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How will Mohammad Rizwan's white-ball captaincy impact Pakistan cricket?

How will Mohammad Rizwan's white-ball captaincy impact Pakistan cricket?

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emranabbas said:
That's not written by him. He can't speak simple English, so you really think he's capable of writing that? it more likely written by the coach. Rizwan fans will even praise his farts and say wah kaptana kya khushboo hai, don't take it serious
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Indeed, Rizwan’s bongis will be written in sunehre haroof by his worshippers.

@Kianig89 is compiling the scriptures as we speak.
 
Golden words:

Ya tou win hai, ya you learn hai

Also:

Win and loss is from Allah Pak….

(Pakistan lose so many of their matches against teams that do not believe in Allah Pak at all btw)
 
Rana said:
Golden words:

Ya tou win hai, ya you learn hai

Also:

Win and loss is from Allah Pak….

(Pakistan lose so many of their matches against teams that do not believe in Allah Pak at all btw)
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Bro don't give them ideas.

Next thing to you whenever rizzu loses or fails his fans will say things like, Allah was against him today.

These types of arguments are endless
 
mominsaigol said:
Bro don't give them ideas.

Next thing to you whenever rizzu loses or fails his fans will say things like, Allah was against him today.

These types of arguments are endless
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“I will do whatever I want, whatever is best for me, and then the win or loss will be from Allah Pak”
 
Rana said:
“Me being greedy, selfish and thinking about myself is also the will of Allah Pak”
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I Firmly believe that in order to be a good captain, You need to be a good leader and motivator.

For example Kane Williamson hasn't won any icc cups but he's a fantastic captain nonetheless. The whole dugout respects him, and listens to him and their isnt a single complaint from anyone about him.

Infact he was the one who decided to have rachin ravindra open and gave the kid such a big push. Even the bowlers and fielders give it their all because they respect him and want to do the best for their captain.

Idrc about wins, Any captain who only cares about himself cannot be a good captain. That's a fact. It's a damn shame the batting didn't get exposed in the 2nd and 3rd odi so that people can hide behind the excuse of, it was his first game in the 1st odi.

Their still isn't any plan when it comes to batting. The opening pair Abdullah and saim aren't in sync, their just doing whatever they want.

Batting will get exposed eventually
 
To be completly fair to Rizwan I do want to explain the things I did like aka the positives and negatives.

Positives

1) He handled his bowling resources well and his field settings were good. I do appreciate him in going for the kill with his 4 pacers.

2) Drs Reviews: I'm glad he held the urge to review things right away and was able to calm his bowlers down, something that Babar never did.

3) He listens to bowlers on field settings, Babar did not.

Negatives

1) He still cant handle pressure. This isnt the first time this has happened as if I've seen this happen in psl as well.

Any time the opposition shows a little strength, he goes completly blank.

2) Batting is still a mess. Their is no plan of action. No one has any roles identified. In sarfi's era everyone knew what they had to do and what their roles were in the team.

Even now everyone is doing what they wish. Saim and Abdullah aren't in sync, rizwan at 4 isn't in sync with everyone else batting around him.

3) He's making the exact same mistake that Babar did which I highlighted in 2023 NZ series in that he's playing the exact same squad over and over again with zero rotations and this will eventually lead to injuries and a mentally drained side come CT
 
Rizwan haters need to calm down, no need to take Gods name in vain like this.

I know one of the hater is a minority, but lets be respectful and not bring in religion
 
Major said:
Rizwan haters need to calm down, no need to take Gods name in vain like this.

I know one of the hater is a minority, but lets be respectful and not bring in religion
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They will go as low as they can in hate if Rizwan
 
@Major

I saw your comment and @mods I don't mind it, anyway I will respond.

I don't want to be Rizwan anyway or any random cricketer.

Captaincy and playing for your country is a gods gift and normally one should honor such players. However in the sane way you cry non stop about imad and Amir and all these others cricketers you hate, I have a right to comment about rizzu.

He has turned the idea of representing your country into a joke because he just like his God father Misbah are very very selfish Whiteball batters who favour their own and both have gotten into the team via nepotism.

If I had those connections, I'd be in the team but I'd also be a disgrace to my country since in order to represent my country I need to be a fantastic player and one who plays fir the countries pride. Not some crybaby who claims I'm not happy batting at said no.

Misbah has a saving grace in that he was a fantastic red ball captain and a good red ball player. Rizzu has none. Zero.

I don't want to be rizwan as I'm happy with my life as is. It's free of criticism and it's surrounded by a beautiful family and a beautiful country.

You can consider me a random person all you want. Fame is a lie if misused.

Rizwan just like Amir/imad will due with way more haters then I'll ever have. And his supporters will eventually stop supporting him once he retires as not only does the world move on, but rizzu doesn't have the achievements nor is an atg batter or player that will be remembered much post retirement.

The only player who will be remembered is Babar due to marketing hype and statistics hype. Rizzu will be forgotten by many except you and a few others come the next decade but he'll die with more haters then me.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Mohammad Rizwan's captaincy style is likely to be aggressive, as seen in his successful stints in the PSL and other PCB domestic tournaments. Notably, he led Multan Sultans to their first PSL title in 2021.

Rizwan's leadership highlighted his ability to:

- Effective decision-making under pressure
- Ability to get the best out of players
- Balance between experience and youth

But captaining a team at the international level is a different challenge. Rizwan must focus on strengthening Pakistan's middle-order, making the batting lineup more resilient. He should also experiment with innovative bowling plans, especially in powerplay and death overs. Technically, I expect Rizwan to:

- Set clever fields to exploit opposition weaknesses
- Redefine player roles to optimize Pakistan's talented squad

Given Pakistan's recent white-ball performances, there's room for improvement. Taking over as white-ball captain and facing the added challenge of Gary Kirsten's resignation as white-ball coach makes Rizwan's task even more daunting. His first assignment, the upcoming Australia white-ball series, will be a significant test.

Let's discuss!
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Rizwan is by far the best candidate for captaincy. Under Babar and Shan Pakistan lost quite a few matches / series/ tournaments due to poor captaincy. Rizwan should have been the captain years ago but Sarfaraz Ahmed lobby kept him away.

Example : Rizwan only used 4 bowlers in first and third Odi because he calculated accurately that the match will be decided before the 40 over mark. So why use a 5th bowler (who is a part timer), keep the pressure on. This approach put great pressure on Australian batting. Now an average captain will never ever do that.
 
shah9425 said:
Nice essay by hater

We will not forget Rizwan even after his retirement
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As I said, you and a select few.

But genuinely speaking. You'll latch onto some other chawal eventually. Maybe Misbah's Son come the next decade lol
 
Earlier in this discussion, the main point was that Rizwan should have made the squad for the 2019 World Cup. Despite his impressive form, which included two centuries against Australia and consistent performances in domestic cricket, Sarfaraz kept him out of the squad. Rizwan deserved a spot based on merit, even though he couldn’t replace the captain. He could have contributed as a pure batsman. Unfortunately, dressing room politics and the seniority culture in Pakistan cricket played a significant role. Sarfaraz likely felt threatened by Rizwan’s talent, fearing he could lose his place to such a promising player.

In terms of the playing XI, Rizwan could have fit in well, especially considering the inconsistency of the batting lineup, with only Babar, Fakhar and Imam showing any real stability. As for Hafeez, his main value was as an all-rounder, but by 2019, he was finished as a bowler and had become a liability. He was primarily playing as a batsman by then, and as we all know, Hafeez was often a walking wicket. Haris Sohail, while capable, frequently struggled with fitness and fielding, and his attitude didn’t always contribute positively to the team dynamic. He was notorious for playing a match or two before injuries sidelined him for weeks.

If not from the start, Rizwan could have been introduced mid tournament, much like Shaheen, once other players underperformed. He was exactly the type of determined, fit player Pakistan needed at the time.
 
Caved12 said:
Earlier in this discussion, the main point was that Rizwan should have made the squad for the 2019 World Cup. Despite his impressive form, which included two centuries against Australia and consistent performances in domestic cricket, Sarfaraz kept him out of the squad. Rizwan deserved a spot based on merit, even though he couldn’t replace the captain. He could have contributed as a pure batsman. Unfortunately, dressing room politics and the seniority culture in Pakistan cricket played a significant role. Sarfaraz likely felt threatened by Rizwan’s talent, fearing he could lose his place to such a promising player.

In terms of the playing XI, Rizwan could have fit in well, especially considering the inconsistency of the batting lineup, with only Babar, Fakhar and Imam showing any real stability. As for Hafeez, his main value was as an all-rounder, but by 2019, he was finished as a bowler and had become a liability. He was primarily playing as a batsman by then, and as we all know, Hafeez was often a walking wicket. Haris Sohail, while capable, frequently struggled with fitness and fielding, and his attitude didn’t always contribute positively to the team dynamic. He was notorious for playing a match or two before injuries sidelined him for weeks.

If not from the start, Rizwan could have been introduced mid tournament, much like Shaheen, once other players underperformed. He was exactly the type of determined, fit player Pakistan needed at the time.
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Exactly insecure captain kept him out of the team
Meanwhile his only achievement from that tournament was this
 

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Rana said:
Why does Ponting offer praise or criticism to Pakistan when they are touring Australia, and never really giving Pakistan the light of day for the rest of the time?
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Because Ponting gets a clear picture of players calibre and looks like Rizwan has Australian mentality of playing the game
 
Kianig89 said:
Because Ponting gets a clear picture of players calibre and looks like Rizwan has Australian mentality of playing the game
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Rizwan has Australian mentality of playing the game?

Australia is one of the most terrifying teams to face in a final of any icc event.

Rizzu and chacha single handidely loat the asia cup final againat sri lanka in 2022? And rizzu went missing in 2022 final?

If rizwan truly had aussie mentality those botches wouldn't have occurred.

Australia has a habit of showing up. Even average and nothing special players like mattew wade and labu perform in icc knockout events and show up.

Their a team that knows how to win trophies and test series specially wtc and Ashes hence their trophy cabinet.

BGT is the only series where they've been medicore and haven't established dominance like they shpuld have.

Pakistan has always had to rely on quadrat ki nizam to won icc trophies. They've had to rely on 3 factors usually

No 1: RR and other teams messing up to allow themselves to qualify.

No 2: Not meeting Australia in a knock out stage, as Australia typically gets rid of NZ, SA and Pakistan irrespective of team strength whemever they meet on stage. Only sri lanka and india have shown the resolve to kick aus out on occasion but even then aus usually get rid of them as well.

No 3: Rain or Qudrat Ki Nizam by having one player who's not expected to perform pull a miracle. Example: Haris vs Bangladesh 2022, Fakhar vs NZ 2023, Asif Ali vs Afg and NZ 2021. On each occasion all 3 players were put of form and not performing yet Miracles happened.
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizwan has Australian mentality of playing the game?

Australia is one of the most terrifying teams to face in a final of any icc event.

Rizzu and chacha single handidely loat the asia cup final againat sri lanka in 2022? And rizzu went missing in 2022 final?

If rizwan truly had aussie mentality those botches wouldn't have occurred.

Australia has a habit of showing up. Even average and nothing special players like mattew wade and labu perform in icc knockout events and show up.

Their a team that knows how to win trophies and test series specially wtc and Ashes hence their trophy cabinet.

BGT is the only series where they've been medicore and haven't established dominance like they shpuld have.

Pakistan has always had to rely on quadrat ki nizam to won icc trophies. They've had to rely on 3 factors usually

No 1: RR and other teams messing up to allow themselves to qualify.

No 2: Not meeting Australia in a knock out stage, as Australia typically gets rid of NZ, SA and Pakistan irrespective of team strength whemever they meet on stage. Only sri lanka and india have shown the resolve to kick aus out on occasion but even then aus usually get rid of them as well.

No 3: Rain or Qudrat Ki Nizam by having one player who's not expected to perform pull a miracle. Example: Haris vs Bangladesh 2022, Fakhar vs NZ 2023, Asif Ali vs Afg and NZ 2021. On each occasion all 3 players were put of form and not performing yet Miracles happened.
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Rizwan took over the captaincy 3 games ago
His record is P 3 W 2 L 1

Everybody saw he is an all out Captain
 
This is what happens when you are not educated enough in cricket and get overexcited

You end up saying some of the most stupidest things to expose yourself.
 
Rana said:
One of the biggest chawwals I’ve heard on this forum
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The only team I see getting rid of Australia in a knockout stage is India and England tbh. Sri Lanka have done it in the past but that because their players Jaysuria, Aravinda , Sanga didn't back down and weren't ever afraid of them nor did they take pressure in such events.

Current sri lanka not a chance in hell.

SA, NZ, Pak, have frequently lost to aus even when they've had the superior side because these 3 teams don't have the mentality to deal with aus in a knockout event.

Afghanistan doesn't stand a chance, In a knock out event their minnow mentality shines through as shown againat sa in 2024.

England and India are the only ones who don't back down however India has been suffering a choke curse so no guarantee on them.

It's really England that doesn't back down and can get rid of them.

Rizwan will become a mental midget if he faces Australia in an icc final or semi final
 
There should also be an ICC chawli of the month award

“Rizwan has Australian mentality” will definitely win it.
 
mominsaigol said:
The only team I see getting rid of Australia in a knockout stage is India and England tbh. Sri Lanka have done it in the past but that because their players Jaysuria, Aravinda , Sanga didn't back down and weren't ever afraid of them nor did they take pressure in such events.

Current sri lanka not a chance in hell.

SA, NZ, Pak, have frequently lost to aus even when they've had the superior side because these 3 teams don't have the mentality to deal with aus in a knockout event.

Afghanistan doesn't stand a chance, In a knock out event their minnow mentality shines through as shown againat sa in 2024.

England and India are the only ones who don't back down however India has been suffering a choke curse so no guarantee on them.

It's really England that doesn't back down and can get rid of them.

Rizwan will become a mental midget if he faces Australia in an icc final or semi final
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Yes just like Rizwan got whitewashed in ODIs
 
Kianig89 said:
That really gave you shivers and chills down the spine, Pakistan won a series in Australia to keep you updated so relax
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All it did was give me the laugh of my life

“Rizwan has Australian mentality”

Nobel peace prize nominee in the field of bongis
 
Kianig89 said:
Yes just like Rizwan got whitewashed in ODIs
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You don't wish to listen to even discuss so their is no point.

For you rizwan is already the greatest captain pakistan has ever had as he's an aussie level player that'll fill pakistan's trophy cabinet and get us a spot at wtc and even win it.

For me, I'd like to live in reality. Even pakistan at its absolute peak during the 90's was hoping and praying Australia doesn't meet them in knockouts.

So were NZ and SA.

In the past only India, Sri lanka and England had a chance to wipe out aus from a knockout stage. In the current era only England and India
 
It’s funny how Babar and Rizwan have Australian mentality against Australia having not been the reason why Pakistan won against them…


But Pakistan have no mentality when they play against USA, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan with these two playing
 
Rizwan is a brand in his own right.

He will bring back our lost glory.
 
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Rana said:
It’s funny how Babar and Rizwan have Australian mentality against Australia having not been the reason why Pakistan won against them…


But Pakistan have no mentality when they play against USA, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan with these two playing
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When sarfaraz was replaced By rizwan in 2019, I was in favour at the time.

Sarfi was fat and unfit and it was only after he was sacked that he regained some fitness and played the NZ test century knock however he's aged and his reactions have slowed down.

Furthermore Babar seemed like a good choice to lead as he was a no 3 and I felt he'd improve day by day.

Never did I predict that not only he'd be a rubbish captain but he'd regress as a batter.

Similarly I was under the impression that we'd be getting a fitter and better wicket keeper for the no 6 to 8 slot in odi, t20 and tests like sarfi.

I didn't know that Rizzu would replace fakhar in t20 and Haris sohail in odi because I never rated rizzu as a batter only as a keeper. Similarly I didn't know Babar would regress as a batsmen and would gain weight.
 
One thing he has to be careful about with playing 4 seamers in the T20I format is the overrate.

In One Day series these pacers took some time to bowl but luckily they were able to bowl Australia out in under 40 overs both times. That might not be the case in 20 overs Cricket.
 
Rana said:
Golden words:

Ya tou win hai, ya you learn hai

Also:

Win and loss is from Allah Pak….

(Pakistan lose so many of their matches against teams that do not believe in Allah Pak at all btw)
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Stop being salty because you predicted that Sarfaraz Ahmed would be back as team captain by now. :)))

Everything happens with the will of Allah. 99% of Pakistan believes this and Rizwan, being the captain of the Pakistan team is reflecting the beliefs of his countrymen.
 
I said a couple of years ago that Mohammad Rizwan is the best captaincy candidate available in Pakistan. Better late than never, I guess.

Had the silly experiments with Shaheen, Babar and Masood not taken place, the team would have been in a much better place. As it stands, things are looking up, at least in the shorter formats.
 
Brilliant start from Rizwan but I am honestly not surprised. As captain of Multan he has always had a knack of getting the best even out of mediocre players like Iftikhar and Khushdil. The fact that it has taken this long to make him captain is a travesty considering the fact that he has easily outperformed all other captains both in the PSL and domestically

He is already our greatest keeper, now let's see if he can become on of our great captains
 
Rizwan should have been made captain instead of Babar when he was made for the 2nd time. That was a senseless decision to go back to Babar.

Anyways, things have started well for Rizwan. I hope he continues good work.
 
Bilal7 said:
Stop being salty because you predicted that Sarfaraz Ahmed would be back as team captain by now. :)))

Everything happens with the will of Allah. 99% of Pakistan believes this and Rizwan, being the captain of the Pakistan team is reflecting the beliefs of his countrymen.
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Everything happens with the will of Allah

@Rana ^^ Lol i told you, don't give em ideas. Eventually someone will come up and use this argument eventually
 
Major said:
Rizwan haters need to calm down, no need to take Gods name in vain like this.

I know one of the hater is a minority, but lets be respectful and not bring in religion
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Exactly! It must be a very challenging few weeks for them, with Pakistan winning the Test series against England, Rizwan becoming the captain of the Pakistan cricket team, and leading the team to a dominant ODI series win against Australia on their home turf.
 
mominsaigol said:
Everything happens with the will of Allah

@Rana ^^ Lol i told you, don't give em ideas. Eventually someone will come up and use this argument eventually
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It’s not the will of God when Shaheen struggles in his first tour as captain for this lot,

But at any point Rizwan struggles or it is hard to make out what the actual ploy is by Pakistan….it will become the will of God.

It’s the will of God that these people are hypocrites when it suits them best.
 
Rana said:
It’s not the will of God when Shaheen struggles in his first tour as captain for this lot,

But at any point Rizwan struggles or it is hard to make out what the actual ploy is by Pakistan….it will become the will of God.

It’s the will of God that these people are hypocrites when it suits them best.
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So God decided to have rizzu make a fool of himself in asia cup 2022 final?
 
mominsaigol said:
So God decided to have rizzu make a fool of himself in asia cup 2022 final?
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Yeah I mean you can go everywhere with this one argument on God’s will.

Especially in Rizwan’s case who is always awarded heavily for mediocrity.
 
Rana said:
Rizwan scored 2 hundreds in a losing cause against a rubbish Australia team missing most of its first teamers, they were by no means impressive tons…more like a desperate plea to beg for a spot in the side. Harris Sohail scored a 130ish in that series to show the actual difference in class between Rizwan and what it means to be a proper international standard batter.

He will continue to be pushed as something he isn’t no matter what, and the final result will be the same no matter what. Babar began his captaincy reign with a historic victory against India, Rizwan has done the same. By the end of it, the result will also be the same.
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CerebralPatriot said:
"Insecure of Rizwan" what a joke :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Unlike zinc lips, Safi was more than willing to give others a chance in useless bilaterals as he understood that these series are meaningless. Rizwan may have fluked two hundreds vs Australia D however he would have flopped miserably outside of the UAE. This is clear when you see his pathetic performances in the series before vs South Africa.

Misbah has committed many crimes however his vendetta against our greatest captain is easily the most reprehensible thing he's done
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The two hundreds vs Australia “D” was more than anything Sarfaraz did with the bat for two years. Sarfaraz didn’t deserve to play ahead of him in the World Cup and it was his insecurity that ensured that Rizwan didn’t even find a place in the squad.

However, life comes at you fast and Sarfaraz was sent packing by misbah only a couple of months after the World Cup and now he carries drinks and towels while Rizwan is captaining Pakistan.

Rizwan is a far better player than Sarfaraz and this reality is very difficult for Sarfaraz fans to accept.
 
Good changes in bowling lead to this.

1st 50 in 3.1 over
2nd 50 in 13.1 over

Pakistan pulled it back really well.
 
Rizwan needs to good batsmen and hitting batsmen for t20s who play bulk of the innings
 
Let me drop one harsh truth about the PSL drama too.

Multan plays 5 straight matches at home in their first leg.

They win all 5, they qualify for play offs.

Which team gets a benefit like this?
 
Rana said:
What’s the mithai shop where you place orders half way?

“0 IQ sweets: place orders to celebrate early. 100% refund if plan backfires”
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Tbf to Rizzu, he's been much better then Babar when it comes to drs reviews and onfield decisons and rotating bowlers.

But what's the point? Dude Is clueless when it comes to batting orders, And how to actually approach an innings. Everyone is just doing their own thing.

Like why can't this ATG captain just tell Usman Khan and niazi to play their natural game while he frequently rotates strike and trusts these 2 and also keeps the scoreboard ticking and ensures he himself isn't a burden?

What's the need to be heroic and act like he'll take charge when in reality he himself has no idea on how to chase the total down?

Better then Babar when it comes to field selections and bowler rotations, Worse then Babar when it comes to batting approaches, Equal to Babar when it comes to team selections and rotation policies.
 
I've noticed @Major Only talks about onfield decisons when it comes to praising misbah's captaincy and uses that as a metric to declare him and rizzu a goat all format cap.

He and a few others convientally ignore the other half, which is team selection policies, Batting orders, Team motivation, Team planning etc etc.

Both rizzu and misbah are extremely selfish batters who have no clue on how to approach an innings as everyone just does their own thing.

Stark contrast from someone like pat cummins who's a master at batting with each and every single one of his men and is a master motivator towards all his players in the playing 11.

All this saviour saviour nonsense, all I see are players who Try to get their 50's and not give a damn about the scoreboard or even care about how to talk to the batter batting at the other end.

Had rizzu scored a 50 today, People would be going on and on about how his 70 ball 50 anchored the innings and the team.let him down
 
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