England v Australia | 3rd Test | Birmingham | England win 3rd Test by 8 wickets

[Lurker_Ind]

Anderson has 6-47 and Australia are all out for 136, having batted nearly 37 overs after choosing to bat first.

Now for Chef and Lyth to face The Mitchell Brothers

I say its still a good batting pitch. At least this has some bounce. So Mitch brothers will like it. I expect England to score around 250. First few overs will be interesting.

 

[TNA]

136 all out. Jimmy gets 6-47. England just needed the three bowlers !

As the old saying goes however, judge a pitch when both sides have batted on it. Little margin for error for Aussie bowlers now with such a pitiful score.

That could very well apply to the English batters aswell

 

[EliteCynical]

Puts Rahane's Lords 100 into perspective. Pitch was greener than this one and attack was similar, if not more potent.

 

[EliteCynical]

If a sub continent spinner takes 6/47 on a crumbling pitch, he is labelled as home track bully. However Anderson (Clouderson) seems to be an ATG according to English. Can someone help me remember a brilliant Anderson in unhelpful conditions?

 

[Justcrazy]

Aussies need to get Poms for 220 here.

 

[leatherface58]

Sir Jimmy is back with the return of the clouds and the green top.

England should take a decent lead. Hazlewood might be the best bowler for Oz.

 

[Justcrazy]

This pitch will Test Poms , they will need batters to play kind of cameos , runs will be vital.

 

[Justcrazy]

Its raining again.

 

[Robert]

Puts Rahane's Lords 100 into perspective. Pitch was greener than this one and attack was similar, if not more potent.

England bowled rubbish that day - Jimmy in particular was far too short. I don't think he was able to adjust his length after the Southampton deck.

 

[Madplayer]

England bowled rubbish that day - Jimmy in particular was far too short. I don't think he was able to adjust his length after the Southampton deck.

Appreciate the knock mate. It was good for a subcontinent batsman.

 

[Robert]

If a sub continent spinner takes 6/47 on a crumbling pitch, he is labelled as home track bully. However Anderson (Clouderson) seems to be an ATG according to English. Can someone help me remember a brilliant Anderson in unhelpful conditions?

6-42 in Barbados earlier this year.

We don't think he is an ATG - we think he is a good bowler. He has done well in most places since he learned to reverse it in 2010.

 

[Robert]

Appreciate the knock mate. It was good for a subcontinent batsman.

I appreciate Sunny, Vengsarker, Azhar, SRT and Dravid rather more. They all succeeded in England on a sustained basis.

 

[EliteCynical]

6-42 in Barbados earlier this year.

We don't think he is an ATG - we think he is a good bowler. He has done well in most places since he learned to reverse it in 2010.

Cheers mate. I respect your opinion. However, don't think that's the general consensus in Eng. Also agree with you reg the reverse swing bit.

 

[EliteCynical]

England bowled rubbish that day - Jimmy in particular was far too short. I don't think he was able to adjust his length after the Southampton deck.

Not sure which series you are talking about mate. Lords was the second test before Southampton. The first test was drawn at Trentbridge. And Anderson took a 4-fer that day at Lords. Anyhow, that's history. Let's hope for a cracker here.

 

[Justcrazy]

Starc continues.

 

[Man Of Steel]

Really disappointed in Aussies, amateurish stuff!

But anyway if Aussies can score 136 on a seaming track, you can be rest assured Englishmen can bundle out below 100 on the same track.

 

[Man Of Steel]

1 wicket here and you can witness a traditional English choke!

 

[Abhilash93]

So England finally realise the 2013 Ashes pitches aren't gonna work this time round with no Swanny! Good for them. A contest like this is so much better.

 

[Justcrazy]

12 . 0

Aussies still looking for breakthrough

 

[Man Of Steel]

Clarky unleash the mighty beast and poms greatest nightmare aka Johnson and see these Englishmen tremble in fear and crumble underpressure, comeon what are you waiting for?

 

[Man Of Steel]

Yesssssssssss! Now get Johnson back, Bell is his bunny!

 

[Justcrazy]

first blood

 

[Big Mac]

Well I don't have time and patience to go through the archives to find your silly post but you were LICKING their boots and jumping up and down like a crazy little girl.

Find the thread, click the number of posts on the right hand column and it shows you the number of posts each poster has made. Click that, it will display every post I made in the match thread.

Takes what, 30 seconds of work to find everything I said about that game.

Seeing as you're doubling down on the "boot licking" then you should have the courtesy and/or the balls to back it up.

Ta.

 

[Man Of Steel]

Bell what have you done, getting the strike back LOL, Now face the music.

 

[Justcrazy]

24 / 1

 

[Justcrazy]

Cook needs to play a captains knock here.

 

[Justcrazy]

Crucial phase in the game.

 

[Justcrazy]

38 / 1

 

[Man Of Steel]

Cricket has become so boring!

 

[IndianWillow]

England bowled rubbish that day - Jimmy in particular was far too short. I don't think he was able to adjust his length after the Southampton deck.

I think great knocks are judged mostly by the nature of pitch and the quality of bowlers. The bowler's form isn't generally taken into account. It could be that when the batsmen are so fluent bowlers can lose rhythm and make them look worse than they are. Sehwag routinely used to make good bowling ordinary due to the pace at which he scored. If good bowlers are in great form on juicy pitches then very few batsmen have made tall scores - a bowler needs just a single delivery to pack off a batsman, however good the batsman might be.

 

[Man Of Steel]

This is so embarrassing

 

[Man Of Steel]

There were no laughs and jokes in Sky combox when Aussies were humiliating Englishmen on field in last Ashes

 

[Enforcer]

If only Harris would have been there for australia, things could have been different. Hazlewood is the only bowler who is creating some trouble despite going for runs.

 

[trogger]

test(maybe series) over in less than a day, this might be even worse than boxing day 2010.

 

[Robert]

Awww Dingdong! You had them at your mercy, you were playing so well. Stop underestimating Lyon!

 

[Ottoman]

132/3. Great work by England. Still 19 more overs to go in day's play.

 

[honeybadger]

England should win it from here.

 

[Executioner]

Good show for England.

What a weird series this has been, first england thumps Australia then Australia thumps England then England mauling Australia once again-honestly not so great when you consider quality.

2005 was the best I have seen, there was excitement in every match going down the wire

 

[prtikul]

Yes, 2005 was something else, Still it's good to see contest between these two teams since then.

England do play exciting brand of test cricket when they are on song while playing at home.

But one sided mauling like our team faced in last 3 tests gets very embarrassing to watch. No point in plying 5 tests on those pitches where games ends in 3 days due to quality of our test team.

 

[Robert]

Good show for England.

What a weird series this has been, first england thumps Australia then Australia thumps England then England mauling Australia once again-honestly not so great when you consider quality.

2005 was the best I have seen, there was excitement in every match going down the wire

We have had one day, with not even ninety overs bowled. This test could still go down to the wire! - though it might only take three days....

 

[Random Aussie]

All of sudden no issues with the drainage of the pitch or the hot summer....hey presto we just lost, here's a seamer )

Ribbing aside, we can't play swing. First session tomorrow we need wickets or we are pretty much gone.

 

[Robert]

All of sudden no issues with the drainage of the pitch or the hot summer....hey presto we just lost, here's a seamer )

It's been hosing down all over the UK for days mate. We got a month's worth of rain on Friday night. We're wearing jackets and hats in July.

And that was hardly a green wicket and didn't seam that much. Four of your batters threw their wickets away, while Rogers and Bell have shown that they can get in and score on it. It's a decent cricket wicket - good batters can score, good bowlers can take wickets.

 

[soso_killer]

so all it took was the ball to move a bit and boom! watch the Aussie's do what they do best, fold.
England should not throw this game away, must look for a minimum of 280 which will give them a lead of around 150. Any total approaching and beyond 300 will be curtains for the Aussies, England must be mindful they'll be batting last and must ensure they get a sizeable lead.
More of these pitches will do the world a lot of good. Jimmy>>>Steyn what a bowling performance.

 

[Random Aussie]

It's been hosing down all over the UK for days mate. We got a month's worth of rain on Friday night. We're wearing jackets and hats in July.

And that was hardly a green wicket and didn't seam that much. Four of your batters threw their wickets away, while Rogers and Bell have shown that they can get in and score on it. It's a decent cricket wicket - good batters can score, good bowlers can take wickets.

I don't mind the pitch, I was just amused because English like to insist the dead wickets are not prepared on purpose. Then when dead wickets are not working, all of a sudden a green pitch appears.

Our batters always throw their wickets away, that's what they do. Now our bowlers have to bring it tomorrow to keep us in the game.

I thought Finn's extra pace make a difference too.

 

[justarslan]

If a sub continent spinner takes 6/47 on a crumbling pitch, he is labelled as home track bully. However Anderson (Clouderson) seems to be an ATG according to English. Can someone help me remember a brilliant Anderson in unhelpful conditions?

England lost 3-0 but both Broad and Anderson did pretty well in UAE against us.

 

[Random Aussie]

so all it took was the ball to move a bit and boom! watch the Aussie's do what they do best, fold.
England should not throw this game away, must look for a minimum of 280 which will give them a lead of around 150. Any total approaching and beyond 300 will be curtains for the Aussies, England must be mindful they'll be batting last and must ensure they get a sizeable lead.
More of these pitches will do the world a lot of good. Jimmy>>>Steyn what a bowling performance.

Agree with that

 

[SL_Fan]

This is turning out to be one interesting series. Just when you think a side is down and out baam! Brilliant bowling by Eng. Aussies with all to do now to get back in the game. Looking at a 100+ run deficit.

 

[Robert]

I don't mind the pitch, I was just amused because English like to insist the dead wickets are not prepared on purpose.

Yeah, I do.

Whatever the wickets, Aussies will whinge that they are rigged. That's just what you lot do. In 2013 they were all dustbowls for Swann IIRC. Aussies are all decent bonzer folk, Englishmen are all moustache-twirling villains saying "Nya ha ha ha harrrrrr!"

 

[James]

Good bowling/catching from England and rubbish batting from the Aussies.

Rogers should extend his career and Clarke should end his.

We could yet find ourselves bundled out for 220 which would mean the Aussies would be back in it, but a much more preferable 350 would be an all but winning lead.

 

[trogger]

Yeah, I do.

Whatever the wickets, Aussies will whinge that they are rigged. That's just what you lot do. In 2013 they were all dustbowls for Swann IIRC. Aussies are all decent bonzer folk, Englishmen are all moustache-twirling villains saying "Nya ha ha ha harrrrrr!"

huh?

Everybody basically accepted Strauss ordered the dead tracks, it backfired so cook and the team said please give us green and thats what they got.

I have no issue with them doing that and it was nice to see a pitch that actually asked some real questions but your constant assertions that england don't doctor tracks based on opponents and series scorelines is as tired as it is laughable.

it's no big deal( i hate that we don't do it more often for our home tests) so why constantly try to act like it's all due to the english weather?

 

[trogger]

Good bowling/catching from England and rubbish batting from the Aussies.

Pretty much was just solid stuff all day from england and outside of rogers we just seemed lost, seemed more a 250 pitch though not an unplayable all out in under 40 overs deck, don't think we would have rolled england in the same manner if we bowled first as they understand how to fight through a few hours of swing.

 

[Random Aussie]

England should win it from here.

No kidding

 

[IndianWillow]

300 first innings score should be decisive for England. Australia don't have the batsmen who can play long innings on wickets that have movement. Unless the wicket behaves dramatically different from the first innings, England just need to make sure they get a decent lead to close out the match.

 

[Random Aussie]

Good bowling/catching from England and rubbish batting from the Aussies.

Rogers should extend his career and Clarke should end his.

We could yet find ourselves bundled out for 220 which would mean the Aussies would be back in it, but a much more preferable 350 would be an all but winning lead.

Rogers is at his best in these conditions, it's why he was picked in the first place. It's a masterclass to watch him bat here actually. He isn't Ian Bell but he plays very late, minimises risk unless it is in one spot in which case he throws the bat at it, knocks it around the corners then attacks when the bowlers tire.

Clarke is finished.

 

[trogger]

300 first innings score should be decisive for England. Australia don't have the batsmen who can play long innings on wickets that have movement. Unless the wicket behaves dramatically different from the first innings, England just need to make sure they get a decent lead to close out the match.

We just don't fightback from these sorts of spots, we crush people when we got our noses in front but once we dig ourselves a hole our only way out seems to be to dig ever faster next time round.

Short of rolling them inside the first session i can't see how we can stay in this one.

 

[Amjid Javed]

A lead of 100 here and it will be a match winning one for england. You just look at Aussie batting at warner looks woefully out of sorts, clarke is on the decline and is nowhere near the player he use to be and despite playing county cricket Voges looks like he is some that will be knocked over cheaply when ball is moving around.

if england are batting at tea today i can see that been launch pad to win the game.

 

[Robert]

huh?

Everybody basically accepted Strauss ordered the dead tracks, it backfired so cook and the team said please give us green and thats what they got.

I have no issue with them doing that and it was nice to see a pitch that actually asked some real questions but your constant assertions that england don't doctor tracks based on opponents and series scorelines is as tired as it is laughable.

it's no big deal( i hate that we don't do it more often for our home tests) so why constantly try to act like it's all due to the english weather?

Because I believe it to be true. Strauss wouldn't order up dead tracks, and if he did he wouldn't get them because the groundsmen are not ECB employees. English cricket doesn't work that way and neither does English weather. I've watched for decades as the groundsmen handed greentops to Hadlee and bunsens to Murali. Laugh if you like - I'm still right. Stop believing conspiracy theory and start applying Occam's Razor.

 

[Random Aussie]

Because I believe it to be true. Strauss wouldn't order up dead tracks, and if he did he wouldn't get them because the groundsmen are not ECB employees. English cricket doesn't work that way and neither does English weather. I've watched for decades as the groundsmen handed greentops to Hadlee and bunsens to Murali. Laugh if you like - I'm still right. Stop believing conspiracy theory and start applying Occam's Razor.

Why not? Because he's a good sort of bloke? Went to the right school? Mate of yours?

 

[Convict]

Yeah and Australian cricket doesn't work that way.

Except for the Tassie greentops when they had a decent pace attack and the amazing coincidence of wickets becoming flat when the home side in the final want a draw.

Occam's Razor says Strauss ordered a dead track

 

[Robert]

Why not? Because he's a good sort of bloke? Went to the right school? Mate of yours?

Because it would be handing an advantage to the Australians, obviously! Jeez mate, think it through. Why would a clever bloke like Strauss choose to make such a colossally stupid blunder? If Australia had batted first at Cardiff it would likely be 0-2 to them now and the Ashes would be gone.

If the ECB were rigging the wickets, there would have been three green mambas for Jimmy. Why didn't that happen, do you think?

 

[Robert]

Occam's Razor says Strauss ordered a dead track

It doesn't, but if it did, what power does he have to enforce such an order?

 

[Convict]

Because it would be handing an advantage to the Australians, obviously! Jeez mate, think it through. Why would a clever bloke like Strauss choose to make such a colossally stupid blunder? If Australia had batted first at Cardiff it would likely be 0-2 to them now and the Ashes would be gone.

If the ECB were rigging the wickets, there would have been three green mambas for Jimmy. Why didn't that happen, do you think?

Because they didn't think it would be a colossal advantage. It's the kind of wicket where Johnson historically becomes cannon fodder on.

 

[Random Aussie]

Because it would be handing an advantage to the Australians, obviously! Jeez mate, think it through. Why would a clever bloke like Strauss choose to make such a colossally stupid blunder? If Australia had batted first at Cardiff it would likely be 0-2 to them now and the Ashes would be gone.

If the ECB were rigging the wickets, there would have been three green mambas for Jimmy. Why didn't that happen, do you think?

I'm not thinking it through, this is an Internet forum where I give an opinion based on some sentences in your post and nothing more.

 

[Robert]

I'm not thinking it through, this is an Internet forum where I give an opinion based on some sentences in your post and nothing more.

You Aussies. The idea of the evil mastermind Perfidious Pom has possessed you since Jardine. Things are more likely to happen here because of the c0ck-up theory, than because anyone has a clue what is going on, believe me.

 

[Robert]

We're in the lead!

 

[Robert]

Hah! Bye bye Bairstow!

 

[Random Aussie]

Bye Hobbit

 

[Amjid Javed]

Two early wickets for MJ! Game definatley back on now.

142/5 - england lead by 6 runs..

 

[Enforcer]

Bye Bye stokes!

 

[Amjid Javed]

Wow, what a start to the 2nd day

 

[Nikhil_cric]

300 wickets for Mitch and 400 for Steyn on the same day.

 

[IndianWillow]

We just don't fightback from these sorts of spots, we crush people when we got our noses in front but once we dig ourselves a hole our only way out seems to be to dig ever faster next time round.

Short of rolling them inside the first session i can't see how we can stay in this one.

I think your bowlers can fight their way out of trouble, it is the batsmen who can't.

 

[Noora420]

Need Buttle and Moin asap. Broad can also score runs.

Australia need to get them all out before 200 to have any chance in the game.

 

[WrexEverything]

Nothing better to watch than an intimidating pacer bowling at full tilt. This is awesome from Mitch!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Hazlewood has been a bit disappointing here. This track should have suited him more than any other bowler.

 

[WrexEverything]

Hazlewood has been a bit disappointing here. This track should have suited him more than any other bowler.

Yup. Has bowled too many loose balls. Far more than I expected.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Hazelwood has been woeful with the ball so far in this inns!

Also clarke needs to start using a 3rd man, these easy runs been given away could be crucial.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Another 2 quick wickets here would really make game interesting.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Yup. Has bowled too many loose balls. Far more than I expected.

Yeah has surprisingly been a bit wayward.

 

[Robert]

Nothing better to watch than an intimidating pacer bowling at full tilt. This is awesome from Mitch!

Interesting, as he is no quicker than Finn. What is the difference - the lower action resulting in throat balls, instead of head-high bouncers that can be ducked?