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How will Mohammad Rizwan's white-ball captaincy impact Pakistan cricket?

How will Mohammad Rizwan's white-ball captaincy impact Pakistan cricket?

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moghul said:
He deserves the captaincy more than anyone else in contention but hopefully he will stay away from Yari dosti tradition and will not try to make a Pashto speaking group in the team. As captain he should be talking in national language while in the field while giving directions to players. Last time I checked Pashto was not Pakistan's national language and not all the players understand it.
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Why can't he speak pashto with other pashto-speaking players? Last time I checked, he's allowed to speak whatever language he wants.
 
He need English lessons in this age you cannot just ho out and use translator, absolutely embarrassing he has time to prepare for sermons but not working on his language skills.

Rizwan captaincy with Multan Sultans has been a mixed show , one cannot judge him whether he is an aggressive or a defensive captain.

Though his close circle claims that apart from Misbah he idolises Ponting as captain
 
RidiculousMan said:
Mohammad Rizwan averages 48 at a strike rate of 92 at no. 4. It's absolutely ridiculous to me that some people want him to bat at any other position other than 4.
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Fakhar isn't oppening so I will be tempted for him to open.
 
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Dr_Bassim said:
The first thing about naming a captain should be the player should be a respectful figure.

Rizwan is more interested in showboating for Broadway than playing cricket.

He is a very poor choice to lead a serious team like Pakistan.
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Are you saying the players in the squad dont respect Rizwan ??!!
 
mominsaigol said:
He did win 2 tournaments in a row when it comes to local leagues and he didn't have the best team in either of them.

To top it off, unlike Shan masood who's useless, Shadab actually hides himself and knows how to play like a specialist fielder.

Right now you have 2 captains in pakistan both of which ensure that pakistan unfortunately only plays with 10 players rather then 11 because both Shan and Rizwan are useless.

Shadab is also useless but he knows how to captain and knows how to hide himself.

Regardless captain in t20 should have been shaheen and he shpuld not have been removed. Saud for test and salman Ali Agha for odi.

This all format captain drama needs to end. Your beloved Misbah would have been considered an ATG had he he actually stuck to test captaincy only and called it quits in 2016.

His whiteball nonsense + coaching/ selecting stint created the hate for your hero that you witness in a daily basis.
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Shadab team then also plays with 10 players as like you said he hides himself.
 
shamaan said:
Shadab team then also plays with 10 players as like you said he hides himself.
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He hides himself yes. But he knows how to lead. He isn't an optimal choice for obvious reason though.

the era of Mike Breadley is over
 
One thing is sure , unlike Babar Rizwan will be clear in his mind about what to do let's see how he fares.

Already critics jumping up with matchsticks
 
Cricket Warrior said:
This Australia series will tell us alot about his leadership skills
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Too be a good leader one needs to be selfless.

And no steve waugh wasn't selfish just because a salty Bishop and Warne said so lol.

By selfless, you need to be willing to put the country before your own needs. And that means selecting the best possible combination and even foregoing your own positions if you aren't good enough.

For example neither Sarfaraz nor Shadab are good players however they both knew their exact positions and roles and defined roles for others. It is no coincidence shadab won 2 tournaments (psl and champions cup) back to back despite not having the best team.

Rizzu can't be selfless, he's the very definition of selfish since KG is clearly a better no 4 then he is.

So he's already failed one metric to determine who's a good captain.

The other metric is playing 11 + onfield tactics + his own form and performance. So yes we will see how that goes against aus
 
Rizwan is a poor choice to be captain. One should remember the reason why he has promoted as an opener because both Fakhar and Babar were rules out in that series. But he did well and cemented his place for good. But lately has become a liability in the team due to his selfish approach and politics within the team. Those who think he will do anything differently in australia are living in fools paradise.
 
moghul said:
He deserves the captaincy more than anyone else in contention but hopefully he will stay away from Yari dosti tradition and will not try to make a Pashto speaking group in the team. As captain he should be talking in national language while in the field while giving directions to players. Last time I checked Pashto was not Pakistan's national language and not all the players understand it.
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Ah him speaking in pashto is also causing pain to some. Pashto is his mother tongue and last time I checked there wasn't a ban on pashto in Pakistan.
 
They’ll be a lot of finger pointing on the odd occasions we actually get a wicket “hey see it was my idea, I put the fielder there”
 
Rizwan shared his thoughts with a Karachi Magazine

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Rizwan can't be a long term captain, he's 32 years old & he can't hide behind the captaincy either.

I wouldn't have wanted him as captain due to his age, but the candidates are miniscule.
 
He needs to cut down on all the drama baazi he does on and off the field and focus on being proactive. I think he has all the ingredients to be a good captain, just gotta use them wisely.
 
Kianig89 said:
Rizwan needs to make decisions on merit as captain, hopefully senior like Haris Rauf will not be selected he is a useless bowler.
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Haris and the other pacers need competition. Our bowlers get too comfortable and their fitness and performance drop.
 
TeymurBlake said:
Rizwan can't be a long term captain, he's 32 years old & he can't hide behind the captaincy either.

I wouldn't have wanted him as captain due to his age, but the candidates are miniscule.
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If he stays fit and results follow, he will keep his job.
 
alik said:
Why can't he speak pashto with other pashto-speaking players? Last time I checked, he's allowed to speak whatever language he wants.
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Its not only about Pashto, a Pujbabi speaking captain should also not talking in Punjabi when loudly giving instruction to the players in the field or discussing any strategy , it just create a negative impact oo team chemistry.
 
I hope there is some positive impact moving forward but if the group of player remains same, then expect no different.
 
Rizwan seems very overconfident, the abrupt English is the real clutter

 
Kianig89 said:
Rizwan seems very overconfident, the abrupt English is the real clutter

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Only thing Australia has is benefit of the hone crowd? Rizwan ka damag theik hai?

Yes they only have hone crowd advantage. Not the advantage of playing in their home den, Understanding the conditons better then anyone and having a world class unit in batting, bowling and fielding as well as an atg captain who's already won wtc and wc 2023 for the side?
 
mominsaigol said:
Only thing Australia has is benefit of the hone crowd? Rizwan ka damag theik hai?

Yes they only have hone crowd advantage. Not the advantage of playing in their home den, Understanding the conditons better then anyone and having a world class unit in batting, bowling and fielding as well as an atg captain who's already won wtc and wc 2023 for the side?
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He also said i was consulted with the selection of playing XI, now he cannot behind selectors
 
Kianig89 said:
He also said i was consulted with the selection of playing XI, now he cannot behind selectors
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It's utter madness to except Agha or saim or bowl 10 overs or 5 overs each.

Australia will feast on it. Both bowlers are rubbish?

Would have been alot better to select jamal and go for a 5 pace attack with Agha and saim as extra spinners as Australia isn't a spin friendly pitch?
 
mominsaigol said:
It's utter madness to except Agha or saim or bowl 10 overs or 5 overs each.

Australia will feast on it. Both bowlers are rubbish?

Would have been alot better to select jamal and go for a 5 pace attack with Agha and saim as extra spinners as Australia isn't a spin friendly pitch?
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Irfan Khan is also an allrounder atleast in the minds of team management
 
Kianig89 said:
Irfan Khan is also an allrounder atleast in the minds of team management
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He isn't, he's a rubbish bowler.

However he isn't a bad batter from what I can tell. We'll see but he did have the best 100 in the Champions one day cup.

His 100 of 53 is better then any innings chacha has and can possibly play.
 
mominsaigol said:
He isn't, he's a rubbish bowler.

However he isn't a bad batter from what I can tell. We'll see but he did have the best 100 in the Champions one day cup.

His 100 of 53 is better then any innings chacha has and can possibly play.
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Come tomorrow everything will be crystal clear.
 
Kianig89 said:
Come tomorrow everything will be crystal clear.
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If he fails tmr, I won't hate him or even if he fails this series.

Pakistani batters are historically poor against aus so it doesn't matter.

I'm waiting till Zimbabwe series to make a judgement. Lots of Pakistani players got exposed agaonat Ireland, Canada, USA and these sorts of teams lol.

So if he can't score against Zimbabwe then he's farigh.

But I expect everyone to fail in aus.
 
Yes no reason to hate, but tomorrow will show the true calibre of him .

Young player against Australia away a true test
 
khyberlion said:
Did sarfraz actually lose 17 odis in a row?
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He lost around 9 consecutive ODIs in 2018. In fact, between 2018 and 2019, he lost 30+ ODIs in 40 matches, including the third worst NRR in the 2019 World Cup.

This in addition to losing two home Test series in 2018-19. His captaincy was extremely overrated and the less said about his mediocre batting and keeping, the better.

Rizwan replacing him has been a breath of fresh air. A far better WK batsman and I’m sure he will prove to be a superior captain as well even if he doesn’t end up having a peak moment like Sarfaraz did in 2017.

The fact that Sarfaraz couldn’t build on the CT momentum and lost everything within two years says a lot about him.
 
Pakistan's former captain, Waqar Younis, praised Pakistan's ODI series victory over Australia on Australian soil while speaking on a local TV channel:

"By defeating Australia in Australia, Rizwan and his team have made a big mark."

"It’s a great achievement to go and defeat them in their backyard in a country where winning isn't easy. Rizwan and his team have done something remarkable."
 
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Mamoon said:
He lost around 9 consecutive ODIs in 2018. In fact, between 2018 and 2019, he lost 30+ ODIs in 40 matches, including the third worst NRR in the 2019 World Cup.

This in addition to losing two home Test series in 2018-19. His captaincy was extremely overrated and the less said about his mediocre batting and keeping, the better.

Rizwan replacing him has been a breath of fresh air. A far better WK batsman and I’m sure he will prove to be a superior captain as well even if he doesn’t end up having a peak moment like Sarfaraz did in 2017.

The fact that Sarfaraz couldn’t build on the CT momentum and lost everything within two years says a lot about him.
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Wow that's shocking. Sarfraz was purely playing based on his captaincy. He wasted at least 2 years of Rizwan's career. There is little doubt that Rizwan already is our greatest wk by some margin. I have to admit I can't stand his antics and his desire for specific batting position but beggars can't be choosers when you look at his replacements.
 
khyberlion said:
Wow that's shocking. Sarfraz was purely playing based on his captaincy. He wasted at least 2 years of Rizwan's career. There is little doubt that Rizwan already is our greatest wk by some margin. I have to admit I can't stand his antics and his desire for specific batting position but beggars can't be choosers when you look at his replacements.
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Sarfaraz was insecure of Rizwan too. Two months before the 2019 World Cup, Rizwan scored 2 centuries in 5 ODIs vs Australia and still couldn’t find a place in the World Cup squad.

He had surpassed Sarfaraz as a player by 2018 but Sarfaraz managed to keep him out because of captaincy.

Misbah did a great job by dumping him not only as captain but also from the team after he took over after the World Cup. It was a bold but necessary move from the betterment of Pakistan cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
Sarfaraz was insecure of Rizwan too. Two months before the 2019 World Cup, Rizwan scored 2 centuries in 5 ODIs vs Australia and still couldn’t find a place in the World Cup squad.

He had surpassed Sarfaraz as a player by 2018 but Sarfaraz managed to keep him out because of captaincy.

Misbah did a great job by dumping him not only as captain but also from the team after he took over after the World Cup. It was a bold but necessary move from the betterment of Pakistan cricket.
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Rizwan scored 2 hundreds in a losing cause against a rubbish Australia team missing most of its first teamers, they were by no means impressive tons…more like a desperate plea to beg for a spot in the side. Harris Sohail scored a 130ish in that series to show the actual difference in class between Rizwan and what it means to be a proper international standard batter.

He will continue to be pushed as something he isn’t no matter what, and the final result will be the same no matter what. Babar began his captaincy reign with a historic victory against India, Rizwan has done the same. By the end of it, the result will also be the same.
 
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A century is always a century, regardless of whether it’s scored in a winning or losing cause. Scoring two centuries in the same ODI series is a remarkable feat and should never be overlooked. It’s rare to see a player who scored two tons before a World Cup struggling to secure a spot in the squad. Normally, such a performance would almost guarantee a place in the team, as it reflects the player’s form and consistency.
 
Not focusing on his runs and milestones, but explaining how cricket is played and what players need to do to be selected for the national team.
 
Caved12 said:
A century is always a century, regardless of whether it’s scored in a winning or losing cause. Scoring two centuries in the same ODI series is a remarkable feat and should never be overlooked. It’s rare to see a player who scored two tons before a World Cup struggling to secure a spot in the squad. Normally, such a performance would almost guarantee a place in the team, as it reflects the player’s form and consistency.
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The team combination was

1) Imam
2) Fakhar
3) Babar
4) Hafeez
5) Haris
6) Malik
7) Imad
8) Sarfaraz

Rizwan has an awful record at no 6, 7 and no 8 avg 11. And you know full well that even if he was given the chance to bat at 7 or 8 he'd fail, that's why you lot want him to bat higher and even your hero Rizwan says the same.

Rizzu back in 2016 had an interview where he complained how he couldn't bat at that no and wants to bat higher.

The only available slots for him were opening, no 3, no 4, no 5.

Sarfaraz and mickey are not Misbah, They weren't stupid. Fakhar is impossible to replace in odi as an opener for any sensible unit, Imam at that time had cemented his place as an opener and rizzu doesn't even want to open in odi so cats out of the bag.

Babar was in form so no 3 was out of the question.

Only spot was no 4 and no 5and haris sohail butchered that side scoring 130. Haris sohail and hafeez are 100x the batters rizzu are. Their was no space for rizwan.
 
Mamoon said:
Sarfaraz was insecure of Rizwan too. Two months before the 2019 World Cup, Rizwan scored 2 centuries in 5 ODIs vs Australia and still couldn’t find a place in the World Cup squad.

He had surpassed Sarfaraz as a player by 2018 but Sarfaraz managed to keep him out because of captaincy.

Misbah did a great job by dumping him not only as captain but also from the team after he took over after the World Cup. It was a bold but necessary move from the betterment of Pakistan cricket.
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Rizwan would have done far better than Sarfaraz had he played the 2019 WC. That world cup was an embarrassment for Pakistan with Mr specialist captain yawning during the most important game. I am no fan of misbah and I believe he has caused a lot of damage to our cricket but I will be thankful to him for kicking out sarfraz for good.

As a player there is no comparison between sarfraz and Rizwan. Rizwan has left him in dust.
 
Sarfraz was not doing great in either captaincy, batting or keeping in ODIs and tests and was deservedly dropped from those two formats.

In t20s he was actually doing a good job especially as captain and shouldn’t have been dropped. And perhaps dropping him from the other two formats would have given Sarfraz incentive to get fit and work on his performance.

Sarfraz’s whole downfall was his neglect of his fitness. When that went his performance went. He was never a big boundary hitter, but he was good at picking up singles. That area of his game was hurt when his fitness went.

I don’t think Sarfraz kept out Rizwan but we kept waiting for Sarfraz to get back his fitness and form when he was captain and it didn’t happen.
 
Sarfraz was the one trick pony he failed to capitalize on his 2017 CT win
We failed everywhere and over UAE record also suffered yet this clown used to his behind tail enders
Should have been booted out early
 
Mamoon said:
Sarfaraz was insecure of Rizwan too. Two months before the 2019 World Cup, Rizwan scored 2 centuries in 5 ODIs vs Australia and still couldn’t find a place in the World Cup squad.

He had surpassed Sarfaraz as a player by 2018 but Sarfaraz managed to keep him out because of captaincy.

Misbah did a great job by dumping him not only as captain but also from the team after he took over after the World Cup. It was a bold but necessary move from the betterment of Pakistan cricket.
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"Insecure of Rizwan" what a joke :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Unlike zinc lips, Safi was more than willing to give others a chance in useless bilaterals as he understood that these series are meaningless. Rizwan may have fluked two hundreds vs Australia D however he would have flopped miserably outside of the UAE. This is clear when you see his pathetic performances in the series before vs South Africa.

Misbah has committed many crimes however his vendetta against our greatest captain is easily the most reprehensible thing he's done
 
Mohammad Riwan after the win in the dressing room with a fiery speech, ;)

"The most important things behind all these things (successes in Australia) was our heart and our resolve. We have seen in history, those with big resolve have beaten the ones with big numbers. Nothing happens with numbers or big names. Our Cricket history has changed! All the big names if they don't unite together in one, if their intention isn't one, direction isn't one, qibla not one then they can do nothing. Those that have one direction, on qibla, one aim, all with a purpose. If they go anywhere in the world, in any country. InShaAllah they will beat them..."
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shah9425 said:
Sarfraz was the one trick pony he failed to capitalize on his 2017 CT win
We failed everywhere and over UAE record also suffered yet this clown used to his behind tail enders
Should have been booted out early
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A captain will inevitably lose the respect of his players if he consistently hides behind tailenders instead of leading from the front. And you are being too kind when you only count two accounts; there are easily 5 to 10
 
Caved12 said:
A captain will inevitably lose the respect of his players if he consistently hides behind tailenders instead of leading from the front. And you are being too kind when you only count two accounts; there are easily 5 to 10
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Yeah captains gain respect by misusing their power, opening in the powerplay and striking at 90.
 
Caved12 said:
You can target him all you want and bring your hate into every Rizwan related thread; he will keep rising. Hamein koi farq nahi parta :)
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Then don’t engage if it makes no difference?
 
Caved12 said:
You can target him all you want and bring your hate into every Rizwan related thread; he will keep rising. Hamein koi farq nahi parta :)
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the guy has won the ICC player of the year award, won a PSL became a captain of national team. And there is one guy who is whining.

Rizwan will keep on moving forward in life, yet some will stay stuck and cry that why did Sarfraz got replaced by someone better lol
 
khyberlion said:
Rizwan would have done far better than Sarfaraz had he played the 2019 WC. That world cup was an embarrassment for Pakistan with Mr specialist captain yawning during the most important game. I am no fan of misbah and I believe he has caused a lot of damage to our cricket but I will be thankful to him for kicking out sarfraz for good.

As a player there is no comparison between sarfraz and Rizwan. Rizwan has left him in dust.
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Rizwan is in another league and a much better player than Sarfaraz. One thing I can bet on is that as long as Rizwan plays cricket, he will always stay fit and never compromise on his fitness.
 
Major said:
the guy has won the ICC player of the year award, won a PSL became a captain of national team. And there is one guy who is whining.

Rizwan will keep on moving forward in life, yet some will stay stuck and cry that why did Sarfraz got replaced by someone better lol
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When Rizwan won the Player of the Year award, it was something we all should have been proud of. But instead, those threads got flooded with hate filled posts, taking all the attention away from that great accomplishment.
 
Caved12 said:
When Rizwan won the Player of the Year award, it was something we all should have been proud of. But instead, those threads got flooded with hate filled posts, taking all the attention away from that great accomplishment.
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It was great achievement

Haters can keep crying
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizwan will keep on moving forward in life

2027 expiry date.
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What's wrong with a 2027 expiry date? There's a CT, T20 WC and an ODI WC in between and a Test championship cycle as well in which Rizwan will most probably lead.

Planning for 3 years is not short term planning even assuming that Rizwan will basically be done by that time.
 
mumtaz said:
What's wrong with a 2027 expiry date? There's a CT, T20 WC and an ODI WC in between and a Test championship cycle as well in which Rizwan will most probably lead.

Planning for 3 years is not short term planning even assuming that Rizwan will basically be done by that time.
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He will continue to lead poat 2027 if he's a good captain.
 
mumtaz said:
What's wrong with a 2027 expiry date? There's a CT, T20 WC and an ODI WC in between and a Test championship cycle as well in which Rizwan will most probably lead.

Planning for 3 years is not short term planning even assuming that Rizwan will basically be done by that time.
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3 years of torture where Pakistan remains static and Rizwan+agency rake in as much cash as possible.
 
Rana said:
He wrote that on the board?

They want to score 1045 runs on deck?
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That's not written by him. He can't speak simple English, so you really think he's capable of writing that? it more likely written by the coach. Rizwan fans will even praise his farts and say wah kaptana kya khushboo hai, don't take it serious
 
emranabbas said:
That's not written by him. He can't speak simple English, so you really think he's capable of writing that? it more likely written by the coach. Rizwan fans will even praise his farts and say wah kaptana kya khushboo hai, don't take it serious
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No rizwan fan has commented on that. It's been rizwan haters commenting.
 
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