Gary Kirsten's journey with Pakistan's white-ball side: Performance Watch

[MenInG]

So seems his tenure has started with a unique situation, as he has probably become the first coach in cricket history to have seen a loss and win on the same night!

Jokes aside, what

1. Can we expect from him
2. Does he have a fair chance of showing his skills with the squad he is given?

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

The only thing I expect from him to resign post T20WC.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Give him 5 years and full autonomy.

 

[mominsaigol]

I've been saying it multiple times.

Gary won't do anything. He's here for a paycheck. Which coach wants to work in his setup?

This set up is hell bent on making babar, chacha, rizwan, shadab and shaheen as the golden cake boys.

Babar is not a t20 player. He's an odi no 3 and test no 4 bas. Rizwan isn't an odi player or t20 player. He's a test no 6 bas.

Shaheen needs to go and so does shadab, shaheen cam come back once he learns to bowl back to his 2019 era.

Shadab can come back to do the dishes and laundry for pur new jersey, not for playing and representation his nation.

And chacha needs to a retirement home.

 

[RidiculousMan]

So seems his tenure has started with a unique situation, as he has probably become the first coach in cricket history to have seen a loss and win on the same night!

Jokes aside, what

1. Can we expect from him
2. Does he have a fair chance of showing his skills with the squad he is given?

He's here for the fat cheque. That's all.

He's a professional and he knows without a long-term process and planning he cannot achieve high results. He also knows as a coach that no decent foreign coach would take a job with PCB at current situation.

He'll collect his cheque and leave after the WT20.

 

[emranabbas]

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He will be scapegoat after WC 24 and will be sacked or the managment will change after WC and he will be sacked for new coaches

 

[RidiculousMan]

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He will be scapegoat after WC 24 and will be sacked or the managment will change after WC and he will be sacked for new coaches

As if he cares about this team

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Gary Kirsten will join the national men’s side in Leeds on 19 May to commence his two-year tenure as the white-ball head coach, the Pakistan Cricket Board announced today.

Kirsten’s arrival will be three days prior to the start of the four-match T20I series against England at Headingley on Wednesday, 22 May. The series will be followed by the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 in the United States and Caribbean, with Pakistan taking on the hosts in its opener in Dallas on 6 June.

The 56-year-old South African was confirmed as the white-ball head coach along with Jason Gillespie as red-ball head coach last month. The Australian will arrive in Pakistan in July for August’s ICC World Test Championship fixtures against Bangladesh to start his journey.

Apart from next month’s ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 and other bilateral white-ball series, Kirsten will be the head coach for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan, ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2026 in India and Sri Lanka, and the ACC T20 Asia Cup 2025.

Gary Kirsten:

“I'm truly excited to embark on this new journey with the Pakistan men’s cricket team. It's an honor to coach such a talented and dynamic team, and I’m eager to contribute to their success on the international stage.

“These are indeed thrilling times for Pakistan cricket, with a new administration and players who are driven to deliver solid results. The upcoming ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 presents a fantastic opportunity for us to showcase our skills and uphold Pakistan's legacy as a formidable force in cricket.

“However, success will require collective effort, meticulous planning and unwavering support for one another. With 19 other teams vying for the title, we must consistently outperform our rivals to realise our aspirations.

“On a personal level, I’ve missed the experience of coaching at the international level and nurturing talented players to reach their full potential. I’m committed to working closely with the team to elevate their game and bring joy to fans around the world.”

Meanwhile, the PCB, on the recommendation of the team management, has added Simon Helmot (fielding coach) and David Reid (mental performance coach) to the player support personnel.

Reid will join the side on 20 May and will continue till the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024, while Helmot will team up with the national side on 31 May for the USA and Caribbean event. Aftab Khan, who is presently serving the side as the fielding coach, will assume responsibilities of High-Performance Coach for the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup following the arrival.

Source: PCB

 

[mumtaz]

"Aftab Khan, who is presently serving the side as the fielding coach, will assume responsibilities of High-Performance Coach for the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup following the arrival."

PCB comedy at its best.

 

[hassan918]

Gary Kirsten will join the national men’s side in Leeds on 19 May to commence his two-year tenure as the white-ball head coach, the Pakistan Cricket Board announced today.

Kirsten’s arrival will be three days prior to the start of the four-match T20I series against England at Headingley on Wednesday, 22 May. The series will be followed by the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 in the United States and Caribbean, with Pakistan taking on the hosts in its opener in Dallas on 6 June.

The 56-year-old South African was confirmed as the white-ball head coach along with Jason Gillespie as red-ball head coach last month. The Australian will arrive in Pakistan in July for August’s ICC World Test Championship fixtures against Bangladesh to start his journey.

Apart from next month’s ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 and other bilateral white-ball series, Kirsten will be the head coach for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan, ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2026 in India and Sri Lanka, and the ACC T20 Asia Cup 2025.

Gary Kirsten:

“I'm truly excited to embark on this new journey with the Pakistan men’s cricket team. It's an honor to coach such a talented and dynamic team, and I’m eager to contribute to their success on the international stage.

“These are indeed thrilling times for Pakistan cricket, with a new administration and players who are driven to deliver solid results. The upcoming ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024 presents a fantastic opportunity for us to showcase our skills and uphold Pakistan's legacy as a formidable force in cricket.

“However, success will require collective effort, meticulous planning and unwavering support for one another. With 19 other teams vying for the title, we must consistently outperform our rivals to realise our aspirations.

“On a personal level, I’ve missed the experience of coaching at the international level and nurturing talented players to reach their full potential. I’m committed to working closely with the team to elevate their game and bring joy to fans around the world.”

Meanwhile, the PCB, on the recommendation of the team management, has added Simon Helmot (fielding coach) and David Reid (mental performance coach) to the player support personnel.

Reid will join the side on 20 May and will continue till the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2024, while Helmot will team up with the national side on 31 May for the USA and Caribbean event. Aftab Khan, who is presently serving the side as the fielding coach, will assume responsibilities of High-Performance Coach for the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup following the arrival.

Source: PCB

A T20I series in England against England won't be an easy first task for him with Pakistan team. He did a good job with team India, let's see how it goes for him with team Pakistan.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

PCB is looking for a good supporting cast for Gary Kirsten.

 

[Farah Sohail]

What about batting and bowling coaches?

 

[Farah Sohail]

Why are the above mentioned vacancies, specifically fielding coach, for white ball only? What about tests? Why cant they be hired, across all formats? As for now, i dont think we have a fielding coach for tests also…Why?

 

[Varun]

I was reading VVS Laxman's autobiography - 281 and beyond.

Compared to Chappell before him and Fletcher after him, Kirsten was a legend, even better than John Wright.

Good pick for Pakistan.

 

[Savak]

I was reading VVS Laxman's autobiography - 281 and beyond.

Compared to Chappell before him and Fletcher after him, Kirsten was a legend, even better than John Wright.

Good pick for Pakistan.

The Indian team after Greg Chappels tenure was suffering from precisely what the Pakistani team is going through right now, lack of confidence, infighting, senior players looking out for themselves vs the team, Tendulkar's motivation, moral was at an all time low and he at one point thought about walking away from the game, the players in general were suspicious of everyone's motives and no one was going out of their way to help each other.

Kirsten before his appointment requested the BCCI to allow him to stay with the Indian team so that he can shadow and assess the team, Kirsten stayed silent on the tour and let the team, players do whatever they wanted while he monitored on the sidelines.

Once Kirsten was formally appointed, he came up with a series of out of the box team excercises where the players were asked to do different minor group activities like a short play, short performances mimicking each other. The players at the time made fun of Kirsten i.e. what the hell is this guy doing, is he mad, this is pointless stuff but in the long run Kirsten encouraged the players to be open with each other, to embrace out of the box thinking, to think out of their comfort zones, there was no senior or junior player in the dressing room. Eventually the calm dressing room environment reflected positively on the team's performances.

This is not entirely all on Kirsten, India was very lucky to have MS Dhoni as captain as well during this era but if someone like Tendulkar can claim that Dhoni was the best captain he ever played under and Kirsten was the best coach he ever worked with then that is saying something.

 

[Varun]

Kirsten before his appointment requested the BCCI to allow him to stay with the Indian team so that he can shadow and assess the team, Kirsten stayed silent on the tour and let the team, players do whatever they wanted while he monitored on the sidelines.

A little trivia about this that I didn't know before reading the book: Kirsten first met the team in this capacity a day after the acrimonious Sydney 2008 test! He stayed for the duration of the test tour (2 more tests - win in Perth, draw in Adelaide).

Admittedly before Kirsten took over, we were doing pretty good even without a coach: test series win in England, World T20 2007 etc.