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French official says Pakistan downed Rafale jet as officials examine possible further losses - CNN

The Bald Eagle said:
A proper pro Modi source
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Eric Trappier, the chairman and chief executive officer of Dassault Aviation which makes Rafale fighter jets, has again rejected Pakistan’s claims and clarified that India lost one Rafale during Operation Sindoor and revealed the reason for the loss.​


Eric Trappier, the chairman and chief executive officer (CEO) of Dassault Aviation which makes Rafale fighter jets, has again rejected Pakistan’s claims and clarified that India lost one Rafale during Operation Sindoor and revealed the reason was a technical failure at a high altitude. Pakistan has repeatedly claimed that its military shot down five fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF), including three Rafales. Trappier said in a statement that Pakistan's claims were "inaccurate and unfounded."

What did Trappier say?
According to the French website Avion Chasse, Trappier admitted to the loss of one aircraft during the operation but added the incident occurred without contact with the enemy. The Dassault CEO further stated that their Spectra electronic warfare systems did not record any hostile engagements during the India-Pakistan conflict. He said that flight logs transmitted to Dassault also did not indicate any losses in combat, adding his company had never hidden losses of its aircraft.

Is Rafale being targeted?
Authorities in France have said that a "disinformation campaign" was being run against Dassault's Rafale fighter jets. The vast campaign "sought to promote the superiority of alternative equipment, notably of Chinese design," according to a statement from France's defence ministry. "The Rafale was also targeted because it represents a strategic French offering. By attacking the aircraft, certain actors sought to undermine the credibility of France and its defense industrial and technological base," the statement added.

India-Pakistan conflict
India launched coordinated precision strikes on numerous terrorist bases in Pakistan on May 7, two weeks after a brazen terror attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam, as New Delhi said the involved terrorists were associated with outfits operating from Pakistan. In retaliation, Pakistan launched a series of attacks using drones and missiles, most of which were intercepted mid-air by Indian air defense systems. A ceasefire between the two nations was announced following four days of hostilities, on May 10.

Source: DNA India
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This is hilarious.... they must regret the deal with IAF.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
A proper pro Modi source
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Eric Trappier, the chairman and chief executive officer of Dassault Aviation which makes Rafale fighter jets, has again rejected Pakistan’s claims and clarified that India lost one Rafale during Operation Sindoor and revealed the reason for the loss.​


Eric Trappier, the chairman and chief executive officer (CEO) of Dassault Aviation which makes Rafale fighter jets, has again rejected Pakistan’s claims and clarified that India lost one Rafale during Operation Sindoor and revealed the reason was a technical failure at a high altitude. Pakistan has repeatedly claimed that its military shot down five fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF), including three Rafales. Trappier said in a statement that Pakistan's claims were "inaccurate and unfounded."

What did Trappier say?
According to the French website Avion Chasse, Trappier admitted to the loss of one aircraft during the operation but added the incident occurred without contact with the enemy. The Dassault CEO further stated that their Spectra electronic warfare systems did not record any hostile engagements during the India-Pakistan conflict. He said that flight logs transmitted to Dassault also did not indicate any losses in combat, adding his company had never hidden losses of its aircraft.

Is Rafale being targeted?
Authorities in France have said that a "disinformation campaign" was being run against Dassault's Rafale fighter jets. The vast campaign "sought to promote the superiority of alternative equipment, notably of Chinese design," according to a statement from France's defence ministry. "The Rafale was also targeted because it represents a strategic French offering. By attacking the aircraft, certain actors sought to undermine the credibility of France and its defense industrial and technological base," the statement added.

India-Pakistan conflict
India launched coordinated precision strikes on numerous terrorist bases in Pakistan on May 7, two weeks after a brazen terror attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam, as New Delhi said the involved terrorists were associated with outfits operating from Pakistan. In retaliation, Pakistan launched a series of attacks using drones and missiles, most of which were intercepted mid-air by Indian air defense systems. A ceasefire between the two nations was announced following four days of hostilities, on May 10.

Source: DNA India
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India are still obsessed with this. Comical.

Shouldn't they move on if they claim victory? :inti
 
Opposition member asks Modi govt to do a parade of all Rafale fighter jets to show the world that India didn't lose any Rafale jets against Pakistan.

The Indian opposition mounted a scathing attack on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government during a heated Lok Sabha session, following claims by a Member of Parliament that a Rafale fighter jet was shot down during the May engagement with Pakistan.

Amarinder Singh Raja, a Lok Sabha member, stunned the Lower House by revealing images of the Rafale jet’s wreckage, which he claimed had fallen near the Bhisiana Air Force Station in Punjab. He cited the serial number on the aircraft’s tail as evidence, further asserting that an Indian air marshal had confirmed the downing of the French-made jet.

Amritsar MP Gurjit Singh Aujla escalated pressure on the Modi-led government, demanding that all 35 Rafale aircraft acquired by India be paraded before the media to verify their operational status.

Opposition slams Operation Mahadev, calls it diversion

Adding fuel to the fire, Samajwadi Party chief Akhilesh Yadav raised serious questions about the so-called “Operation Mahadev”, in which Home Minister Amit Shah claimed that three perpetrators of the Pahalgam attack were killed. Yadav questioned the timing of the encounter, saying, “Why did this encounter happen just yesterday? Why was the vehicle carrying RDX in the Pulwama attack never found?”

The MP called the Pahalgam incident the result of intelligence failure. “What action has been taken so far on the serious intelligence failure?” he questioned.

Yadav also questioned the government’s silence on China’s alleged incursion into Indian territory: “How much of our land has China taken? Why has it never been disclosed to the nation?”

He even mocked the ceremonial rituals performed on Rafale jets when they were inducted into the Indian Air Force, asking how many of them had since been damaged.

Priyanka Gandhi criticizes Modi’s leadership
Congress leader Priyanka Gandhi joined the opposition’s chorus, accusing Modi of avoiding accountability while being eager to claim credit for any positive development.

“Be it Operation Sindoor or an Olympic gold medal — Modi ji always pats himself on the back. He takes credit, but never responsibility,” she said during her address in the Lok Sabha.

The Indian PM, who was not present in the session, faced criticism for avoiding parliamentary accountability amidst growing questions over national security failures and alleged cover-ups.

India has reportedly launched a new clandestine military campaign, ‘Operation Mahadev’, aimed at masking the failure of its earlier plan, Operation Sindoor, by orchestrating a wave of fake encounters involving illegally detained Pakistanis and Kashmiris, security sources revealed.

According to details, the sinister plan allegedly involves declaring prisoners already in Indian custody as cross-border infiltrators or terrorists from Pakistan before executing them in staged operations. The ultimate aim, observers say, is to suppress the freedom movement in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK) and regain political credibility domestically for the Modi-led BJP government.

Source: https://islamabadpost.com.pk/indian-mp-claims-pakistan-downed-rafale-jet-shows-photos/
 
Ball Blazer said:
Opposition member asks Modi govt to do a parade of all Rafale fighter jets to show the world that India didn't lose any Rafale jets against Pakistan.

The Indian opposition mounted a scathing attack on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government during a heated Lok Sabha session, following claims by a Member of Parliament that a Rafale fighter jet was shot down during the May engagement with Pakistan.

Amarinder Singh Raja, a Lok Sabha member, stunned the Lower House by revealing images of the Rafale jet’s wreckage, which he claimed had fallen near the Bhisiana Air Force Station in Punjab. He cited the serial number on the aircraft’s tail as evidence, further asserting that an Indian air marshal had confirmed the downing of the French-made jet.

Amritsar MP Gurjit Singh Aujla escalated pressure on the Modi-led government, demanding that all 35 Rafale aircraft acquired by India be paraded before the media to verify their operational status.

Opposition slams Operation Mahadev, calls it diversion

Adding fuel to the fire, Samajwadi Party chief Akhilesh Yadav raised serious questions about the so-called “Operation Mahadev”, in which Home Minister Amit Shah claimed that three perpetrators of the Pahalgam attack were killed. Yadav questioned the timing of the encounter, saying, “Why did this encounter happen just yesterday? Why was the vehicle carrying RDX in the Pulwama attack never found?”

The MP called the Pahalgam incident the result of intelligence failure. “What action has been taken so far on the serious intelligence failure?” he questioned.

Yadav also questioned the government’s silence on China’s alleged incursion into Indian territory: “How much of our land has China taken? Why has it never been disclosed to the nation?”

He even mocked the ceremonial rituals performed on Rafale jets when they were inducted into the Indian Air Force, asking how many of them had since been damaged.

Priyanka Gandhi criticizes Modi’s leadership
Congress leader Priyanka Gandhi joined the opposition’s chorus, accusing Modi of avoiding accountability while being eager to claim credit for any positive development.

“Be it Operation Sindoor or an Olympic gold medal — Modi ji always pats himself on the back. He takes credit, but never responsibility,” she said during her address in the Lok Sabha.

The Indian PM, who was not present in the session, faced criticism for avoiding parliamentary accountability amidst growing questions over national security failures and alleged cover-ups.

India has reportedly launched a new clandestine military campaign, ‘Operation Mahadev’, aimed at masking the failure of its earlier plan, Operation Sindoor, by orchestrating a wave of fake encounters involving illegally detained Pakistanis and Kashmiris, security sources revealed.

According to details, the sinister plan allegedly involves declaring prisoners already in Indian custody as cross-border infiltrators or terrorists from Pakistan before executing them in staged operations. The ultimate aim, observers say, is to suppress the freedom movement in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK) and regain political credibility domestically for the Modi-led BJP government.

Source: https://islamabadpost.com.pk/indian-mp-claims-pakistan-downed-rafale-jet-shows-photos/
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They should also show Shivangi Singh who hasn't been seen in public since May 7. :inti

Despicable regime. Can't even honor their deads.
 
Major said:
For indians it is possible to deny. They still celebrate Abhinandan as some hero.....

It doesnt matter for me if we gunned down 2 or 3. Even 1 rafale being gunned down by us is a very big achievement and gives a confidence boost on our airforce.

Pakistans strategy is on defensive side and not attacking since india outnumber us in the equipment they got, yet getting their most expensive and best plane out with our very low price plane is just insane
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Indians hit bahwalpur in Pakistani phnjab what confidence it give about your Air Force
 
Major said:
For indians it is possible to deny. They still celebrate Abhinandan as some hero.....

It doesnt matter for me if we gunned down 2 or 3. Even 1 rafale being gunned down by us is a very big achievement and gives a confidence boost on our airforce.

Pakistans strategy is on defensive side and not attacking since india outnumber us in the equipment they got, yet getting their most expensive and best plane out with our very low price plane is just insane
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In other words Choti-Choti khushiyan a.k.a minnow mentality that is visible in Cricket matches wherein you guys celebrate a few wkts lol ... I wonder what you guys would do if your Airforce could pull off precision strikes at EVEN ONE Single prominent Indian air-base ( Let alone 11 of them lol )


Heres how a real pounding by Brahmos looks like from space --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAs3QmRifyw
 
Devadwal said:
The 3 Rafales (BS-021, BS-022, BS-027) that Pakistan Air Force foolishly claimed to have shot down are gearing up for Indian Air Force–US Air Force air combat drills next month (Ex Cope India 2025)

The lie’s about to explode in their faces.

:klopp :kp
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So you are saying they were other 6 planes besides 1 rafale? 🤔
 
This loss lives in Indian minds rent free lmao, every other day there is a new post of coping and mental gymnastics… still stuck in denial stage of 5 stages of grief after months, In Sha Allah you guys reach the acceptance stage soon for your own wellbeing 😌 :asghar :wenger
 
Suleiman said:
This loss lives in Indian minds rent free lmao, every other day there is a new post of coping and mental gymnastics… still stuck in denial stage of 5 stages of grief after months, In Sha Allah you guys reach the acceptance stage soon for your own wellbeing 😌 :asghar :wenger
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Wait till they lose INS Vikrtant... so asking for it to be sunk. They will have to build a replica wooden model for Modi to take pictures with afterwards :D
 
Suleiman said:
This loss lives in Indian minds rent free lmao, every other day there is a new post of coping and mental gymnastics… still stuck in denial stage of 5 stages of grief after months, In Sha Allah you guys reach the acceptance stage soon for your own wellbeing 😌 :asghar :wenger
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If they think they have won, why do they have to convince others they won? :inti

Very strange people.
 
Major said:
@Rajdeep Im not bothering to read that long essay.

Read the OP,
A high-ranking French intelligence official told CNN today that one Rafale fighter jet operated by the Indian Air Force was downed by Pakistan

He never said he is making this claim on the basis of a report from Pakistan.
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High ranking hai, who knows? No name anywhere
 
Devadwal said:
I don't care about radical Islamists views :klopp :kp
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Once again, in your worldview that apparently means every Muslim, which probably explains the frustration, you’re only capable of convincing Hindutvas. Arnab style.
 
@straighttalk 😭😭🥲

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According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Military Balance 2026 report, a Chinese-made PL-15E long-range air-to-air missile played a decisive role in the loss of an Indian Rafale EH fighter jet during a May 2025 conflict with Pakistan known as "Operation Sindoor." This engagement, potentially the longest beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air combat in history, saw Pakistan deploy Chengdu J-10CE and JF-17 Thunder Block III fighters to counter Indian activity without either side crossing the other's airspace. The IISS highlights a significant range advantage for the PL-15E, which is credited with a 190 km reach that outpaces the 150 km range of the Meteor missiles typically carried by Indian Rafales. This incident served as a critical real-world test of Chinese military technology against high-end Western platforms, leading to a shift in Pakistan’s internal military balance by boosting the operational credibility of the PAF through its use of Chinese hardware and AI-enabled capabilities. While uncertainties remain regarding India's specific missile loadout and rules of engagement during the clash, the event is expected to significantly influence future regional defense strategies and arms procurement trends.

thewire.in

Long-range Export Version of Chinese Missile Led to Loss of Indian Aircraft Against Pakistan: IISS

“The unprecedented 88-hour conflict was the most significant, if restrained, military escalation between the two nuclear-armed countries in decades,” the report notes.
thewire.in thewire.in
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@straighttalk 😭😭🥲

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According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Military Balance 2026 report, a Chinese-made PL-15E long-range air-to-air missile played a decisive role in the loss of an Indian Rafale EH fighter jet during a May 2025 conflict with Pakistan known as "Operation Sindoor." This engagement, potentially the longest beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air combat in history, saw Pakistan deploy Chengdu J-10CE and JF-17 Thunder Block III fighters to counter Indian activity without either side crossing the other's airspace. The IISS highlights a significant range advantage for the PL-15E, which is credited with a 190 km reach that outpaces the 150 km range of the Meteor missiles typically carried by Indian Rafales. This incident served as a critical real-world test of Chinese military technology against high-end Western platforms, leading to a shift in Pakistan’s internal military balance by boosting the operational credibility of the PAF through its use of Chinese hardware and AI-enabled capabilities. While uncertainties remain regarding India's specific missile loadout and rules of engagement during the clash, the event is expected to significantly influence future regional defense strategies and arms procurement trends.

thewire.in

Long-range Export Version of Chinese Missile Led to Loss of Indian Aircraft Against Pakistan: IISS

“The unprecedented 88-hour conflict was the most significant, if restrained, military escalation between the two nuclear-armed countries in decades,” the report notes.
thewire.in thewire.in
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Probably a good lesson for our resident fraud @finalfantasy7 to present legitimate evidence like you did.
I think the fact that a jet or maybe two were lost on day 1 has been accepted by our cds ..no one here is denying that. As for how that jet was hit...anything is possible. Since the quoted organization has no real information or data available ..we can accept that its own possibility. Only iaf and to some extent PAF might know. Lot of things are possible..slow intelligence on real missile range, Indian rules of engagement, pure bad luck or good luck, dummy signature making the world think it actually hit something...

The bigger question is the aggressive air force has to hit their objectives while the defensive air force has its ground missiles and is in an air to air formation. What OP Sindoor she showed is India can hit at will any terror hqs and any air base and Paksitan cannot do anything about it . Paksitan on the other hand could not hit anything worthwhile in India as nothing can be hidden form Chinese or maxar satellites. It can be argued that damage done on Pak airbases were not massive...we just got some radars hq19 planes hangars runways..but enough to get Paksitan to suspend their banyan masoos.

This is the key..whatever Pak achieved was on day 1 and ceasefire didn't happen. Day 1 Pak got a jet and failed to protect its terrorists. There after Pak failed to hit anything worthwhile in India and India hit multiple airbases and radars. Result is the outcome

Punish and kill terrorists - Indias only objective achieved. Paf proven unable to protect terrorists or its own bases.

IWT suspended- pak couldn't do anything Abt it and accepted ceasefire

Kahsmir mediation or talk or third party- not happening .Pak can't do anything Abt it


Prevent future terrorist attacks - to be seen but Balakot brought 6 years of peace. So hopeful.

Pak accuses India of sponsoring Baloch and trp- either pak accepts it's bs or they are admitting they can't do anything about it as paf cannot take on India.

So all in all the objectives and war outcome is listed above. In the process India lost a plane or two and downed few Pak jets on ground and air. Agreed no evidence behind the bholari AWACS and f16 shown.

If you now look at the moved made by Pakistan and India ..it's very revealing

Pak created a new rocket force...admitting what it had didn't operate logistically.

Pak asked for better Sam's from USA...your minister is requesting publicly...admitting that hq19 failed.

India is buying more s400 and rafales indicating they worked superbly .

I will leave PAF looking for fifth gen because that makes a whole lot of sense outside or what happened in the war.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
@straighttalk 😭😭🥲

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According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Military Balance 2026 report, a Chinese-made PL-15E long-range air-to-air missile played a decisive role in the loss of an Indian Rafale EH fighter jet during a May 2025 conflict with Pakistan known as "Operation Sindoor." This engagement, potentially the longest beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air combat in history, saw Pakistan deploy Chengdu J-10CE and JF-17 Thunder Block III fighters to counter Indian activity without either side crossing the other's airspace. The IISS highlights a significant range advantage for the PL-15E, which is credited with a 190 km reach that outpaces the 150 km range of the Meteor missiles typically carried by Indian Rafales. This incident served as a critical real-world test of Chinese military technology against high-end Western platforms, leading to a shift in Pakistan’s internal military balance by boosting the operational credibility of the PAF through its use of Chinese hardware and AI-enabled capabilities. While uncertainties remain regarding India's specific missile loadout and rules of engagement during the clash, the event is expected to significantly influence future regional defense strategies and arms procurement trends.

thewire.in

Long-range Export Version of Chinese Missile Led to Loss of Indian Aircraft Against Pakistan: IISS

“The unprecedented 88-hour conflict was the most significant, if restrained, military escalation between the two nuclear-armed countries in decades,” the report notes.
thewire.in thewire.in
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Do you understand what the highlighted word implies in that link you provided ?

Also since when did you start accepting Indian media reports ? :ROFLMAO:
 
straighttalk said:
Probably a good lesson for our resident fraud @finalfantasy7[/B][/SIZE] to present legitimate evidence like you did.
I think the fact that a jet or maybe two were lost on day 1 has been accepted by our cds ..no one here is denying that. As for how that jet was hit...anything is possible. Since the quoted organization has no real information or data available ..we can accept that its own possibility. Only iaf and to some extent PAF might know. Lot of things are possible..slow intelligence on real missile range, Indian rules of engagement, pure bad luck or good luck, dummy signature making the world think it actually hit something...

The bigger question is the aggressive air force has to hit their objectives while the defensive air force has its ground missiles and is in an air to air formation. What OP Sindoor she showed is India can hit at will any terror hqs and any air base and Paksitan cannot do anything about it . Paksitan on the other hand could not hit anything worthwhile in India as nothing can be hidden form Chinese or maxar satellites. It can be argued that damage done on Pak airbases were not massive...we just got some radars hq19 planes hangars runways..but enough to get Paksitan to suspend their banyan masoos.

This is the key..whatever Pak achieved was on day 1 and ceasefire didn't happen. Day 1 Pak got a jet and failed to protect its terrorists. There after Pak failed to hit anything worthwhile in India and India hit multiple airbases and radars. Result is the outcome

Punish and kill terrorists - Indias only objective achieved. Paf proven unable to protect terrorists or its own bases.

IWT suspended- pak couldn't do anything Abt it and accepted ceasefire

Kahsmir mediation or talk or third party- not happening .Pak can't do anything Abt it


Prevent future terrorist attacks - to be seen but Balakot brought 6 years of peace. So hopeful.

Pak accuses India of sponsoring Baloch and trp- either pak accepts it's bs or they are admitting they can't do anything about it as paf cannot take on India.

So all in all the objectives and war outcome is listed above. In the process India lost a plane or two and downed few Pak jets on ground and air. Agreed no evidence behind the bholari AWACS and f16 shown.

If you now look at the moved made by Pakistan and India ..it's very revealing

Pak created a new rocket force...admitting what it had didn't operate logistically.

Pak asked for better Sam's from USA...your minister is requesting publicly...admitting that hq19 failed.

India is buying more s400 and rafales indicating they worked superbly .

I will leave PAF looking for fifth gen because that makes a whole lot of sense outside or what happened in the war.
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Why does this class 🤡keep contradictitng himself - a jet or maybe 2 - youve been telling me pak didnt down no indian jets, ive caught you lying numerous of times in this thread, you stated india took down 6 pak jets, you said india briefing was correct - in the briefing indians admitting taking no pak jets, you claimed the iaf chief minister is correctyet he claimed 5 pak f16 were downed - he took 3 months to say this

then you backtracked so hard - you been saying in the sindhoor thread - india took down 3 pak jets - but i thought it was 6 - no wait you changed to 5 - o wait past few weeks you been saying 3 pak jets were down = ANSWER IS 0 isnt it :ROFLMAO:


you wrote above = slow intelligence on real missile range, Indian rules of engagement, pure bad luck or good luck, dummy signature making the world think it actually hit something ==== what are you drinking, it better be apple juice, = you didnt actually make any sense here = just wrote a load of crap, for the sake of it, typical clown 🤡
then he writes = What OP Sindoor she showed is India can hit at will any terror hqs and any air base and Paksitan cannot do anything about it . Paksitan on the other hand could not hit anything worthwhile in India as nothing can be hidden form Chinese or maxar satellites. It can be argued that damage done on Pak airbases were not massive...we just got some radars hq19 planes hangars runways === thats funny considering colonel sophie in her briefing admitting that we hit numerous of your bases - even @The Bald Eagle and i shared the exact same videos confirming your bases being hit - videos taken from your own indian journalists....
You didnt even know anything about you lot ttaking down your own helicopter killing everyone on board - yet again = i was the only one who showed you the video from your own indian source - a defense journalists,

i also listed numerous of you own mps in parliment crying about the heavy loss you took from us, i supplied numerous of indian news articles showing those mps = but yet thr fake.

i shown you this video numerous of times -

Pravin Sawhney evaluates what's happened so far in Op. Sindoor & likelihood of further escalation:​



yet you claimed they dont know anything.....


your above reposne shows everyone that your a clown, you worded your response as you accept the DOMINATION WE GAVE YOU,,,,,,, yet you've added aload of fake crap trying to make india didnt get dominated.... even @uppercut the other class 🤡 post at 270 - shows your just a paid little troll.


Keep contradicting yourself @straighttalk - what a embarrassment.......


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Rajdeep said:
You didnt. I dont know who this French official is but he is saying based on reports from Pakistan. Read this and I want you to read this carefully:

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After India launched ‘Operation Sindoor’ on terror training camps in Pakistan to avenge the Pahalgam terror attack, Islamabad claimed that it had downed India’s most advanced Rafale fighter jet, not one but three.

However, Pakistan has not given any video evidence or even an image of the downed Indian fighters yet. There is one unverified video circulating on social media where the underwing section of an aircraft is filmed by the locals. Open Source intelligence platforms are claiming it to be the underwing section of the Rafale fighter.

Further, some social media accounts posted pictures of the wreckage of an aircraft bearing serial number 001, claiming that this was India’s first Dassault Rafale EH fighter jet. The pictures were allegedly taken in the Indian city of Bathinda.

Defense analyst and an avid PLA watcher, Rick Joe, also posted videos allegedly from Bathinda in India that claim to show the engine of the crashed fighter jet. Joe said that from the distinct nozzle screw pattern on the engine, it looks like a part of M88 (Indian Rafale jet’s engine) and not M53 (Indian Mirage 2000’s engine).

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However, in another tweet a few hours later, he seemed to doubt his own theory.

Additionally, the BS-001 image of the claimed Rafale fighter first appeared in September 2004.

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A Chinese media outlet, Global Times, claimed that Pakistan had shot down three Indian fighter jets. However, the claims were refuted by the Indian Embassy in China.

“Dear Global Times, we would recommend you verify your facts and cross-examine your sources before pushing out this kind of disinformation,” the Indian embassy in China said in a post on X.


Some Pakistan-affiliated accounts on the social media platform X are also posting videos of a crashed Indian MiG-29. However, the video is from September 2024, when the IAF lost a MiG-29 in the Barmer sector in Rajasthan.

The Press Information Bureau (PIB) also refuted these claims.

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“An old image showing a crashed aircraft is being re-circulated by pro-Pakistan handles in various forms in the current context of #OperationSindoor,” Press Information Bureau’s (PIB) Fact Check handle said on X, adding that the image is from an earlier incident involving an Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-29 fighter jet that crashed in Rajasthan’s Barmer in September 2024.



According to PIB, another image circulating on social media shows a crashed IAF MiG-21 fighter in Moga district in Punjab in 2021.

Some accounts on platform X claimed that the downed fighter was not a Rafale but a Mirage-2000, another French-made fighter aircraft.

Meanwhile, Indian media outlet The Hindu tweeted that three Indian fighter jets have crashed in the Akhnoor sector of Jammu and Kashmir. However, the tweet was later deleted.

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US media outlet CNN quoted Pakistani defense sources as claiming that they have shot down five Indian fighter jets, including three Rafale jets, one MiG-29, and one Su-30MKI fighter jet.

AFP news agency published an image of an aircraft wreckage lying in a field next to a red-brick building. However, it could not be ascertained which air force this fighter jet belonged to.

Meanwhile, speaking in the Pakistani parliament, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif also claimed that they have shot down five Indian fighter jets, including three Rafales.


He further claimed that as many as 80 Indian aircraft participated in the operation.

“About 75-80 Indian fighter jets” were part of the offensive, he said, adding that India also lost a couple of drones.

In a statement to reporters, Pakistani security officials said their forces downed three French-built Rafale fighter jets, one MiG-29, one Su-30MKI, and an Israeli-made Heron drone, describing the action as taken “in self-defense.”

The claim was reiterated by Pakistan’s military spokesperson, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Sharif Chaudhary, who listed the same aircraft in a video statement released through Reuters. No details were provided about the precise locations or methods of the alleged shootdowns.

However, due to the multiple claims swirling on social media and the lack of evidence or confirmation from official sources, the EurAsian Times can not independently verify any of these claims at this moment.

It is worth noting that earlier, Pakistan had claimed that it had jammed four Indian Rafale fighters flying close to the Line of Control (LoC) on the night of April 29-30, forcing them to retreat and make emergency landings. Pakistan’s Defense Minister Khawaja Asif claimed that Pakistan jammed Indian Rafale fighters using Chengdu J-10C fighters.

However, the reports remained unverified.

The Indian Army has confirmed the multiple strikes on terror camps in Pakistan, but has not acknowledged that Pakistan shot down any of its fighter jets. A senior IAF official spoke with the EurAsian Times on condition of anonymity and refuted Pakistani claims that an Indian fighter jet had been shot down by Pakistan.

“All our pilots are safely back home,” the IAF official said. However, the official did not say that all our fighter jets are safely back home.


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Since it is already more than twelve hours since the air strikes were launched, it is hard to believe that so far, Pakistan has not been able to find any credible evidence of the downed Indian aircraft.

The Pakistani armed forces, already facing a loss of credibility and reputation, as India was able to strike deep inside Pakistani territory despite the Pakistani armed forces being on high alert and anticipating an Indian attack, would have been eager to showcase to the world the video evidence of the downed fighter.

If confirmed, this would be the first loss of an Indian Rafale fighter jet. The IAF has 36 Rafale fighter jets in its arsenal, brought in a government-to-government contract in 2016. This would also be IAF’s first combat loss since Balakot 2019, when the IAF lost a MiG-21 Bison in an air duel with Pakistan.

Last month, India and France also inked an agreement to purchase 26 Rafale-M, the naval variant of the fighter jet, in a Rs 63,000 crore (approx. $7.5B) deal.

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1st Ever Rafale Shootdown? Has India Crashed Its 'Prized' French Jet During "Op. Sindoor" As Pakistan Claims?

After India launched ‘Operation Sindoor’ on terror training camps in Pakistan to avenge the Pahalgam terror attack, Islamabad claimed that it had downed India’s most advanced Rafale fighter jet, not one but three. However, Pakistan has not given any video evidence or even an image of the downed...
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@Rajdeep - the first pic is real - even the frech accept that as the rafael was down - we all know youve ran away, 🤡 🤡 🤡
 
Rajdeep said:
You need to understand the context on which he said. Understand fully before jumping up and down.

No Rafael jet has been brought down and this theory has been bunked multiple times.

Your defence minister live on CNN saying 5 jets have been down and his evidence is social media. It is comical
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@Rajdeep u class clown 🤡🤡🤡
 
Rajdeep said:
First of all, there is a lot of ambiguity surrounding any report of a plane being shot down. However, even if we accept that one Rafale jet was indeed downed, it's not a significant loss in the broader context. In any war or military operation, casualties are expected—soldiers will die, and tanks or jets will be destroyed. If Pakistanis are celebrating the downing of a single Indian jet, that sets a rather low bar, in my opinion. India did what it needed to do, fully aware of the risks involved. If the mission was executed successfully with only one plane lost, then, in the grand scheme of things, it was a well-executed operation.

I know this thread will go to multiple pages and Pak posters will rejoice but just wanted to highlight. Infact I have said the same thing in the morning when this news first broke out.
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@Rajdeep u class clown 🤡🤡🤡 - your nearly speaking the truth, still lying like a indian
 
Rajdeep said:
So basically, what you're saying is that it's considered a good achievement by your military standards. Fair enough—it's all about perspective and how we choose to view it.

For example, in a cricket match, a team might score 300 runs and consider it a significant achievement. But for teams like India, the standards may be higher, and they aim for much more.

From an outsider's perspective, the celebration over downing a single jet does come across as a bit over the top.
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@Rajdeep u class clown 🤡🤡🤡
 
uppercut said:
In other words Choti-Choti khushiyan a.k.a minnow mentality that is visible in Cricket matches wherein you guys celebrate a few wkts lol ... I wonder what you guys would do if your Airforce could pull off precision strikes at EVEN ONE Single prominent Indian air-base ( Let alone 11 of them lol )


Heres how a real pounding by Brahmos looks like from space --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAs3QmRifyw
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@uppercut the typical 🤡 that he is - been posting doctored pics - yet again
 
HalBass9 said:
You’ve been at this forever, and somehow only managed to convince two people, @uppercut and @cricketjoshila, @straighttalk who were already sold before the IAF jets even went down.

Be better than Arnab.
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you spke the trruth, brother...


too bad the below sanghis - are just plain 🤡 🤡 🤡 :

@Rajdeep @cricketjoshila @Champ_Pal @Devadwal @uppercut @straighttalk @Vikram1989 @Romali_rotti @Bhaijaan @Cover Drive Six @rickroll @RexRex @rpant_gabba, @kron @globetrotter @Hitman @jnaveen1980 @Local.Dada @CrIc_Mystique @Van_Sri @nish_mate @SportsWarrior @kaayal @saimayubera @JaDed @Prince of Dorne @Crying Out Loud @just a fan
 
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