Egypt also blockades Gaza, where is the outrage?

[Shah]

We all know that Israel strictly controls the inflow and outflow of people and goods into and from Gaza. What many people do not know is that Egypt has a 12 kilometres long border with Gaza. The Rafah Border Crossing is the only crossing point and only people can use it, no goods can be taken into Gaza from Egypt. The crossing is strictly regulated, sometimes the border crossing has been reduced to only 50 people per day and often closed altogether.

Per wikipedia:
"In December 2009, with help from the United States, Egypt started building a steel wall along the Gaza border. If it is finished, the wall will be 10–11 km (6–7 miles) long and extend 18 metres (60 feet) below the surface."
"In February 2020, Egypt began building a new 3 kilometre (2 mile) concrete wall along its border with the Gaza Strip, from Gaza’s southeastern tip at Kerem Shalom (Karam Abu Salem) to the Rafah border crossing."

It does not appear that Egypt cares about the suffering in Gaza nor do other Arab nations. In fact, it appears that the only countries who do care are non-Arab, Turkey & Pakistan.

 

[sindhiboy]

Also destroys the zionist myth that every Arab country is after Israel.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Their is a very good reason that Egypt blocks the Gaza Strip. Israel wants to separate Gaza from the rest of Palestine by making it dependent on Egypt. Ideally they would want Gaza to merge with Egypt or expand into the Sinai.

The reason for this is that Gaza has a population of 2 million Palestinians, and when combined with the Palestinian population in the West Bank and in Israel makes the Palestinian and Jewish population almost equal. Without Gaza Israel could still annex the West Bank and retain a Jewish majority.

 

[saeedhk]

Muslims killing Muslims is tolerable such as the case in Yemen where Saudis are slaughtering hapless Yemenis which has resulted in the greatest humanitarian disaster the world has ever witnessed. There is outrage only when non-Muslims slaughter Muslims.

 

[Giannis]

Maybe reading about geopolitics would answer your question. Egypt is one of the most despised Muslim country's in the Muslim world and rightfully so, they're pretty much a failed state run by an autocratic military dictatorship, everyone knows what they did to the only democratically government in their history, their army is inept and corrupt, why is it surprising that they've blockaded Gaza when they're one of the few Muslim Arab countries to even recognize Israel? And they had recognize Israel after their humiliating defeat in the 6 day war (to get back the sinai) and you know how the Egyptian people reacted to Saadat's decision, so acting like Egypt is some well respected universally loved country by Muslims around the world is quite disingenuous and out of touch.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Maybe reading about geopolitics would answer your question. Egypt is one of the most despised Muslim country's in the Muslim world and rightfully so, they're pretty much a failed state run by an autocratic military dictatorship, everyone knows what they did to the only democratically government in their history, their army is inept and corrupt, why is it surprising that they've blockaded Gaza when they're one of the few Muslim Arab countries to even recognize Israel? And they had recognize Israel after their humiliating defeat in the 6 day war (to get back the sinai) and you know how the Egyptian people reacted to Saadat's decision, so acting like Egypt is some well respected universally loved country by Muslims around the world is quite disingenuous and out of touch.

Which are the respected loved Muslim countries?

 

[Giannis]

Which are the respected loved Muslim countries?

Definitely not Egypt

 

[El Generico]

Muslims killing Muslims is tolerable such as the case in Yemen where Saudis are slaughtering hapless Yemenis which has resulted in the greatest humanitarian disaster the world has ever witnessed. There is outrage only when non-Muslims slaughter Muslims.

That’s not true at all. Plenty of people including Muslims were outraged by what’s happening in Yemen and many Islamic organizations also did online fundraisers for the victims. At this point your post just come across as propaganda tbh.

 

[saeedhk]

That’s not true at all. Plenty of people including Muslims were outraged by what’s happening in Yemen and many Islamic organizations also did online fundraisers for the victims. At this point your post just come across as propaganda tbh.

We did not see thousands take to the streets in Pakistan and elsewhere. No round-the-clock coverage like Palestine.No changing of DPs on social media et al.

 

[Varun]

The British actually expended some effort to enforce the 'Divide & Rule' policy in the sub-continent and other places. It took them some generations to do so.

In the case of the Muslim countries vs Israel, they've done it to themselves with no Israeli efforts needed. And this actually happened back in the 1980s when Egypt and Jordan decided to throw the Palestinians under the Israeli bus, and shake hands with the Jews.

 

[Varun]

That’s not true at all. Plenty of people including Muslims were outraged by what’s happening in Yemen and many Islamic organizations also did online fundraisers for the victims. At this point your post just come across as propaganda tbh.

"Plenty of Muslims" also consume pork and drink alcohol, so that's not a defense. The point was quite straightforward - the voices of protest are far more shrill in case of Palestine than it is for Yemen or Syria or Xinjiang or elsewhere.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Definitely not Egypt

According to whom? They have a higher gdp, per capita, Gini, HDI than pakistan or BD. They have been peaceful for a while and tourism was booming before covid.

So according to you what else is needed to have respect?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

According to whom? They have a higher gdp, per capita, Gini, HDI than pakistan or BD. They have been peaceful for a while and tourism was booming before covid.

So according to you what else is needed to have respect?

Democracy.

 

[El Generico]

"Plenty of Muslims" also consume pork and drink alcohol, so that's not a defense. The point was quite straightforward - the voices of protest are far more shrill in case of Palestine than it is for Yemen or Syria or Xinjiang or elsewhere.

Palestine gets more attention as that issue has history, political impact and also the third holiest site in Islam is there, so there is a stronger reaction from Muslims. The political relevance of Palestine also results in more global media coverage which means more awareness hence more protests. It’s not rocket science is it? Anyways that doesn’t mean the other issues are neglected,

There have been several large protest around the world for Uyghur Muslims as well as for Syria and Yemen. Maybe India doesn’t allow those protest so you have not seen them. Try watching some non-Indian news channel if they are available, you will get a better idea of what’s actually going on.

 

[LongHorn]

Their is a very good reason that Egypt blocks the Gaza Strip. Israel wants to separate Gaza from the rest of Palestine by making it dependent on Egypt. Ideally they would want Gaza to merge with Egypt or expand into the Sinai.

y.

An absolutely absurd reason.....

There are Palestinians with refugee status for decades in Lebanon, same reason is used by lebanon for keeping them refugees
(If we give them more rights, they wont go back and Israel will win)

Egypt's current govt hates any group openly Islamic. Morsi wanted to help but he was toppled

 

[LongHorn]

That’s not true at all. Plenty of people including Muslims were outraged by what’s happening in Yemen and many Islamic organizations also did online fundraisers for the victims. At this point your post just come across as propaganda tbh.

You are right.

But if you delve deeper you will find many disturbing things

For e.g. there is an increasing number of Bangladeshis who are virulently pro-MBS and pro-Sisi and anti-Iran/Erdogan

They actually cheer when Yemen is bombed because they say it is "Rafidis" being killed

They also cheer when Israel attacks Gaza, because Hamas is outside Islam for taking help from Iran

In the 90s you couldnt find any Bangladeshi with such an attitude, but you have quite a few now, (no doubt funded from certain quarters)


Just last week I saw a popular Bengali thinker post on FB about how Sisi is a great Muslim King

 

[cricketjoshila]

Democracy.

How many of the 50 plus muslim nations have democracy?

 

[topspin]

That’s not true at all. Plenty of people including Muslims were outraged by what’s happening in Yemen and many Islamic organizations also did online fundraisers for the victims. At this point your post just come across as propaganda tbh.

How many Muslims went out protesting against the Saudis in comparison to the ones we’ve seen against Israel?

 

[Last Monetarist]

There is outrage only when non-Muslims slaughter Muslims.

It has to be the right kind of muslims being slaughtered as well, some don't count.

 

[PetroDollars]

Egypt always defended Palastines and attacked Israel, its only in recent years its scaled back, that is what happens when you are poor economicly,
Israel bosses the show in the ME, because its economically advanced compared to the rest, they have top notch defence engineering, which means other countries want a piece of it and it means Israel gets to rule over them diplomatically. What has happened to Egypt and other muslim countries.

Untill you dont grow economically - you have no diplomatic power.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How many of the 50 plus muslim nations have democracy?

You were asking about respect in western terms, e.g. GDP, tourism etc. Egypt has tourism, not sure about GDP, but the west, and presumably you, are quite big on democracy, and Egypt fails big time there. The military regime - which again I know you are a big critic of military regimes - overthrew a democratic govt. What standards are you judging by?

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

You were asking about respect in western terms, e.g. GDP, tourism etc. Egypt has tourism, not sure about GDP, but the west, and presumably you, are quite big on democracy, and Egypt fails big time there. The military regime - which again I know you are a big critic of military regimes - overthrew a democratic govt. What standards are you judging by?

Egypt has the highest tourism and GDP in Africa and one of the highest among the Muslim countries. As for democracy, not a lot of Muslim or African countries unfortunately have it

 

[DeadlyVenom]

According to whom? They have a higher gdp, per capita, Gini, HDI than pakistan or BD. They have been peaceful for a while and tourism was booming before covid.

So according to you what else is needed to have respect?

Sounds like Indian Hindus have a great respect for Egypt?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Egypt is a dictatorship, the question itself is absurd.

Egyptian dictators have ties to Israel which is why the Zionists are regularly in Cairo and Israeli tourists flood their holiday resorts.

 

[LongHorn]

Egypt has the highest tourism and GDP in Africa and one of the highest among the Muslim countries. As for democracy, not a lot of Muslim or African countries unfortunately have it

One of highest in Muslim world? You mean total GDP? If so not a big deal as they are the 5th most populous Muslim nation. No way are they high in GDP Per capita

 

[LongHorn]

Some notes about Arab world wrt Gaza

1) Saudi Arabia-A lot of Saudi Arabians, particularly the younger, pro-MBS brigade hate Gaza and Hamas. They stop just short of praising Israel, but they always malign Gaza for taking help from iran previously. Of course they expect them to disarm, and be sitting ducks for Israel.

Older Saudis dont think this way in most cases.

However one of the most trending twitter threads in Saudia recently was "Falasteen laisat qadiyyati", "Palestine is not my cause"

2)Egypt - Very clearcut divide between pro-Sisi people who hate Hamas and call them terrorists, and the MB Islamists who support Gaza. If Morsi stayed on he would have helped Gaza much more than what Sisi did

3) West Bank PA - Officially they dont issue statements of support for Hamas that much, however internally they do look on as to how well armed they are compared to the relatively disarmed WB

 

[cricketjoshila]

You were asking about respect in western terms, e.g. GDP, tourism etc. Egypt has tourism, not sure about GDP, but the west, and presumably you, are quite big on democracy, and Egypt fails big time there. The military regime - which again I know you are a big critic of military regimes - overthrew a democratic govt. What standards are you judging by?

There are not many muslim countries with democracy. But Egypt does well on other criterias.

 

[Itachi]

so.... Muslims are becoming enemies of themselves?

 

[Zaz]

Sisi is a puppet dictator of the west What do you expect? Hes been paid billions to keep the status quo

Israels allies engineered to overthrow morsi so sisi does their bidding as morsi and the mb certainly wasnt going to do it

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There are not many muslim countries with democracy. But Egypt does well on other criterias.

The problem with dictatorships is that at any time, the leaders can be bought off at the expense of their own people. I used to use this example for the case against military rule in Pakistan. So regardless of the short term good results you might see, there might easily come a time when a leader would conspire with say the Russians or Chinese to bomb their own territories if enough cash can be transferred into their offshore accounts.