are cancer to this society and it will be better off without it. They are like virus, destroying its host inside out. That’s the clear stance. I give two hoots about what you and your brothers condemn. That’s not gonna bring those innocent lives lost.

You are the first poster to bring in topic of muslim genocide in this thread and providing cover for the Islamic terrorist. That doesn’t seem like disassociation.
 
Devadwal said:
Why are some people crying because that terrorist is Islamist?

Why Muslim poster's are in defending mood and bringing hindus??

Stop this sick mentality.

Om Shanti

:kp
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Because these terrorists are not Islamist. Just because they have USA sorry ISIS flag on them and are labelled islamists doesn't make them Muslims.
Why don't you get that?
 
Rajdeep said:
Absolutely garbage to read usual suspects on this forum are openly supporting terrorism and defending them with zero condemnation. When I read some of the posts here, I wonder if some of these guys actually belong to the sleeper cell themselves. Aparently most of them lives in UK and USA and that is the scary part.
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Who has supported this attack here? Don't such post gibberish as posters here have only responded to the usual trash from the Godi Hindudva radicals here who won't let any opportunity go to ridicule Islam and Muslims. It's funny how nation where they have an elected Hindduva Terrorist butcher of 3000 civilians as a PM and Hindudva radicals who attack minorities in India and abroad on a regular basis and who cheer on the genocide of Palestinians take any stance over this.

This was just a mentally ill US army vet, just like any other usual daily mass murders in US, nothing more to it so Hindudva here need to calm down.
 
IndoorCricket said:
You failed at identifying root cause. You are still stuck with your identity. Who’s complaining about Muslims condemnations? Islamists are cancer to this society and it will be better off without it. They are like virus, destroying its host inside out. That’s the clear stance. I give two hoots about what you and your brothers condemn. That’s not gonna bring those innocent lives lost.

You are the first poster to bring in topic of muslim genocide in this thread and providing cover for the Islamic terrorist. That doesn’t seem like disassociation.
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What is Hindudva root cause of hating on Muslims and Islam so much? Muslims Moghuls ruling your ancestral generations?
 
Rajdeep said:
Okay tough guy, you have really slapped down hindutvas here hiding behind your computer screen. And? That somehow defends the garbage going around in the world in the name of Islamic terrorism, is it?
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Where around the world? You mean the countries where West has invaded and aftermath becoming a mess? You lot couldn't pinpoint half a dozen Muslim countries before 9/11 before the whole wars, invasion and destruction of Muslim countries created the mess. Muslims atleast don't make radical terrorists their PM like the biggest democracy with their known Terorrist butcher of Gujrat, neither bring in fascist parties ruling who openly attack minorities
 
IMMY69 said:
Because these terrorists are not Islamist. Just because they have USA sorry ISIS flag on them and are labelled islamists doesn't make them Muslims.
Why don't you get that?
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That terrorist was a Islamist.
 
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Local.Dada said:
US might have created ISIS, they crated Taliban too, maximum they will provide money and guns, however what is the recruitment model? What do they use to motivate people to join and even blow themselves up? Are American soldiers joining ISIS? Don’t argue for the sake of arguing.

No one is saying all Muslims are terrorists or generalizing here.
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No point in arguing with these folks. It’s always someone else’s fault. They never look at their own religions role in it.
 
IMMY69 said:
Because these terrorists are not Islamist. Just because they have USA sorry ISIS flag on them and are labelled islamists doesn't make them Muslims.
Why don't you get that?
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They believe in holy Quran.
They believe Prophet is the final messenger of God.
They perform Hajj.

They do all the above but still not Muslims.

Even Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is not a Muslim according to them. The name ISIS has Islam in its name. They follow strict Sharia. But these guys in Pakistan are real Muslims👍
 
IMMY69 said:
You are hateful RSS ****tic, why?
Read your post^^^

Several billion Muslims in the world, almost all of whom condemn the terrorists and you're trying to label an entire religion as terrorists.
Don't say you're not because it's absolutely blatant
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Don't say this when:

1. There are 1.9 billion Muslims in the world.
2. You disown part of them after incidents such as these.

Be safe and say "one and a half" billion.
 
Man in exploded Cybertruck was elite soldier and shot himself before blast

The man who drove a Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas was an active-duty US special forces soldier and shot himself dead before the blast, officials have said.

Las Vegas police have identified Matthew Alan Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado Springs, Colorado, as the driver of the vehicle, which he rented more than 800 miles away and drove to the Nevada hotel on the morning of the blast.

Mr Livelsberger's cause of death was suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to the Clark County Coroner's office.

Seven people were injured when the vehicle - filled with fuel canisters and firework mortars - exploded on New Year's Day. Officials said all injuries were minor.

Mr Livelsberger drove the Cybertruck to the city on Wednesday morning, less than two hours before the detonation, police have said. Parked in front of the hotel near a glass entrance, the vehicle started to smoke, then exploded.

Las Vegas authorities said the Cybertruck helped contain the explosion, sending it vertical rather than outward. The nearby glass doors and windows of the hotel did not shatter in the blast.

Authorities said they have yet to determine any motive behind the incident.

"I'm comfortable calling it a suicide with a bombing that occurred immediately after," Sheriff McMahill said during Thursday's press conference.

The sheriff said investigators recovered a military ID, a passport, two semi-automatic pistols, fireworks, an iPhone, a smart watch and several credit cards in Mr Livelsberger's name from the charred vehicle.

The body in the vehicle was burnt beyond recognition and was found with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McMahill said on Thursday.

Mr McMahill said they found two tattoos on the driver's remains matching ones Livelsberger had.

The Colorado Springs native rented the Cybertruck on 28 December in Denver.

Police were able to track his movements using a number of photographs on the drive from Denver, Colorado to Las Vegas, Nevada, along with Tesla's charging technology that helped map where he stopped along the route. He was the only one seen driving the vehicle.

Mr McMahill said there are several parallels - but no definitive link - between the suspects in the incident in Las Vegas and a truck attack in New Orleans that left 14 dead, which both took place on New Year's Day.

Both suspects served at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, though there is no record they served in same unit or were there at the same time. They also both served in Afghanistan in 2009, but there is no evidence they were in the same region or unit.

Both also used rental company Turo for the vehicles involved in the incidents, Mr McMahill said.

"We don't believe there's any further threat from this subject or anybody associated to him here in Las Vegas," he said.

Mr Livelsberger had decades of experience with the US military, having served in both the Army and National Guard. He was a decorated Special Forces Intelligence Sergeant.

He was serving in Germany but on approved leave at the time of the incident.

Mr Livelsberger's father told the BBC's news partner CBS that his son was in Colorado to see his wife and eight-month-old daughter.

He said he last spoke to his son at Christmas and that everything seemed normal.

BBC
 
New Orleans attacker acted alone and 'no definitive link' to Las Vegas Tesla explosion, FBI says

The man who drove a pick-up truck into people celebrating the New Year in New Orleans is believed to have acted alone, according to the FBI - as new information was revealed about the two improvised explosive devices (IEDs) recovered near the scene.

There is also "no definitive link" between the attack and the Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas, said FBI deputy assistant director Christopher Raia.

Shamsud-Din Jabbar's rented truck rammed into people in New Orleans' famous Bourbon Street, killing 14 and injuring dozens, in the early hours of New Year's Day.

Mr Raia called the attack "premeditated" and an "evil" act of terrorism, and said Jabbar was "100% inspired by ISIS", also known as Islamic State.

He also said the FBI was reviewing two laptops and three phones linked to Jabbar, as well as two improvised explosive devices (IEDs) recovered near the scene of the attack.

The two "functional" devices contained nails and were made of galvanized pipe with end caps, and taped inside two coolers, according to Sky News' US partner NBC News, citing the FBI and two senior US law enforcement officials. Both devices had receivers for remote firing, they said.

It was not immediately clear if Jabbar tried to detonate the devices, or if they malfunctioned, the officials said.

And during a search of Jabbar's home in Houston, investigators found remnants of bomb making.

Five videos posted in hours before attack

The 42-year-old army veteran, who was born in the US and lived in Texas, was shot dead after he crashed and opened fire on police.

The FBI said he posted five videos on his Facebook account between 1.29am and 3.02am - with the attack taking place around 3.15am.

In one, he said he planned to harm family and friends but was concerned headlines would not focus on the "war between the believers and disbelievers".

He also joined Islamic State "before this summer" and provided a will, Mr Raia told reporters.

A black ISIS flag was attached to the back of the white Ford truck used in the attack and was pictured lying next to the vehicle.

Authorities said Jabbar drove around police barricades on to the footpath, with witnesses describing carnage as the truck sped down the street, knocking people over.

"You just heard this squeal and the rev of the engine and this huge loud impact and then the people screaming," said one witness, Kimberly Strickland from Alabama.

Barriers protecting pedestrians had been removed for repairs before the attack, city officials said, and were due to be replaced with a new bollard design.

New Orleans police chief challenged by Sky's US correspondent James Matthews

While the works were taking place, they had been replaced with white gate barriers which were managed by the New Orleans Police Department, according to the City Of New Orleans.

Among the victims named so far are an 18-year-old aspiring nurse, a single mother with a four-year-old son, and a graduate of Princeton University.

What we know about Shamsud-Din Jabbar

The FBI also said CCTV showed Jabbar placing the IEDs near the scene. However, none of them went off.

The investigation is expected to look at any support or inspiration he may have drawn from IS or any of its affiliate groups.

The bureau has received more than 400 tips from members of the public and more than 1,000 agents and officers have been working on the case.

Jabbar held human resources and IT roles in the army from 2007 until 2015, and was stationed in Afghanistan for a year. He was then in the reserves until 2020.

A friend described him as "very quiet, very reserved, smart, articulate" and said he had been raised a Christian before converting to Islam a long time ago.

Meanwhile, the Sugar Bowl college American football game went ahead on Thursday afternoon, with a moment of silence beforehand, after being postponed on Wednesday following the attack. The city will also host the Super Bowl next month.

SOURCE: https://news.sky.com/story/new-orle...o-las-vegas-tesla-explosion-fbi-says-13282686
 
mazkhan said:
This guy was no muslim and has no connection to islam or isis it's all mainstream media bs.
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The Bald Eagle said:
They don't have anything to do with Islam.
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aboveandbeyond said:
They have no affiliation with the religion.
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HalBass9 said:
He was a terrorist, that has nothing to do with anyone who practice Islam.
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Champ_Pal said:
They are saying that guy has nothing to do with Islam. 🙄
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Yeah..this guy is not a Muslim and no affiliation with religion :facepalm


Bomb-Making Materials And Open Quran: What FBI Found In New Orleans Attacker Shamsud-Din Jabbar's Home

A Quran open to violence
The video posted by the New York Post showed a workbench in Jabbar’s bedroom set up for assembling explosives. Nearby, his Quran stood prominently atop a bookshelf, opened to Verse 9:111, which reads: “They fight in Allah’s cause, and slay and are slain; a promise binding…” The verse, widely interpreted as a call to violence by extremist ideologies, cast a haunting shadow over his already sinister acts.
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New York Post reported that in the trailer home bomb-making materials, a Quran open to a passage glorifying violence and a workbench set up for assembling explosives were found.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1874972142905016333
 
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If you go to YouTube you would find hundreds of credible educated Muslims who are openly condemning all terrorist attacks while at the same time acknowledging the shameful fact that majority of these lunatics often have a connection to a “certain religion”.

To be brutally honest this forum has often been the worst representative of Pakistani people. Majority of the Muslims here (British Pakistanis) are incredibly radicalised and get triggered whenever someone from Bharat points the obvious.

You all often try to make it Bharat vs Pakistan, Hindu vs Muslim, Islamist vs Hindutva on every topic when it’s just you all being rigid minded extremism leaning the brutal truth is that outside of this forum there is ample evidence that Pakistanis are becoming more and more realists and progressive as a community and don’t quite resort to defending terrorists just because someone from Bharat calls a spade a spade.
IndoorCricket said:
The delusions from members of this forum is nauseating.

Islamic terrorism affected many people around the globe than any other religion. The first step to solve an issue is to recognize it. You can bring in any other religion and try to normalise these incidents but it will not change the ground reality.

Islamaphobia exists for a reason and it will stay float due to these incidents.
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And these are allegedly slightly educated Muslims. If we can’t even reason with them presenting a blind eye and deaf ear to all the genuine concerns with Islamist and their frequent terrorist activities around the world then what chance do we have to save innocent people on the streets from the slightest of the lunatics from their community. Incredibly scary prospect.

Like you rightly said, Islamophobia is a world wide phenomena and it exists for a reason after all there is no smoke without fire.

They can try all they want but Hindutva isn’t a thing outside of troll Pakistani forums anywhere in the world in the real life. No one is debating about physical threat to peoples lives from Hindus anywhere in the world show me one debate on it and we will talk.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Yeah..this guy is not a Muslim and no affiliation with religion :facepalm


Bomb-Making Materials And Open Quran: What FBI Found In New Orleans Attacker Shamsud-Din Jabbar's Home

A Quran open to violence
The video posted by the New York Post showed a workbench in Jabbar’s bedroom set up for assembling explosives. Nearby, his Quran stood prominently atop a bookshelf, opened to Verse 9:111, which reads: “They fight in Allah’s cause, and slay and are slain; a promise binding…” The verse, widely interpreted as a call to violence by extremist ideologies, cast a haunting shadow over his already sinister acts.
116899080.jpg


New York Post reported that in the trailer home bomb-making materials, a Quran open to a passage glorifying violence and a workbench set up for assembling explosives were found.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1874972142905016333
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You are talking to people who have got similar mindset as this terrorist. Deep down they are happy with what this guy has done and have zero remorse for the victims. As I said yesterday, when you read some of the posts here from usual suspects, you would think they actually belong to the sleeper cell themselves. So no point in debating with them in this topic. Its just that every country around the world need to realize this menace and find a way to protest its citizen. With Modi, Trump etc., I still have hope left.
 
Bhaijaan said:
If you go to YouTube you would find hundreds of credible educated Muslims who are openly condemning all terrorist attacks while at the same time acknowledging the shameful fact that majority of these lunatics often have a connection to a “certain religion”.

To be brutally honest this forum has often been the worst representative of Pakistani people. Majority of the Muslims here (British Pakistanis) are incredibly radicalised and get triggered whenever someone from Bharat points the obvious.

You all often try to make it Bharat vs Pakistan, Hindu vs Muslim, Islamist vs Hindutva on every topic when it’s just you all being rigid minded extremism leaning the brutal truth is that outside of this forum there is ample evidence that Pakistanis are becoming more and more realists and progressive as a community and don’t quite resort to defending terrorists just because someone from Bharat calls a spade a spade.


And these are allegedly slightly educated Muslims. If we can’t even reason with them presenting a blind eye and deaf ear to all the genuine concerns with Islamist and their frequent terrorist activities around the world then what chance do we have to save innocent people on the streets from the slightest of the lunatics from their community. Incredibly scary prospect.

Like you rightly said, Islamophobia is a world wide phenomena and it exists for a reason after all there is no smoke without fire.

They can try all they want but Hindutva isn’t a thing outside of troll Pakistani forums anywhere in the world in the real life. No one is debating about physical threat to peoples lives from Hindus anywhere in the world show me one debate on it and we will talk.
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I pity members tbh. They have a massive chip on their shoulder being a Muslim and all.
 
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IndoorCricket said:
I pity forum members tbh. They have a massive chip on their shoulder being a Muslim and all. But these incidents aren't helping and reactions from these forum members aren't helping either.
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Muslims all over the world are very clearly and univocally condemning such acts. Only here do you find shameless defenders of Hamas, Taliban, Osama and all random Islamist terrorists.
 
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Rajdeep said:
This kind of illogical response, whataboutery and living in the state of ever denial is the reason people comes hard on muslims around the world. You will never get a straight answer from muslims condemning an ISIS, Al Qaeda or Boko Haram. The blame is always on US, Israel, Nato, Hindutva or someone else.


I will be honest to you, most people around the world don't see an ISIS terrorist separately from a normal muslim. They may give politically correct response in public but deep down there is always a generalization.
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This is fine, I can also see the logic. It is certainly easy to believe the black and white version of good vs evil. Especially if you come out the good guy and the "other" is the bad guy.

But it works both ways even if you don't want to hear it. If the worst Muslims can be used to represent Islam, then we can definitely do the same with other faiths as well. Especially when the vast majority elect leaders who unashamedly enable massacre of minorities and get lauded for it.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Yeah..this guy is not a Muslim and no affiliation with religion :facepalm


Bomb-Making Materials And Open Quran: What FBI Found In New Orleans Attacker Shamsud-Din Jabbar's Home

A Quran open to violence
The video posted by the New York Post showed a workbench in Jabbar’s bedroom set up for assembling explosives. Nearby, his Quran stood prominently atop a bookshelf, opened to Verse 9:111, which reads: “They fight in Allah’s cause, and slay and are slain; a promise binding…” The verse, widely interpreted as a call to violence by extremist ideologies, cast a haunting shadow over his already sinister acts.
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New York Post reported that in the trailer home bomb-making materials, a Quran open to a passage glorifying violence and a workbench set up for assembling explosives were found.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1874972142905016333
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It was a pre planned attacked and that terrorist belongs to ISIS.

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