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If we played for a draw then why did we score close to 50 runs in last 10?
Then the batsmen would be blocking for the close of play.
Clearly they wanted to force the issue.
As i said nz will bat again and not give us a target under 300. Which means there is little time left to force something.
Again we are winning this series.
Ok one low score and the blame his on him. You act as if hes never scored in a pressure situation. Same with shafiq.
And what about taufeeq and shan masood. Theyre mediocre so they are of the hook.
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Sarfraz has only one way of batting. He will also look to score quick runs.
Shafiq didn't look comfortable today. He clearly looked under pressure and was trying to release it by going after the bowling.
Misbah isn't going to risk a 1-0 lead here, our only hope is for NZ to collapse miserably and give us 100-150 to chase. Anything beyond that and we will look to play for a draw.
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Past is past. Has no relevance on today or the future. Just because they have done well in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for today's performance.
Misbah and Shafiq's batting today was questionable.
Taufeeq is finished and Masood tries really hard but it is obvious that he lacks ability.
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The garbage this clown spouts is unbelievable - attention seeking is all it is..
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Last three Tests in fortress UAE:
Draw vs. England
Innings defeat vs. New Zealand
Draw vs. New Zealand
We are slowly but surely getting exposed as a Test team. The series win in Sri Lanka shouldn't paper the cracks because they are a very poor outfit at the moment and even then, we had to pull off a fluke chase not to lose the series.
It is understandable however - our openers are barely Test class and we don't have a single top class fast bowler. Batting is good for now but our hopes of winning matches rests too much on one bowler and that is never a good sign.
Things are not looking good. This series is looking like a bit of a farce. I hope we produce rank turners in the next two Tests and escape with a 1-0 victory.
Be prepared for humiliation in England and Australia next year.
Draw vs. England
Innings defeat vs. New Zealand
Draw vs. New Zealand
We are slowly but surely getting exposed as a Test team. The series win in Sri Lanka shouldn't paper the cracks because they are a very poor outfit at the moment and even then, we had to pull off a fluke chase not to lose the series.
It is understandable however - our openers are barely Test class and we don't have a single top class fast bowler. Batting is good for now but our hopes of winning matches rests too much on one bowler and that is never a good sign.
Things are not looking good. This series is looking like a bit of a farce. I hope we produce rank turners in the next two Tests and escape with a 1-0 victory.
Be prepared for humiliation in England and Australia next year.
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Mamoon you are too emotional as a fan tbh i still remember how you use to post on PP before australia series that johnson is going to destroy us in UAE after what he did to England and SA. Calm down dude let this series finish and we will get a better idea.
Mamoon you are too emotional as a fan tbh i still remember how you use to post on PP before australia series that johnson is going to destroy us in UAE after what he did to England and SA. Calm down dude let this series finish and we will get a better idea.
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Its not so black and White
WI drew with England, who in turn defeated Aus and drew with NZ.
Pak and Ind defeated SL, who in turn are mauling WI
The home conditions play a huge factor right now. Thus, I would be more concerned about Pak not winning in UAE than losing in Eng/Aus
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^ I have already said that we can escape with a 1-0 victory if we produce a rank-turner for Yasir and hope that English batsmen collapse, but it does not change the fact that since the second Test of the Australian series, we have looked ordinary.
People were predicting a 3-0 whitewash for England, but we have received a reality check here. Of course we love our excuses, and we have got a great one in Yasir, but this is the third straight Test in the fortress where we have looked below par.
People were predicting a 3-0 whitewash for England, but we have received a reality check here. Of course we love our excuses, and we have got a great one in Yasir, but this is the third straight Test in the fortress where we have looked below par.
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Yeah, but the signs are there of things to come. If we cannot beat England in the UAE, what hope do we have in their den? We will get hammered.
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No such thing as pessimism and optimism - only facts, and the fact is that we have been poor for three straight Tests in the UAE now and it is not a good sign.
Everyone thought we would turn up and whitewash England. This is a big reality check.
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Fortress demolished by the Queen.
One of the worst defeats in memory - right up there with Sydney 2010, Hobart 99 and Karachi 2000.
This one will haunt our memories for years to come.
One of the worst defeats in memory - right up there with Sydney 2010, Hobart 99 and Karachi 2000.
This one will haunt our memories for years to come.
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chill!you wont lose. but disappointing cricket
The fortress built by King Misbah is here to stay.
Uber disappointment on the faces of guys who come here to post nothing but hatred against one guy, the solid rock of our team. All gone into hiding. [MENTION=56866]Bullet Drive[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
Long may this continue. They prayed a lot for us to fail, though.
Uber disappointment on the faces of guys who come here to post nothing but hatred against one guy, the solid rock of our team. All gone into hiding. [MENTION=56866]Bullet Drive[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
Long may this continue. They prayed a lot for us to fail, though.
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No one blamed them. He was slowing it down rightly and in a decent way. Many other teams would have been worse and you know very well that a certain country would have been one of them.
Huh? Even English didn't say any such thing lol, how come an Indian is thinking there were ANY delay tactics?
Wake up. There were none.
No one will say it. It doesn't mean it didn't happen.. others are not hypocrites, but Pakistan takes so much pride on their sportsman spirit.
You just had to see Misbah's 'conferences' to believe it. The acting by Wahab was enough to land him a role in tollywood.
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How precisely??
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England have learnt once again in UAE that conditions are as tough as they get in world cricket.
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The fortress stands
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The Fortress has been breached! The Golden Era is Over as we know it! [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION]
#EndofAnEra #FinalDeletion
#EndofAnEra #FinalDeletion
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Not really, we've lost games in the UAE before, its just that no team has been able to win series against us in the UAE.
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Hello?
Have we lost the series? Is the match over? Have we never lost a Test in UAE?
Keep your eyes on the bigger picture.
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There's no doubt we remain unbeaten as far as Test Series in the UAE are concerned but if we're struggling to beat West Indies of all teams in the UAE it could be a sign of our little golden period coming to an end. Also, Misbah will retire after the series in AUS and Younis will soon follow and Yasir Shah will probably get injured at some point given his work load. Those three names are the nucleus of Pakistan, if one or two go down the ship sinks.
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Fortress in UAE is still intact. It was always about not losing a series and not about dominating them.
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I think pakistani team lacked motivation in the series , the dull pitches , hot weather and barren stands. It can't get any worse than this for a team which is number 2 and recently played extremely good cricket in england.
Pakistan will soon have to find other venues as well where they can play their home matches.
Pakistan will soon have to find other venues as well where they can play their home matches.
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Wasn't the fortress supposed to be breached in 2014 by Australia? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
Though then again we were also supposed to be whitewashed in England....
Though then again we were also supposed to be whitewashed in England....
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The recent tour in summer which was also to be end of Misbahs career
And Younis "Disco" Khan who Discoed his way to a double to help his country level the series
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In 2012 , 2015 or 2016?
Australia yes, but I said we will lose 3-0 to England. One can check in the predictions thread in the archives.
The recent tour in summer which was also to be end of Misbahs career
Didn't say that.
And Younis "Disco" Khan who Discoed his way to a double to help his country level the series
Well he certainly put on a disco dance for all but one innings though, so I was half-right.
On a serious note, this team has shown plenty of cracks in the fortress lately. NZ won a Test, England were minutes away from winning one and now WI had the opportunity to win 2 Tests.
Seems like the fortress will be breached soon, but all good things come to an end. It has still been an impressive streak though, although not dominant barring 2-3 series.
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Yep you generally expect us to lose in most high profile series can't think of one where you expected us to do well even at home. But you didn't predict that Khan would be pivotal in helping us level the series, he danced all the way to helping his country achieve a monumental feat
yet it's crazy how ya'll are mad about that, I get it that you don't like him but it's a shame when your dislike will come before your acknowledgement of undisputed greatness.That's likely unfortunately, we're also going to miss key players in the near future; plus Yasir Shah will be run into the ground given how he is being used at the moment. By your standards, it should be absolutely magnificent because you have such low expectations of this Pakistani team but here they are 6 or so years later unbeaten in the UAE, how they win is irrelevant; that's one hell of a stat.
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What type of hosts would we be if we demolished guests visiting our fortress 9-0?
Once we have completely anhilated them 8-0 we will give them a hard fought victory where they struggle to score 150-odd just to thank them for the visit.
We have big hearts
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Lol it's still our fortress, and hell yeah, we've been more dominant than any other team in their home.
Now shut up everyone and wait till tomorrow.
Now shut up everyone and wait till tomorrow.
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Everyone brought their battering rams but the fortress still stands !! Long live the Fortress !!!
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While the UAE has been a literal fortress for Pakistan where they have never lost, they are not the most dominant team at home.
India and Australia are more ruthless at home than Pakistan despite the odd series loss.
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It's difficult to be ruthless on pitches that offer nothing.
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UAE is a bowler's paradise if you compare it to pitches you have in Australia. Besides, if you are losing to sides like WI on a spin-friendly UAE wicket, then there is a clear lack of ruthlessness.
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Is that first part some kind of joke? The UAE is easily the worst place for bowlers. Australian pitches are flat but nowhere near as bad for bowlers as the UAE. The second part tells me that you havent even watched this game? Please tell me how this wicket is spin friendly?
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Just saw the words "UAE" and "Bowlers paradise" in the same sentence. Now Ive heard it all.
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Is that first part some kind of joke? The UAE is easily the worst place for bowlers. Australian pitches are flat but nowhere near as bad for bowlers as the UAE. The second part tells me that you havent even watched this game? Please tell me how this wicket is spin friendly?
Check bowling averages in both countries, it will give you a good idea. If you still think UAE tracks are flatter, then wait for how your bowling attack fares in Aussie conditions.
Btw, yes this is a spin friendly wicket.
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Agreed. It should be commended that Pakistan manages to have results at the UAE where draws are more likely.
However they have dropped a few tests courtesy of collapses to teams like Sri Lanka, South Africa, New Zealand and now the West Indies (actually they collapsed in the first test as well but that didn't prove costly thanks to the big first innings score). I meant ruthlessness in that sense. While Australia and India have lost a series each about 4 years ago at home, they still very rarely if ever drop tests at home. Their win-loss ratio os reflective of that.
To put it simply, it's very hard to win at the UAE because Pakistan are very strong at home. In comparison, it's very hard to avoid defeat in India and Australia because both teams are ruthless at home.
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Have lost Tests to South Africa, Sri Lanka, New Zealand and now West Indies in the last 3 years, and were literally minutes away from losing one to England last year.
What kind of 'fortress' is this. Yes we have been unbeaten, but the word fortress should be used only for something dominant; we are not dominant in the UAE, we just don't end up losing the series. There is a big difference between the two.
In any case, I'm done with the UAE. I want to go back to Pakistan now and prepare India/Bangladesh style rank turners.
What kind of 'fortress' is this. Yes we have been unbeaten, but the word fortress should be used only for something dominant; we are not dominant in the UAE, we just don't end up losing the series. There is a big difference between the two.
In any case, I'm done with the UAE. I want to go back to Pakistan now and prepare India/Bangladesh style rank turners.
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Do you ever have anything positive to say about pakistan cricket? its getting boring now. We have won another test series in the UAE go out and be happy or go support India if this pakistan team makes you want to slit your wrists that much.
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7 years and counting.
We won the Test series so it's still a fortress.
Yes ideally Pakistan should have beaten WI 3-0 but clearly for whatever reason the batsmen couldn't sustain big scores. It can happen in cricket when you are leading a series you can't lose.
As for those nitpicking carry on.
We won the Test series so it's still a fortress.
Yes ideally Pakistan should have beaten WI 3-0 but clearly for whatever reason the batsmen couldn't sustain big scores. It can happen in cricket when you are leading a series you can't lose.
As for those nitpicking carry on.
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Would you have us be a lot more "dominant" instead of being unbeaten in UAE Test Series. There have been hiccups for sure but you should be proud of our record where others teams have failed, which Test Team in the same time frame has not lost a Test Series at home?
I for one would prefer being unbeaten in a Test series in the UAE ahead of everything else, losing a Test Series would be a lot more demoralizing/damaging then not being "dominant"
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Pakistan's W/L ratio in tests in their fortress UAE since Jan 2013 is only fifth after India/Australia/NewZealand/South Africa.
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What nitpicking? Just pointing out that while you haven't lost in the UAE, pakistan haven't really dominated either.
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If that's not nitpicking I don't know what is.
The other day your nitpicked that had WI won tosses than the outcome may have been different which I then countered that there was not a shred of evidence to back up that hypothetical theory as Pakistan have yet to lose a test match in the UAE batting last.
Anyway Pakistan have battered WI 8-1 in this tour. Losing 1 match doesn't mean they deserve so much scrutiny. Yes they should have won 3-0 but I will stake 2-1 as they can't win all games in all formats.
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Would you have us be a lot more "dominant" instead of being unbeaten in UAE Test Series. There have been hiccups for sure but you should be proud of our record where others teams have failed, which Test Team in the same time frame has not lost a Test Series at home?
I for one would prefer being unbeaten in a Test series in the UAE ahead of everything else, losing a Test Series would be a lot more demoralizing/damaging then not being "dominant"
As long as Pakistan don't become dominant, teams will not fear touring UAE. What we did to Australia in 2014 is something that we should be doing on a regular basis, which we are not able to because of the UAE pitches.
On pure rank turners, Pakistan will properly dominate teams like SA, England, NZ and WI, instead of losing a Test to SA, NZ and WI and being minutes away from losing to England.
Yes our batsmen will struggle a bit and their averages will take a hit, but we will have that ruthless factor in our home matches like India because they will have no chance of beating us.
Yes we might lose a series here and there like India did to England in 2012, but I would take an odd series defeat if it means proper domination and demolition of the visiting team, like Australia suffer in the UAE in 2014 and suffer in India every time, or the way SA and NZ suffered India.
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I think everyone on PP should donate some money so we can put it all together and buy Mamoon a nit comb to help with his nit picking.
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You can't be serious, I think an unbeaten record is something to be cherished rather then one with a blemish
then you have a problem when people ask you to support India instead, this where all the theories come from But I do think the pitches need to improve and our bowlers longevity would also increase.
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The nit comb is weird even more when he has extremely low expectations from Pakistan more often then not
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So the fortress has finally been breached 
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Our so-called "dominance" has always been a myth. Far from a fortress.
However, this series defeat has been coming for a while. We have managed to hold on by the skin of our teeth many times and have had our fair share of luck, which seems to be running out now.
However, this series defeat has been coming for a while. We have managed to hold on by the skin of our teeth many times and have had our fair share of luck, which seems to be running out now.
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In the last 5 years, we have lost Tests to Sri Lanka (twice, will soon be thrice), South Africa, New Zealand, England (Abu Dhabi 2015 was a defeat for all purposes) and the West Indies, but it is still a fortress.
Only in Pakistan. Only in Pakistan.
Only in Pakistan. Only in Pakistan.
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The walls of the fortress have come crashing down
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Sir Mamoon has spoken, Boys !! we now have a fair shot at defending thy honor
I expect everyone to show up to work today and tomorrow !!
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Sir Mamoon has spoken, Boys !! we now have a fair shot at defending thy honor
I expect everyone to show up to work today and tomorrow !!
Good to see your optimism, brother. Gonna be a great match
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The fortress is about to collapse - run for your lives!
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Sir Mamoon has spoken, Boys !! we now have a fair shot at defending thy honor
I expect everyone to show up to work today and tomorrow !!
Billi ke khwaab me chichray, but facts are facts. This is a rubbish team that has been rightfully exposed.
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Was never a fortress. We simply got lucky a lot of times and fluked a lot of wins.
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Losing tests at home to teams like WI, SL, NZ. Some fortress
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India is scared of playing Test cricket with us in the UAE.
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Fortress built by Misbah, destroyed by Mickey and Sarfaraz.
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Yes, they are. No doubt in that.
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It's not even just luck. The record isn't even that impressive. We were 'unbeaten' yes, but we hardly won any seris at all. Drew vs NZ, SA, SL, now lost to SL, and barely beat WI. Only Aus and Eng we beat somewhat convincingly. It was far from a dominant record. What's the use if we can't even win series at home?
Compare that to India and Aus who are completely dominant at home and beat everyone. Barring 1 series defeat, they have won EVERY SINGLE SERIES at home in last 5 years.
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