England v India | 2nd Test | Lord's | Aug 12 - Aug 16, 2021 | Pre-match discussion

[Devadwal]

They’re missing all 5. Woakes is their best test AR. Archer is the enforcer and Broad is Broad, he doesn’t need any explanation, he’s good at getting in form

They are decline & wrong side of age, Better to play yougster's. If pujara & Rahane injured im really happy as they are past their prime. Same case with England team.

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

They are decline & wrong side of age, Better to play yougster's. If pujara & Rahane injured im really happy as they are past their prime. Same case with England team.

Age doesn’t matter lol, Broad and Woakes are both in top 10, in bowler and AR ranking. Would u drop Kohli coz he’s on “wrong side of 30s and did nothing in 2 years, lol.

Just biased and delusional

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

First most important update - there's not a single rainy day predicted for the entire 5 days at Lord's for the 2nd Test match between England and India.

After first test England is a team who will be more happy as indian team think they clearly robbed off a win due to rains .

What is india playing eleven for 2nd test assuming green top.

Knowing Virat he may play same team but i want to play both Ashwin & Jadeja .

My team -
Rohit
Rahul
Pujara ( last chance) if he failed then play vihari
Virat
Rahane ( last chance )
Pant
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bumrah
Shami
Siraj/ Ishant

England will definitely Play Hameed instead of Crawley .if pope is available to play then he will also play in place of Lawrence .

Burn
Sibley
Hameed
Root
Bairstow
Butler
Pope/ Lawrence or a spinner if they want to play
Curran
Robinson
Broad
Jimmy

I guess Ashwin for Thakur will be a given.
And Moeen for Curran or broad. Given Curran's batting ability, i guess Broad pratt will be sittng out.
Its a tossup between ishant and Siraj....Ishant is coming back from injury and may not be that hot fav,....but Siraj has the ability to rile up the oppo - may just edge him....
Pope might be in for lawrence.
Hope VK wins toss for a change.
Am guess his record of 7 straight toss losses have to be some sort of a record....

 

[Rajdeep]

I do not have to explain you everything, coz if it was someone else I’d have explained what I mean, but not to one who forces his opinion

You said But good for India, can easily register their first series win

I am simply asking first series win where? You do realize India have won series in England before right? Curious what you are trying to imply.

Then again, if you dont want to reply thats fine too.

 

[Devadwal]

Age doesn’t matter lol, Broad and Woakes are both in top 10, in bowler and AR ranking. Would u drop Kohli coz he’s on “wrong side of 30s and did nothing in 2 years, lol.

Just biased and delusional

If last test woakes was fit then Robinson would have not play so they not miss him at all .they can play 3 pacers not 5-6 in playing Eleven . Robinson > Woakes for me .

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

You said But good for India, can easily register their first series win

I am simply asking first series win where? You do realize India have won series in England before right? Curious what you are trying to imply.

Then again, if you dont want to reply thats fine too.

I meant for Kohli and co. as he should. Coz test series wins in England and Australia will define his legacy. He already won in Australia (albeit against a weakened team), should win this series as it’ll make him the top captain, as he’s yet to win something significant as a captain.

By the time he tours England in next three years he will be 35+, so this is the best time

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

If last test woakes was fit then Robinson would have not play so they not miss him at all .they can play 3 pacers not 5-6 in playing Eleven . Robinson > Woakes for me .

Also u are comparing Woakes with Robinson, he’s an AR and should play in place of Curran.

When did I say 5-6, I meant 4

Woakes
Archer
Broad
Anderson

So, all 4 are missing

 

[Devadwal]

Anderson is 39 year old and people's still want to play him in every game lol .he can't play every game due to his age ,thats why he is injured now , same case with broad .

 

[gazza619]

Former captain Geoffrey Boycott has slammed the England batsmen for showing lack of patience

I actually think the England batsmen showed far too much patience on Day 1. They could have easily been bowled out for 283 in 65 overs instead of 183.

 

[Devadwal]

No need to play 2 spinner on Green mamba

 

[Saurav]

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No need to play 2 spinner on Green mamba

that might be shaved off

hopefully Thakur is fit it isnt

 

[Devadwal]

that might be shaved off

hopefully Thakur is fit it isnt

History showing Lord's is not a spinners friendly pitch so we have to think twice before selecting two spinners .

 

[Saurav]

History showing Lord's is not a spinners friendly pitch so we have to think twice before selecting two spinners .

It isnt always the case. Moeen picked 10 here vs SA

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-south-africa-1st-test-1031437/full-scorecard

Anyway current Ashwin doesnt need much assistance as he showed in Aus

I'll still prefer Thakur if its a greentop,fitness permitting

 

[Technics 1210]

Jimmy and Broad could miss 2nd Test.

James Anderson and Stuart Broad: England bowlers could miss second India Test through injury - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/58169608

 

[Rajdeep]

I can never forget the Lords test 2018 where we lost by an innings and 159 runs. It was an embarassment of epic proportions infront of my office colleagues. Cant believe its been 3 years already. Hope we perform better this time.

 

[Titan24]

So as per the definitions used recently this will be Eng C or E team if anyone or both of Broad and Anderson miss out. Eng is already without Stokes, Woakes and Archer (Ollie Pope also wasn’t available for selection in first test).

There hasn’t been a better opportunity for India to win a series in Eng then this in the last decade or so.

 

[Rajdeep]

So as per the definitions used recently this will be Eng C or E team if anyone or both of Broad and Anderson miss out. Eng is already without Stokes, Woakes and Archer (Ollie Pope also wasn’t available for selection in first test).

There hasn’t been a better opportunity for India to win a series in Eng then this in the last decade or so.

They are playing at home and that negates everything. India will beat Eng with any team if the series is in India. Remember even Jayant Yadav and Karun Nair was scoring for fun against them in 2016 home series.

So even though Eng is slightly weaker due to Stokes & Broady being out but the fact they are playing at home conditions nullifies that. It will still be a great achievement for India if they win the series.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Looks like Thakur is out injured....i guess we will go for ashwin
I would back VK-Jinks-Che pu , any two of the trio to go big....we wont get too many tests in which these three donot fire..
i guess the same can be said about butler, baristow etc
Shane warne said once if it seams on a green pitch it will spin as well...
I remember Harbie took heaps of wickets in Hamilton to win that test in NZ 2009
Would back the spin twins to do it for us again...

 

[Mesozoic]

So as per the definitions used recently this will be Eng C or E team if anyone or both of Broad and Anderson miss out. Eng is already without Stokes, Woakes and Archer (Ollie Pope also wasn’t available for selection in first test).

There hasn’t been a better opportunity for India to win a series in Eng then this in the last decade or so.

India will also be without Gill, Mayank, Sundar Shardul (and maybe Siraj as well according to reports). That's half the team that lifted the BG trophy at Gabba earlier this year.

Bring on India C vs England C...

 

[Mesozoic]

We must remember that there's no such thing as a "full strength" English bowling attack. They have been rotating their seamers left , right and center in the past 2 years. So no one has any idea what their full strength bowling attack looks like..

Anderson
Woakes
Curran
Wood
Broad
Robinson
Archer
Stone
Leach
Bess
Moeen

Pick any four from the above list and it's pretty much their first choice attack.

Same is the case for India with Ishant, Shami, Bumrah, Siraj, Thakur, Umesh, Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin..

 

[Titan24]

They are playing at home and that negates everything. India will beat Eng with any team if the series is in India. Remember even Jayant Yadav and Karun Nair was scoring for fun against them in 2016 home series.

So even though Eng is slightly weaker due to Stokes & Broady being out but the fact they are playing at home conditions nullifies that. It will still be a great achievement for India if they win the series.

Definitely would be a big achievement.

However, if you have observed quite a few posters keep on adding random letters in front of a team when they are missing a few players. When the team wins, then its said that the other team wasn't full strength and if the team loses than its said as the team couldn't even win against a weaker team.

I was just mentioning that if we go by the same definition or criteria than Eng is also going to be without 4 or 5 of their regular test players and thus as per definition of few posters its C or D team.

 

[Mesozoic]

I was just mentioning that if we go by the same definition or criteria than Eng is also going to be without 4 or 5 of their regular test players and thus as per definition of few posters its C or D team.

Except that those regular players got or will get replaced by other regular players and not some county debutants.

Stokes got replaced by Bairstow/Moeen..

Broad will be replaced by Wood, who's arguably an upgrade over him..

Woakes by Curran..

You get the point.

It's not a C or D team if it has players that have been playing test cricket regularly for years.

 

[Devadwal]

We must remember that there's no such thing as a "full strength" English bowling attack. They have been rotating their seamers left , right and center in the past 2 years. So no one has any idea what their full strength bowling attack looks like..

Anderson
Woakes
Curran
Wood
Broad
Robinson
Archer
Stone
Leach
Bess
Moeen

Pick any four from the above list and it's pretty much their first choice attack.

Same is the case for India with Ishant, Shami, Bumrah, Siraj, Thakur, Umesh, Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin..

This , they are full strength but some people's just doing can't accept Truth.

 

[Titan24]

We must remember that there's no such thing as a "full strength" English bowling attack. They have been rotating their seamers left , right and center in the past 2 years. So no one has any idea what their full strength bowling attack looks like..

Anderson
Woakes
Curran
Wood
Broad
Robinson
Archer
Stone
Leach
Bess
Moeen

Pick any four from the above list and it's pretty much their first choice attack.

Same is the case for India with Ishant, Shami, Bumrah, Siraj, Thakur, Umesh, Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin..

Lol!

Anderson
Broad
Archer/Woakes
Stokes
and a spinner

Is their full strength attack in England with Sam Curran and Wood as backups.

The other two pacers (Robbinson, Stone) you have put in havent even played 5 tests yet. I am not sure what you are trying to prove here but, this isnt Eng's full strength squad.

 

[Devadwal]

Lol!

Anderson
Broad
Archer/Woakes
Stokes
and a spinner

Is their full strength attack in England with Sam Curran and Wood as backups.

The other two pacers (Robbinson, Stone) you have put in havent even played 5 tests yet. I am not sure what you are trying to prove here but, this isnt Eng's full strength squad.

Lol Anderson & Broad are now cant play 2-3 back to back test due to age .if im remembered clearly England play stone ahead of so called full strength attack in inda. Maybe you need to read England rotation policy.

 

[Titan24]

Except that those regular players got or will get replaced by other regular players and not some county debutants.

Stokes got replaced by Bairstow/Moeen..

Broad will be replaced by Wood, who's arguably an upgrade over him..

Woakes by Curran..

You get the point.

It's not a C or D team if it has players that have been playing test cricket regularly for years.

Again you are getting emotions to defend your logic coming into play and completely ignoring the facts.

If by "county debutants" you mean Eng ODI team which played against Pak, then its an incorrect statement. There were only three players (Simpson, Carse and Salt) in the playing XI of Eng that were representing Eng in any format for the first time and out of them Salt has been part of many leagues around the world. All others already had Eng cap in one format or another so they were far from county debutants. Yes it obviously wasnt Eng full strength team but, seeing it a team of country debutants is ignorance.

Seems like you are really sold on debutants. So some other facts, SA T20 series in Pakistan had just two debutants for them in the series (Only one played at each time) while the SA T20 series in SA had around 3 debutants in the entire series. Weren't we seeing letters D, G, Z or whatever?

Here Eng is without 4-5 regular players and you are defending it by bringing odd logics.

Its not their full strength team and thats a fact.

 

[Titan24]

Lol Anderson & Broad are now cant play 2-3 back to back test due to age .if im remembered clearly England play stone ahead of so called full strength attack in inda. Maybe you need to read England rotation policy.

Yes they do rotate Anderson and Broad but they generally haven't had a lot of new bowlers coming in any series against top 5 teams or so unless they are forced to do so like they are here as their main seam attack revolves around the names I have mentioned. You can see the rotation in any series with their full strength attack and these are the names you will see the rotation mainly in rotation.

 

[Firebat]

Stuart Broad ruled out for the LV= Insurance Test series against India

England seamer Stuart Broad has sustained a tear to his right calf and has been ruled out of the LV= Insurance Test series against India.

He underwent an MRI scan in London on Wednesday lunchtime, which revealed a tear.

Broad sustained the injury during the warm-up on Tuesday afternoon at Lord’s.

England have called up Lancashire seamer Saqib Mahmood as cover.

 

[Devadwal]

Stuart Broad ruled out for the LV= Insurance Test series against India

England seamer Stuart Broad has sustained a tear to his right calf and has been ruled out of the LV= Insurance Test series against India.

He underwent an MRI scan in London on Wednesday lunchtime, which revealed a tear.

Broad sustained the injury during the warm-up on Tuesday afternoon at Lord’s.

England have called up Lancashire seamer Saqib Mahmood as cover.

Good for England as he is useless nowdays . advantage England

 

[Firebat]

Broad, Archer, Stone, Woakes, Stokes all out. Anderson a doubt.

Big trouble for England.

Curran, Wood, Robinson and Overton are the remaining pacers.

 

[Firebat]

Good for England as he is useless nowdays . advantage England

Averages 22.1 across 21 Tests in the last 2 years. Not completely useless.

 

[Devadwal]

Averages 22.1 across 21 Tests in the last 2 years. Not completely useless.

He can't pickup a single wicket when he last toured india .in last test on bowler friendly pitch he just pick one wicket .

 

[Titan24]

Broad, Archer, Stone, Woakes, Stokes all out. Anderson a doubt.

Big trouble for England.

Curran, Wood, Robinson and Overton are the remaining pacers.

Absolutely big blow for Eng. Another question would be how many tests will Anderson or Wood will be able to play in the series of 5.

As rest of the 3 pacers other than Curran in the squad (Robbinson, Overton and Saqib) have 6 tests between them combined (Saqib is yet to play a test). However, I think Saqib's growth have been impressive in last year and can be a surprise.

 

[Titan24]

He can't pickup a single wicket when he last toured india .in last test on bowler friendly pitch he just pick one wicket .

So due to one test where he couldnt do much he becomes useless completely defying his record and performances in last couple of years? Not sure what last tour of india has to do with a test series happening in Eng.

 

[TeymurBlake]

My England line-up for the 2nd Test:

1. Rory Burns
2. Dom Sibley
3. Jonny Bairstow
4. Joe Root (C)
5. Moeen Ali
6. Dan Lawrence
7. Jos Buttler (WK)
8. Sam Curran
9. Ollie Robinson
10. Mark Wood
11. James Anderson

*Updated line-up after injuries.

1. Rory Burns
2. Haseeb Hameed
3. Jonny Bairstow
4. Joe Root (C)
5. Moeen Ali
6. Dan Lawrence
7. Jos Buttler (WK)
8. Sam Curran
9. Ollie Robinson
10. Mark Wood
11. Saqib Mahmood

 

[Firebat]

He can't pickup a single wicket when he last toured india .in last test on bowler friendly pitch he just pick one wicket .

And this Test is being played at Lord's.

You can't write off an average of 20.05 across his last 17 home Tests because of one poor game.

The remaining 4 bowlers I mentioned combined have played less than a 1/3 of the matches Broad has.

 

[Devadwal]

So due to one test where he couldnt do much he becomes useless completely defying his record and performances in last couple of years? Not sure what last tour of india has to do with a test series happening in Eng.

In bowling friendly condition anyone can take wicket's .lol even Stone takes wicket's in india that's show its time to give youngesters chance rather than oldies who can't even play any back to back test . Same case with india ,dropped Pujara & Rahane as both are past their prime.

If England will play both Broad & Anderson in The Ashes then ready for 5-0 win in favor of Aussies.

Robinson , Stone & Wood should be in starting playing eleven for The Ashes.

 

[Devadwal]

And this Test is being played at Lord's.

You can't write off an average of 20.05 across his last 17 home Tests because of one poor game.

The remaining 4 bowlers I mentioned combined have played less than a 1/3 of the matches Broad has.

Anderson & Broad are one of the best bowler of all time, no one denied that but now they past a certain age where they can't play a full series thats is a fact . Play saqib Mahmood at Lord's ,he will trouble indian batsman more than broad .

 

[Ab Fan]

Anderson's absence certainly weakens the England team. He is phenomenal in these conditions especially vs India.

As for Broad, I am not too sure. He is an England great but definitely replaceable.

Anderson and Stokes are two major misses for England. Others not too much because over a given series, the other guys like Curran, Robbinson and Wood can certainly cover up for them.

Either way, this is England's problem and not India's. Our focus should be to win the series.

 

[PakEngFan]

England D vs India. I hope we finally get rid of Crawley. Anyone will be better. Broad won’t be a huge miss due to his recent form.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

India will also be without Gill, Mayank, Sundar Shardul (and maybe Siraj as well according to reports). That's half the team that lifted the BG trophy at Gabba earlier this year.

Bring on India C vs England C...

Nice try. Here are the number of matches these guys have played for India :

Gill - 8
Mayank - 14
Sundar - 4
Shardul - 3
Siraj - 6

And this is for England :

Broad - 149
Stokes - 71
Archer - 13
Woakes - 38
Anderson - 163

 

[PakEngFan]

Nice try. Here are the number of matches these guys have played for India :

Gill - 8
Mayank - 14
Sundar - 4
Shardul - 3
Siraj - 6

And this is for England :

Broad - 149
Stokes - 71
Archer - 13
Woakes - 38
Anderson - 163

It’s embarrassing to say the least. Some of the mentioned above for India such as sundar is never getting picked ahead of Ashwin or Jadeja.

 

[dildilpak]

Thats what you get when you have 35+ year olds spearheading your bowling unit, breakdowns will be inevitable. Plus adding to England’s woes is an injury prone Archer.

England should start planning their future better - their red ball squad is one big mess!

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

A golden opportunity for India to win a memorable Lord's test.

All they have to do is hold their catches and select a solid XI.

English bowlers will suffer a lot. It will be hard for them to bowl out India, twice.

 

[Titan24]

*Updated line-up after injuries.

1. Rory Burns
2. Haseeb Hameed
3. Jonny Bairstow
4. Joe Root (C)
5. Moeen Ali
6. Dan Lawrence
7. Jos Buttler (WK)
8. Sam Curran
9. Ollie Robinson
10. Mark Wood
11. Saqib Mahmood

Decent lineup based upon the options available now for Eng. Bairstow’s technique in tests against new ball can be susceptible so I think over Lawrence they should bring in Pope for no 3 if fit (A decent talent who has batted at no 6 for enough time now) or stick with Crawley.

So I think they should put Moen at 6 and Bairstow at 5.

 

[Geil]

This is a very depleted England test side without Stokes, Archer, Woakes and now broad ruled out of the series due to injury.

This is the best chance India has to win all the remaining four test matches if the rain doesn't wash out full days of cricket like it happened in the first test match.

India wouldn't get an easy opposition like the one England will be fielding for the remaining 4 test matches.

 

[Ashmal]

Lol....at the excuses some of the usual suspects are making.

Stokes, Anderson, Broad, Woakes, Archer....are all out injured and some people are still calling it full strength England squad.

Its Eng C vs India.

Golden chance for India to finally win a series in England after a long time.

 

[Ashmal]

Anderson's absence certainly weakens the England team. He is phenomenal in these conditions especially vs India.

As for Broad, I am not too sure. He is an England great but definitely replaceable.

Anderson and Stokes are two major misses for England. Others not too much because over a given series, the other guys like Curran, Robbinson and Wood can certainly cover up for them.

Either way, this is England's problem and not India's. Our focus should be to win the series.

Apart from Stokes and Anderson....Chris Woakes is also a very big miss in English conditions.....his bowling stats in Eng are comparable to Anderson and he has played some clutch knocks with bat.

You can never write-off Broad specially at home.....he's one of those guys who can look out of sorts in a game but can run through a batting line-up the very next game.

 

[Ashmal]

In bowling friendly condition anyone can take wicket's .lol even Stone takes wicket's in india that's show its time to give youngesters chance rather than oldies who can't even play any back to back test . Same case with india ,dropped Pujara & Rahane as both are past their prime.

If England will play both Broad & Anderson in The Ashes then ready for 5-0 win in favor of Aussies.

Robinson , Stone & Wood should be in starting playing eleven for The Ashes.

Next Ashes is in Australia....different conditions.

But in English conditions,
Anderson
Broad
Archer
Woakes
Stokes are all part of first-choice Eng team.

 

[Mesozoic]

Again you are getting emotions to defend your logic coming into play and completely ignoring the facts.

If by "county debutants" you mean Eng ODI team which played against Pak, then its an incorrect statement. There were only three players (Simpson, Carse and Salt) in the playing XI of Eng that were representing Eng in any format for the first time and out of them Salt has been part of many leagues around the world. All others already had Eng cap in one format or another so they were far from county debutants. Yes it obviously wasnt Eng full strength team but, seeing it a team of country debutants is ignorance.

Seems like you are really sold on debutants. So some other facts, SA T20 series in Pakistan had just two debutants for them in the series (Only one played at each time) while the SA T20 series in SA had around 3 debutants in the entire series. Weren't we seeing letters D, G, Z or whatever?

Here Eng is without 4-5 regular players and you are defending it by bringing odd logics.

Its not their full strength team and thats a fact.

Don't know why you got so insecure and brought Pakistan into the discussion out of the blue lol.

Perhaps you should see the irony of you using the words "debutants" and "regular players" according to your convenience.

For Pakistan, it's only 3-4 debutants so no big deal in you trying to defend them but for India it's the 4-5 regular players missing with maybe 1 potential debutant and I'm the one bringing odd logics

Not even subtle..

 

[Mahee]

Unlike India, England is playing their full strength team and that too at home...it's really difficult to beat this them....would be a miracle even if India manages to win a single test.

 

[Ab Fan]

Apart from Stokes and Anderson....Chris Woakes is also a very big miss in English conditions.....his bowling stats in Eng are comparable to Anderson and he has played some clutch knocks with bat.

You can never write-off Broad specially at home.....he's one of those guys who can look out of sorts in a game but can run through a batting line-up the very next game.

This is England's problem, not ours. In the 2021 India vs England Jan-Feb home series, India were missing Ravindra Jadeja, Mohammad Shami, Umesh Yadav and Axar Patel ( 1st test) but we did won the series 3-1.

Also, Anderson is in doubts for next test, he hasn't been ruled out of the series.

 

[Titan24]

For Pakistan, it's only 3-4 debutants so no big deal in you trying to defend them but for India it's the 4-5 regular players missing with maybe 1 potential debutant and I'm the one bringing odd logics

Not even subtle..

Lol! I am not the one giving out tags of C, D to teams like some, my first post just mentioned where would this Eng team fit if we go with such definitions. It isnt and wasnt particularly about you rather quite a few posters who loved tagging the squads, you quoted my post so we started this discussion.

Thing is I havent observed the subtleness you are refering to in other threads. I think A,B,C by some went as far as as Z if I am not wrong. Odd how quickly you started defending the strength of Eng team when they are missing 4-5 of their regulars from a format (Test) where the impact is felt usually more, when that kind of passion went missing in other threads. I get it, not an issue but was worth discussing.

Well atlast you accepted England is not full strength and they are missing quite a few of their regulars after your attempt to explain how every player/bowler in their squad is a regular and you cant determine what is their full strength attack which was factually incorrect. Thats a start.

 

[Mesozoic]

This is England's problem, not ours. In the 2021 India vs England Jan-Feb home series, India were missing Ravindra Jadeja, Mohammad Shami, Umesh Yadav and Axar Patel ( 1st test) but we did won the series 3-1.

Pretty much this!

The match hasn't even started and the usual suspects have already started to cope.

Just like India replaced Jadeja, Shami and umesh , England also have capable replacements for Woakes, Anderson and Archer to beat anyone at home. Broad is washed up so they won't miss him. Anyone who denies this is just way too desperate to downplay a potential Indian series win..

 

[Ashmal]

This is England's problem, not ours. In the 2021 India vs England Jan-Feb home series, India were missing Ravindra Jadeja, Mohammad Shami, Umesh Yadav and Axar Patel ( 1st test) but we did won the series 3-1.

Also, Anderson is in doubts for next test, he hasn't been ruled out of the series.

No one is saying that it's India's fault.

But some people are downplaying the absence of these players and implying that England is still at full-strength...which is rubbish.

These same people are very quick to brand other teams X/Y/Z even when only a couple of players are missing

If India win credit to them, fully deserved....but fact remains that it's a severely depleted English team

 

[Ashmal]

Pretty much this!

The match hasn't even started and the usual suspects have already started to cope.

Just like India replaced Jadeja, Shami and umesh , England also have capable replacements for Woakes, Anderson and Archer to beat anyone at home. Broad is washed up so they won't miss him. Anyone who denies this is just way too desperate to downplay a potential Indian series win..

Some Indian fans getting too defensive....lol

This has got nothing to do with India.
If India win the series credit to them, they'll deserve it....it's not their fault that English players got injured

But India winning or losing won't change the fact....that it's a severely depleted English side missing atleast 5 of their first choice players....which some of you are finding difficult to accept

 

[PakLFC]

Ok, so based on nothing.

Kohli is based on quality. Don't you know that?

 

[PakLFC]

It was cloudy. Anderson and the rest of the bowlers would have got there having there was 3 sessions left. Broad was also finding some rhythm too.

But the target was low as well. England for sure would have made inroads in the Indian batting. India would have limped home with a wicket or two to spare.

 

[wajid]

I missed this point and was surprised by relative dominance of India in the first test. Seems England did well despite missing some of the most clutch players in recent history in Archer and Stokes. Now with Anderson and Broad gone as well, England is very depleted. Will be absolutely fantastic if they are still able to challenge India.

Batting especially in absence of Stokes is just Root. Now entire first choice bowling is also gone! Very tough for England!

 

[James]

A lot of talk about English bowling injuries, but I think the attack is looking quite good lol. Yes Anderson is a miss, but at his age he was never going to play all five matches anyway. Rest him for this one. Wood, Robinson, Mahmood, Curran, Moeen, to me that’s a pretty bloody good bowling attack lol. Not concerned about them at all, they will do the business. It’s more the batting that is mortifyingly awful.

 

[Devadwal]

A lot of talk about English bowling injuries, but I think the attack is looking quite good lol. Yes Anderson is a miss, but at his age he was never going to play all five matches anyway. Rest him for this one. Wood, Robinson, Mahmood, Curran, Moeen, to me that’s a pretty bloody good bowling attack lol. Not concerned about them at all, they will do the business. It’s more the batting that is mortifyingly awful.

This is exactly my points . Anderson & broad are England legends but now they cant have fitness to play a full series .only player England will miss in this series is stokes, rest are replaceable with quality player's . .

 

[Devadwal]

Won't be surprised if Ishant comes in for Siraj & Ashwin play for Shardul.

 

[Mesozoic]

But India winning or losing won't change the fact....that it's a severely depleted English side missing atleast 5 of their first choice players....which some of you are finding difficult to accept

Hold your horses lol..

Anderson may actually end up playing and Woakes-Archer are likely to be back for the Headingley game. It's going to be really awkward for the likes of you to defend England's defeat (well actually India's win) if that happens.

 

[Devadwal]

Hold your horses lol..

Anderson may actually end up playing and Woakes-Archer are likely to be back for the Headingley game. It's going to be really awkward for the likes of you to defend England's defeat (well actually India's win) if that happens.

Archer ruled out for this year (ashes & WT20) due to elbow injury.

 

[MP2011]

Pretty much this!

The match hasn't even started and the usual suspects have already started to cope.

Just like India replaced Jadeja, Shami and umesh , England also have capable replacements for Woakes, Anderson and Archer to beat anyone at home. Broad is washed up so they won't miss him. Anyone who denies this is just way too desperate to downplay a potential Indian series win..

Coping mechanism just in case India wins.

No one uttered a word when we missed so many of our regular players in our home series against England.

 

[MP2011]

A team should be able to win at home, no matter what.

 

[sindhiboy]

Jimmy was bowling again yesterday late evening, so he could be 70% fit. However, playing him in this match could risk a potentially give him a big injury. So he should not play.
Craig Overton has had a really good county season and deserves a test.

The eng test team is a side in transition and only root and stokes have their places locked in engs full strength XI.

Eng need a no 3, they can choose the leading county run scorer, Jake libby. Or they should decide to put Lawrence or root at no 3. They can't stick with Crawley. Lawrence has shown he is adaptable to all conditions, scored in Asia and at home vs nz. So he should be trusted if eng don't want to debut another batsman .

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

No Stokes
No Woakes
No Archer
No Broad

Shame if India doesn't win the series.

 

[wajid]

English replacements are capable but not even close to preferred first choice picks for a consequential game.

No one is taking anything away from Indians . Just observing that English side is depleted. Funny to see Indian fans getting defensive when they are so fond of attaching A B C etc.

I believe Indian team at gabba we’re very capable replacements of first choice players. That’s why that win is even more special. Also remember how much dented Aussies were minus warner and smith

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

The last time some ignorant souls shouted about India beating Australia's B team, Gabba happened.Where we thrashed their best team with a D team
Rest is history.

If India wins this series it will be counted as a great achievement just like how the ashes 05, aus tour of ind 04 and Pak tour of wi 87 were counted as successful ventures despite the opposition missing great players.

 

[redmaverik84]

Englans should get used to this, this is the new normal. How long are they gonna depend on Broad and Anderson, do they have a succession plan in place? Woakes is not a strike bowler, Jofra is gonna have a career like Shoaib, some strong performances followed by injuries, Stokes though will be missed.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The last time some ignorant souls shouted about India beating Australia's B team, Gabba happened.Where we thrashed their best team with a D team
Rest is history.

If India wins this series it will be counted as a great achievement just like how the ashes 05, aus tour of ind 04 and Pak tour of wi 87 were counted as successful ventures despite the opposition missing great players.

I think this will be a BIG win for India if they win.

However this series simply lacks the high profile feeling.

Even 2018 series with Smith and Warner missing felt more high profile.

Just my take. Others might feel differently.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Maybe it feels like that due to rain.

Even WTC final didn't feel like a high profile game.

 

[Ab Fan]

If Anderson plays, England start as slight favourites.

If he doesn't, India start as slight favourites.

 

[Manunited18]

Haseeb is a must for England and I feel he should come in for Dom Sibley who is way to limited as a test bat and actually stagnates the England innings completely.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

The last time some ignorant souls shouted about India beating Australia's B team, Gabba happened.Where we thrashed their best team with a D team
Rest is history.

If India wins this series it will be counted as a great achievement just like how the ashes 05, aus tour of ind 04 and Pak tour of wi 87 were counted as successful ventures despite the opposition missing great players.

-True....
We torched the 'asterix' gang once and for alll...
Moving on for today, i hope Ashwin plays....and they donot go for a 4th pacer....
i just feel its gonna turn on days 3.5 onwards and the spin twins will be a big factor...

I gues they will be playing Ali bhai as jim grump is also under a injury cloud....hope our guys toast him on ice...

go India!

 

[Manunited18]

Come on england

 

[Babar_Azam_fan]

But the target was low as well. England for sure would have made inroads in the Indian batting. India would have limped home with a wicket or two to spare.

But it was against Anderson and co on a rainy 5th day. India sure would have got close to the score. England would have limped home with 30-40 runs to spare.