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LowkeyP said:
Eat beef. :afridi

lol jk, run. Run for your life and then run some more. Stretch, get the body loose and hit the gym and work up some core strength. I've never played cricket seriously in my life but I'd hazard a guess you need some level of balance and core stability to throw the ball down properly.
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lol i cant eat beef cause of me being hindu and stuff but yea thanks for the recommendation of hitting the gym. i have to. i really have poor upper body strength!
 
LowkeyP said:
What level of cricket do you play btw?
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as of now none. just gully cricket but im going to try out for the new jersey state cricket team really soon. i want to be fit as possible and try out with my fullest potential. thats why i want suggestions on how to become a better bowler. i came here because pakistan bowlers are genuinley fast and they brew the best bowlers. i didnt come here to get nationalist answers that demean indian selectors or indian bowlers.
 
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lol they're just teasing, don't take it personally champ.

Get your cardio game on point to help lose more weight and if you're going to hit the weights, make sure you work out your full body and not just your upper body.
 
hqmusik10 said:
these are not the answers im looking for! why are u bringing up the indian selectors?? did i even mention i want to play for the indian team or even play professionally for that matter? man i came to this forum for straight answers not getting stupid answers about the indian selectors.

and if u are trying to make a joke with this statement then frick off man! the indian selectors have actually selected good players to make us win the worldcup unlike ur crappy team!
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Woah watch yourself...this is pakpassion don't make such childish insults...we're joking around...its all a good fun :yk

Try watching Shoaib Akhtar videos...seeing that run-up fires me up like nothing else...imagine everything that's ever pissed you off and focus all that energy into the ball!

Good luck!
 
Ghazinator1313 said:
Woah watch yourself...this is pakpassion don't make such childish insults...we're joking around...its all a good fun :yk

Try watching Shoaib Akhtar videos...seeing that run-up fires me up like nothing else...imagine everything that's ever pissed you off and focus all that energy into the ball!

Good luck!
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dude im sorry if i went out of line but i came here looking for help not stupid childish jokes about my nation
 
hqmusik10 said:
as of now none. just gully cricket but im going to try out for the new jersey state cricket team really soon. i want to be fit as possible and try out with my fullest potential. thats why i want suggestions on how to become a better bowler. i came here because pakistan bowlers are genuinley fast and they brew the best bowlers. i didnt come here to get nationalist answers that demean indian selectors or indian bowlers.

i thought better of pakistan people but i guess i was wrong
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Again...stop taking unnecessary digs at Pakistan
That's like me taking offense if someone says PAkistani selectors don't look for good technical batsmen...It's a joke that's all...no need to start an anti-Pakistan rant
 
Ghazinator1313 said:
Again...stop taking unnecessary digs at Pakistan
That's like me taking offense if someone says PAkistani selectors don't look for good technical batsmen...It's a joke that's all...no need to start an anti-Pakistan rant
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lol thank you for that suggestion. PAKISTANI SELECTORS DONT LOOK FOR GOOD TECHNICAL BATSMEN!

oh an im sorry for that statement about pakistani people. not everybody is alike i kno that but i just got mad. ill edit it out in a moment
 
LowkeyP said:
lol they're just teasing, don't take it personally champ.

Get your cardio game on point to help lose more weight and if you're going to hit the weights, make sure you work out your full body and not just your upper body.
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thank you mate. this is why i came here, for proper reccomendations
 
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hqmusik10 said:
as of now none. just gully cricket but im going to try out for the new jersey state cricket team really soon. i want to be fit as possible and try out with my fullest potential. thats why i want suggestions on how to become a better bowler. i came here because pakistan bowlers are genuinley fast and they brew the best bowlers. i didnt come here to get nationalist answers that demean indian selectors or indian bowlers.

i thought better of pakistan people but i guess i was wrong
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Relax bro.

You're really new here, so it's understandable that you are not used to the these type of comments. In fact, I'm still new too, but I've been here long enough to realize that these comments are not really meant to offend you, and your nationality as an Indian. They're just out of fun.

And, your situation is interesting because I too live in the US right now, and play in a local league. Although the competition and quality of play is not nearly as good as it would be in an Indian/Pakistani club, it is still decent. Many are ex-college players, and are fairly good.

But as far as bowling faster goes, I find that having a side-on action gives me more pace. I am able to use my hips and shoulder rotation to generate more pace; I'm not sure if this is the proper way to do it, but just something I've noticed. Also, make sure your run up is smooth, and that you don't loose momentum before delivering. Always have a strong follow through.

Good luck.
 
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Better start with tapeball to regain your 'speed'. It will definitely takes time, but keep bowling fast with tapeball until you get the speed back somehow, and then, start with real ball.

See you in 15 years later.
 
chaiwala said:
Relax bro.

You're really new here, so it's understandable that you are not used to the these type of comments. In fact, I'm still new too, but I've been here long enough to realize that these comments are not really meant to offend you, and your nationality as an Indian. They're just out of fun.

And, your situation is interesting because I too live in the US right now, and play in a local league. Although the competition and quality of play is not nearly as good as it would be in an Indian/Pakistani club, it is still decent. Many are ex-college players, and are fairly good.

But as far as bowling faster goes, I find that having a side-on action gives me more pace. I am able to use my hips and shoulder rotation to generate more pace; I'm not sure if this is the proper way to do it, but just something I've noticed. Also, make sure your run up is smooth, and that you don't loose momentum before delivering. Always have a strong follow through.

Good luck.
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thanks bro but when u say side on are u talking about how glenn mcgrath used to bowl?

and will it be hard to switch from a front on action?
 
hqmusik10 said:
thanks bro but when u say side on are u talking about how glenn mcgrath used to bowl?

and will it be hard to switch from a front on action?
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Yes, Glenn McGrath has a side on action. And so do Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar.

Now, it's important to note that I'm not saying side on is definitely faster than front on. I think it depends on you. But, I've heard that its not advisable to have a mixed action. So, try both side on and front on, and the pick the one you find best.

Here's a nice video of Brett Lee's action in slow mo, that I've used to help change mine in the past:
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Notice how smooth his run up is, and how he transfers his momentum, allowing him to get the nice follow through and pace.
 
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chaiwala said:
Yes, Glenn McGrath has a side on action. And so do Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar.

Now, it's important to note that I'm not saying side on is definitely faster than front on. I think it depends on you. But, I've heard that its not advisable to have a mixed action. So, try both side on and front on, and the pick the one you find best.

Here's a nice video of Brett Lee's action in slow mo, that I've used to help change mine in the past:
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Notice how smooth his run up is, and how he transfers his momentum, allowing him to get the nice follow through and pace.
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wow thanks soo much yaar. ill switch to sidearm asap and see how it works out. i was wondering does height have anything to do with how fast you bowl?
 
Hey HqMusik10 , Welcome :) .

There are many factors of concern when you wanna bowl fast .

Your Attitude .
Your Physical Status .
Your Food-intake .
Your Action
Your Wrist / Wrist Position .
Your Run-Up .
Your Follow-through , and stuff like that .

Well , from what I have seen in my cricketing knowledge so far , fitness and wrists are the most important . Then comes the Run-up and action . Then when everything looks set , concentrate on the level of calcium and proteins your body needs .

See , here in Pakistan . We play frequent " Galli Cricket " with the taped ball , and whenever I have seen someone bowl .... lets say .. lightning fast , they had got Wrists of Steel ! The strength their wrists have is unbelievable O_O .... and the scary thing is , " Aik Dum Chipkali ki jaan hai unmah :p " .. LOlx , it's all in the wrists ^_^ .

Take Mohammad Sami's Example >_> ...


Hit the gym , get fit but not hulky like Akhat :S . Work hard on your wrists ! real damn hard ! .
 
hqmusik10 said:
these are not the answers im looking for! why are u bringing up the indian selectors?? did i even mention i want to play for the indian team or even play professionally for that matter? man i came to this forum for straight answers not getting stupid answers about the indian selectors.

and if u are trying to make a joke with this statement then frick off man! the indian selectors have actually selected good players to make us win the worldcup unlike ur crappy team!
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Wow you honestly need Tips to Understand Sense Of Humour.

If our team is crappy, then why Did Wahab take 5 wickets against you guys, and why did Ajmal make god(Tendulkar) look like a monkey.
 
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hqmusik10 said:
wow thanks soo much yaar. ill switch to sidearm asap and see how it works out. i was wondering does height have anything to do with how fast you bowl?
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I want to clarify that side on does not mean side arm (you're not going to be slinging like Malinga). Side on is about back foot placement. With side on, your back foot is basically parallel to the crease when you land. With front on, your foot is perpendicular to the crease.

This one gives you a good basic understanding of side on/front on:
(Start watching from 1:10)

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As far as height goes, you can still have good pace with medium height. I think being somewhat tell definitely helps with pace, and gives some extra bounce, but at the club level that we mortals play in, it shouldn't make as much of a difference. In plus, there's little you can do about it, so don't worry about it as much.
 
View systematix' thread regarding consumption of meat and 'other variables' :asif
 
First things first.

How substantial is your rump?
 
knuckle pushups
spartan pushups
pull ups

practice bowling with weights...lol ball feels like a feather in your hand afterwards

just dont injure yourself
 
Nothing fancy, nice and simple push ups man. Great for the shoulders and that's what you need to bowl quicker.:wahab:akhtar:wasim

Oh and at the point of release when your wrist is cocked back try to flick it forward. Terrible for accuracy but really adds some pace to the delivery...
 
shahrukh619 said:
Wow you honestly need Tips to Understand Sense Of Humour.

If our team is crappy, then why Did Wahab take 5 wickets against you guys, and why did Ajmal make god(Tendulkar) look like a monkey.
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bro who won the game? and it was ur teams fault for dropping those silly catches so go whine to them about it instead of whining to me. and yea how bout that 2003 world cup match where tendulkar made the gods of bowling (wasim akram & waqar younis) look like crap and the fastest bowler in the world (shoaib) look like crap.

he's at 38 years old and he is still destroying bowlers and he still has that passion. you shouldnt hate and you should respect his contributions to the game of cricket regardless of his nationality!

ps ur team looked liked a monkey when they gave all of our bowlers 2 wickets each. lmao what u talkin bout son? first beat us in a world cup match then talk to me homie. or for that matter get atop of the icc rankings then talk to me!
 
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chaiwala said:
I want to clarify that side on does not mean side arm (you're not going to be slinging like Malinga). Side on is about back foot placement. With side on, your back foot is basically parallel to the crease when you land. With front on, your foot is perpendicular to the crease.

This one gives you a good basic understanding of side on/front on:
(Start watching from 1:10)

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wBa1OxNYI-Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


As far as height goes, you can still have good pace with medium height. I think being somewhat tell definitely helps with pace, and gives some extra bounce, but at the club level that we mortals play in, it shouldn't make as much of a difference. In plus, there's little you can do about it, so don't worry about it as much.
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thanks mate this is the perfect answer
how can i repp you?
 
Its to easy to catch trolls these days ay.

well my job is done here. Lets look for more.
 
pakistandiehardfan said:
:)) let him troll, and remind him of our record in ODI and tests vs India.
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lol not here to troll. im just not going to take **** about my team as you guys arent going to take **** for yours.

and lets remind ourselves who won the world cup and who is atop the rankings and which team is more successful.

thank you
 
LowkeyP said:
That's the last time I try to help an overweight Indian. He's mad all the Pakistani-born fast bowlers are gettin' all the chicks in New Jersey. :manzoor
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lol who's the jackass here making fun of a person's weight? lol if u read the description im perfect weight now jackass so yes im getting all the girls over u grimy pakistan fast bowlers.
 
shahrukh619 said:
Its to easy to catch trolls these days ay.

well my job is done here. Lets look for more.
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lol thats what u get for taking shots at the indian cricket selectors when i came here for help

and dont say i dont have a sense of humor because i dont take anything as jokes between the india and pakistan tension!
 
^ :)) The OP needs to calm down. You won the World Cup, well done, you beat us 5-0 in World Cups, well done. But no need to get personal, it's just a little banter. To me, you're the real troll.
 
You should probably leave. You can ask chaiwala and a few others, I'm not usually nice to trolls but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. It's best you either shut up or go to a place where your lack of pace and Pakistan hate is more accepted.

Hint: it's not here.
 
LowkeyP said:
You should probably leave. You can ask chaiwala and a few others, I'm not usually nice to trolls but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. It's best you either shut up or go to a place where your lack of pace and Pakistan hate is more accepted.

Hint: it's not here.
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lol yea im not mean to all pakistani's but im mean to the ones who take shots at the indian cricket team because they have nothing better to dwell on.

lol i took psychology class and in that it states you make fun of something because inside you have a certain fear of it.

from the looks of it, you pakistani's are taking cracks at the indian cricket team cause ur scared of them and u aspire to be like them but in reality you can never reach their level and their greatness.

sorry it had to come this but remember i didnt start this. im just overprotective about supporting my nation just as you are.
 
LowkeyP said:
You should probably leave. You can ask chaiwala and a few others, I'm not usually nice to trolls but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. It's best you either shut up or go to a place where your lack of pace and Pakistan hate is more accepted.

Hint: it's not here.
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Leave me out of this, please.
 
hqmusik10 said:
lol yea im not mean to all pakistani's but im mean to the ones who take shots at the indian cricket team because they have nothing better to dwell on.

lol i took psychology class and in that it states you make fun of something because inside you have a certain fear of it.

from the looks of it, you pakistani's are taking cracks at the indian cricket team cause ur scared of them and u aspire to be like them but in reality you can never reach their level and their greatness.

sorry it had to come this but remember i didnt start this. im just overprotective about supporting my nation just as you are.
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I think you missed the left turn a while back - ICF to the left ... though I don't know if you'll get any info on how to be a fast bowler from there :yk
 
pakistandiehardfan said:
^ :)) The OP needs to calm down. You won the World Cup, well done, you beat us 5-0 in World Cups, well done. But no need to get personal, it's just a little banter. To me, you're the real troll.
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i didnt get personal. what dont u people understand? i just came here for help and people take shots at the indian team selectors and the bowlers because they lack pace? *** am i doing wrong here to protect my nation? i came here for help damnit not to be a troll or start stuff?
 
hqmusik10 said:
lol yea im not mean to all pakistani's but im mean to the ones who take shots at the indian cricket team because they have nothing better to dwell on.

lol i took psychology class and in that it states you make fun of something because inside you have a certain fear of it.

from the looks of it, you pakistani's are taking cracks at the indian cricket team cause ur scared of them and u aspire to be like them but in reality you can never reach their level and their greatness.

sorry it had to come this but remember i didnt start this. im just overprotective about supporting my nation just as you are.
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LOL you're 17 and you took a psychology class... ladies and gentlemen, we have an expert. You can go "protect" your nation somewhere else if you're going to post that filth here despite the fact that more than a few posters genuinely tried to help you out.

What kinda Jersey Shore douchebag do we have here?

and my bad chaiwala, I didn't mean to call you a troll. you're not.
 
hqmusik10 said:
i didnt get personal. what dont u people understand? i just came here for help and people take shots at the indian team selectors and the bowlers because they lack pace? *** am i doing wrong here to protect my nation? i came here for help damnit not to be a troll or start stuff?
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Its okay to defend your Nation but you got too emotional. They were only joking and jokes should only be taken as jokes.

Just calm down a bit.:akhtar
 
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LowkeyP said:
LOL you're 17 and you took a psychology class... ladies and gentlemen, we have an expert. You can go "protect" your nation somewhere else if you're going to post that filth here despite the fact that more than a few posters genuinely tried to help you out.

What kinda Jersey Shore douchebag do we have here?

and my bad chaiwala, I didn't mean to call you a troll. you're not.
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lol these shots are not to the people who helped me. if your blind ass can see, i actually thanked the people who helped me.

these shots are to the douchebags who have nothing better to do than tease a new forum member and his nationality.

and its sad to see the real douchebag is you because you are supporting them.

oh yea if you ever took physcology which i highly doubt you did, then what i stated in the previous comment is a basic rule and basic teaching
 
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my last comment! not gonna come here for help anytime soon!

sorry for the people i have hurt with my comments!
 
The Situation has a work out DVD, check it out. Maybe you can get ripped abs like his and you guys can play cricket at Karma niteclub and Vinny can be wicketkeeper. Maybe you can GTL in the Indian jungles and stuff.



LOL I'M NOT EVEN MAKING SENSE ANYMORE!
 
Very poor reasoning. You can't even spell Psychology. So if I make cracks at a fat guy is that because I'm afraid of the fat guy?
 
LowkeyP said:
The Situation has a work out DVD, check it out. Maybe you can get ripped abs like his and you guys can play cricket at Karma niteclub and Vinny can be wicketkeeper. Maybe you can GTL in the Indian jungles and stuff.



LOL I'M NOT EVEN MAKING SENSE ANYMORE!
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lol wff how did jersey shore come in here? now u taking shots at america.

lol what have pakistani people come to? they scared of indians and american who produce profitable shows with mass following such as jersey shore.

lmao people these days
 
Poison said:
Very poor reasoning. You can't even spell Psychology. So if I make cracks at a fat guy is that because I'm afraid of the fat guy?
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yea when u type buddy you dont check for every single error. thats why its a forum board. and yes when u make fun of a fat guy ur scared of becoming fat or ever reaching that stage.

and this is my last comment. it seems liek im not welcomed here and i can respect that.
 
I cannot stand idly by and watch Poison and the Goat massacre a (largely) innocent newbie.

To be fair it WAS a couple of our fellas who started this argument.

I'm not defending the New Jersey Shore Indian per se, but it's a bit harsh to be tasering him when he was just responding, albeit foolishly, to a few jokes. The poor waif didn't know any better

Lamb to the slaughter indeed...slaughtered by a wily, Poisonous Goat! :)))
 
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If I was a mod, I would've used your email, got onto your facebook and posted pictures of you here which would probably look something like this:

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You kinda messed up the fast bowler hair there champ.

You mad I can bowl 80 MPH off a 4 step run up whilst flipping off all the Indians in the stadium?
 
1137moiz said:
I cannot stand idly by and watch Poison and the Goat massacre a (largely) innocent newbie.

To be fair it WAS a couple of our fellas who started this argument.

I'm not defending the New Jersey Indian per se, but it's a bit harsh to be tasering him when he was just responding, albeit foolishly, to a few jokes. The poor waif didn't know any better
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Too nice moiz :waqar
 
1137moiz said:
I cannot stand idly by and watch Poison and the Goat massacre a (largely) innocent newbie.

To be fair it WAS a couple of our fellas who started this argument.

I'm not defending the New Jersey Indian per se, but it's a bit harsh to be tasering him when he was just responding, albeit foolishly, to a few jokes. The poor waif didn't know any better
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But look! I actually helped the guy out and told him not to worry, some jokes were uncalled for but his continuous response of blaming Pakistan and Pakistanis despite the fact people actually helped him was too far. He's an obvious troll with a deep seated hate of Pakistan, potentially he's been abused in the past by Pakistanis irl.. it happens, you know. No need to take it out on us.
 
1137moiz said:
I cannot stand idly by and watch Poison and the Goat massacre a (largely) innocent newbie.

To be fair it WAS a couple of our fellas who started this argument.

I'm not defending the New Jersey Indian per se, but it's a bit harsh to be tasering him when he was just responding, albeit foolishly, to a few jokes. The poor waif didn't know any better
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It's a tradition on this forum that we have a joke with our Indian counter-parts about there 'pace' of 'lack of it' shall I say. Other Indian posters seem to be fine with it, just look at the thread 'Ishant Sharma : I want to bowl 100mph' and you'll get what I'm saying.

& btw the OP should go to ICF, if you think a little comment about Indian selectors is big than I'd love to see your reaction when you visit parosi forum. :)
 
LowkeyP said:
But look! I actually helped the guy out and told him not to worry, some jokes were uncalled for but his continuous response of blaming Pakistan and Pakistanis despite the fact people actually helped him was too far. He's an obvious troll with a deep seated hate of Pakistan, potentially he's been abused in the past by Pakistanis irl.. it happens, you know. No need to take it out on us.
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Lol I'm actually enjoying this...the poor youngsta beauty isn't making it easy on himself, especially the Psychology rant :)))
 
LowkeyP said:
If I was a mod, I would've used your email, got onto your facebook and posted pictures of you here which would probably look something like this:

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You kinda messed up the fast bowler hair there champ.

You mad I can bowl 80 MPH off a 4 step run up whilst flipping off all the Indians in the stadium?
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lol u trying to hard son to win an arguement that u already lost in.

ur just mad that indian batters speak with the bat instead of flipping your players off when they win in world cup matches and beat pakistan in their own stadiums and such.

ps how old r u? it seems like im more mature then u at my age.

first your players shud fix their habit of match fixing and their steroids issue then ill conisder them a competitve team. thats y u jackasses are banned from the ipl. cause u cant play fair or dont have any fair comments to say.
 
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:))) This "argument" if it can be called that is getting funnier and funnier. How old are you hqmusik if you don't mind my asking?
 
:))) The way this thread has turned ... ahh poor fella, just a patriotic Indian I guess who dreams of Akhtar but it comes out as Agarkar
 
yeh bro u mad mature typing lyk dis comiin str8 frm da JERSEY!!!11!! psycology class bra manz b learnin bout penal envy n stuff yah yah ayah YAH !
 
Goat, stop. Can't you see he's too mature for you...he took Psycoloji in Kindergarten
 
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this guy is laughing at the fact that pakistan players dont have technical batsmen. lmao!
 
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On topic though, fast bowlers are born not made. If you haven't 'got it' in you at the age you're at (guessing around 17-18, possibly 14), it's unlikely any gym-work is going to increase your pace drastically. Only possible thing I could suggest is to hook up with Ian Pont and start flippin' tires and stuff.
 
What's a "technical batsman"? Is it somebody who's only a batsman technically :rohitsharma?
 
Poison said:
On topic though, fast bowlers are born not made. If you haven't 'got it' in you at the age you're at (guessing around 17-18, possibly 14), it's unlikely any gym-work is going to increase your pace drastically. Only possible thing I could suggest is to hook up with Ian Pont and start flippin' tires and stuff.
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Poison said:
:))) The way this thread has turned ... ahh poor fella, just a patriotic Indian I guess who dreams of Akhtar but it comes out as Agarkar
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i dont dream of bowlers who consume illegal substances such as steroids.

i do admire akram though
 
hqmusik10 said:
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this guy is laughing at the fact that pakistan players dont have technical batsmen. lmao!
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Great picture of your dad bro, really captured the poverty in his eyes.. the poverty of producing no fast bowlers.
 
1137moiz said:
What's a "technical batsman"? Is it somebody who's only a batsman technically :rohitsharma?
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technical batsmen as in batsmen who can win you games with the bat even when your bowling team sucks.

example, dhoni, tendulkar, yuvraj and moreee
 
LowkeyP said:
Great picture of your dad bro, really captured the poverty in his eyes.. the poverty of producing no fast bowlers.
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lol bro thats a pakistani and my dad is pure indian.

if my dad was pakistani i wud personally chop his head off!
 
Oh dear consult a dictionary over the term 'technical' please.
 
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