"Even if my life goes, I will not leave these thieves alone": PM Imran Khan in address to the nation

[Abdullah719]

"Even if my life goes, I will not leave these thieves alone": PM Imran Khan in address to the nation

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Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday night addressed the nation and vowed to go after the "thieves who left the country badly in debt".

The address followed a noisy budget session in the National Assembly and two major arrests — Leader of the Opposition in the Punjab Assembly Hamza Shehbaz by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and MQM founder Altaf Hussain by London police — earlier in the day. On Monday, former president Asif Ali Zardari was also arrested by NAB.

"Pakistan is stable now. That pressure [to stabilise the economy] has been relieved. Now I will go after them [the corrupt politicians]," declared the prime minister.

"I'm making a high-powered enquiry commission with a one-point agenda: how did they raise the debt to Rs24,000bn in 10 years?"

"All those in power will be fully investigated by this commission which will prepare a report so that no one dare leave the country in tatters ever again."

The premier said he could not be "blackmailed" with protests. "Even if my life goes, I will not leave these thieves alone. I had prayed to God to give me one chance —I will not leave them."

The premier started his address by speaking about Riyasat-i-Madina. "My naya [new] Pakistan will be based on Riyasat-i-Madina. Remember my words: Pakistan will be a great nation.

"They say Riyasat-i-Madina is a 1400-year-old model [...] it was a modern state," he said. "Minorities were part and parcel of the state, everyone was equal in the eyes of the law."

"Ever since we came into power, I hear [the question]: 'where is the new Pakistan?'

"The state of Madina wasn't this way from day one [...] there was a process in turning it into a welfare state."

Turning to the recent arrests of the bigwigs, Prime Minister Imran said: "I am grateful to Allah, the big figures who are now jailed, no one could have imagined.

"The judiciary is free today. The NAB chairman is not ours [...] we didn't appoint anyone. This is the new Pakistan and you will slowly see the independence in institutions.

"The NAB cases are old. I didn't start them. We weren't in power when Panama or the case against Shehbaz Sharif was started.

"So why are they [opposition] raising a hue and cry since day one?

"My mistake is I didn't cave under pressure and give them an NRO [National Reconciliation Ordinance]. The country fell into debt because of two NROs.

"People are crying that Sharif and Zardari have been jailed [...] both of them used to call each other corrupt. Mian Nawaz Sharif jailed Zardari twice during his two tenures.

"The problem we [PTI] are facing is how to run the government — this is the price we are paying for the NROs."

The prime minister added that they [Nawaz and Zardari] came to an agreement that each would rule for five years and "not say anything to each other".

"The debt from Rs6,000bn has ballooned to Rs30,000bn. What happened? Were dams built? What was done in Pakistan? What happened that the debt got out of control?

"These three households saw their wealth rise. After 2008, the debt has risen; the biggest reason was corruption.

"When the debt was increasing, their wealth rose by 85pc.

"A woman who was caught at the airport carrying $500,000, hers and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari's money are being channelled through the same fake account," the premier said. "The leaders of the state were doing all this money laundering, but who would stop who?"

"For 22 years, I was saying our biggest problem is corruption. The people should know what happens when a corrupt leader comes. Their assets are all abroad, their Eids are abroad, their treatment is abroad [...] a three-time prime minister whose sons are sitting abroad are saying we are not citizens [of Pakistan] and are not answerable.

"They didn't make one hospital where the Sharifs could seek treatment."

The address, which was earlier slated for 9:15pm, was moved to 10:30pm but started a little before midnight.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1487597/p...ter-the-thieves-who-put-country-badly-in-debt

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Accountability and justice is good but it’s not everything

 

[Bewal Express]

Accountability and justice is good but it’s not everything

Without them, everything else has a price!

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Without them, everything else has a price!

But there are steps to be taken after and alongside them

 

[Syed1]

But there are steps to be taken after and alongside them

Do listen to the whole 35 minute address... he talked about a whole lot more than just accountability.

 

[Mueez]

Imran Khan is someone who loves his country more than anything imo.



We are lucky to have this guy in Pakistan.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I can understand his frustration and anger. The damage which has been done to Pakistan as a nation due to decades of corrupt leaders is immense. It will take a very strong battling effort to reverse ths but if any leader can it's IK.

They should be stripped of even the shirts on their backs and jailed for life!

 

[Bewal Express]

But there are steps to be taken after and alongside them

Cant disagree, but if the political elite is corrupt and predatory like they are in PK and other countries, the 1st thing you try to sort is the Jutstice system and its also the hardest.

 

[Mamoon]

The problem with this fake accountability drive is that it is selective. For example, the only case in which Nawaz Sharif will never be convicted in is the Asghar Khan case, and that is because two generals with 7 stars between them are involved. For some reason, Imran wants the case closed.

FIA again recommends closure of Asghar Khan case

ISLAMABAD: The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) on Tuesday again recommended the closure of the Asghar Khan case.

In its report submitted to the Supreme Court, the FIA stated that despite every effort, the investigation into the case had failed to yield any results.

The FIA informed the court in the report that 12 politicians linked to the case had passed away and banks had not provided the agency with the details of accounts it had sought despite the passage of a long time.

The FIA further stated that it had gone through the footage of 190 talk shows on the topic of the Asghar Khan case broadcast between 2012 and 2013.

It also reviewed Brigadier (retd) Hamid Saeed Akhtar’s statement but found no details of any transactions in it.

Younus Habib, the central figure in the case, passed away in April this year and the appellant, Asghar Khan, had also died.
The court will hear the case on Wednesday (today).

The FIA had also recommended the closure of the case in April this year but the top court had again rejected its plea.

The court had directed civil and military authorities to initiate action against those individuals who were involved in the rigging of the 1990 elections.

The FIA in its report stated that the inquiry committee interviewed journalists namely Habib Akram and Mujeebur Rehman Shami, other key witnesses Brig (retd) Hamid Saeed Akhtar and Advocate Yousaf Memon, besides conducting scrutiny of the cover accounts.

It reached the conclusion that no sufficient evidence could be found to enable this case for further prosecution and trial in the court of law.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1990368/1-fia-recommends-closure-asghar-khan-case/

Selective and fake accountability is worse than no accountability. This isn't a drive against corruption, this is a drive to solidify the military's stronghold. However, this will not last forever. Imran will one day pay a heavy price and will find himself at the wrong end as well.

 

[Bewal Express]

The problem with this fake accountability drive is that it is selective. For example, the only case in which Nawaz Sharif will never be convicted in is the Asghar Khan case, and that is because two generals with 7 stars between them are involved. For some reason, Imran wants the case closed.



https://tribune.com.pk/story/1990368/1-fia-recommends-closure-asghar-khan-case/

Selective and fake accountability is worse than no accountability. This isn't a drive against corruption, this is a drive to solidify the military's stronghold. However, this will not last forever. Imran will one day pay a heavy price and will find himself at the wrong end as well.

So why did you avoid my question earlier- if the chairman they selected is comprised, why did they fight to avoid getting rid of him? You parroted their line for months and they made mamu out if you, don't you feel like a tool?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Just like he was ready to commit suicide before going to IMF?

PM Khan is the king of u-turns for a reason.

 

[Savak]

Just like he was ready to commit suicide before going to IMF?

PM Khan is the king of u-turns for a reason.

Didn't the opposition criticize him for not going to the IMF from day 1? Would you have preferred he had gone to the IMF for $18 billion or $6 billion?

 

[Salma_T]

A country that has been looted for decades.....where anyone who gets a seat in parliment ends up a millionaire of not a billionaire. In Australia our government after 6 yrs in power (just started 3rd 3 yr term) blamed thr previous government and here you have a country mismanged and looted for decades and expect Imran Khan to wave a magic wand and fix it all!

 

[The_Odd_One]

Didn't the opposition criticize him for not going to the IMF from day 1? Would you have preferred he had gone to the IMF for $18 billion or $6 billion?

I am not opposing the decision to go to IMF. I am criticizing the U-turn he took.

 

[ahmedzee]

Great leader Imran Khan is. These are amazing times for Pakistan. We are jailing all those former corrupt leaders that have looted the nation for ages. Brilliant address to the nation by PM Imran Khan. I can safely say, he is the best PM in the history of Pakistan. You will see more progress in upcoming months.

 

[Bewal Express]

Just like he was ready to commit suicide before going to IMF?

PM Khan is the king of u-turns for a reason.

Why did he need to go to the IMF? I am not well versed in economics,so for a simpleton like me, can you give the economic situation he inherited, and what alternative to the IMF was there?

 

[Savak]

I am not opposing the decision to go to IMF. I am criticizing the U-turn he took.

So a person should stick to his guns on a bad decision and not introspect, adapt and change it if it's a bad decision?

 

[Waseem]

Just like he was ready to commit suicide before going to IMF?

PM Khan is the king of u-turns for a reason.

When talking about billions worth loans, mismanagement, money laundering and corruption by ruling elite, Imran Khan's jalsa address about going to IMF in general terms is least of an issue. BEFORE the election and after assessment of economic situation, he made it clear that going to IMF is definitely an option and will be considered. If next government in 2023 also goes to IMF due to Imran Khan's policies and 5 year rule then he should be heavily criticised. For the moment, any normal person would be lot more worried about corruption, money laundering and other reasons why this government had to go to IMF.

 

[slipcatch]

I am not opposing the decision to go to IMF. I am criticizing the U-turn he took.

You’re criticizing for the sake of criticism.

 

[PakLFC]

I totally believe in IK's patriotism. Problem he has is that there are many corrupt ones n the PTI as well.

 

[WebGuru]

From Saad Rasool:

AH's arrest didn't shut down Karachi.
AZ's arrest didn't rattle Sindh.
MNS/HS arrest didn't consume Punjab.

In fact, nothing happened. Nothing.

This day marks the death of a long-standing myth: that some politicians are indispensable to the functioning our State and its polity.

 

[MenInG]

Go on IK - go after them - Allah nihghayban

 

[Kriketer]

Just like he was ready to commit suicide before going to IMF?

PM Khan is the king of u-turns for a reason.

Guess at the end anti-Imran bandwagoners will be left will only this broken record statement that he takes U-turns.

U-turn for the sake of betterment of country is necessary and good. It's not a game of chess where you can't undo, he's running a bankrupt country and whatever would be necessary from an honest leader should be undertaken. Regardless how his decisions turn out, it will be better than the corrupt leeches we had in the past.

Knowing Imran, he can take as many U-turn, nation is behind him other than frustrated nobodies who love seeing this country in dumps. What he hasn't taken U-turn on is the fact that he's going after all the big choors and dakooz who have sucked every last penny out of Pakistan. Go on Imran, nation is behind you.

 

[Darkrai]

As it should be, these criminals should be held responsible and punished accordingly.

The start to "neya Pakistan" should be to deal with these criminals, who have made a mockery of this country. If you don't get rid of trash first then it will affect the country moving forward. By ridding the country of trash, only then can you start afresh and head in the right direction.

 

[Bewal Express]

From Saad Rasool:

AH's arrest didn't shut down Karachi.
AZ's arrest didn't rattle Sindh.
MNS/HS arrest didn't consume Punjab.

In fact, nothing happened. Nothing.

This day marks the death of a long-standing myth: that some politicians are indispensable to the functioning our State and its polity.

IK has slayed some of these sacred cows. This in itself is a huge change.

 

[Mercurial]

Can't even punish the guilty in the Sahiwal Case (one of the examples), yet he talks about not leaving the thieves alone, lol. If there is no justice for humans in this country, then what's the point of these hollow sermons?

I still don't regret supporting/voting him, he still has time, but so far I am extremely disappointed with his performance, bulldozed almost every revolutionary thing he used to say before election.

 

[shaaik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Time for nation to stop glorifying money launderers who have damaged our nation & impoverished our ppl & now seeking refuge behind "democracy". No protocol shd be extended to them. Where are plunderers of public wealth given such special treatment? Time to treat them as criminals</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1138699295677452289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Mercurial]

Zardari and Nawaz have been rightfully arrested, as both didn't reverse the devastating policies of Musharraf. Altaf have been rightfully arrested as he took up arms against the state. But the biggest culprit of them all, Musharraf, has been untouched, PM IK hasn't even warned going against him. And the alleged culprit, Shahbaz Sharif, in Model Town case is roaming free.

 

[Greenstorm]

10 years of Imran Khan will vastly improve Pakistan's situation. Give him time.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Good to know that he is focused on the primary reason people elected him in the first place.

 

[AdamM97]

Pakistan can't expect to gain regional power if it's own house isn't in order. This is good by IK, cleaning up our country i

 

[USaqaf]

I think it was a good rational speech with feet firmly on the ground.
I felt really bad the cards dealt to him were this bad.
When rich steal from the rich I don't really feel that bad as that's what technically happens even in the stock market, but when they steal from money that would have gone to the poor that's unforgivable,especially if they still haven't counted the billions they looted before.
You think he likes going around to Saudi Arabia UAE etc asking for loans to pay for imports?

I still think India is worse in terms of corruption but it still has enormous overflow to pay for important services and infrastucture and its debt servicing is never compromised.

Pakistan needs to restructure its debt and get its reserves upto at least 100 b$.

 

[Major]

only time will tell what he has done is good or not.

Right now we are celebrating, but lets wait after 10 years atleast.

the chors have been caught, hurray. Now 4 years are left, lets see the changes that he will bring

If he could make the country better, he has my vote, but now is his time to perform

 

[Major]

As it should be, these criminals should be held responsible and punished accordingly.

The start to "neya Pakistan" should be to deal with these criminals, who have made a mockery of this country. If you don't get rid of trash first then it will affect the country moving forward. By ridding the country of trash, only then can you start afresh and head in the right direction.

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

 

[slipcatch]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

Probably nothing yet.

But then why go after any criminal?

 

[Waseem]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

Nothing happens overnight, i actually don't think Pakistan will be able to recover much from them but one thing i can almost guarantee that leaders (at least at top) will think many times before such a massive daylight robbery. Corruption never stops no matter what but using official channels, departments and procedures to launder money at such a large scale is not just corruption but actual ROBBERY.

 

[Darkrai]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

What kind of question is this? Are you seriously suggesting these criminals shouldn't be put behind bars because it doesn't make a difference in your life?

Regardless of whether it makes a difference in your life or not, a criminal is still a criminal-who should be put in a jail.

If criminals aren't punished this cycle of corruption will continue, and the country will never be able to move forward.

This is the reason why Pakistan is where it is, no one thinks about the country, as long as they get the benefits, the country could go down the drain. Perhaps this is why people like Nawaz Sharif are selected.

As i said earlier, this is just the start. The amount of damage done to this country cannot be correct in few months, it will take time.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

How narrow-sighted lol?

You'd rather prefer a 10 rupees price decrease on petrol prices rather than permanent elimination of billions of dollars of wealth stolen across the next 10 years?

Koi sharam hoti hai koi haya hoti hai.

Atleast have some respect for your country.

Looters of Pakistan's wealth getting caught isn't important for you?

 

[WebGuru]

How narrow-sighted lol?

You'd rather prefer a 10 rupees price decrease on petrol prices rather than permanent elimination of billions of dollars of wealth stolen across the next 10 years?

Koi sharam hoti hai koi haya hoti hai.

Atleast have some respect for your country.

Looters of Pakistan's wealth getting caught isn't important for you?

His argument is more like "let's release all the murderers, thieves and criminals from jails because they didn't kill anyone from our family and me and my family didn't suffer because of them so arresting and putting them in prison makes no difference for us..."

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

His argument is more like "let's release all the murderers, thieves and criminals from jails because they didn't kill anyone from our family and me and my family didn't suffer because of them so arresting and putting them in prison makes no difference for us..."

Its honestly disheartening for us overseas Pakistanis who defend Pakistan's actions everywhere and try our best to represent PAK at every level in a respectable way and then get such gems from our countrymen. Individually, we need to work a lot on how we portray ourselves to the world.

 

[WebGuru]

Its honestly disheartening for us overseas Pakistanis who defend Pakistan's actions everywhere and try our best to represent PAK at every level in a respectable way and then get such gems from our countrymen. Individually, we need to work a lot on how we portray ourselves to the world.

True it's gonna take decades to change this mindset.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Also this poor person excuse doesn't cut it for me.

If I'm poor, I'll try my best to work hard, get a job, maybe get educated, save money, build a small business rather than take drugs, alcohol, ghutka, niswar and have 7-8 children on the basis that "Rizq Allah deta hai" and become a beggar and/or start robbing.

Its not like the poor are innocent. You voted on a plate of biryani, now face the consequences.
Being poor doesn't take away your ability to distinguish between right and wrong.

I know all this is much easier said than done but no one signs a certificate of having an easy life before being born. You work with what you've got.

Don't get me wrong, hats off to all those poor hard working individuals like labourers and small rerhi walas who earn a halal salary and educate their kids and are good Muslims.

 

[Bewal Express]

How narrow-sighted lol?

You'd rather prefer a 10 rupees price decrease on petrol prices rather than permanent elimination of billions of dollars of wealth stolen across the next 10 years?

Koi sharam hoti hai koi haya hoti hai.

Atleast have some respect for your country.

Looters of Pakistan's wealth getting caught isn't important for you?

Not if those beneficiaries also threw you a bone.

 

[Bewal Express]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

This is probably the most immoral, worst post on this forum since the forum started.

 

[Kriketer]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

Some serious face palm.

Difference would have been there already in citizen's life had they not stolen country's billions! Who would have benefited if all the looted billions was put into education, healthcare, poverty, social setup, infrastructure, investments etc etc?

 

[PakLFC]

"Even if my life goes" admission by IK suggests his life is under major threat. The "mafia" he keeps talking about are out to get him. He should take his security very seriously.

 

[the Great Khan]

ok the criminals have been dealt with.


What difference has this bought to your life or mine?

Or forget us, what difference has this bought to the poorest person in the country?

Im just asking a question, not taking any political sides here.

it will make a difference. Political changes take time. Structural changes take time. Overcoming corruption takes time. The benefits flowing to the poor and the population take time.

But I see what the issue here is. to get my point across I'll paraphrase a conversation I had with my dad (who i consider a barometer for the pakistani aam aadmi) my dad's conclusion "(and he is a nawaz fan) is that yay qaum phit gay hay. You have been fattened and spoilt by the previous administrations. You have had your subsidies, your "me me" desires have been fed therefore when timesa re hard you say but what about me?"

Now thats his conclusion, I dont subscribe to it totally but I see where he's coming from.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Its honestly disheartening for us overseas Pakistanis who defend Pakistan's actions everywhere and try our best to represent PAK at every level in a respectable way and then get such gems from our countrymen. Individually, we need to work a lot on how we portray ourselves to the world.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check out this gem. Ahh yes who could ever forget the plight of the superior overseas Pakistanis who are the only reason our country hasn’t disintergrated completely

 

[Syed1]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check out this gem. Ahh yes who could ever forget the plight of the superior overseas Pakistanis who are the only reason our country hasn’t disintergrated completely

You also live abroad, paying international fees which runs in the 10s of thousands a semester. Hypocrisy of some people knows no bounds.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

You also live abroad, paying international fees which runs in the 10s of thousands a semester. Hypocrisy of some people knows no bounds.

I agree. I have also been an overseas Pakistani for the past 3 years. Did I deny that?

One clarification though. I am a permanent resident so am not paying international fees. No way I would’ve been able to afford that

 

[Zhasan]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check out this gem. Ahh yes who could ever forget the plight of the superior overseas Pakistanis who are the only reason our country hasn’t disintergrated completely

I would definitely agree with this, without the remittances from overseas Pakistanis, Pakistan would have no money, country would be literally bankrupt and the conditions won't be any different than sub-Saharan Africa.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

I agree. I have also been an overseas Pakistani for the past 3 years. Did I deny that?

One clarification though. I am a permanent resident so am not paying international fees. No way I would’ve been able to afford that

Stop blabbering nonsense then. Ajeeb chawal.

You know nothing about the life Pakistani international students studying in universities abroad.

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Not if those beneficiaries also threw you a bone.

It all adds up if you put it that way.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Stop blabbering nonsense then. Ajeeb chawal.

You know nothing about the life Pakistani international students studying in universities abroad.

I myself am studying abroad and moved there 3 years ago from Pakistan by myself

And I’m the one blabbering nonsense

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I would definitely agree with this, without the remittances from overseas Pakistanis, Pakistan would have no money, country would be literally bankrupt and the conditions won't be any different than sub-Saharan Africa.

How thoughtful

 

[Syed1]

How thoughtful

Can you tell me what is the difference between Pakistan's imports and Pakistan's exports and how that gap is covered? Easy to act like an expert over the internet. So go ahead Google those numbers and be an expert.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

When did I say remittances aren’t important?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Can you tell me what is the difference between Pakistan's imports and Pakistan's exports and how that gap is covered? Easy to act like an expert over the internet. So go ahead Google those numbers and be an expert.

I don’t understand what point of mine you are trying to argue? I am simply pointing out the condescending nature with which many overseas Pakistanis look at Pakistanis living in the county, without understanding the predicaments and situations of a lot of these people. The post I was replying to was a clear example of that.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Remittances that expats send back to Pakistan aren’t nearly enough to make up for the brain drain the country experiences. I am not bashing expats here. As I said, even I have been studying abroad for a few years and currently have no idea whether I will go back or stay abroad for the foreseeable future. But if I do decide to stay abroad, I will not be a hypocrite and say I couldn’t have done better for Pakistan and I certainly won’t judge and be condescending towards actual Pakistanis

 

[Pakistanian]

Remittances that expats send back to Pakistan aren’t nearly enough to make up for the brain drain the country experiences. I am not bashing expats here. As I said, even I have been studying abroad for a few years and currently have no idea whether I will go back or stay abroad for the foreseeable future. But if I do decide to stay abroad, I will not be a hypocrite and say I couldn’t have done better for Pakistan and I certainly won’t judge and be condescending towards actual Pakistanis

Most Pakistanis here come from modest hardworking backgrounds, not from the priveleged class unlike some people in this forum. I feel like if you're from old money or have influential family members then you're part of theproblem. A Bernie Sanders approach is the only solution to these people.

 

[Slog]

I would definitely agree with this, without the remittances from overseas Pakistanis, Pakistan would have no money, country would be literally bankrupt and the conditions won't be any different than sub-Saharan Africa.

This is fanciful and makes no sense.

 

[Slog]

Most of the remittances come from gulf countries

 

[Hadi Rizvi]

Remittances that expats send back to Pakistan aren’t nearly enough to make up for the brain drain the country experiences. I am not bashing expats here. As I said, even I have been studying abroad for a few years and currently have no idea whether I will go back or stay abroad for the foreseeable future. But if I do decide to stay abroad, I will not be a hypocrite and say I couldn’t have done better for Pakistan and I certainly won’t judge and be condescending towards actual Pakistanis

Firstly, you yourself said you didn't pay international fees 'cause you can't afford it then how could you possibly understand our plight?

Secondly, I wasn't condescending, I was just calling him out for a pathetic statement (and I'm not the only one who did that)

How do you expect to behave towards anyone (let alone a Pakistani) who feels he's got no personal gain if the biggest robbers of their country get caught?

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check out this gem. Ahh yes who could ever forget the plight of the superior overseas Pakistanis who are the only reason our country hasn’t disintergrated completely

This is fanciful and makes no sense.

Expats need to feel important. They feel left out and it also bothers them that in order to vote, they have to come to Pakistan and don’t have the comfort of voting online.

In addition, they are also aware of their hypocrisy, so they have to make themselves feel important and valuable by exaggerating the impact and the influence of the money that they send Pakistan for the benefit of their families. It is their coping mechanism.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Pakistan is concentrating too much on corruption and less on competencies. Good competent bureaucrats (even if they are corrupt) are the ones who will run the country not corrupt politicians. Most of Asian countries have progressed despite corruptions. I am not supporting corruption. We certainly need to eliminate that, but more important is to have competent people to run the government. I will give you few very good examples

PV Narasimha Rao was accused of bribing fellow MPs but still considered one of the competent PMs who moved India out of difficult times

TamilNadu ex CM Jayalalitha and Mayavathi from UP. Both are corrupt to the core, but Jayalalitha was also very competent and understood what needs to be done to facilitate state progress

Most of Karnataka state's leaders have been corrupt but they are okay to step away and let competent bureaucrats run the state.

Also look up corruptions in China, Japan, South Korea. They all have progressed despite corruption as they have concentrated on building competency.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan is concentrating too much on corruption and less on competencies. Good competent bureaucrats (even if they are corrupt) are the ones who will run the country not corrupt politicians. Most of Asian countries have progressed despite corruptions. I am not supporting corruption. We certainly need to eliminate that, but more important is to have competent people to run the government. I will give you few very good examples

PV Narasimha Rao was accused of bribing fellow MPs but still considered one of the competent PMs who moved India out of difficult times

TamilNadu ex CM Jayalalitha and Mayavathi from UP. Both are corrupt to the core, but Jayalalitha was also very competent and understood what needs to be done to facilitate state progress

Most of Karnataka state's leaders have been corrupt but they are okay to step away and let competent bureaucrats run the state.

Also look up corruptions in China, Japan, South Korea. They all have progressed despite corruption as they have concentrated on building competency.

Ever thought Pakistan's problems were grotesque corruption and grotesque incompetency combined. If the country was flourishing inspite of corruption it would not even battle that much of an eye lid. Look at the Arab states, rich with oil, grotesquely corrupt rulers but the population was always happy.