Driver kills 10 ramming truck into New Orleans crowd in New Year attack

[uppercut]

What do you think of members who have a chip on their shoulders over the Mughal dynasty which ended over two centuries ago? That's not a chip, it's a boulder.

The underlying issue here is that in 2025 the rogue Indian Muslim community which thinks it is "Cool" to be proud of the acts of Genocidal war mongers from Bin-Qasim to Tippu whose resume consists of one horrific attrocity after another... did not even spare a freaking library.

(And Iam pretty sure this goes completely over your head considering your past posts and you will try to tell us why its ok to be proud of such vermins ... go ahead you can do it )

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The underlying issue here is that in 2025 the rogue Indian Muslim community which thinks it is "Cool" to be proud of the acts of Genocidal war mongers from Bin-Qasim to Tippu whose resume consists of one horrific attrocity after another... scumbags did not even spare a freaking library.

(And Iam pretty sure this goes completely over your head considering your past posts and you will try to tell us why its ok to be proud of such vermins ... go ahead you can do it )

All I get from that is you have a massive chip on your shoulder which proves my point in reply to your compatriot who tried to pretend that only Muslims have a chip on their shoulder.

 

[IndoorCricket]

What do you think of members who have a chip on their shoulders over the Mughal dynasty which ended over two centuries ago? That's not a chip, it's a boulder.

People can live in the past all they want and be happy about it. But the truth is , muslims in India are the most backward and illiterate of all communities. Even after rulling for centuries they were not able to uplift their own people. You can laugh all you want but it will not change ground reality, of muslims in India, similarly it doesnt matter how many deflection tactics used about this incident, Islamaphobia will only rise.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

People can live in the past all they want and be happy about it. But the truth is , muslims in India are the most backward and illiterate of all communities. Even after rulling for centuries they were not able to uplift their own people. You can laugh all you want but it will not change ground reality, of muslims in India, similarly it doesnt matter how many deflection tactics used about this incident, Islamaphobia will only rise.

I don't doubt that Muslims in India are backwards, but then I think Indians in general are backwards and it reflects in their country still looking like a waste dump. Trying to blame a minority for this just seems like blame displacement.

 

[JaDed]

Om Shanti,
He was a Veteran but not on field, in IT.
The guy worked in Delloite before doing this, and was paid 10k$ a month, that’s decent salary by Us standard.

He had issues but he should had come in surveillance as soon as he posted ISIS pro videos.

the below seems most plausible reason for this act, words from his half brother.

“Abdur said that Jabbar grew up Muslim, along with his entire family. He said that Jabbar stepped away from Islam, but found his way back following his latest divorce.”

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Om Shanti,
He was a Veteran but not on field, in IT.
The guy worked in Delloite before doing this, and was paid 10k$ a month, that’s decent salary by Us standard.

He had issues but he should had come in surveillance as soon as he posted ISIS pro videos.

the below seems most plausible reason for this act, words from his half brother.

“Abdur said that Jabbar grew up Muslim, along with his entire family. He said that Jabbar stepped away from Islam, but found his way back following his latest divorce.”

He was living in a trailer home after his real estate business and his marriage collapsed. Fair to say he might have been a bit unhinged, but....ISIS/OBL/Islam etc.

 

[JaDed]

Don’t know about the trailer yet as he was in Delloite so not sure why would he be in a trailer unless massive alimony , but there is a much balanced article from TOI

Friends and family struggle to reconcile Shamsud-Din Jabbar’s past with New Orleans attack: ‘No terrorist to me’ - Times of India

US News: Shamsud-Din Bahar Jabbar, a man who appeared to embody quiet discipline and faith, shocked the nation when he rammed a truck into a crowd of revelers .

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

The only one talking nonsense about him is the Husband of his ex.

 

[Bewal Express]

Horrible and evil.

 

[uppercut]

All I get from that is you have a massive chip on your shoulder which proves my point in reply to your compatriot who tried to pretend that only Muslims have a chip on their shoulder.

So me objecting to dingbat rogues who in 2025 eulogize and take pride in medieval Genocidal war mongers as having a chip on the shoulder?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So me objecting to dingbat rogues who in 2025 eulogize and take pride in medieval Genocidal war mongers as having a chip on the shoulder?

Yes.

 

[uppercut]

Yes.

Which then makes you a un-apologetic rogue bigot of the highest order. But then you might actually take pride in that label. Go ahead you can do it.

 

[I think therfore I am]

They believe in holy Quran.
They believe Prophet is the final messenger of God.
They perform Hajj.

They do all the above but still not Muslims.

Even Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is not a Muslim according to them. The name ISIS has Islam in its name. They follow strict Sharia. But these guys in Pakistan are real Muslims

Hitler said he was a Christian. The Spanish inquisition was carried out by Devout Christians. The Colonial empires justified slavery conquering through the bible

 

[I think therfore I am]

They are in delusion and can't accept that Whole World is facing problem because of Islamist.

The whole world is facing problems due to Western foreign policy.

 

[I think therfore I am]

Muslims all over the world are very clearly and univocally condemning such acts. Only here do you find shameless defenders of Hamas, Taliban, Osama and all random Islamist terrorists.

Who killed Ghandi

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hitler said he was a Christian. The Spanish inquisition was carried out by Devout Christians. The Colonial empires justified slavery conquering through the bible

In the past most were dirt bags. No question about it. They used religion to motivate their blood thirsty armies to justify their murders and conquests. Spanish inquisition was brutal. So were Islamic conquests. They did not spread from India to Spain by spreading the message of peace. Islam pretty much colonized half of the known world at one point.

Lets talk about the present day. No one cares who is killing who in the name of religion in their native countries. If a Hindu kills a Muslim for beef or a Muslim kills hindu or Christian in Pak or BD or Africa. The issue comes when the immigrants or converts carry out mass killings in foreign nations. In this case the Western nations. They are not going to go easy on such incidents like its just another day.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Who killed Ghandi

A murderer political activist.

What’s the point

 

[Champ_Pal]

Who killed Ghandi

Godse killed Gandhi for his biased politics favoring Muslims. Political murder.

You are going back 80 years to quote an example shows your desperation.

 

[FearlessRoar]

'This wasn't the man I knew,' says brother of terror attack suspect

The brother of the New Orleans terror suspect has said: "This wasn't the man I knew."

Authorities have named the suspect as Shamsud-Din Jabbar - a former US serviceman.

His younger brother, speaking to KPRC, an affiliate of Sky News's US partner, NBC, described the attack as a "tragedy".

He said: "This wasn't the man I knew. This wasn't the father, the son, that I knew.

He added: "This isn't any representation of Islam, or Muslims, or the Muslim community."

Sky News

 

[aboveandbeyond]

In the past most were dirt bags. No question about it. They used religion to motivate their blood thirsty armies to justify their murders and conquests. Spanish inquisition was brutal. So were Islamic conquests. They did not spread from India to Spain by spreading the message of peace. Islam pretty much colonized half of the known world at one point.

Lets talk about the present day. No one cares who is killing who in the name of religion in their native countries. If a Hindu kills a Muslim for beef or a Muslim kills hindu or Christian in Pak or BD or Africa. The issue comes when the immigrants or converts carry out mass killings in foreign nations. In this case the Western nations. They are not going to go easy on such incidents like its just another day.

Yep same applies to the zionests of present day.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Yep same applies to the zionests of present day.

Jews and Arabs have been killing each other for centuries. Its not always one way. There is a war going on right now and deaths are bound to happen mostly innocents.

Do you know how many Kurds have been killed by Turkey? Its over 40,000 since the beginning of the Kurdish independence movement. As you are reading this, Turkish army are bombing the hell out of Kurdish villages in Syria.

Kurdistan Workers' Party insurgency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thousands of Druze have been killed by the Fatimid army centuries ago. Even today, they experience ethnic cleansing from time to time whenever a war erupts there by Islamists.

Druze - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hundreds and thousands of Yazidis were slaughtered by Islamic State not long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi_genocide

Not to forget the regular Sunni and Shia killings where hundreds get killed each other. We don't have to travel to Middle East to see it. Even in Pakistan, they are killing each other. Over 23,000 Shias have been killed by Sunni outfits since independence.

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I don't even want to go into the Ahmedi killings or the genocide going on in African countries like Nigeria, Sudan, Mauritania etc. Its too many to count.

Its funny that some people only see the deaths of Palestinians or a few lynchings every year in India over beef. The mass murders and ethnic cleansing perpetrated by Islamic nations or Muslim on Muslim murders are ignored.

All kinds of killings must be condemned and pointed out. But the outrage only seems to come when the perpetrator is a non-muslim and the victim is a muslim.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Jews and Arabs have been killing each other for centuries. Its not always one way. There is a war going on right now and deaths are bound to happen mostly innocents.

Do you know how many Kurds have been killed by Turkey? Its over 40,000 since the beginning of the Kurdish independence movement. As you are reading this, Turkish army are bombing the hell out of Kurdish villages in Syria.

Kurdistan Workers' Party insurgency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thousands of Druze have been killed by the Fatimid army centuries ago. Even today, they experience ethnic cleansing from time to time whenever a war erupts there by Islamists.

Druze - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hundreds and thousands of Yazidis were slaughtered by Islamic State not long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi_genocide

Not to forget the regular Sunni and Shia killings where hundreds get killed each other. We don't have to travel to Middle East to see it. Even in Pakistan, they are killing each other. Over 23,000 Shias have been killed by Sunni outfits since independence.

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www.ohchr.org

I don't even want to go into the Ahmedi killings or the genocide going on in African countries like Nigeria, Sudan, Mauritania etc. Its too many to count.

Its funny that some people only see the deaths of Palestinians or a few lynchings every year in India over beef. The mass murders and ethnic cleansing perpetrated by Islamic nations or Muslim on Muslim murders are ignored.

All kinds of killings must be condemned and pointed out. But the outrage only seems to come when the perpetrator is a non-muslim and the victim is a muslim.

No need to go back in history like you said.

I'm merely pointing out a zionest extremists regime who are carrying out a Genocide PRESENTLY.

 

[Champ_Pal]

No need to go back in history like you said.

I'm merely pointing out a zionest extremists regime who are carrying out a Genocide PRESENTLY.

Some of the genocides I mentioned are going on right now like the Kurdish genocide by Turkey, African Christian genocide in Nigeria, Sudan etc.
Even in your own country Pakistan, the Shia and Ahmedi genocide is an ongoing one. We don't have to go centuries ago to see what has happened. It is happening right now.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which then makes you a un-apologetic rogue bigot of the highest order. But then you might actually take pride in that label. Go ahead you can do it.

It is you indulging in name calling and personal insults not me. I am happy to argue the topic on it's merits.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Jews and Arabs have been killing each other for centuries. Its not always one way. There is a war going on right now and deaths are bound to happen mostly innocents.

Do you know how many Kurds have been killed by Turkey? Its over 40,000 since the beginning of the Kurdish independence movement. As you are reading this, Turkish army are bombing the hell out of Kurdish villages in Syria.

Kurdistan Workers' Party insurgency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thousands of Druze have been killed by the Fatimid army centuries ago. Even today, they experience ethnic cleansing from time to time whenever a war erupts there by Islamists.

Druze - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hundreds and thousands of Yazidis were slaughtered by Islamic State not long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi_genocide

Not to forget the regular Sunni and Shia killings where hundreds get killed each other. We don't have to travel to Middle East to see it. Even in Pakistan, they are killing each other. Over 23,000 Shias have been killed by Sunni outfits since independence.

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www.ohchr.org

I don't even want to go into the Ahmedi killings or the genocide going on in African countries like Nigeria, Sudan, Mauritania etc. Its too many to count.

Its funny that some people only see the deaths of Palestinians or a few lynchings every year in India over beef. The mass murders and ethnic cleansing perpetrated by Islamic nations or Muslim on Muslim murders are ignored.

All kinds of killings must be condemned and pointed out. But the outrage only seems to come when the perpetrator is a non-muslim and the victim is a muslim.

That's a lot of information. I assume the point of it is to show that this guy's was inspired by all of those to run over a bunch of people in New York.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Some of the genocides I mentioned are going on right now like the Kurdish genocide by Turkey, African Christian genocide in Nigeria, Sudan etc.
Even in your own country Pakistan, the Shia and Ahmedi genocide is an ongoing one. We don't have to go centuries ago to see what has happened. It is happening right now.

I'm surprised you've left out how the Sikhs are coping under the Bjp regime.

 

[JaDed]

I'm surprised you've left out how the Sikhs are coping under the Bjp regime.

In all honesty they are much better than Congress, they are going through a decline overall, Punjab not Sikhs, Sikhs in any other part of India are doing extremely well.

Punjab irrespective of religion is doing bad overall, then went from top per capita GDP in 2000, to crap not because of BJP or Congress but because of themselves.

Congress 1984-1995 was most brutal to them , but surprisingly they (along with other Punjabis) were most productive under them.(compared to rest of India).

 

[The Bald Eagle]

He added: "This isn't any representation of Islam, or Muslims, or the Muslim community."

@Champ_Pal anything else. I guess your argument had died umpteen times now.

 

[JaDed]

From a logical point of view this is what it seems:
1. He couldn’t take his divorce and failure of entrepreneurial business
2. He reconverted to Islam but clearly anger stemmed from either moving away from it or from how life turned out.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I'm surprised you've left out how the Sikhs are coping under the Bjp regime.

How many Sikhs are killed under BJP?

Post the stats.

 

[Champ_Pal]

@Champ_Pal anything else. I guess your argument had died umpteen times now.

Of course why will the brother of that terrorist say that his brother is inspired by Islam?

The man was caught with an ISIS flag on his truck and the attackers room had Quran which he obviously reads and you are trying to say this has nothing to do with Islam.

You can try hard to distance these people from Islam. But the world does not believe your narrative about these Western Jihadis.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Of course why will the brother of that terrorist say that his brother is inspired by Islam?

The man was caught with an ISIS flag on his truck and the attackers room had Quran which he obviously reads and you are trying to say this has nothing to do with Islam.

You can try hard to distance these people from Islam. But the world does not believe your narrative about these Western Jihadis.

Lol...world or you. Or may be with out the fox media clique

 

[Champ_Pal]

Lol...world or you. Or may be with out the fox media clique

Even Left wing pro muslim outlets like Yahoo are calling it an Islamist attack and you are saying it has nothing to do with Islam.
The man went through personal issues like Divorce and loss of business. He converted and got radicalized by Islamic Extremists. Took the extreme step. But you say the whole incident has nothing to do with Islam.

An Army veteran's path to radicalization followed divorces, struggling businesses in Texas

Shamsud-Din Jabbar grew up in Texas, joined the U.S. Army and eventually settled in Houston, where he spun up a real estate business and made $120,000 a year for one of the world’s largest consulting firms. On Thursday, authorities and relatives were still piecing together why Jabbar barreled...

www.yahoo.com

You are relying on his brother Abdul Rahim Jabbar and his quote that this has nothing to do with Islam. We will take as truth as to what his brother says whose name is Abdul Rahim Jabbar.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Even Left wing pro muslim outlets like Yahoo are calling it an Islamist attack and you are saying it has nothing to do with Islam.
The man went through personal issues like Divorce and loss of business. He converted and got radicalized by Islamic Extremists. Took the extreme step. But you say the whole incident has nothing to do with Islam.

An Army veteran's path to radicalization followed divorces, struggling businesses in Texas

Shamsud-Din Jabbar grew up in Texas, joined the U.S. Army and eventually settled in Houston, where he spun up a real estate business and made $120,000 a year for one of the world’s largest consulting firms. On Thursday, authorities and relatives were still piecing together why Jabbar barreled...

www.yahoo.com

You are relying on his brother Abdul Rahim Jabbar and his quote that this has nothing to do with Islam. We will take as truth as to what his brother says whose name is Abdul Rahim Jabbar.

Hahahah...ok whatever make you feel good. Thanks to PP community, we had already settled that tomorrow. Enjoyed that

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Hahahah...ok whatever make you feel good. Thanks to PP community, we had already settled that tomorrow. Enjoyed that

One more thing, they did it with proper logic and links...still anybody can revisit earlier pages

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hahahah...ok whatever make you feel good. Thanks to PP community, we had already settled that tomorrow. Enjoyed that

Now that I exposed your explanation, you are saying that it makes me feel good.

You can live in a bubble. The world does not.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I don't know. But from what I read from News media, he does not like Elon Musk dominating President elect Trump. Trying to cause a rift between the two.
If the loon wanted to kill a bunch of people, he would not park the cyber truck in front of Trump hotel. He would have rammed it ala New Orleans attacker style.

By that logic he must be a Christian who was inspired by Bible

 

[DeadlyVenom]

iSIS is not a reactionary movement to western terrorism in the ME. It is a nihilistic death cult that has caused misery worldwide - primarily to Muslims.

Do not try to contextualize this sickos actions or give any explanation for them. He was mentally ill and found an outlet for his illness and a warped cause that would help him justify his sh!t life. He couldn't give a rats ass about west,middle east, Afghanistan etc.

If ISIS had given him a plane ticket he would have traveled to a Muslim country and bombed a mosque there.

 

[Champ_Pal]

By that logic he must be a Christian who was inspired by Bible

Did he justify his actions by quoting Bible? Terrorists have various reasons to justify their actions.

In the New Orleans attacker's case, he was radicalized by ISIS and took the extreme step. The man had to drive from Texas all the way to New Orleans Bourbon street where you know what happens during Spring breaks and party time.
I doubt ISIS taught him Bible or String Theory

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Did he justify his actions by quoting Bible? Terrorists have various reasons to justify their actions.

In the New Orleans attacker's case, he was radicalized by ISIS and took the extreme step. The man had to drive from Texas all the way to New Orleans Bourbon street where you know what happens during Spring breaks and party time.
I doubt ISIS taught him Bible or String Theory

Even you know Quran better than ISIS lol...but you are still hesitant. But great you earlier acknowledged whatever ISIS does is not Islam.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Even you know Quran better than ISIS lol...but you are still hesitant. But great you earlier acknowledged whatever ISIS does is not Islam.

You guys are the ones saying that ISIS is not Islamic. Not me.

ISIS may be following a different version of Islam or interpret the verses in a different way. But essentially they are reading the same book and do everything a Muslim does and more.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You guys are the ones saying that ISIS is not Islamic. Not me.

ISIS may be following a different version of Islam or interpret the verses in a different way. But essentially they are reading the same book and do everything a Muslim does and more.

Which version iOS 17 or iOS 18....stop making fun of yourself...

Global Condemnations of ISIS/ISIL - ING

A common criticism of Muslims globally is that they remain silent, and therefore are essentially complicit, in the face of violence, extremism, and terrorism in the name of Islam. But this is not the case at all. Often the loudest critics of extremism are the co-religionists themselves, not...

ing.org

CAIR Director: ISIS Is Not Just Un-Islamic, It Is Anti-Islamic

If we want to stop ISIS, we must deny it any claim to represent Islam and starve it of the fuel of injustice.

time.com

 

[Champ_Pal]

Which version iOS 17 or iOS 18....stop making fun of yourself...

Global Condemnations of ISIS/ISIL - ING

A common criticism of Muslims globally is that they remain silent, and therefore are essentially complicit, in the face of violence, extremism, and terrorism in the name of Islam. But this is not the case at all. Often the loudest critics of extremism are the co-religionists themselves, not...

ing.org

CAIR Director: ISIS Is Not Just Un-Islamic, It Is Anti-Islamic

If we want to stop ISIS, we must deny it any claim to represent Islam and starve it of the fuel of injustice.

time.com

I don't know. You tell me. You are the Muslim. I can only correct if I see some discrepancies or deliberate lies.

Which version does Taliban follow? Which version ISIS follows? What about the version followed by Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shahab, Boko Haram, HTS etc follow? I am sure you know they all follow and read the same version of Quran.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I don't know. You tell me. You are the Muslim. I can only correct if I see some discrepancies or deliberate lies.

Which version does Taliban follow? Which version ISIS follows? What about the version followed by Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shahab, Boko Haram, HTS etc follow? I am sure you know they all follow and read the same version of Quran.

Hamas, Hezbollah follow the right version, fighting the despots for the innocent and they do it for their people rather than funds from the west.

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[The Bald Eagle]

I don't know. You tell me. You are the Muslim. I can only correct if I see some discrepancies or deliberate lies.

Which version does Taliban follow? Which version ISIS follows? What about the version followed by Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shahab, Boko Haram, HTS etc follow? I am sure you know they all follow and read the same version of Quran.

@Champ_Pal why ISIS never targets Israel

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hamas, Hezbollah follow the right version, fighting the despots for the innocent and they do it for their people rather than funds from the west.

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So Afghanistan is a non-muslim nation according to you?

 

[Champ_Pal]

@Champ_Pal why ISIS never targets Israel

They know very well to not mess with Israel. The response will be brutal.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Where did I said that?

So Afghanistan is a non-muslim nation according to you?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Where did I said that?

You said Hamas and Hezbollah follow the right version. Which means others don't.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

They know very well to not mess with Israel. The response will be brutal.

What a flawed logic....but Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Quds forces, Houthis don't know that clapping for you man.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You said Hamas and Hezbollah follow the right version. Which means others don't.

ISIS, Daesh, Boko Haram....Taliban are not like them atleast the one which aren't running on Indian funds

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I don't know. You tell me. You are the Muslim. I can only correct if I see some discrepancies or deliberate lies.

Which version does Taliban follow? Which version ISIS follows? What about the version followed by Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shahab, Boko Haram, HTS etc follow? I am sure you know they all follow and read the same version of Quran.

What version do the zionest read to justify this mass genocide?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What version do the zionest read to justify this mass genocide?

Silence.......silence.....knock out punch delivered

 

[aboveandbeyond]

They know very well to not mess with Israel. The response will be brutal.

So isis bombs U.S, yet it's terrified of Isreal?

What you smoking pal.

 

[Champ_Pal]

What version do the zionest read to justify this mass genocide?

I don't know. Ask them.

The topic is on New Orleans Islamist attack. Stick to it. I am sure the mods will appreciate it too.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I don't know. Ask them.

The topic is on New Orleans Islamist attack. Stick to it. I am sure the mods will appreciate it too.

Hahahaha ....Mr Champ Pal...you always know very well about the version of Islam that each Muslim follows from Afghanistan to Africa but when it comes to India's friend the zines then you don't seem to have any clue.

Salute to your logic

 

[Champ_Pal]

So isis bombs U.S, yet it's terrified of Isreal?

What you smoking pal.

They only attack US military installations around the world like Al Qaeda did. They do not directly attack US directly on its land or invade it.

ISIS cannot directly attack Israel. May be collaborate with Hamas. I don't know. We all saw what happened to Hamas after the Oct 7 attacks on Israel. They are still afraid to come out in the open and fight.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

They only attack US military installations around the world like Al Qaeda did. They do not directly attack US directly on its land or invade it.

ISIS cannot directly attack Israel. May be collaborate with Hamas. I don't know. We all saw what happened to Hamas after the Oct 7 attacks on Israel. They are still afraid to come out in the open and fight.

We want answer not digressing Mr Pal.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Hahahaha ....Mr Champ Pal...you always know very well about the version of Islam that each Muslim follows from Afghanistan to Africa but when it comes to India's friend the zines then you don't seem to have any clue.

Salute to your logic

You are a mod yourself and still talking about Zionists and diverting the topic on hand.

Lets say Zionists are terrorists. I don't really care whether they are terrorists or not.

You are trying to justify what ISIS or Hamas or Hezbollah or the million other Islamic outfits around the world causing mayhem.

 

[Champ_Pal]

We want answer not digressing Mr Pal.

Answer for what?

The topic is on the New Orleans attack and you want me to answer what Israel or US or France does?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I don't know. Ask them.

The topic is on New Orleans Islamist attack. Stick to it. I am sure the mods will appreciate it too.

Best off jumping in the hole you've dug up.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Answer for what?

The topic is on the New Orleans attack and you want me to answer what Israel or US or France does?

Wow nice you finally realized what is this thread about, so tell us where does Islam came in...this thread also deals with Las Vegas attack but you haven't spoken about the religion of victim there. Simple question why??

 

[Kriketer]

Yeah..this guy is not a Muslim and no affiliation with religion


Bomb-Making Materials And Open Quran: What FBI Found In New Orleans Attacker Shamsud-Din Jabbar's Home

A Quran open to violence
The video posted by the New York Post showed a workbench in Jabbar’s bedroom set up for assembling explosives. Nearby, his Quran stood prominently atop a bookshelf, opened to Verse 9:111, which reads: “They fight in Allah’s cause, and slay and are slain; a promise binding…” The verse, widely interpreted as a call to violence by extremist ideologies, cast a haunting shadow over his already sinister acts.

New York Post reported that in the trailer home bomb-making materials, a Quran open to a passage glorifying violence and a workbench set up for assembling explosives were found.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1874972142905016333

ISIS flag in the car and Quran left open with verse calling for violence? Hahaha one can only laugh at these Zionist media stooges. As funny as finding Muslim named passports in the rubble of 9/11. This Zionist media news can't fool the world no more, their image has been absolutely thrashed as world has witnessed the genocide and their occupation has become widely known around the globe so they would do anything to play victim but tides have changed for good hence the reason why that Nazi Israeli leader is wanted by the world and Israelis are being hated by the world. Only old hag islamophobes and Hindudva radicals who bow down to their gora Lords (same goras who ruled and phantufy their ancestral generations for generations) fall for such comical nonsense to cater to their islamophobia

 

[JaDed]

@Champ_Pal anything else. I guess your argument had died umpteen times now.

Why do you keep forcing this view on Hindus then bro?

ISIS flag in the car and Quran left open with verse calling for violence? Hahaha one can only laugh at these Zionist media stooges. As funny as finding Muslim named passports in the rubble of 9/11. This Zionist media news can't fool the world no more, their image has been absolutely thrashed as world has witnessed the genocide and their occupation has become widely known around the globe so they would do anything to play victim but tides have changed for good hence the reason why that Nazi Israeli leader is wanted by the world and Israelis are being hated by the world. Only old hag islamophobes and Hindudva radicals who bow down to their gora Lords (same goras who ruled and phantufy their ancestral generations for generations) fall for such comical nonsense to cater to their islamophobia

They only have to fool west and no one else because since last week all Indian hatred by same people was being blown up and swallowed by posters here with fake sympathy.

And Before you go on, Note: Religion has nothing to do as his motive here, I have already highlighted the logical motives according to me.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Briton among dead in New Orleans vehicle attack

British national was among at least 14 people killed in the vehicle attack in New Orleans on New Year's Day, the Foreign Office has confirmed.

He was named by the Metropolitan Police as Edward Pettifer, 31, of Chelsea, London.

His family paid tribute to a "wonderful son, brother, grandson, nephew and friend to so many".

During the attack, a man in a pick-up truck ploughed through crowds on the city's Bourbon Street before being killed by police.

The New Orleans coroner gave Mr Pettifer's preliminary cause of death as "blunt force injuries", PA reports.

Mr Pettifer's family said: "The entire family are devastated at the tragic news of Ed's death in New Orleans. He was a wonderful son, brother, grandson, nephew and a friend to so many.

"We will all miss him terribly. Our thoughts are with the other families who have lost their family members due to this terrible attack. We request that we can grieve the loss of Ed as a family in private. Thank you."

In a statement, the Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office said it was supporting the family.

A well-known American college football player, a young aspiring nurse and a mother of a four-year-old are also among the victims.

Their names were released by families and relatives before the authorities in the US completed post-mortem examinations.

The attack is believed to have been carried out by a 42-year-old Texas resident and US Army veteran.

After driving the truck through the crowds the suspect is said to have got out and fired a weapon before being shot dead by police.

The FBI says an Islamic State group flag was found inside the vehicle.

Two improvised explosive devices were also found nearby, according to police.

The suspect, named as Shamsud-Din Jabbar, is believed to have acted alone in a "premeditated and evil act", the FBI has said.

At least 39 other people were injured during the attack, which took place in the city's French Quarter - a bustling nightspot popular with locals and tourists - at around 03:15 (09:15 GMT) on Wednesday.

Some of the injured have been discharged from hospital but more than a dozen remain, with some being treated in the ICU.

Bourbon Street was opened to the public on Thursday morning ahead of the Sugar Bowl, a much-anticipated college American football match between Notre Dame and the University of Georgia, that draws thousands of attendees.

BBC

 

[BouncerGuy]

Suspect in Cybertruck blast suffered from PTSD

The man identified inside the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas on Wednesday morning had no animosity toward President-elect Donald Trump and likely suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, according to the FBI.

Matthew Livelsberger, an active-duty US army member from Colorado who was found deceased inside the vehicle, also grappled with other family issues or personal grievances, FBI officials said.

Officials also emphasised the deadly truck attack in New Orleans that left 14 dead earlier on New Year's Day was unrelated to the explosion in Las Vegas.

Police said the Las Vegas blast appeared to be a "tragic case of suicide".

"There is no evidence that these two events are connected," Las Vegas FBI agent Spencer Evans told reporters on Friday as officials laid out new information on the incident.

"Investigative steps have discovered, and information of the Army indicates, that he likely suffered from PTSD, and we're also aware that there were potential other family issues or personal grievances in his own life that may have been contributing factors," Mr Evans said.

Data uncovered from Mr Livelsberger's phone, including a series of notes he appeared to have written, suggest that the 37-year-old suffered from PTSD related to his time in combat, officials said.

His body was found inside the charred Tesla, which exploded from fireworks that Mr Livelsberger had purchased on his way to Las Vegas from Colorado.

Mr Livelsberger's identity had been confirmed via a DNA sample that authorities obtained from a family member.

Police said he also appeared to have suffered a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

In the digital notes recovered by police, Livelsberger also mentioned political grievances, calling on his fellow Army officers to criticise military leadership.

In another note, police said he specifically wrote that the incident was "not a terrorist attack" but a "wake-up call".

Mr Livelsberger was a decorated Special Forces intelligence sergeant who was serving in Germany, but was on approved leave at the time of the blast.

His father told BBC's US partner CBS News that his son was in Colorado to see his wife and eight-month-old daughter.

He said he last spoke to his son at Christmas and nothing seemed out of the ordinary.

Mr Livelsberger's ex-girlfriend told the Washington Post that he had once told her he suffered a traumatic brain injury during his overseas deployment. Alicia Arritt, a 39-year-old nurse who dated Mr Livelsberger on and off from 2018 to 2021, said he admitted to struggling with memory, concentration and intense guilt over his actions on the battlefield.

The Daily Beast reported that Mr Livelsberger was a big supporter of Trump. A senior law enforcement official who spoke with Mr Livelsberger's family told the outlet that he voted for Trump in November's election.

Police had been able to track his movements in the days leading up to the incident thanks to surveillance cameras and other data obtained from the Tesla vehicle itself.

They said that Mr Livelsberger had rented the Tesla Cybertruck from a mobile application called Turo in Colorado on 28 December, and had driven it more than 800 miles to Las Vegas. He also legally purchased two firearms during that period, which were recovered inside the car.

Sheriff Kevin McMahill with the Las Vegas Police Department said authorities have not determined why Mr Livelsberger chose the site outside the Trump Hotel for the scene of the explosion, but added that evidence suggests it was one of multiple locations he had considered.

Seven people suffered minor injuries from the blast. All have since been released from hospital, Sheriff McMahill said.

He added that the investigation remains ongoing, and that police "are barely scratching the surface" of data they have recovered from the man's devices.

BBC

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Suspect in Cybertruck blast suffered from PTSD

The man identified inside the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas on Wednesday morning had no animosity toward President-elect Donald Trump and likely suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, according to the FBI.

Matthew Livelsberger, an active-duty US army member from Colorado who was found deceased inside the vehicle, also grappled with other family issues or personal grievances, FBI officials said.

Officials also emphasised the deadly truck attack in New Orleans that left 14 dead earlier on New Year's Day was unrelated to the explosion in Las Vegas.

Police said the Las Vegas blast appeared to be a "tragic case of suicide".

"There is no evidence that these two events are connected," Las Vegas FBI agent Spencer Evans told reporters on Friday as officials laid out new information on the incident.

"Investigative steps have discovered, and information of the Army indicates, that he likely suffered from PTSD, and we're also aware that there were potential other family issues or personal grievances in his own life that may have been contributing factors," Mr Evans said.

Data uncovered from Mr Livelsberger's phone, including a series of notes he appeared to have written, suggest that the 37-year-old suffered from PTSD related to his time in combat, officials said.

His body was found inside the charred Tesla, which exploded from fireworks that Mr Livelsberger had purchased on his way to Las Vegas from Colorado.

Mr Livelsberger's identity had been confirmed via a DNA sample that authorities obtained from a family member.

Police said he also appeared to have suffered a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

In the digital notes recovered by police, Livelsberger also mentioned political grievances, calling on his fellow Army officers to criticise military leadership.

In another note, police said he specifically wrote that the incident was "not a terrorist attack" but a "wake-up call".

Mr Livelsberger was a decorated Special Forces intelligence sergeant who was serving in Germany, but was on approved leave at the time of the blast.

His father told BBC's US partner CBS News that his son was in Colorado to see his wife and eight-month-old daughter.

He said he last spoke to his son at Christmas and nothing seemed out of the ordinary.

Mr Livelsberger's ex-girlfriend told the Washington Post that he had once told her he suffered a traumatic brain injury during his overseas deployment. Alicia Arritt, a 39-year-old nurse who dated Mr Livelsberger on and off from 2018 to 2021, said he admitted to struggling with memory, concentration and intense guilt over his actions on the battlefield.

The Daily Beast reported that Mr Livelsberger was a big supporter of Trump. A senior law enforcement official who spoke with Mr Livelsberger's family told the outlet that he voted for Trump in November's election.

Police had been able to track his movements in the days leading up to the incident thanks to surveillance cameras and other data obtained from the Tesla vehicle itself.

They said that Mr Livelsberger had rented the Tesla Cybertruck from a mobile application called Turo in Colorado on 28 December, and had driven it more than 800 miles to Las Vegas. He also legally purchased two firearms during that period, which were recovered inside the car.

Sheriff Kevin McMahill with the Las Vegas Police Department said authorities have not determined why Mr Livelsberger chose the site outside the Trump Hotel for the scene of the explosion, but added that evidence suggests it was one of multiple locations he had considered.

Seven people suffered minor injuries from the blast. All have since been released from hospital, Sheriff McMahill said.

He added that the investigation remains ongoing, and that police "are barely scratching the surface" of data they have recovered from the man's devices.

BBC

I knew it. Fake - BI would come out with ready made excuses gor this guy.

 

[JaDed]

He got PTSD from being in IT HR for the Army.

Edit: Ah the other one..

 

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It is you indulging in name calling and personal insults not me. I am happy to argue the topic on it's merits.

what I said is a factually correct statement since you are proudly standing up and supporting some of the worst to ever exist from Bin Qasim to Tippy you ARE exactly what I said you are. But I am also very well aware that your moral compass is wired backwards so wont surprise me if you dig your heels in and doggedly claim the opposite is true. So go ahead you can do it.
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[Cpt. Rishwat]

what I said is a factually correct statement since you are proudly standing up and supporting some of the worst to ever exist from Bin Qasim to Tippy you ARE exactly what I said you are. But I am also very well aware that your moral compass is wired backwards so wont surprise me if you dig your heels in and doggedly claim the opposite is true. So go ahead you can do it.
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Please provide a quote to back up your claims of this support otherwise kindly shut up and stop spamming the forums with your unconstructive lies and rage fuelled personal attacks.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They know very well to not mess with Israel. The response will be brutal.

I don't think you realise it, but this in itself suggests that ISIS is not what it purports to be. If they were concerned about a brutal response they wouldn't take on anyone as they don't have any military prowess. The only organised attacks which are attributed to ISIS are against Muslims which suits israel just fine.

 

[I think therfore I am]

Learn from your history. What was his theological believes

Godse killed Gandhi for his biased politics favoring Muslims. Political murder.

You are going back 80 years to quote an example shows your desperation.

 

[I think therfore I am]

Go back to sleep

 

[I think therfore I am]

In the past most were dirt bags. No question about it. They used religion to motivate their blood thirsty armies to justify their murders and conquests. Spanish inquisition was brutal. So were Islamic conquests. They did not spread from India to Spain by spreading the message of peace. Islam pretty much colonized half of the known world at one point.

Lets talk about the present day. No one cares who is killing who in the name of religion in their native countries. If a Hindu kills a Muslim for beef or a Muslim kills hindu or Christian in Pak or BD or Africa. The issue comes when the immigrants or converts carry out mass killings in foreign nations. In this case the Western nations. They are not going to go easy on such incidents like its just another day.

Agreed. Do you know how many immigrants have carried attacks on the UK? Also 90,% of the UK is white excluding white EU migrants.

Playing devil's advocate if the UK hadn't got involved in failed foreign policy agendas led by the US,these issues would be miniscule. You reap what you sow

 

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Please provide a quote to back up your claims of this support otherwise kindly shut up and stop spamming the forums with your unconstructive lies and rage fuelled personal attacks.

You mean ... I now need to prove that Bin Qasim to Tippu were actually vermin ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You mean ... I now need to prove that Bin Qasim to Tippu were actually vermin ?

Yes you do.

 

[uppercut]

Yes you do.

What will you accept as evidence considering your previous track record to dismiss everything that shows Muslims doing horrible things as "Hindutva Propaganda" ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What will you accept as evidence considering your previous track record to dismiss everything that shows Muslims doing horrible things as "Hindutva Propaganda" ?

You can provide evidence from non-hindutva sources. Or is that beyond you?

 

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You can provide evidence from non-hindutva sources. Or is that beyond you?

can you show me when I used Hindutva sources ?

 

[JaDed]

I think we need to come out of the loops of discussion.

 

[Hitman]

It's funny Pakistanis and Bangladeshis talk about Hindus and Hindutva after the world has gotten used to such terrorism and their perpetrators. Such incidents don't even surprise the world anymore. The only question that is asked immediately after such a terrorist act is whether the perpetrator is a. ......​