Namak_Halaal
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EU approves next tranche of funding for Greece.
Kicking the can down the road.
Kicking the can down the road.
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UK's first gold vending machine unveiled
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jul/01/au-atm-gold-vending-machine
One must be very silly to buy at vending machine prices.
Interesting link! Thanks!
25% over the spot price is a massive spread to be paying. Better off buying off E-bay! (not really). I guess the machine is designed for sheeple who have no clue as to where to purchase Gold bullion from. Plus I think the machine accepts credit cards which is a novelty in its own right as Gold and Silver bullion cannot be bought using a credit card from Bullion Merchants.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jul/01/au-atm-gold-vending-machine
One must be very silly to buy at vending machine prices.
NH, how are you viewing the credit downgrade of Portugal. I'm thinking of initiating a short position in Euro, so asking. The trend line seems to hold.
Credit rating agencies are abusing their power to strengthen the $ (because they cannot raise interest rates at the moment). Ireland is most certainly next, along with Italy. Greece on the other hand have simply kicked the can down the road and will probably default within 12 months, if not sooner. The yields on PIGS bonds are rising fast and furious making it more expensive to borrow from the markets and the ECB hike in interest rate didn't help either. It's a pretty grim situation.
From what I am reading, the EUR is heading towards parity with the $.
I'm shorting EUR/USD, stop at 1.6000 with a limit at 1.2000 (rolling contract), and have a PUT Option at 1.0500
Having said this, once the PIGS situation subsides, EUR will climb back, but I feel we have to wait for about 3 years or so.
Top officials of the European Council, the European Central Bank and the European Commission will hold an emergency meeting Monday to discuss the possibility that the debt crisis could spread to Italy from Greece, according to a media report Sunday.
The meeting comes in the wake of the sharp sell-off in Italian assets on Friday, Reuters reported, citing three unnamed official sources.
On Friday, Italian government bond yields jumped, as did the cost of insuring Italian sovereign debt against default, as worries grew over Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti’s possible exit.
Or it could break either up or down. "explosive" situation, either up or down seems to wait for this.
Lol he meant drastically. Drastically go up or down.well we dont need a chart to tell us that market can go either up or down.... do we ?
Lol he meant drastically. Drastically go up or down.
NH, why do you think gold has gone up wildly in the last decade? I mean what are some things that weren't happening in the 90s, but started happening in the 2000s? The gold standard was set in the 70s.
That looks so much like a definition of a 'bubble', it scares me.
^No problem brother!
SE, please tell me you had your EUR/USD short position open? EUR/USD down a cool 220 pips!
Oh, yes, I'd opened today. It seems to have pierced the trend line downwards. Though I couldn't capture the whole gain - around 80 pips on average till now. Shorting price was 4.200, openedjust after the gap down.
Thanks brother!
Helicopter Ben does it again!
The Dow, S&P and Gold are all up by give or take one percent today in terms of the dollar but the dollar is down a matching amount against the Swiss Franc. Forget the Euro and associated DXY index because they have their own Greek/Italian issues. So what does that tell us? Not that Bernanke's done something good for the markets but that he's dealt another blow to the $.
Looks like QE3 is around the corner, as a result, $ sinks, pushing EUR, GBP around 200 pips!
- Gold smashes into all time record breaking territory - $1585/oz
- Gold sets new reocrds in GBP too, at £984/oz
- Silver up 5.5%
PS: I'm still shorting GBP and EUR till end of DEC.
Why?
Inverse relation between the currency pairs.
GBP/USD & EUR/USD
If USD moves up, then GBP and EUR would move down against USD.
If USD moves down, then GBP and EUR would move up against USD.
I wasn't clear in asking question.
If you think that USD going to sink and EUR/G would go up by 200 pips in Q3, shouldn't you be going long for pair EUR/USD instead of short?
Firstly the EUR and GBP went up by around 200 pips, today, Q3 ends in SEPT. The reason being that Helicopter Ben indicated QE3 (Quantitative Easing) as a resort to bolstering the economy. More $s in the systems means less value of $s which is why both EUR and GBP show up. Today’s movement was all psychology, given the recent sell off in markets.
Today was a blip in the grand scheme of things. Euro-geddon (PIGS debt) is far from over. Austerity in UK is kicking in; this will send the GBP lower, sub 15000.
The fact of the matter is that rating agencies in the US are toying with Europe. Greece, Portugal, and Ireland are now rated as Junk. Any bond yield rated above 7% is considered unsustainable. This is how the US is bolstering the USD against EUR while interest rates in USD are close to zero – currency is the weapon of today.
I would say one thing, do not be fooled by daily movements; do not be fooled by peaks and troughs, one simple fact, the trend is your friend.
USD will weaken in the long run for sure, but I feel in the Q3 and Q4 the DXY will shoot up as part of the manipulation orchestrated by Wall Street Fraudsters. 2012 will see a European default, 2012 to 2015 will see more. When all is said and done, USD will plummet, signifying the end of the American Empire.
Gold is the ultimate indicator of economic health – that is all that matters IMO.
Thanks.....so I'll keep an eye and see if your predictions realize.
^No problem brother!
SE, please tell me you had your EUR/USD short position open? EUR/USD down a cool 220 pips!
NH how do you keep positions open for so long? (6 months) Are you using options or are you not using any leverage at all?
US might default or raise debt ceiling on AUG 2 (in a week).....
GOLD is gonna skyrocket no matter which one happens???
any advice......Buy Gold now??
i don't wanna buy Gold Bullion (security hassle etc.).....i wanna buy Gold stocks......how do i do that?
i'm thinking about opening an account with etrade.com (USA).......any advice will be appreciated
Gold price was around 1450 when this thread first started I think.
Good call NH!
Russia has now warned the dollar is not a viable currency any more. Keep your gold in your pockets the time is getting nearer and nearer.
I wish I had bought the Gold ETF
NH.......thank you brother for ur advice..............really appreciate it..
i was/am waiting for gold to come down to $1500/ounce range but it keeps going up and up.....now @ $1666........
chances of it coming down to 1500-1550?? or i should just jump in @ 1600+ coz its not coming down??
me being greedy
Are you investing in mining stocks EE?
I have just one .... very small for now... I do have plenty that I am watching.
I do have the silver long etf... yoyo-ing and not quite following like gold trend...
Debt-laden Italy is likely to default, but Spain might just avoid it, according to the British think-tank, the Centre for Economics and Business Research.
With the countries weighed down by debt, the think tank modelled "good" and "bad" economic scenarios for both.
It found that Italy will not avoid default unless it sees an unlikely big jump in economic growth.
However, it said, "there is a real chance that Spain may avoid default".
Even though Italy has managed to run tight budgets, and has vowed to eliminate its deficit by 2014, the economy needs a significant boost in growth.
But its economy grew by just 0.1% in the first quarter of 2011 and further growth is expected to remain sluggish.
On Wednesday, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi addressed parliament, saying the economy was "strong" and the nation's banks "solvent".
But many economists believe that the eurozone's third largest economy risks being engulfed in the debt crisis.
In a report published on Thursday, the CEBR calculated that Italy's debt would rise from 128% of annual output to 150% by 2017 if bond yields stay above the current 6% and growth remains stagnant.
"Even if the cost of borrowing goes back down to 4%, the growth rate is so anaemic that we see the debt-GDP ratio remaining at 123% in 2018," said Doug McWilliams, the CEBR's chief executive.
The conditions in Spain are better because its debt is much lower. Even under the "bad" scenario, Madrid's debt ratio would climb to no higher than 75% of national output.
"Fingers crossed but there is a real chance that Spain may avoid default and debt restructuring, unless it gets dragged down by contagion," Mr McWilliams said.
"Realistically, Italy is bound to default, but Spain may just get away without having to do so," he said
The real carnage is on the AIM and especially the junior Oilies!!
These are not times for the faint hearted
what a day, lols more than half (about 52% or 53%) of my portfolio in cash now, got out of some medium term holdings when the markets came close to dropping below 5500.
shame abt italy, hw will silvio fund his bunga bunga parties, cant wait for qe3 should be fun.
whos the pic of nh, i liked the einstien pic better.
The beauty of trading! You can profit on the way up and on the way down.
QE3, QE4, QE5, and so on, all good news for Bullion holders.
Jonathan Liew - the guy who brought India to its knees over a Tendulkar article.
Holy schmoly!! It's time to act on those mental stop losses. I have about 1500 to spare but for a very very short term. Any recommendations for making a quick buck just from this fall?
The United States lost its top-notch AAA credit rating from Standard & Poor's on Friday, in a dramatic reversal of fortune for the world's largest economy.
S&P cut the long-term U.S. credit rating by one notch to AA-plus on concerns about growing budget deficits.
U.S. Treasuries, once undisputedly seen as the safest investment in the world, are now rated lower than bonds issued by countries such as the UK, Germany, France or Canada.
The outlook on the new U.S. credit rating is negative, S&P said in a statement, a sign that another downgrade is possible in the next 12 to 18 months.
One of the top credit rating agencies, Standard & Poor's, has downgraded the United States' top-notch AAA rating.
S&P cut the long-term US credit rating by one notch to AA+, citing concerns about growing budget deficits.
As rumours swirled earlier about the downgrade, unnamed US officials had told US media that S&P's analysis of the US economic situation was flawed.
The move follows the long political battle in Washington in recent months over raising the US debt ceiling.
Analysts have said a downgrade would further erode global investors' confidence in the US economy, which is already struggling with huge debts and unemployment of 9.1%.
fitch and moody still sitting on AAAs, and its not like the snp provides any new info, everyone was familiar with the rationale for quite some time.
The European Central Bank said late Sunday it "will actively implement" its bond-buying program, known as the Securities Markets Program. "This programme has been designed to help restoring a better transmission of our monetary policy decisions - taking account of dysfunctional market segments - and therefore to ensure price stability in the euro area," the ECB said in a statement released around 10 p.m. London time on Sunday. The statement is an indication that the ECB will likely buy Spanish and Italian government bonds in an effort to stem the spread of the euro-zone debt crisis. The ECB also urged Spain and Italy to swiftly implement new measures and reforms in the areas of fiscal and structural policies "in order to substantially enhance the competitiveness and flexibility of their economies, and to rapidly reduce public deficits." European markets have been shaken in recent days by growing fears that the euro-zone debt crisis that started in Greece will spread to bigger economies such as Spain and Italy
snp at 1170, would b critical to see if it opens tmou below its last low which was around 1170. gold getting more expensive, dont mind seeing that now, put a bit of money in a gold miner to hedge againt further gold price rises.
i dont get what these european countries are doing, unless they actively look to reduce spending i dont see how these measures will calm investor sentiment.
GOD!!!!!!
i am regretting not buying it
Namak_Halal,
One can invest in Bullion Gold from Spain? Because i have found some Spanish online sites who sell gold and ship it to your house in couple of days. But later on how to sell it?
It seem in England its much better since they store your gold and you can sell it anytime, right?
You can sell the Gold to any Bullion dealer providing the Bullion has the following:
- Serial number
- Assay stamp of refiner
- Fineness (to four significant figures)
Though if you live in the UK, then why not buy from the UK?
I live in Spain, Barcelona.
I have found this Spanish site which sells gold. Check this out, they also have English version.
http://www.orodirect.es/products/2/gold_bars_.html
thanks