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The title says it all, England need to rebuild, not just their XI but their entire squad. I can not imagine they will fare any better in Pakistan but at least their next home series should be a key aspect of progressing into the future.

One would hope Archer is fit and ready to play, Wood doesn't fail yet again and that Mahmood is finally selected for a test call up.

Jimmy and Broad may have a swansong but they are not the future and they are not even quite the present.

The biggest issue is the batting, because Burns, Buttler and Bairstow are certainly not test standard. Crawley, Pope, Lawrence...are they any better? Who else is at the prime age in the county circuit? I really can't think of any one that has not already been tried.

Then of course there is the stokes question...is he fit enough, physically and mentally? Does he have his demons under control?
 
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England need to take a leaf out of their ODI book, bring an outsider (like Morgan in ODIs) not bogged down by the monotonous county cricket system into the fold and revamp things around their team with no mercy.

As things stand, this is a team that can't win anywhere away bar Lanka, and probably lose 50% of their series at home.

What's to lose turning things upside down?
 
England need to take a leaf out of their ODI book, bring an outsider (like Morgan in ODIs) not bogged down by the monotonous county cricket system into the fold and revamp things around their team with no mercy.

As things stand, this is a team that can't win anywhere away bar Lanka, and probably lose 50% of their series at home.

What's to lose turning things upside down?

Morgan did not revamp the ODI set up, the ECBs head honchos did post 2015. Morgan in fact played tonnes of LO cricket in the English domestic set up.

Stokes, Buttler, Hales, Roy, Bairstow, Plunkett, Rashid, Ali (and plenty of others) are all either products of, or coming of age within the revamped LO system in England...at the expanse of a county season split across the summer, starting in the cold, early wet months and ending in the cold, late wet months.

The best months of English summer, usually July and August are almost exclusively reserved for the Blast and the The Hundred.

England desperately need their best summer months for the 4-day game, whether that means shortening the county championship, decreasing the number of teams or shortening/combining The Hundred and Blast.
 
England should have test status revoked and just play white ball cricket going forward ;)
 
Good thread.
English Test cricket is on its knees and requires a hard reboot.

<b>Out:</b>
Chris Silverwood
Joe Root (as captain)
Joe Buttler (as keeper)
Jonny Bairstow
Haseeb Hameed
Dom Bess
Jimmy Anderson
Stuart Broad
Chris Woakes on tour (can play at home)

<b>Keep:</b>
Rory Burns (reluctantly)
Ollie Pope (even more reluctantly)
Jos Buttler (as specialist batter)
Jack Leach (needs to be managed better)
Joe Root (batting only)
Dawid Malan

<b>In:</b>
Stokes as captain (reduced bowling duties)
Saqib Mahmood
Mark Wood
Ben Foakes (as keeper-batsman and vice-captain)

<b>Provisional XI:</b>
Burns
?????
Malan
Root
Stokes*
Buttler
Foakes+ [vc]
?????
Mahmood
Wood
Leach

Open to suggestions for a second opener, a reliably good bowler who bats well enough for number eight, and a new coach…
 
Good thread.
English Test cricket is on its knees and requires a hard reboot.

<b>Out:</b>
Chris Silverwood
Joe Root (as captain)
Joe Buttler (as keeper)
Jonny Bairstow
Haseeb Hameed
Dom Bess
Jimmy Anderson
Stuart Broad
Chris Woakes on tour (can play at home)

<b>Keep:</b>
Rory Burns (reluctantly)
Ollie Pope (even more reluctantly)
Jos Buttler (as specialist batter)
Jack Leach (needs to be managed better)
Joe Root (batting only)
Dawid Malan

<b>In:</b>
Stokes as captain (reduced bowling duties)
Saqib Mahmood
Mark Wood
Ben Foakes (as keeper-batsman and vice-captain)

<b>Provisional XI:</b>
Burns
?????
Malan
Root
Stokes*
Buttler
Foakes+ [vc]
?????
Mahmood
Wood
Leach

Open to suggestions for a second opener, a reliably good bowler who bats well enough for number eight, and a new coach…

For 2nd opener, improved version of James Vince or Zack Crawley.
3rd pacer Robinson, Stone or Archer.
Anderson for another 2 years, bye bye to Broad, No to Mahmood.
 
England have fielded 25 Test cricketers in 2021.

Only two of them - Joe Root and Dawid Malan - average more than 30 with the bat this year.
 
Good thread.
English Test cricket is on its knees and requires a hard reboot.

<b>Out:</b>
Chris Silverwood
Joe Root (as captain)
Joe Buttler (as keeper)
Jonny Bairstow
Haseeb Hameed
Dom Bess
Jimmy Anderson
Stuart Broad
Chris Woakes on tour (can play at home)

<b>Keep:</b>
Rory Burns (reluctantly)
Ollie Pope (even more reluctantly)
Jos Buttler (as specialist batter)
Jack Leach (needs to be managed better)
Joe Root (batting only)
Dawid Malan

<b>In:</b>
Stokes as captain (reduced bowling duties)
Saqib Mahmood
Mark Wood
Ben Foakes (as keeper-batsman and vice-captain)

<b>Provisional XI:</b>
Burns
?????
Malan
Root
Stokes*
Buttler
Foakes+ [vc]
?????
Mahmood
Wood
Leach

Open to suggestions for a second opener, a reliably good bowler who bats well enough for number eight, and a new coach…

I agree with most of this post but I'd boot Burns out and also give Parkinson a go over Leach.

England have successfully managed to ditch their defensive mindset in ODIs but still cling onto a fear of trying leg spinners in the test set up.

Mason Crane, Scott Borthwick and Adil Rashid could have all played more test cricket for England.

They cant afford to make the same mistake with Parkinson who unlike the names I mentioned above, also has a stellar FC record.
 
Morgan did not revamp the ODI set up, the ECBs head honchos did post 2015. Morgan in fact played tonnes of LO cricket in the English domestic set up.

Nobody sitting in a boardroom could flick a switch and transform a side overnight which is what Morgan did in a matter of weeks/months in 2015.

Morgan, like Pietersen is an outsider to English cricket in terms of thought process though both used the county system to make their case for national selection. Even back in the day when test specialists like Cook or Strauss were installed as ODI captain, you could see a young Morgan look around in befuddlement/amusement at some of the tactics being used in the field, and he looked so different and refreshing with the bat in hand compared to plodders like Cook and Trott and Bell. He knew what was to be done, and got the opportunity in 2015.
 
this is the price england have paid for focusing on odi cricket. nasser and atherton did a piece on how techniques in county championship have evolved where batsmen stand on middle stump and invariably fish outside off stump a lot.

english cricketers are in massive demand in leagues all over the world, it will take a lot to convince youngsters to spend hours practicing leaving ouside off stump.

alistair cook and matt prior were once in a generation players, replacing them will not be easy. also hate to play the saffer card but england are not gonna get to import talent like kp and trott again anytime soon.

joe root is the only world class test batsmen England have produced in the last 15 years. the only other test class middle order batsmen the England system has produced since 2005 is ian bell. thats two batsmen in 15 years.
 
Interesting thread.
As others have said this has come about as a result of the prioritisation of white ball cricket by the ECB. When Strauss came in it was with a mission to improve performance here and win the World Cup scheduled in England in 2019 (which they did, albeit somewhat fortuitously). Trevor Baylis’s appointment was part of this.
England have been a pretty average Test team for some time and recently lost to India and NZ. To be honest, no one seemed that fussed about this and the ECB kept talking about planning for the Ashes.
The total obsession (both from the media and fans) with the Ashes has highlighted the issue but really apart from occasions at home when Anderson, Broad, Woakes etc have been effective when were England really that strong a test team (particularly away) ?
As those of us living in the U.K. will testify, playing red ball cricket in late April and May is a miserable experience. Then everything stops to pay homage to white ball cricket (and money).
 
this is the price england have paid for focusing on odi cricket. nasser and atherton did a piece on how techniques in county championship have evolved where batsmen stand on middle stump and invariably fish outside off stump a lot.

english cricketers are in massive demand in leagues all over the world, it will take a lot to convince youngsters to spend hours practicing leaving outside off stump.

alistair cook and matt prior were once in a generation players, replacing them will not be easy. also hate to play the saffer card but england are not gonna get to import talent like kp and trott again anytime soon.

joe root is the only world class test batsmen England have produced in the last 15 years. the only other test class middle order batsmen the England system has produced since 2005 is ian bell. thats two batsmen in 15 years.

Batting seems like a bigger issue here. Many wins by Eng came due to Eng packing bowlers who can bat. It helped to win some games, but it can't be substituted for a decent middle/top order.

I am not sure why Eng can't find a few batsmen who can bat and leave balls. I am also not sure about T20 having all this impact. NZ, India, and Aus play enough league/T20, but they don't have the same problem as Eng.
 
I think England need a captain who can build a culture like Morgan has in ODIs. Not sure if Stokes can be that man, he already is coming off a mental-health break and leading a side leads to a lot of stress.

It's not about the players, yes they need to identify few batting talents and persist with them but at the moment they look like a side without a leader. Also I feel captaincy is weighing down Root. Unfortunately he's been given a side that's rebuilding and players coming-in haven't been of international quality either.
 
Interesting thread.
As others have said this has come about as a result of the prioritisation of white ball cricket by the ECB. When Strauss came in it was with a mission to improve performance here and win the World Cup scheduled in England in 2019 (which they did, albeit somewhat fortuitously). Trevor Baylis’s appointment was part of this.
England have been a pretty average Test team for some time and recently lost to India and NZ. To be honest, no one seemed that fussed about this and the ECB kept talking about planning for the Ashes.
The total obsession (both from the media and fans) with the Ashes has highlighted the issue but really apart from occasions at home when Anderson, Broad, Woakes etc have been effective when were England really that strong a test team (particularly away) ?
As those of us living in the U.K. will testify, playing red ball cricket in late April and May is a miserable experience. Then everything stops to pay homage to white ball cricket (and money).

Eng talking about Ashes and preparation should be limited to when Ashes is taking place in Eng.

Most series in Aus get over within 7-8 days of cricket. Make it 3 tests. What's the point of playing 5 tests when one team is so out of depth? In general 5 tests are overkill unless teams are equally matched in
given conditions and that rarely happens. I think in rare cases, have 4 tests, normally results always happen with 4 and if two teams get 2-2 or 1-1 then fair enough, it's not a bad result.

Now imagine what's left in these Ashes? Yes, Aus players will boost their average by slaughtering Eng, but it's extremely boring cricket. The Series is pretty much done within 8-9 days of cricket. It is not about just the result. Some time final scoreline may look one-sided, but matches are competitive, but here Eng is simply out of depth. Only Root's batting makes me tune Eng matches. Bowling is mostly good in Eng and I have seen enough of that.
 
About bowling, I don't think Eng is that bad but looks average when outside Eng.

It was always interesting to see Anderson doing well in India, Ashwin doing well in Aus, Steyn doing well in India, Bumrah/Cummins doing well in so many away series, and so on... I never found it too thrilling to watch Steyn in SA, Ashwin in India, or Anderson in Eng. Doing well in your backyard is expected. Sure, you still need to bowl well, but it's not so interesting to watch.
 
After 2015 humiliation, England changed their focus from Test to T20 and became one of the best T20 sides. They need to shift the focus back because Australia never shifted their focus from Ashes while England's attention was diverted to limited overs cricket
 
<b>Provisional XI:</b>
Burns
?????
Malan
Root
Stokes*
Buttler
Foakes+ [vc]
?????
Mahmood
Wood
Leach

Robinson has done everything right on the field.

Stone.

Buttler did very little as a test batter and should play LO only.

I would be reluctant to load up Stokes with captaincy as his mental health issues may return.
 
England need to focus on building a cohesive bowling unit that works together and each bowler has his role.
 
The problem with England's bowling is there in that they have too many 130 kph plodders

It's all one dimensional thats where you either need a wood , archer or stone to give some pace and variation someone who attacks the stumps with real pace .

Spin wise England are really missing a quality spinner in class of Lyon and there doesn't seem to be any in first class cricket that look like they can step up at test level.
 
Nobody sitting in a boardroom could flick a switch and transform a side overnight which is what Morgan did in a matter of weeks/months in 2015.

Morgan, like Pietersen is an outsider to English cricket in terms of thought process though both used the county system to make their case for national selection. Even back in the day when test specialists like Cook or Strauss were installed as ODI captain, you could see a young Morgan look around in befuddlement/amusement at some of the tactics being used in the field, and he looked so different and refreshing with the bat in hand compared to plodders like Cook and Trott and Bell. He knew what was to be done, and got the opportunity in 2015.

This shows a complete lack of understanding of what happened in that period.

The ECB set up entire coaching staff based around power hitting (some of which was already in place pre-2015, as evidenced by an old segment on Sky focusing on a young Ben Stokes and Jos Buttler standing in the nets and programming bowling machines to bowl yorkers, with the aim to hit the yorker for 6), this was to capitilise on the increasingly flat pitches in global ODI cricket, as well as ever decreasing boundary sizes. Morgan does not have the resource or power to implement any of that.

Is Morgan an exceptional captain? Yes but it's not his tactics which win games on their own. It's not exactly rocket science to know if you have a batting unit as monstrous as England (especially as monstrous as they were from 2015-17, just check the number of 300+ scores they hit) that a score of 300+ is going to win you the game more often than not.

It is also important to note the ECBs' ODI squad selections, they were more likely to go with non-white players, two of which have become the pillars on which so much of England's ODI cricket has been built, namely Ali and Rashid.

I twas also the ECB which switched up the County Championship so it took place in the worst part of the english summer, while the T20 Blast and the RL Cup took place in the best parts of the summer, now throw in The HUndred. Again, Morgan does not have the power or resources to pull that off.

I think you're confusing captaincy with a complete revamp of the English cricketing summer over the last near decade, in the bid for a world cup win.
 
Robinson has done everything right on the field.

Stone.

Buttler did very little as a test batter and should play LO only.

I would be reluctant to load up Stokes with captaincy as his mental health issues may return.

Yes, Butler's days should be numbered and Robinson as a bowler is pretty good but he is basically Jimmy 2.0 but several levels inferior. Englad need some pace bowlers. Mahmood and Archer can provide that, may be Wood. They also need a world class spinner, Leach, Bess and co are pedestrian in most cases.

England need to focus on building a cohesive bowling unit that works together and each bowler has his role.

Good point, they also need variety. Right handed dibbly dobblers aren't going to get you 20 wickets outside of Eng and possibly NZ.
 
Good thread.
English Test cricket is on its knees and requires a hard reboot.

<b>Out:</b>
Chris Silverwood
Joe Root (as captain)
Joe Buttler (as keeper)
Jonny Bairstow
Haseeb Hameed
Dom Bess
Jimmy Anderson
Stuart Broad
Chris Woakes on tour (can play at home)

<b>Keep:</b>
Rory Burns (reluctantly)
Ollie Pope (even more reluctantly)
Jos Buttler (as specialist batter)
Jack Leach (needs to be managed better)
Joe Root (batting only)
Dawid Malan

<b>In:</b>
Stokes as captain (reduced bowling duties)
Saqib Mahmood
Mark Wood
Ben Foakes (as keeper-batsman and vice-captain)

<b>Provisional XI:</b>
Burns
?????
Malan
Root
Stokes*
Buttler
Foakes+ [vc]
?????
Mahmood
Wood
Leach

Open to suggestions for a second opener, a reliably good bowler who bats well enough for number eight, and a new coach…

Harsh on Dom Bess. Think he's a very good player. Eng's management doesn't show enough confidence in him.

I'd expect them to still be competitive at home.

Eng just don't do well in away Ashes.
 
Sometimes you just need to do simplest of stuff to try and solve the problems. Apart from Root and Malan, no one is doing anything in the lineup. Stokes is still a guaranteed pick when available.

Maybe they just need to look at the stats of the top run scorers in county and pick them. Whoever they are(excluding oversees guys obviously) can't really do worse than the current lineup barring Root and Malan.
 
Yes, Butler's days should be numbered and Robinson as a bowler is pretty good but he is basically Jimmy 2.0 but several levels inferior. Englad need some pace bowlers. Mahmood and Archer can provide that, may be Wood. They also need a world class spinner, Leach, Bess and co are pedestrian in most cases.

Good point, they also need variety. Right handed dibbly dobblers aren't going to get you 20 wickets outside of Eng and possibly NZ.

Robinson isn’t Jimmy 2.0, he is more like Fraser 2.0 with the high action, lift off the pitch and ‘heavy’ ball. Except he can swing it too.

Leach averages four wickets per test so he does his job. Bess is just a County player whose face fits.

Dibblies don’t even work in NZ now as climate change has kicked in.
 
Harsh on Dom Bess. Think he's a very good player. Eng's management doesn't show enough confidence in him.

I'd expect them to still be competitive at home.

Eng just don't do well in away Ashes.

They haven't done well this home season either and the batting has looked fragile for far too long now.
 
A rebuild certainly needed given these batting figures for England’s Test side in 2021….

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50 ducks in Test matches for England this year:

6 Burns
4 Lawrence, Sibley, Bairstow, Hameed, Anderson and Robinson
3 Broad and Sam Curran
2 Buttler, Crawley, Archer and Bracey
1 Root, Leach, Stone, Wood, Moeen and Bess
 
50 ducks in Test matches for England this year:

6 Burns
4 Lawrence, Sibley, Bairstow, Hameed, Anderson and Robinson
3 Broad and Sam Curran
2 Buttler, Crawley, Archer and Bracey
1 Root, Leach, Stone, Wood, Moeen and Bess

Acutely embarrassing to be honest!
 
The starting point is to get rid of Broad and Anderson. Great servants but look lost outside England. Give Crawley as long as he needs and move Malan to the top for the short term. Move Stokes back to 6, and bring in WK bat, maybe Foakes.
 
The starting point is to get rid of Broad and Anderson. Great servants but look lost outside England. Give Crawley as long as he needs and move Malan to the top for the short term. Move Stokes back to 6, and bring in WK bat, maybe Foakes.

100%. This is the starting point. Problem is - not a lot around that is better.
 
100%. This is the starting point. Problem is - not a lot around that is better.

I am not overly concerned about the bowling stocks. There is plenty to choose from there. The (big) issue is the batting.
 
England have faced the two best Attacks in world cricket in the last 6 months or may be3 if you put kiwis in to that category. The bats have had no practice games whilst in secure bubbles and it's tough! I'm certain when England play lesser opposition come next few months then the younger players will be able to build confidence and their each respective games
 
England have faced the two best Attacks in world cricket in the last 6 months or may be3 if you put kiwis in to that category. The bats have had no practice games whilst in secure bubbles and it's tough! I'm certain when England play lesser opposition come next few months then the younger players will be able to build confidence and their each respective games

That is a fair observation.
 
While England's red ball domestic structure used to be famous around the world for its quality, learning and number of top overseas cricketers playing in it, its definitely not the case anymore.

- With England focus shifting towards whiteball cricket the shortcomings of their current red ball setup became much more glaring

- There are just two ways to produce test level cricketers, one is to have a pipeline of quality red ball cricketers in 2nd XI and club level which England sometimes did have in different periods (Before the whiteball revolution) or you get guys with decent raw skills and domestic structure polishes them upto the test level.

- With 18 county teams and now with no quality overseas players regularly playing the quality of red ball domestic setup was obviously going to decline taking away that option of developing cricketers with raw skills upto the test level and with whiteball revolution even at junior level that pipeline of red ball cricketers declined hugely. Combined effect was England doesn't have many quality test products available currently, the ones which are there are not being developed properly

Solution might be to do what Pakistan has done and swallow the pill of either restructuring the domestic structure (Atleast from the red ball prospective) and making it more quality focused or keep it as it is and add another 6-8 teams competition where top cricketers are divided into teams and they play against each other.

A large number of teams not only impact the quality of cricketer rather also impact the quality of pitches, curators, coaches, facilities etc. as putting in all the good resources in limited number of teams is much easier rather than finding so many resources for 18 or so teams where the quality of even these supporting things is naturally going to decline.

People can question how India has been so successful with so many domestic teams, answer is pretty simple and that is with the post 2000s and IPL revolution Indian cricket has a strong pipeline base (Players, coaches, academies etc), investment in most regions so they are getting decent quality form that pipeline itself. Even with some teams not being as competitive in Indian domestic structure, the pipeline flow has enough quality coming through and thus test quality players can be found and can individually be invested upon with the A tours, camps, Duleep trophy etc. Not every country can have as much of cricket players base as India has due to its population as well as the investment in the structure so other teams have to make their comparatively limited base to compete in a highly competitive structure to produce those test quality products and to make the ones they have reach their full potential.
 
50 ducks in Test matches for England this year:

6 Burns
4 Lawrence, Sibley, Bairstow, Hameed, Anderson and Robinson
3 Broad and Sam Curran
2 Buttler, Crawley, Archer and Bracey
1 Root, Leach, Stone, Wood, Moeen and Bess

Sounds like quite a duck farm that has been created. This team is as worse then englands late 1990s team.
 
England’s latest batting collapse in Australia follows on from a series of below average scores from the men’s Test team in the past year. Statistics show the top order fairs poorly compared with other countries, and well adrift of their six main rivals.

Here we take a look at the stats which highlight how poor England’s batters have been since Joe Root was named Test captain in February 2017.

30.32

Root has averaged 47.66 since being named captain. England’s other top six batters have averaged 30.32.


50 (52 now)

The total number of ducks by England batters in 2021 is 50. The next highest figure this century is 33. In total, 17.2% of England innings in 2021 have ended without scoring. There has only ever been one other year with more than 33 England ducks: 1998, when there were 54 (17.1% of all innings).

24.80

Average runs scored by England batters in 2021.

0

Previous years this century when England have averaged less than 25 runs per wicket. Over the last hundred years it happened in 1999, 1950 and 1922 (when there was only one Test).


74
Total number of Test batters over the last 10 years with a batting average above 40

2
Total number of England batters over the last 10 years with a batting average above 40 (Root and Cook). There are 11 from each of Australia and Pakistan, 10 Indians, eight Bangladeshis, seven from New Zealand and South Africa, six Sri Lankans and five from the West Indies.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...land-cricket-batting-collapse-australia-ashes
 
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Opener 1
Opener 2
No.3 Bat
Root
Stokes
Pope/Buttler
Foakes
Woakes
Archer/Wood
Broad/Anderson
Leach


This should be a good template to build on. Finding those top 3 is going to be vital though, their batting failure is purely down to top 3 not even sticking out there for 20+ overs.
 
Selections are not the issue. England's selectors have tried every approach from picking proven domestic runscorers to picking youngsters on potential, and neither has worked.

I maintain the strength of a Test nation is a reflection of the strength of their domestic cricket.

What we're seeing is a product of ECB's marginalisation and neglect of County Cricket which has been pushed to the margins of the season. There's too many FC matches in April, May and September when the Dukes ball hoops around corners making it very difficult for batsmen to occupy the crease for long periods.

A 75-80mph seamer dobs it on a length and let conditions do the work. Such conditions don't encourage genuine quicks or spinners, so young English batsmen are simply not prepared for the variety of conditions and bowlers in international cricket.

Paul Farbrace also makes an interesting point. English coaches for years were accused of overcoaching and micromanaging leading the ECB to order a more hands-off approach and let players figure their own game out. That's another reason why many English batsmen have glaring technical flaws.

I also think 18 FC counties are too many but that's probably another debate.
 
t’s vaguely amusing to recall now that for much of the year, the very existence of this Ashes series was the subject of fraught, board-level speculation. Tense negotiations were conducted between Cricket Australia and their counterparts in England. State governments, federal government, public health experts and players all had to bestow their approval. Would the 2021-22 Ashes happen at all?

Well, as it turned out, not really. Around 850 overs separated the dismissal of Rory Burns on the first morning in Brisbane and the dismissal of Jimmy Anderson on the third morning in Melbourne: the series decided in a little over nine days of cricket. And so as the victorious Australians celebrated wildly on the MCG outfield, it was possible to wonder whether they were overdoing things a touch. Was there any real satisfaction to be taken in despatching an opponent this easily? Did it not all feel a little hollow? A little comfortable? A little embarrassing?

But then perhaps we are guilty here of reducing the contest as a whole to England’s desiccated level. After all, to play Test cricket for Australia in 2021 still essentially means something. Winning Test matches for Australia still means something. The Ashes still means something, and not just as a rivalry or as a commercial concern but as a basic test of sporting ultimacy, a seeker of truth, a gauge of character.

Nobody exemplified this better than Scott Boland, the country’s newest cricketing hero after taking six for seven on debut. Boland is a fine bowler and a lovely story to boot, but he will be the first to admit that none of this really made sense. Never again will he enjoy the serendipity of being able to face this opposition, on this ground, at this point in their sporting trajectory. All he really had to do was turn up on time, put his socks on and not get no-balled for throwing. And yet in running in hard and doing his best, Boland accorded this contest a measure of respect that England had long since mislaid.

What does it mean to play Test cricket for England in 2021? This is a more contested question. England have issued caps to 25 players this calendar year, from Jofra Archer to James Bracey, Dan Lawrence to Dom Bess, and it has long become impossible to discern who deserves what. Somewhere amid the bubbles and the brain-fades, the revamps and the rotations, the very point of the England Test team has become somehow blunted, dissolved, obscured. None of this makes it inevitable that you will get rolled over for 68 in bright sunshine. But it certainly doesn’t help.

A thought exercise: if you had to reselect an England squad for this Ashes tour, knowing what we do now, would it have been possible to do anything differently? Maybe you send out a distress flare to Dom Sibley or Liam Livingstone or even Darren Stevens. Maybe you decide not to rush a half-paced Ben Stokes back from injury. But the raw materials of this team do not fundamentally change. This is what there is. Instinctively, we want to believe that there are 11 cricketers in England capable of collectively scoring more than 68 in a completed Test innings. But maybe there aren’t.

This is, after all, a game England have been playing for a while. It’s tempting to regard this as a nadir, but England were all out for 67 five Ashes Tests ago. Before that there was the 85 against Ireland, the 58 against New Zealand, eight wickets for Roston Chase, 10 wickets in a session against Bangladesh. Every time lessons were learned, approaches were altered, decks were shuffled, and the same thing happened again. Nobody gets to act surprised at any of this.

Naturally, there is a certain sense of climax here. Joe Root and Chris Silverwood will probably pay for this latest debacle with their jobs. Silverwood is clearly a capable coach, but something about this team and this moment appears to have detached him from reality, like a waiter in a restaurant talking you through the specials while the kitchen slowly catches fire behind him. Root is approaching five years as captain and either there’s nothing more he can do, or he’s actually making things worse. Either way, best to move on and concentrate on the one skill in which he genuinely has a claim to greatness.

And yet, what is the wider aim here? Where is the institutional will to turn this team around? Will it really come from the England and Wales Cricket Board, which derives the vast majority of its revenue from selling home Tests and short-form cricket to punters and broadcasters? Producing Test teams that win big overseas series may be very nice, but it doesn’t keep the tills ringing. Staging a high-quality County Championship at the height of summer may produce better cricketers, but it won’t keep the bonuses flowing.

Besides, if you think about it, England really has no divine right to be good at this. It is by no means inevitable that England will be good at Test cricket again. This isn’t Pakistan or India. The game does not live and breathe in our streets or our public spaces or our school system. History and tradition aside, cricket does not flow through the national bloodstream any more than judo or surfing or esports.

Perhaps a close parallel is with the West Indies around the turn of the century: powered by one of its greatest batsmen (for Brian Lara, read Joe Root) and two of its greatest bowlers (for Ambrose and Walsh, read Anderson and Broad), and yet infected with a basic, complacent decadence. Over time they would recover their dignity. They would be competitive. They would occasionally even win. But their true calling –driven largely by commerce and circumstance – would be to produce brilliant short-form cricketers for the global marketplace. As for Test cricket, the sun had already set and risen somewhere else.

In the short term, of course, England have no greater objective than to summon the basic species pride to make the last two Tests vaguely competitive. We’re not even talking a win here. A century, a partnership, even a fifth day would feel worthwhile at this point. In the longer term, meanwhile, there are broader existential questions to be answered. What is this team for? What does it want to be? Why should people care about it? English cricket has spent years labouring under its many delusions. The greatest of all would be to assume that this is as bad as it gets.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-good-at-test-cricket-again-cricket-australia
 
England need to take a leaf out of their ODI book, bring an outsider (like Morgan in ODIs) not bogged down by the monotonous county cricket system into the fold and revamp things around their team with no mercy.

As things stand, this is a team that can't win anywhere away bar Lanka, and probably lose 50% of their series at home.

What's to lose turning things upside down?

Morgan wasn’t an instant hit with England ODI team, remember England was knocked out of the WC group stages in 2015 while Morgan was captain.

The success behind Morgan was more to do with statistical analysis than his leadership.

Even in 2019, England didn’t beat NZ score, they won the WC on a technicality.
 
The game is done and dusted in the uk. Just something for middle englanders to hold onto. With rising inflation and people finding it hard to get by it will become even harder to find tough resilient cricketers.

The only way is to make it a universal game like football or as close as possible. Otherwise expect English test cricket to receive many such wake up calls.
 
The game is done and dusted in the uk. Just something for middle englanders to hold onto. With rising inflation and people finding it hard to get by it will become even harder to find tough resilient cricketers.

The only way is to make it a universal game like football or as close as possible. Otherwise expect English test cricket to receive many such wake up calls.

You make no sense. What has rising inflation got to do with finding tough resilient cricketers?

Why isn’t football suffering with rising inflation if inflation is a problem?

Economic inflation has sod all to to do with finding Test cricketers when football seems to be fine in the same inflationary period.
 
When I first started watching cricket fans around the world would talk about how good the winners were and the players on the losing team were thanked for their efforts and they would move into the background and try to work out how they could become winners.

Today supporters of cricket watch a match or read a scorecard and then ignore the efforts of the winners and just belittle the losers. They even belittle the winners by claiming that the opposition is so weak that beating them means nothing.

Cricket fans seem only to want to run down players.
 
england need to find some solid openers first things first, in their period of dominance they had players like strauss , cook who could set the tone from the top, Nowadays too much is being asked of root and the middle order, pretty much every game they come in within first 10 overs nd already have a difficult task, you can have the best number 3/4 in the world but if they are coming in at 5-1 , 10-2 more often then not then they will also struggle as a lot will be put on their shoulders.

Whether we want to believe it or not test cricket is a dying format for england , they seem to have given up on it with hundred pushing the county fixtures into the wilderness even more , ipl and other leagues are given preference to tours and players encouraged to skip , players are left to their own devices to figure out their own games once they get to the international stage,

england tried so hard at being the best at the newer formats they forgot about the traditional game. At present they are better of trying to reinvent the tactics in test matches and go gung ho from the start rather than finding some solid test batsmen. Once anderson and broad retire they are going to have a owling problem too.
 
BBC:

England's heavy defeat has led to questions about the domestic structure and whether it is preparing players properly for Test cricket.

James Anderson, who plays county cricket for Lancashire, said he hoped the balance between red and white-ball cricket would be redressed.

"There has been a huge [change of] direction with white-ball cricket and I think that, at the minute, it's tipped slightly towards white ball," Anderson said.

"If you look at our performances in Test cricket over the last few years, they've been pretty inconsistent.

"So, from that point of view we can hopefully just redress that balance a little bit."

— — —
 
Once the dust settles from the ashes debacle i think England can have a successful 2022. West Indies, south africa will not offer the stern tests kiwis, India, Australia who England will not have to face in 2022. Obviously it will help with focus more on Red ball cricket in the domestic game and I feel England will be competitive again.
 
BBC:

England's heavy defeat has led to questions about the domestic structure and whether it is preparing players properly for Test cricket.

James Anderson, who plays county cricket for Lancashire, said he hoped the balance between red and white-ball cricket would be redressed.

"There has been a huge [change of] direction with white-ball cricket and I think that, at the minute, it's tipped slightly towards white ball," Anderson said.

"If you look at our performances in Test cricket over the last few years, they've been pretty inconsistent.

"So, from that point of view we can hopefully just redress that balance a little bit."

— — —

England win more matches when Anderson is not playing.

In the last 5 years England have played 60 tests winning 27 losing 25.

In the last 5 years Anderson has played in 46 tests with England winning 19 losing 21.

8 of their test wins (Australia 2, S Africa 2, West Indies 1, Sri Lanka 2, Ireland 1) happened without Anderson who has not played in the only wins England have against Australia.

Something is wrong when your team plays better without the best bowler.
 
England win more matches when Anderson is not playing.

In the last 5 years England have played 60 tests winning 27 losing 25.

In the last 5 years Anderson has played in 46 tests with England winning 19 losing 21.

8 of their test wins (Australia 2, S Africa 2, West Indies 1, Sri Lanka 2, Ireland 1) happened without Anderson who has not played in the only wins England have against Australia.

Something is wrong when your team plays better without the best bowler.

That difference is not statistically significant, it's just random noise. A couple of Tests either way, especially if the converse involves wins against the likes of the West Indies, Sri Lanka and Ireland, doesn't suggest anything except drilling down a conveniently hyperbolic narrative.

The only thing those numbers show is that England is a painfully average Test team, with or without Anderson.
 
Record-equalling losses

No team has ever lost more Tests in a calendar year than the nine defeats suffered by England in 2021.

In what seems like a different cricketing universe, England began the year with three wins - two in Sri Lanka followed by a stunning triumph in the first Test in India, just the second Test victory by a visiting team there since 2012.

That was also England's sixth successive away victory, a feat not achieved by them since Sydney Barnes was in his wily pomp before World War One.

England have added one win and nine losses in their 12 Tests since, equalling Bangladesh's nine Test defeats in 2013.

Only once have England lost more than nine in a 12-Test sequence, losing 10 in 12 between January 1993 and March 1994.

Unfulfilled promise

England have been bowled out for under 150 a joint-record eight times this year.

Over the previous 18 months, a new generation of batting talent seemed to have emerged.

Dom Sibley had made two centuries in his first eight Tests. Ollie Pope apparently had the breakthrough Test winter in 2019-20 that his prodigious county numbers promised. Zak Crawley built on some promising half-centuries with a majestic, multifaceted 267 against Pakistan.

In addition, Jos Buttler had had a productive home summer, Ben Stokes had averaged mid-50s over his previous 16 Tests, and Rory Burns added a century in New Zealand to his 390-run tally in the 2019 Ashes - more than Alastair Cook had managed in any of his three home series against Australia.

England had started scoring 400 again - seven times in 14 Tests up to and including their win in Chennai, having done so just once in their previous 23.

County cricket was even being congratulated for generating players who could take England forward with confidence into the challenges of an absurdly demanding year.

Since then, England have been dismissed for under 200 in 13 innings across 12 Tests (only West Indies in 2000 have been bowled out for under 200 more times in a calendar year).

England have also been bowled out for under 150 in eight innings (equalling the most in a year by a team). They have passed 400 only once, at Headingley, having skittled India for 78.

Even allowing for the quality of the three bowling attacks that have inflicted these failures - all possess balance, variety and firepower that England cannot match - and the abysmal quality of the pitches in India that precipitated this collapse in England's batting, it has been a year of startling, concerning failure, especially given the promise with which it began.

Amid the almost nostalgically familiar post-mortems, it is also a little galling to consider that the two centurions in the Ashes so far - Marnus Labuschagne and Travis Head - as well as the top scorer in the third Test at the MCG - Marcus Harris - have benefited from stints in the much-maligned County Championship.

Failure to convert

England batters reached 25 runs 91 times in 2021. Root converted 10 of his 18 into half-centuries, including six three-figure scores. The rest made 22 fifties from 73 scores of 25, with just one hundred - Burns against New Zealand.

The quarter-century is not one of cricket's more celebrated milestones. In times such as these, however, let us grasp at whatever straws present themselves. Perhaps a raise of the bat to waist height would be an appropriate gesture on reaching 25, to give England supporters at least something to cheer in this honours-board-avoiding Ashes.

England's quarter-to-half-century conversion rate of 35% is the worst by any team other than Bangladesh in their hapless early forays in Test cricket since 1999. No team that has played 10 Tests in a year has ever had a worse 25-to-50 conversion rate than England in 2021.

Root stands alone

3. Joe Root (Eng, 2021) - 1,708; 4. Graeme Smith (SA, 2008) - 1,656; 5. Michael Clarke (Aus, 2012) - 1,595
Joe Root is the only England player who has averaged more with the bat in 2021 than 2020.

Root finished his stellar individual year with 1,708 runs, 3.22 times as many as England's next top scorer, Burns, and an unprecedented margin of superiority by a Test batter over his next most productive team-mate in a calendar year.

Burns' own average declined only slightly, from a moderate 28 to an unspectacular 27, but most others have slumped dramatically - Sibley from 47 to 19, Crawley from 52 to 10, Stokes from 58 to 21, Pope from 43 to 21, Buttler from 38 to 25.

It has been, by a smorgasbord of metrics, one of England's worst batting years - possibly their worst.

And a couple of quickfire stats to take you into the new and, hopefully from an England Test perspective, better year...

England still have only two players who have posted half-centuries in this Ashes.

To update a stat from last week's piece, it is only the fifth time in Test history, and the second in the Ashes, that a team have had fewer than three half-centurions after the first three Tests of a series - Root and Dawid Malan remaining the only two to pass 50.

Only three of England's 15 Tests this year did not feature a duck by one of their openers.

England's openers finished with a collective tally of 14 ducks in 2021, a record by a frankly humiliating margin.

Over the previous 10 years of Test cricket, England's openers blobbed out 27 times in 121 matches, an average of one opener-duck per 4.5 Tests.

BBC
 
So, let's establish a couple of hard facts:

1) Given the power and tradition that the counties still hold, the 18 team county system is going nowhere.
2) White ball cricket still remains the main breadwinner for both counties and the ECB, so that's not too moving from the summer either.

Thus, the only way to strengthen the England domestic scene, would be to turn the clock all the way back to the seventies.

The ECB should once again allow teams to field up to four foreign players. There should be a threshold for the type of player coming in (I.e. somebody from the top 10 nations that already capped at test level, with the odd loophole for amazing domestic performers from other countries)

Further, the County system needs to start late and finish early, to allow for more cricket in the summer months. They should do this even if county matches happen concurrently with white ball cricket. It'll allow/develop specialists in both formats. Yes, there will challenges logistically, scheduling wise and player remuneration wise, but standards in batting/bowling will not improve unless you have a better quality of player playing at the correct time of year in the County Championship.

The discarded local players from the County set up will bring about the whole local/foreign debate, but it surely will help raise the standards of county cricket. Just my two cents.
 
A first-class competition modelled on the Hundred can help the English Test side "return to its former glories", reckons ex-skipper Kevin Pietersen. Pietersen, who won the Ashes in 2005, 2009, 2010-11 and 2013, said the existing County Championship has lost its sheen and is "not fit to serve the Test team" in its current form. "With the money elsewhere in the game, the (County) Championship in its current form is not fit to serve the Test team," Pietersen wrote in a blog.

"The best players don't want to play in it, so young English players aren't learning from other greats like I did. Batters are being dismissed by average bowlers on poor wickets and the whole thing is spiralling."

The 41-year-old praised the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) for its professional franchise-based 100-ball cricket tournament - - The Hundred.

"In The Hundred, the ECB have actually produced a competition with some sort of value. It is the best against the best, marketed properly, and the audience engaged with it.

"They got new people to the games and I can tell you that the players will have improved markedly for featuring alongside other greats. It's such a valuable experience."

He advised the board to come up with a similar tournament for the red-ball format, adding that the English players would benefit rubbing shoulders with top overseas players.

"They now need to introduce a similar franchise competition for red-ball cricket, whereby the best play against the best every single week.

"They would make money available to attract some of the best overseas players in the world and the top English players would benefit from playing alongside them.

"It would be a marketable, exciting competition, which would drive improvement in the standard and get people back through the gates for long-form cricket." He proposed an eight-team round-robin league where pitches encourage strong batting technique.

"The pitches are monitored by the ECB so that we're not seeing majorly bowler-friendly conditions like we do now.

"We have to have good pitches that reward and encourage strong batting techniques, batting for long periods of time, and that require skill from bowlers to take wickets." Pietersen added that the county system can work as the "feeder system" where players are developed until they're ready to step up.

"I can promise you that the current England team and lots of the best youngsters in the system still see Test cricket, in particular Ashes cricket, as the pinnacle.

"But the world's best players are involved in the IPL, the PSL, the Big Bash, The Hundred, and so on, so it's no good denying them the chance to make their millions anymore, as I was back in the day.

"We need to produce lucrative, high-quality, interesting competitions that reward and improve the best players. This could be one," he wrote.

England are currently 0-3 down in the Ashes.

"There is no point blaming Joe Root for what's happened in Australia. He's the only class batter in that team and has been tasked with leading an under-prepared, low-quality team into an Ashes series. It was a hopeless task.

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"Things aren't going to change by plucking the next batter from county cricket and sticking him up to open the batting. It's failed too many times now.

"This franchise competition would be a fantastic opportunity to improve the standard of red-ball cricket, make domestic cricket interesting to the masses again and It is the only way for the ECB to show that they value Test cricket and value the paying customer." PTI

https://sports.ndtv.com/the-ashes-2...posal-to-save-test-cricket-in-england-2682820
 
Alastair Cook Pins Responsibility on ECB to Change England's Test Fortunes
As England find themselves 3-0 down with two games remaining in the ongoing Ashes series in Australia, former captain and legendary batter Alastair Cook has put the blame on the think-tank of the team’s cricket board.

While the popular opinion is that head coach Chris Silverwood and captain Joe Root’s tactics are responsible for the poor display in Ashes, Cook feels that it is the responsibility of England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) director Ashley Giles to turn England’s fortunes in Test cricket.

Silverwood, also the selector, has faced his share of criticism for not picking players according to the conditions. However, Cook believes that it is unfair to make Silverwood the scapegoat.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...to-change-englands-test-fortunes-4618310.html
 
Priorities, timing of tournaments need to be looked at ahead of team changes.

If you keep the same priorities it doesn't matter which players you bring in - they will mostly be average.
 
<b>Ashley Giles is standing down as Managing Director, England Men’s Cricket.</b>

Ashley is leaving after three years in the role during which England Men became 50-over World Champions and are currently ranked the world’s best T20I side, 2nd in ODIs and 4th for Tests.

Sir Andrew Strauss has agreed to step into the role on an interim basis and will put in place arrangements for the forthcoming West Indies Tour, while the search begins for a full-time replacement.

Tom Harrison, ECB Chief Executive Officer, said: “I’m extremely grateful to Ashley for his commitment and contribution to England men’s cricket over the last three years.

“Under his leadership the teams have scored some notable results, most memorably the dramatic victory in the 2019 ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup, while dealing with some of the most challenging times English cricket has ever been through.

“He’s highly respected throughout the game and has made a huge contribution to the ECB and England Men’s cricket.

“Off the back of a disappointing men’s Ashes this winter we must ensure we put in place the conditions across our game to enable our Test team to succeed.”

Ashley Giles said: “I’d like to thank everyone for the support they’ve given me, particularly all the staff and the players, as well as the Board for giving me this opportunity.

“The past couple of years have been incredibly challenging and I’m proud of what we’ve been able to deliver in the toughest of circumstances. This has undoubtedly protected the future of the game in England and Wales.

“Despite these challenges, over the past three years, we have become 50-over World Champions, the top ranked T20I side in the world, we remain 4th ranked Test team and our under 19s have just reached the World Cup final for the first time in 24 years. I wish all our players and staff great success for the future.

“I’m now looking forward to spending some time with my family before looking at the next challenge.”
 
Giles rightly moved aside.

Good to have Strauss back.
 
Good thing that Giles is gone. Now they need to sack Silverwood and Thorpe too and bring back selectors.
 
Good that The King of Spain is gone.

Glad Strausser is back.

Sack Silverwood next.
 
England under Strauss leadership should get back to some form. He led them well as a captain, he has the experience on how to form teams.


Might even stay on longer than Interim.
 
<b>Sir Andrew Strauss says 'incremental' change will not deliver English dominance</b>

Sir Andrew Strauss has warned that English cricket may need more than just incremental change if it wants to produce a quality men's Test team.

Applications to become the new managing director of England cricket opened on Monday but interim boss Strauss says the side will "not become brilliant overnight".

England were beaten 4-0 in their recent Ashes series in Australia.

"The results do not lie," former England captain Strauss told the BBC.

"We have been number one in the world in Test cricket for 12 months in the last 42 years. Small incremental change isn't going to make the difference we need.

"We need to be bold and ambitious."

Strauss left his role as managing director in 2018 following the death of his wife Ruth, but returned to replace his successor Ashley Giles after the fallout from the disappointing Ashes series down under.

Head coach Chris Silverwood was also relieved of his position in February. He was responsible for both the red and white-ball teams, as well as having final say on selection.

Strauss also chaired the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) cricket committee that recommended a full independent review into the domestic English game.

The 45-year-old says time is "ticking" as England look for a new managing director, who will also have the final say on appointing a head coach.

He added: "There is a slight ticking clock in terms of the start of the international summer at the beginning of June and we want to get that person in position.

"It will be their decision around the coach and/or coaches as well, which hopefully will also be in position by the start of the summer, but there is a bit of time pressure for us to make that happen.

"It's going to be his [the new managing director's] team and so he has to look at how he wants to structure the England high performance department. Whether he goes down the single coach or two coach model.

"He has to have the people that he feels can work with him and has a similar philosophy."

Asked who the new managing director may be, and whether they would have to be English, Strauss said: "I've always been uneasy in saying overseas candidates cannot do the role.

"But what a time to get involved. It is very rare you get the opportunity to start with a blank piece of paper and this person is going to have that.

"Despite the doom and gloom around English cricket, there are a lot of good players out there. We are not going to become brilliant overnight but I think we have a lot of the raw ingredients in place."

Strauss, who is currently with the side on their tour of the West Indies, went on to say England should be aiming to dominate all formats of the game.

"While a lot of the focus post-Ashes has been on red-ball cricket and the domestic structure, our project is broader than that," he said.

"Our ambition has to be for us to be the best team in all formats. We have the ability to do that, and in order for that to happen, we have to look at the whole system.

"We have to accept we have never had a system that has produced that.

"Whatever your focus on red-ball cricket, it's like a Rubik's Cube and it affects white-ball cricket. You cannot look at them in isolation, you have to look at them together.

"The game around us have been moving very quickly. Not just our international players, but our domestic players are playing a lot of cricket abroad in the winter and it's time to ask what our role is in all of this.

"How do we protect our own system but also enhance that system?"

England drew the opening Test of their three-match series against West Indies. The second Test begins in Barbados on 16 March.

<b>https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/60741103</b>
 
England interim men's coach Paul Collingwood says he would be interested in a more permanent role with the team.

Collingwood is in charge for the Test series against West Indies after Chris Silverwood left following England's 4-0 Ashes defeat by Australia.

He believes the team is already in a "better, stronger place" under his leadership.

"I've always loved working with England and as long as I can make a difference, I'll be happy," he told BBC Sport.

"It depends on what job is up for offer. We don't know until a managing director comes in. We will have to wait and see."

As well as Silverwood, director of cricket Ashley Giles and assistant coach Graham Thorpe also stepped down following the Ashes series defeat.

Sir Andrew Strauss has temporarily taken over from Giles and the former captain appointed Collingwood for the Three-Test series in the Caribbean.

The first two Tests have ended in almost identical draws, with West Indies batting out the final two sessions on day five- in both matches - to deny England victory and stretch their winless run to seven Test matches.

Despite missing out on victory Collingwood says he has seen signs of improvement as they prepare for the final Test in Grenada, which starts on Thursday.

"The goal for me as interim was to pass the team after this series on in a better, stronger place. And you can see that already," said the former all-rounder.

"They've got more of a responsibility, more of a voice, and they are enjoying that.

"When you get a response and you see the attitude of the boys, you take heart from that. All you want to do is make a difference.

"Hopefully we get a result in the last game. We are here to win. But if you gauge results on effort it doesn't get any better."

BBC
 
<b>Marcus North pulls out of running to be England managing director of men's cricket</b>

Former Australia batter Marcus North has pulled out of the running to be England's new managing director of men's cricket for family reasons.

The 42-year-old, currently Durham's director of cricket, was reportedly among the favourites for the role, along with ex-England batter Rob Key.

The previous incumbent Ashley Giles left in February following England's 4-0 Ashes defeat by Australia.

England have since lost a three-Test series against West Indies 1-0.

They are currently in a state of limbo with the permanent head coach position also vacant.

The new managing director is expected to have the final say on the coach and will also help make a decision on the future of Joe Root as Test captain.

Former captain Sir Andrew Strauss is currently acting as managing director on an interim basis - a role he held full-time between 2015 and 2018.

Strauss said last month he hoped to have both vacancies filled by the first Test of the summer, which starts on 2 June against New Zealand.

England are winless in their past nine Tests, have won one of their past 17 and have lost four Test series in a row.

Key retired in 2015 and currently works as a commentator and pundit.

He played 15 Tests between 2002 and 2005 and had a long career in county cricket with Kent.
 
I’m hearing that the new ECB Director could either be Rob Key (as above) or Ian Bell.
 
I’m hearing that the new ECB Director could either be Rob Key (as above) or Ian Bell.

Bazid Khan was teasing Rob Key during Pak vs Aus tour on commentary, seems like it could be true. I think he would be a good choice.
 
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