Sherazkhalid
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This is a 160-165 team, on a good day 175 tops, don't see them going anywhere with Shahdab for sure.
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Batting is very poor, too many passengers and Babar taking no responsibility to fix it.This is a 160-165 team, on a good day 175 tops, don't see them going anywhere with Shahdab for sure.
This post aged well….How come Jordon keep selected in England, this guy is one of the worst bowlers ,run machine ,who makes Rauf, dinda, thakur like good bowlers.
feasting on tail though.Junk bowler getting wickets
Clear cut is shahdab, had we given 40 instead of 55 in those 4 overs we had a game on hand. He is hurting us twiceHow many passengers you going to replace? Shadab, Ifti, Azam and Saim?
Ya I agree with you now.All over. @mominsaigol I told you PAK had to bat first to have a chance. This is just not a chasing ground.
True.Any other team would have chased this quite comfortably. Pakistan gave away too many soft wickets. Happens when half of your team wouldn’t make it to 2nd XI of any decent side
He gave more of a show than Rizwan, Shadab and Azam tbf.Fans have been short changed having to pay to watch Ifti.
What's Chacha done to stay in the team?Drop Amir, Shadab, Azam Khan for sure.
Why Amir?Drop Amir, Shadab, Azam Khan for sure.
I don't want a show...I want a match winner like the days of old...Razzaq, Afridi and Azhar Mahmood...this clown is not even a poor man's Mo Hafeez of Shoaib Malik!He gave more of a show than Rizwan, Shadab and Azam tbf.
Those sixes were the most the fans celebrated all night.
We need to to pick from what's available.I don't want a show...I want a match winner like the days of old...Razzaq, Afridi and Azhar Mahmood...this clown is not even a poor man's Mo Hafeez of Shoaib Malik!
I already gave you what's available.We need to to pick from what's available.
We don't have Razzaq etc anymore
Amir sooner or later will be shown the door, he's been away from international for way too much time and cracks will start to show up sooner or later.Score
Why Amir?
Chacha is better in the lower order than all the alternatives that have been named.I already gave you what's available.
Theirs an entire domestic set up, and an entire acc emerging cup set up and many many more talented players who are missing just to support the kakul camp of which the b string is hasebullah?
I rather go with someone young and fit than someone who is the same age as Razzaq right now!We need to to pick from what's available.
We don't have Razzaq etc anymore
Please god let it rain on the 4th t20.Chacha is better in the lower order than all the alternatives that have been named.
That's the reality.
Rona band karo, And take back your shadab is our best allrounder, Babar Sher and babar world class arguments you've made and all this stop pretending to be an expert.
I don't like constantly going game by game and reminding you kei kya sach hai aur kya ghalat hai
I got my best case scenario the last time you went on your PAKISTAN HAR GYA course.Chalo you got your best case scenario today. Your favourites performed somewhat and Pakistan still lost. Abb shabash cake kato
Spot onBabar Azam needs to improve his strike rate and also needs to improve his post match interviews. We have been listening to such things for some time now.
"I think our bowlers bowled very well. Our batting had moments but we were not close to finishing well. If someone scored 40 or 50 then I think we'd have definitely have won this game.
"Mostly we are flexible and everyone knows their role. Before the series we decided to go with these roles, so we're clear. The way Fakhar dominated after the early wickets fell. I think if me and Fakhar had batted for four or five more overs, then we could have won."
If they had batted first that record would have changed That is their achilles heel. Would have ended up putting a below par total.Even after knowing chasing team have 0 success rate in this ground, Babar Azam elected to bowling 1st.
Butler was also going to do the same.Even after knowing chasing team have 0 success rate in this ground, Babar Azam elected to bowling 1st.
Without Fakhar, we would be struggling to score even 160. That's a great concern.Looking at tscore card
21 balls 45 runs Fakhar
others
95 balls 110 runs @115 SR
What moments? All I saw was fakhar.Pakistan captain Babar Azam in post match presentation expressed his thoughts in following manner:
"We had our moments with the bat"
"I think our bowlers bowled very well and in the batting we had our moments, but we aren't close to finished.
"We had a small partnership, me and Fakhar. If someone had kicked on to a fifty, if we'd have batted two or three more overs, it might have been a different ball game."
And imad, he struck at 190Without Fakhar, we would be struggling to score even 160. That's a great concern.
But you can't expect him to do this in every game.And imad, he struck at 190
I got my best case scenario the last time you went on your PAKISTAN HAR GYA course.
Either way it'll always be win win for me because
A) Pakistan will win against minnows amd that's where ba/riz may perform but again its a hollow victory and frankly just embrassing for you to flaunt it, just like the whole Ireland thing was embrassing to boast about for 2-1.
B) If Pakistan does beat bigger teams fakhar and imad will be at the helm, this has been the case since 2017( previously shaheen as well when he was inform)
Excluding the 2019 NZ game, when it cones to cups and series against A string sided, Either fakhar bats through + Shaheen and inad perform or Pakistan fails as babar sher, Rizzu bradman, And shadab our greatest allrounder won't do a damn thing.
As I said each game is a best case scenario because against top sides, Babar, Shadab, Chacha and rizzu will not and cannot ever perform and win. Its either fakhar, imad and shaheen with the others contributing a bit, or nothing.
Hopefully you don't make claims such as our bowling is at fault and not our batting or Misbah saved multiple careers and ba/riz was our best combo etc etc again.
Yeah just like your shadab is our best allrounder excuse, this argument will end in tears.No that's where you are wrong as it just goes to show that when Babar or Rizwan have a poor game we tend to lose. The other match winners might win us 1/10 games
Pakistan may have won if it wasn't for shadab but don't let that fool you, if Pakistan won it would only be because of fakhar . Without him the side was all out of 90 of 110?Shadab cost pakistan the match.Equally Iftikhar has to take some of the blame shouldn't have played that shot after hitting a six.
Hes afraid that his and buddies cannot post a defendable target and neither he has any idea on what a suitable score is so he just lets the other team do their thing and hopes they score low.Even after knowing chasing team have 0 success rate in this ground, Babar Azam elected to bowling 1st.
Butler also said he was going to bowl just sayingHes afraid that his and buddies cannot post a defendable target and neither he has any idea on what a suitable score is so he just lets the other team do their thing and hopes they score low.
Butler has different reasons than Babar.Butler also said he was going to bowl just saying
Pakistan competed well throughout the match . A couple of improvements in selection & some good fortune will see them compete in the T20 World Cup. If you believe in the project & keep improving , you’ll win series & tournaments. @Mamoon . How many ICC tournaments will Pakistan win this decade ?
Not sure I am seeing the same picture. I thought England were there for the taking, they didn't really impress me that much. They still have an admirable aggressive attitude, but their batsmen don't really look convincing. I don't think they would have given India much trouble today. Aus, NZ and SA also look better.
Iftikhar seems to lack brain. Sorry to say but he does seem that kind of player. He's such a senior member now but still somehow he can't calculate risk.Shadab cost pakistan the match.Equally Iftikhar has to take some of the blame shouldn't have played that shot after hitting a six.
Yeah just like your shadab is our best allrounder excuse, this argument will end in tears.
In 2022 wc, Babar and rizwan didn't perform at all, only in the semi final aka 1 game out of many.
Yet Pakistan still got to the finals without them minus one game. For SA game, for Bangladesh game these guys were non factors. Heck even for India game had we won it wouldn't be because of them, but obviously Bobby had to introduce Nawaz lol over imad.
In 2023 wc, the NZ game was won single handidely by fakhar, the Sri lanka game was both Abdullah and rizwan, not just rizzu.
In 2017, Babar went unnoticed throughout the tournament, Hafeez, Fakhar were the mvp's.
The one time Pakistan won a tournament and the one time they reached a final, rhe team proved these 2 aren't needed to get you over the line but fakhar 100% is.
Again keep making make arguments, I'll keep shutting them down. Atm you're defeated, Take a breathe, Recorupriate and come back later. Not long until the next game and the next beating.
But same can be said with buttler.Pakistan may have won if it wasn't for shadab but don't let that fool you, if Pakistan won it would only be because of fakhar . Without him the side was all out of 90 of 110?
What agenda? I ask again.Yes go ahead shutdown arguments by nitpicking performances and leaving out the ones that don't suit your agenda. You included an ODI WC when were discussing t20s and left out the 2021 t20 WC. Your bias is on full display today. I think you should worry more about Australia than PCT.
I was responding to the above question. By no means do I think Pakistan was the better team. My response is catered towards exposing the reality of how poor the team is without fakhar which has been the case since 2017But same can be said with buttler.
100% clueless from an experienced campaigner.whilst shadab was the main issue why we didn't win but Iftikhar should be also at fault.Iftikhar seems to lack brain. Sorry to say but he does seem that kind of player. He's such a senior member now but still somehow he can't calculate risk.
Fakhar is the only genuine power hitter who can bat long and continue attacking.I was responding to the above question. By no means do I think Pakistan was the better team. My response is catered towards exposing the reality of how poor the team is without fakhar which has been the case since 2017
Fakhar is less of a power hitter and more of a player who loves getting big scores by batting long and deep and at a respectable sr.Fakhar is the only genuine power hitter who can bat long and continue attacking.
I disagree I think in the same mold as Head.Fakhar is less of a power hitter and more of a player who loves getting big scores by batting long and deep and at a respectable sr.
Today's power hitting and NZ 60 ball 100's are outliers. Don't get me wrong I'm not attacking him, infact he's the only player in the dugout along with abrar and imad wasim that I give a damn about,
But he's mostly akin to saeed anwar level players where they don't bash from ball one. You'll never see a butler 45 ball 100 from him but you will see a monster unbeatable score from fakhar especially in odi.
Similar players who have shared this trait are pointing, Kumar samgakara and many others. But he's not really a gilchrist or Travis head like player.
Fakhar never goes gun blazing from the start like head does.I disagree I think in the same mold as Head.
Bro you gotta stop this babar is world class because he top scored in 2021 wc. You even went so far as to ask me if babar sher isn't world class then what is.Yes go ahead shutdown arguments by nitpicking performances and leaving out the ones that don't suit your agenda. You included an ODI WC when were discussing t20s and left out the 2021 t20 WC.
At his age he's probably got dementia. Can't really blame him if his mental faculties are letting him down.Shadab cost pakistan the match.Equally Iftikhar has to take some of the blame shouldn't have played that shot after hitting a six.