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England National Cricket Selectors have named a 14-man squad for the fourth Specsavers Test match against India at Ageas Bowl starting on Thursday August 30.

Hampshire batsman James Vince has been added to the squad. The 27-year-old right-hander last played for England in Christchurch in April against New Zealand, has been in excellent form in the Specsavers County Championship. The Hampshire captain averages 56 in Division One this summer and made scores of 74 and 147 for his county in their win against Nottinghamshire at the Ageas Bowl this week.

England Test squad
Joe Root (Yorkshire) captain
Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
Jimmy Anderson (Lancashire)
Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Jos Buttler (Lancashire)
Alastair Cook (Essex)
Sam Curran (Surrey)
Keaton Jennings (Lancashire)
Ollie Pope (Surrey)
Adil Rashid (Yorkshire)
Ben Stokes (Durham)
James Vince (Hampshire)
Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)

Commenting on the selection of the squad, National Selector Ed Smith, said:

“The selection panel felt this was the right time to reintroduce James Vince to the Test squad. James will provide cover in case Jonny Bairstow’s fractured finger prevents him playing in the fourth Test match.

“James returns to the England set-up in confident form and scoring runs. He has been in excellent form for Hampshire in the Specsavers County Championship, with 847 runs at 56.46, including 74 and 147 this week - runs that shaped Hampshire’s win against Nottinghamshire. James' match-winning runs also helped Hampshire to win the Royal London One-Day Cup earlier this summer.

“Jamie Porter has been part of the last three Test squads. But the selection panel did not want him to miss the opportunity of playing for Essex in the next round of championship matches. He will return to the squad in the event of an injury to a seam bowler.”
 
Vince is a walking wicket...too many times he has bern exposed on tbe off stump line.
 
Cook
Jennings
Root +
Pope
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Curran
Broad
Anderson

- Give them(Cook and Jennings) all 5 matches before being dropped
- No spin of Rasheed is needed. If Bairstow is not fit, bring in Moeen and can utilize his spin
 
England recycling TTFs like the old Pakistan - James Vince, really ?
 
Reckon Vince will be okay against India.

They don't have someone who takes it away from the right handers. If India had Kumar, then yeah, I reckon he would get Vince to nick off, but otherwise, don't see the others troubling him too much.

Would be more concerned about retaining Jennings and Cook.
 
Reckon Vince will be okay against India.

They don't have someone who takes it away from the right handers. If India had Kumar, then yeah, I reckon he would get Vince to nick off, but otherwise, don't see the others troubling him too much.

Shami seams the ball away from right-handers.
Pandya bowled pure outswing in TB.
And even Bumrah can take it away from the right-hander, relative to his angle of delivery
 
Really surprised not to see Burns in that squad. Vince has been in good form for Hampshire and has played a few clutch innings for them, so he probably deserved a recall. The cupboard is bare as we well know.

Expect to see England 20/2 again though with Jennings and Cook still in situ. I understand that Smith took a gamble selecting Jennings so early and wants to give him the summer at least to vindicate his trust. However, Jennings has glaring technical issues which need to be fixed before he has any hope of succeeding at test cricket. He should take the winter off and work with his dad in South Africa to fix his technique.
 
Really surprised not to see Burns in that squad. Vince has been in good form for Hampshire and has played a few clutch innings for them, so he probably deserved a recall. The cupboard is bare as we well know.

Expect to see England 20/2 again though with Jennings and Cook still in situ. I understand that Smith took a gamble selecting Jennings so early and wants to give him the summer at least to vindicate his trust. However, Jennings has glaring technical issues which need to be fixed before he has any hope of succeeding at test cricket. He should take the winter off and work with his dad in South Africa to fix his technique.

The reason why Rory Bruns is not there simply because he is a left hander and england can not afford another left hander at the top of the order. Ishant + Ashwin will eat them alive
 
England should have selected Dom Bess over Rashid as the lone spinner. He is a very good spinner and also terrific lower order batsman and a very good fielder unlike Rashid.

Hope Curran does not play.
 
The reason why Rory Bruns is not there simply because he is a left hander and england can not afford another left hander at the top of the order. Ishant + Ashwin will eat them alive

As opposed to Cook and Jennings shifting their stances Rocky style and learning to bat right handed over the course of the next week to avoid being eaten alive by Ishant and Ashwin ?
 
As opposed to Cook and Jennings shifting their stances Rocky style and learning to bat right handed over the course of the next week to avoid being eaten alive by Ishant and Ashwin ?

Well the talk in England has been to not have many left handers in the team. Cook and Jennings will have to come good and be trusted with
 
Well the talk in England has been to not have many left handers in the team. Cook and Jennings will have to come good and be trusted with

I understand what you're trying to say, but at this point in time Burns is in good nick and is more probable to succeed against Ishant and Ashwin than two batsmen who have been walking wickets since the start of the summer.
 
I understand what you're trying to say, but at this point in time Burns is in good nick and is more probable to succeed against Ishant and Ashwin than two batsmen who have been walking wickets since the start of the summer.

I think they will stick with cook till ashes. For Jennings, if he fails again then hes out. Burns might still make it if Cook has to go for his kids birth
 
This is ridiculous lol. Jennings retained and Vince comes in. Still reckon Vince would be a better option than Jennings tbh.

Maybe England should just drop a batsman and bring Curran in

Cook
Root
Pope
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Curran
Rashid
Anderson
Broad
 
Vince picked, dropped, picked, dropped, picked again - there seems to be very little planning and consistency from the England selectors at the moment.
 
I think Vince is one good score away from kicking on for England.
 
I think Vince is one good score away from kicking on for England.

From whatever I have seen of Vince he has all the ingredients to make a top bat. The only thing missing is confidence, which as you say might well be one good knock away.
 
Surely Moeen Ali has to play in the next Test match.

He's in very good form and could present the Indian bowlers with an interesting challenge.
 
Will be interested to see how Vince does. He has been given a lot of chances so he needs to score in this series.
 
I think Vince is one good score away from kicking on for England.

I agree. He reminds me of early Ian Bell. Has the technique, but not the temperament.

They don't have someone who takes it away from the right handers. If India had Kumar, then yeah, I reckon he would get Vince to nick off, but otherwise, don't see the others troubling him too much.

Reports say Kumar is playing the next test. And the others can bowl outswingers as well.
 
I agree. He reminds me of early Ian Bell. Has the technique, but not the temperament.



Reports say Kumar is playing the next test. And the others can bowl outswingers as well.

Kumar is out of the series I'm afraid.
 
Agreed.

But now that Vince has been picked again,this should be his last chance..He could turn out to be another Graeme Hick or Mark Ramprakash.

Probably, hes another left hander? Did not know that it would be such a crime to be a left hander
 
Probably, hes another left hander? Did not know that it would be such a crime to be a left hander

Left hander or right hander has nothing to do with it.Vince cannot handle the pressure of international cricket even though he clearly has the ability.
 
I actually like Vince's fluent play style (however frustrating it can be especially when his discipline outside off-stump is tested i.e. previous Ashes), so I wouldn't mind seeing him in the XI. Otherwise, I predict:

Cook
Jennings
Root
Pope
Bairstow/Vince
Stokes
Butler
Woakes/Ali
Curran
Broad
Anderson

I feel Pope and Curran should be given full, proper chances to establish themselves. If the wicket turns then pick Ali, otherwise Woakes. Regarding the openers, I agree with Kohli, The King of Chase.
 
Does Ian Bell need to kill the Taliban to deserve a call? Stubborn selectors. Its like they don’t want to pick him to prove a point. I hope England loose the last two tests, really hate this!
 
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Does Ian Bell need to kill the Taliban to deserve a call? Stubborn selectors. Its like they don’t want to pick him to prove a point. I hope England loose the last two tests, really hate this!

He's struggled in division 1 since getting dropped and has only started scoring now he's dropped into division 2, not the best of signs.
 
He's struggled in division 1 since getting dropped and has only started scoring now he's dropped into division 2, not the best of signs.
He needs to be in the test side. Even Tom Dick & Harry are scoring tons of runs in county cricket. Ian Bell is the kind of cricketer who will up his game the moment he gets a call back into test cricket.
 
I wouldn't be caught dead having Vince in my team. Time after time he gives shambolic performances.
 
Moeen gets criticism despite being a match winner in England, that too despite unstability when it comes to his role yet this specialist aka Vince gets repeated chances and continues to fail, the guy averages less than 25 at the international level! I would take Bell or Mo in his place to do his job and they couldn't possibly do worse then a HACK, but what more do you expect from a selection committee that selects players that don't even play FC cricket. Since 1863 the junior school level Hampshire have not produced a single respectable international for England and if that doesn't speak volumes I don't know what will. James is being treated as if he has accomplished the greatest feats since Jesus walked on water, he is no Mark Ramprakash either who England backed within reason which was understandable at the time.

Don't select Mo or Bell, but Vince does not deserve to represent England and has had countless chances now. It's not his fault he plays for a club which breeds a mentally weak culture and zero generalship on the cricket pitch. This selection comitee is so thick that if Cook was still playing he'd get overlooked because of Vince's valuable 'division 1' runs, are people blind? When we stop thinking like Hampshire Hogs things will improve. [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION]
 
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He needs to be in the test side. Even Tom Dick & Harry are scoring tons of runs in county cricket. Ian Bell is the kind of cricketer who will up his game the moment he gets a call back into test cricket.

He couldn't up his game for the last few years of his test career, what makes you think he's going to be able to now?
 
Does Ian Bell need to kill the Taliban to deserve a call? Stubborn selectors. Its like they don’t want to pick him to prove a point. I hope England loose the last two tests, really hate this!

Ian Bell's last 3 first class scores are 2, 0 & 8. Am I missing something?
 
Moeen gets criticism despite being a match winner in England, that too despite unstability when it comes to his role yet this specialist aka Vince gets repeated chances and continues to fail, the guy averages less than 25 at the international level! I would take Bell or Mo in his place to do his job and they couldn't possibly do worse then a HACK, but what more do you expect from a selection committee that selects players that don't even play FC cricket. Since 1863 the junior school level Hampshire have not produced a single respectable international for England and if that doesn't speak volumes I don't know what will. James is being treated as if he has accomplished the greatest feats since Jesus walked on water, he is no Mark Ramprakash either who England backed within reason which was understandable at the time.

Don't select Mo or Bell, but Vince does not deserve to represent England and has had countless chances now. It's not his fault he plays for a club which breeds a mentally weak culture and zero generalship on the cricket pitch. This selection comitee is so thick that if Cook was still playing he'd get overlooked because of Vince's valuable 'division 1' runs, are people blind? When we stop thinking like Hampshire Hogs things will improve. [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION]

Vince has the ability to look absolute class, then gets out.

T20 is the reason for this. All the young England batters are trying to "beat the ball" rather than wait and build an innings.

But he has been batting with Amla and putting big scores on the board, so perhaps the penny has dropped that he can't come in and larrup test bowlers without waiting for them to tire a bit and the shine to come off the ball.

If Bairstow is available I would put him at #1, Vince at #3 and Moeen at #5.
 
Surely Moeen Ali has to play in the next Test match.

He's in very good form and could present the Indian bowlers with an interesting challenge.

You will probably see a lot of bouncers bowled at him by Bumrah, Shami and Pandya at 90+ mph.
 
Vince has the ability to look absolute class, then gets out.

T20 is the reason for this. All the young England batters are trying to "beat the ball" rather than wait and build an innings.

But he has been batting with Amla and putting big scores on the board, so perhaps the penny has dropped that he can't come in and larrup test bowlers without waiting for them to tire a bit and the shine to come off the ball.

If Bairstow is available I would put him at #1, Vince at #3 and Moeen at #5.

This discussion makes me recall something very interesting that Jon Hotten wrote recently on his blog that James Vince is cricket's equivalent of a Rorschach Test, in that what you see and imagine when you watch Vince bat tells you something about yourself; i.e. either it stirs up inchoate emotions filled with beauty and wonder or you feel contempt for superficial appearances. I'm ashamed to admit that I am not a Vince convert like Hotten, and I do feel slightly annoyed whenever he gets out (perhaps it's annoyance at unfulfilled promise). Either way I'm hoping that he fulfils that talent with some consistent scores this time around.
 
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Woakes having a niggle might be blessing for England if Curran replaces him.
Don't think Vince will play, Jonny's too tough to miss a critical test
 
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