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Eng v Pak: 2nd Test: Day 3 (Update Thread)

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the reason we lost is because England played better than us, it was bound to happen sometimes(we have gone 10 Tests without losing)
 
zaf1986 said:
The real reason we're going to lose here, and Big Mac will agree with me, is because we have no Rana to bail us out with his maiden double hundred. :(


So true :11:

Need some people to man up and value their wicket more dearly like Popeye has done. Even Umar Gul took some bruises for the team.
 
sharuk said:
1) Akmal as opener

2) dropping butt

3) no use of afridi as bowler

4) persisting with sami

5) defensive attitude


Only thing there is Akmal as opener.

No Salman made no difference, had to play Sami because there's nobody else. Afridi bowled 21 overs, that's more than Razzaq so your 3rd complaint is rubbish. As for the defensive attitude, how do you expect them to be attacking after being bowled out for 119 on the first day?
 
I reckon the biggest mistake was deciding to bat first on a pitch that was bowler friendly.
 
sharuk said:
razzaq has been useless this whole test series. drop him for arafat


haha yeah, damn him for coming out in this second innings and gritting it out against Harmison.

Popeye stays and some of the batsmen could do with taking a look at what he's done today.
 
Big Mac said:
Only thing there is Akmal as opener.

No Salman made no difference, had to play Sami because there's nobody else. Afridi bowled 21 overs, that's more than Razzaq so your 3rd complaint is rubbish. As for the defensive attitude, how do you expect them to be attacking after being bowled out for 119 on the first day?


salman would have if they persisted with him unlike Akmal who couldnt even touch the ball with gloves or bat

sami can be easily replaced by arafat who bowls at the same speeds, is more attacking and gets runs

you have to be attacking if you get bowled out for a low score.
 
Big Mac said:
haha yeah, damn him for coming out in this second innings and gritting it out against Harmison.

Popeye stays and some of the batsmen could do with taking a look at what he's done today.

gritting out? his strike rate is 8. thats not batting.
 
So what about strike rate? Thats exactly what it means to grit it out. This isn't an ODI, we aren't chasing 320 to win.
 
sharuk said:
gritting out? his strike rate is 8. thats not batting.

ahahahahahahahahahhaa, yeah he should have come out like Afridi and hit a couple of big shots for the cameras and then gave his wicket away
 
All overrr Harmi gets a 6for.. Doesnt matter I think if Shoib back for next test it should make things interesting and Pak always know how to come back when they are down, onto the next test...
 
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Uzzy said:
TBH, Razzaq was s******* himself against Harmison.


Yeah and he lasted longer than most of the others even with a big brown stain in his pants. Counts for more than a couple of sixes in a worthless cameo.
 
Romali_rotti said:
All overrr Harmi gets a 6for.. Doesnt matter I think if Shoib back for next test it should make things interesting and Pak always know how to come back when they are down, onto the nest test...
Congrats on 1000 posts RR :D

I hope Shoaib is back, as Headingley is always good for the bowlers, and if Pakistan win the toss there, they should definitely bowl first...
 
disappointment ofcourse as we could not finish off an innings defeat. perhaps that is the right kick in the ass needed for the team.
 
Big Mac said:
Yeah and he lasted longer than most of the others even with a big brown stain in his pants. Counts for more than a couple of sixes in a worthless cameo.

I'd take a cameo with a couple of sixes than someone with s*** in their pants and gutless to fight back.
 
zaf1986 said:
Congrats on 1000 posts RR :D

I hope Shoaib is back, as Headingley is always good for the bowlers, and if Pakistan win the toss there, they should definitely bowl first...

Ohh Thanks Zaf, I forgot it was my 1000 posts :D .. Yeah most def if Pak wins the toss and if Shoiby plays def bowl first and please dont drop Salman for that test.....
 
Uzzy said:
I'd take a cameo with a couple of sixes than someone with s*** in their pants and gutless to fight back.



ahahahahha yeah, he stayed there while nobody else gave him ANY support. Don't even think of telling me Afridi showed more guts than he did.

Razzaq showed guts going out there and batting stubbornly for that amount of time with no support after being roughed up by Harmison. If you want gutless then look at Sami or even the mighty Afridi hitting a couple of boundaries off the spinners then gifting his wicket to Harmison immediately.

Of that lower order only Razzaq showed any fight.
 
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Big Mac said:
ahahahahha yeah, he stayed there while nobody else gave him ANY support. Don't even think of telling me Afridi showed more guts than he did.

Razzaq showed guts going out there and batting stubbornly for that amount of time with no support after being roughed up by Harmison. If you want gutless then look at Sami or even the mighty Afridi hitting a couple of boundaries off the spinners then gifting his wicket to Harmison immediately.

Of that lower order only Razzaq showed any fight.

I'd agree.

Razzaq may not have shown the technique to cope with the short stuff but he certainly showed more guts than the likes of Afridi and Sami.

More brains as well if we're truthful.
 
Big Mac said:
ahahahahha yeah, he stayed there while nobody else gave him ANY support. Don't even think of telling me Afridi showed more guts than he did.

Razzaq showed guts going out there and batting stubbornly for that amount of time with no support after being roughed up by Harmison. If you want gutless then look at Sami or even the mighty Afridi hitting a couple of boundaries off the spinners then gifting his wicket to Harmison immediately.

Of that lower order only Razzaq showed any fight.

The way you go on about it seems as though Razzaq played a marathon Hannifesqe innings. Why should Afridi play defensive when the next people to partner him are the tailenders. We knew we were going to lose, just go down swingning.

Razzaq unfortuantely played with a stain in his pants in both innings but then again most of the batsman did bar YK.
 
Uzzy said:
The way you go on about it seems as though Razzaq played a marathon Hannifesqe innings. Why should Afridi play defensive when the next people to partner him are the tailenders. We knew we were going to lose, just go down swingning.

Razzaq unfortuantely played with a stain in his pants in both innings but then again most of the batsman did bar YK.


Hmmmm, the way I remember it there was never any danger of Afridi batting with the tail because he lost his head the moment Harmison came on.

Razzaq was clearly scared in the first innings but still came out in the second innings and showed a lot more courage than most of the team. Farhat deserves a lot of credit too.
 
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