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Ramiz, Saqi, MoYo & Babar make a really really dumb combo.
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You don't have a argument, This is something you are assuming and then presenting it as a fact
Rameez raja had mixed results being PCB Chairman but it was the right call to have him replaced but not with a crook.
However the PJL was a good initiative that should definitely be persisted with but the crook already seems hell bent on ending this.
We need these Govt crooks and their cronies out of our country ASAP and an independent PCB.
It is only when the looting, scandals , corruption etc ends for good will things improve as a whole.
You don't have a argument, This is something you are assuming and then presenting it as a fact
Frustrated rants by Ramiz. I think the fact that not a single PCB member or ex players have shed a tear for his removal says it all. There is no doubt he led the PCB like a narcissistic dictator and he has rightfully been shown his place in the end.
Given the fact that half the PCB is run by dinosaurs who are used to taking a fat paycheck without contributing anything to Pak cricket, and how toxic we all know our ex-players are... their silence actually proves RR was doing something right.
Funny how we call out our ex-players for their toxicity day in and day out but when it comes to justifying our own agenda, we're even willing to side with them )
Pathetic.
Frustrated rants by Ramiz. I think the fact that not a single PCB member or ex players have shed a tear for his removal says it all. There is no doubt he led the PCB like a narcissistic dictator and he has rightfully been shown his place in the end.
As if the pitches were amazing during Sethi’s previous reign, when trundlers were ruling domestic cricket for fun and getting exposed horribly at international level.cannot forgive him for the pitches. Has botched three home test series. Deserves to be fired for this
Interesting that there has been no criticism of the new regime so far.
Either they were fed up of Ramiz or are too scared to criticise Sethi and co.
As if the pitches were amazing during Sethi’s previous reign, when trundlers were ruling domestic cricket for fun and getting exposed horribly at international level.
Pakistan’s inept bowling attack is making these pitches look even worse than they are. Nauman Ali is the most experienced bowler from this line-up, and he made his debut in 2021
The wickets during Ehsan Mani, Wasim Khans reign from 2019 to 2021 were very good. Ramiz destroyed the pitches with his defensiveness.
Ramiz ran the PCB like a narcissist dictator ie my way or the highway, I know best etc. He interfered with everything and spoke rudely, disrespectfully to staff, colleagues and the coaches.
Apparently the PJL has incurred a loss of $4.3 million and no one in the PCB was in favour of the tournament but Ramiz was hell bent on holding it.
It is common knowledge that 10 days after Mr Raja was nominated on the Board of Governors on 27 August 2022 by the then Patron, former captains and Pakistan stalwarts Mishab-ul-Haq and Waqar Younis were on 6 September 2021 made to “step down” as head and fast bowling coaches, respectively. Just over a month later and 16 days before the first match in the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 against India, three changes were made in the squad. Azam Khan and Mohammad Hasnain were replaced by Sarfaraz Ahmed and Haider Ali, respectively, while Fakhar Zaman replaced Khushdil Shah in the 15-player squad. Later, Shoaib Malik replaced an injured Sohaib Maqsood in the side
Haha I knew he will say billion dollar somewhere his favorite words.Ramiz speaking in an interview:
“We gave outstanding performances in white-ball cricket. We played the Asia Cup final, India didn't play that. India, a billion-dollar industry, was left behind. Tod phod hui, unhone apna chief selector, selection committee fire kar di, captain badal diye kyunki unko hazam nahi hua ki Pakistan unse kaise aage nikal gaya. (They fired their chief selector, selection committee, changed the captain because they couldn't digest how Pakistan went ahead of them)"
Talking about his own fate as PCB chairman, Ramiz said, “This is just like France firing their entire board even after they played in the FIFA World Cup final.”
“I tried my level best to keep this team united. I empowered Babar Azam. Cricket is one of those rare sports where captaincy is relevant. If your captain is powerful, results will come, and we have given results"
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...er-being-sacked-from-pcb-101672279235843.html
Ramiz speaking in an interview:
“We gave outstanding performances in white-ball cricket. We played the Asia Cup final, India didn't play that. India, a billion-dollar industry, was left behind. Tod phod hui, unhone apna chief selector, selection committee fire kar di, captain badal diye kyunki unko hazam nahi hua ki Pakistan unse kaise aage nikal gaya. (They fired their chief selector, selection committee, changed the captain because they couldn't digest how Pakistan went ahead of them)"
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Ramiz should zip it. Pathetic stuff from him to start this sort of public bashing. It’s ironic that we have NZ touring Pak and the current and former boards are fighting on Twitter and YouTube. Can Ramiz answer if this happens anywhere else in the world? He should talk about this at Oxford as well.
Ramiz did not have the answers to Pak's Cricket woes. All his idea's only looked good on his youtube channel. He was rightfully sacked.
He single-handedly took on NZC and ECB and made sure they fulfill their commitment to tour Pak. Crooks like Sethi would just bend over and take it in silence because they are too scared to ruffle the feathers of these bigger boards. This was a massive achievement for RR. Pak white ball cricket was also on the rise - what woes are you talking about?
I think you are talking about Wasim who bottled the New Zealand & England tours in 2021 & was shedding tears for the cameras.
It was on his watch that New Zealand abandoned the tour of Pakistan & England refused to tour after New Zealand’s decision to leave.
We were told he was highly respected in ECB but that respect went down the drain when he failed to convince ECB to tour Pakistan last year.
Sethi is the reason Pakistan is hosting international cricket full time today. He was the one to initiate the process of bringing teams back.
Those baby steps from 2015 to 2018 such as bringing Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka & West Indies, the World XI team, hosting a few PSL matches etc. slowly rebuilt Pakistan’s reputation & convinced teams that it is safe.
It was those efforts that have led us here. Convincing teams to tour Pakistan in 2015-16 was much, much harder than it was during Ramiz’s tenure because back then, Pakistan had nothing to show for except promises & assurances.
During Mani, Wasim & Ramiz’s time, Pakistan had all those successful tours in 2015-2018 to point at which helped them bring bigger teams to Pakistan & host Test cricket as well.
Mani, Wasim & Ramiz did nothing except capitalize on the hard work done by Sethi to bring cricket back to Pakistan.
He single-handedly took on NZC and ECB and made sure they fulfill their commitment to tour Pak. Crooks like Sethi would just bend over and take it in silence because they are too scared to ruffle the feathers of these bigger boards. This was a massive achievement for RR. Pak white ball cricket was also on the rise - what woes are you talking about?
Ramiz Raja speaking on his YT Channel
"The government of Pakistan removed a Test cricketer from chairmanship of PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. This is highly disrespectful way of treating your cricketers"
"The government of Pakistan changed the whole constitution of PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. I have never seen this ever in my life"
“The way India announced that they won’t play Asia Cup in Pakistan wasn’t right. They issued the statement without consulting Asian Cricket Council members. India should not have tried to boss Pakistan or any other country like this”
"Najam Sethi doesn't know how many months he has to stay in PCB. He has no interest in Pakistan Cricket. He only wants authority in PCB."
"Najam Sethi attacked on PCB headquarter in such a manner that I was unable to take my baggage from my office. They attacked PCB like an FIA raid."
"I believe in authoritative captain but Babar Azam has to bring improvement in his captaincy"
"The new hierarchy in PCB will put pressure on Babar Azam because the captain now has to work with a new management of PCB during ongoing season"
Accountability.
When England were whitewashed in WI 3-0 (Tests), it was for the ECB to put a stake in the ground, and ask Root to relinquish captaincy, and Silverwood to resign.
When England beat India by 10 wickets, BCCI sacked the entire selection committee, and not to mention prior to the WC, relieved Kohli of captaincy duties.
However, given 2022 is the most embarrassing year for Pakistan Test cricket, beaten twice in a Test series at home by Aus and England, and of course whitewashed 3-0 at home! Not to mention the 7 T20 match series drubbing, also at home, also by England. Honourable mention to the batting woes of the T20 team in 2 consecutive WCs, and a pitiful middle order in T20s.
What was Rambo's response? "I have faith in Wasim, Babar and Saqlain"
The fact while Pakistan's performance was in rapid and obvious decline in 2021-2022, there was no mention by PCB of a proposed change in management, or even a notion of change, or even a remedy of change. The Whitewash was the last straw.
RR has only himself to blame. He had his chance, but blew it.
Accountability.
When England were whitewashed in WI 3-0 (Tests), it was for the ECB to put a stake in the ground, and ask Root to relinquish captaincy, and Silverwood to resign.
When England beat India by 10 wickets, BCCI sacked the entire selection committee, and not to mention prior to the WC, relieved Kohli of captaincy duties.
However, given 2022 is the most embarrassing year for Pakistan Test cricket, beaten twice in a Test series at home by Aus and England, and of course whitewashed 3-0 at home! Not to mention the 7 T20 match series drubbing, also at home, also by England. Honourable mention to the batting woes of the T20 team in 2 consecutive WCs, and a pitiful middle order in T20s.
What was Rambo's response? "I have faith in Wasim, Babar and Saqlain"
The fact while Pakistan's performance was in rapid and obvious decline in 2021-2022, there was no mention by PCB of a proposed change in management, or even a notion of change, or even a remedy of change. The Whitewash was the last straw.
RR has only himself to blame. He had his chance, but blew it.
Ramiz did well off thee field no doubt about it. I am talking off Pak not performing well on the field of play. Now NZ are gonna do us at home too!
The three defeats in a row at home to Australia, England and now NZ are strictly down to a defensive mindset from the board and complete abscence of planning. This is strictly all on Ramiz. He by putting the blame on the team management shirked his own responsibility.
Team management plans for the team; not the chairman. Babar and co are responsible for the failures.
Fair. Though im of the opinion that those who can directly impact on field performances should be held responsible for them as well. Chairman can have a very limited impact and it’s the captain and the management that should be on the chopping block.
Chairman like the CEO is ultimately responsible for the bottom-line and for a Cricket Board that is the performance of the team. It was Ramizs decision to appoint an incompetent individual like Babar as captain and give him unaccountable IK type powers. It was Ramizs decision to appoint Saqlain as coach when he could have made an aggressive effort to find a full time foreign coach. These mistakes are all on him and I am sure deep down he now regrets it, if he knew he would only get a year and a half in power, in hindsight he would have made different decisions.
Don’t agree that the chairman is responsible for the team’s performance. Chairman’s job is to look after the health of the board - largely financially. In that regard, RR was outperforming most if not all his predecessors.
The team management should be sacked after this home season.
Did Sethi resign when we lost to the lowly SL in the UAE? or when we lost the test to Zim?
If we’re going by that logic though, RR deserves all the credit for Pak beating India for the first time in a WC in paks entire history!
Sethi did resign when IK became PM in 2018.
You cannot compare the odd Test match loss to the litany of loses under RR, including the Test Whitewash at home.
The Chairman is ultimately responsible because the Chairman has a role in appointing the Selector, Coach, and Captain. RR did nothing to remidiate the failures under his tenure.
Don’t agree that the chairman is responsible for the team’s performance. Chairman’s job is to look after the health of the board - largely financially. In that regard, RR was outperforming most if not all his predecessors.
The team management should be sacked after this home season.
Did Sethi resign when we lost to the lowly SL in the UAE? or when we lost the test to Zim?
If we’re going by that logic though, RR deserves all the credit for Pak beating India for the first time in a WC in paks entire history!
Ramiz Raja:
"One positive from my stint as a chairman was that I provided leadership. If you remember New Zealand had left then we told them that what you did was unfair. The England refused to come, we spoke with them, following which they played 7 T20Is instead of 5, two extra. The ECB staffs visited Lahore's Gaddafi Stadium, they came to my office and apologised. Similarly Australia also visited."
"What is leadership? When Asian Cricket Council has asked Pakistan to host a tournament and then India say they won't travel to Pakistan and shift the tournament to a neutral venue, what should be the response?
“Kya hum sab servant rahenge India k, kyunki woh ek world power hain apne hisab se. Kya hum har cheez unki mante jayenge?” (Are we servant of India just because they are a world power in cricket? Should we listen to everything they say?)
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ans-respect-they-deserve-101672333522801.html
Ramiz suffering some sort of existential crisis?
In an interview.
"It feels awkward to be called 'former' chairman now. I mean I have always considered myself as a commentator and commentator can't be former. So now, whenever I listen 'former' with my post, it sounds awkward to me"
Mohammad Amir on Ramiz
“You are saying they launched an attack, describing the way they entered. I think they way the previous government brought you, similarly the new one brought them.”
"Najam Sethi had stepped down from his position quietly. He didn't point fingers at anyone, neither did he do any paid TV interviews, where he claimed that he has been done wrong. If you start counting his achievements, there are plenty. When Zimbabwe first toured in 2015-16, he was there. No one was ready to buy PSL, he ensured that it happened. The list is endless and he could have also cried on TV.
“But you did nothing and talk too much. The amount of damage you've done from 2019-2022, I think Najam Sethi will have to work a lot to rectify them"
Mohammad Amir on Ramiz
“You are saying they launched an attack, describing the way they entered. I think they way the previous government brought you, similarly the new one brought them.”
"Najam Sethi had stepped down from his position quietly. He didn't point fingers at anyone, neither did he do any paid TV interviews, where he claimed that he has been done wrong. If you start counting his achievements, there are plenty. When Zimbabwe first toured in 2015-16, he was there. No one was ready to buy PSL, he ensured that it happened. The list is endless and he could have also cried on TV.
“But you did nothing and talk too much. The amount of damage you've done from 2019-2022, I think Najam Sethi will have to work a lot to rectify them"
As per a news report:
Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB)'s management committee approved former chairman Ramiz Raja's pension request
During his tenure as PCB chairman, Raja raised former Test cricketers' pension by PKR1 lakh. As per services rules, Raja couldn't take pension during chairmanship.
But, as soon as the former Test cricketer was removed from the position, he applied for pension. Now, sources confirmed that the current management has approved his request and Raja will start receiving PKR154,000 monthly as pension.
Seems that confidentiality in such matters means little!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rambo <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@iramizraja</a> inked the code of conduct of <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a>'s Players' Welfare Policy to take ex-gratia benefits of Rs 1,54,000/- per month as a cricketer aged 60. <br>Benefits to him under this policy started from January 1, 2023.<br>Has he opted to keep mum?<a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@najamsethi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HamidMirPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/UaL3dbs7bX">pic.twitter.com/UaL3dbs7bX</a></p>— Shakil Shaikh (@shakilsh58) <a href="https://twitter.com/shakilsh58/status/1611787999204839426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Is Ramiz really that desperate for the pension of Rs 154,000 per month? Someone of his stature should have many earning avenues i.e. cricket broadcasting, commentary roles, tv analyst roles and he also has a thriving YT channel?
Why would Rambo sell his soul for Rs 154,000/month? This amount will just about cover his monthly electricity bill.
Ramiz is a clown if he thinks the PCB Chairman should be an ex-cricketer. What a load of nonsense.
Ramiz in an interview
If you don't give enough respect to this great sport, the future is going to be very dark. It's not right when you don't let a system run smoothly and come to run the country's cricket with the help of nepotism and politics. We first need to understand if there is any law and order or not. You changed the constitution for the heck of it... to bring someone, perhaps yours loyalist in"
"What is the use of a non-cricketer in cricket?... this should be the debate. This field is ours, we know what to do. We don't need crutches to run cricket like this administration is doing,"
"How will you govern when you don't have the idea about the game, when you haven't picked a bat ever, how will you govern?. You will take a helping hand...you are never in control of things then"
"Pakistan's winning percentage was over 60, the third-best in the world. We were able to set new records in terms of fan engagement. The one year was a golden period for Pakistan cricket. No big team used to visit us before, but that changed. There were such brilliant performances. We are considered one of the top teams in white-ball cricket,"
Bruv didn't imran khan appoint you as a chairman?Ramiz on his YT:
"There should be no political interference in cricket. The government of Pakistan removed a Test cricketer from the chairmanship of the PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. This is a highly disrespectful way of treating your cricketers"
"This Najam Sethi is tweeting at 2:15 am that Ramiz Raja has been sacked, start congratulating me. I have played Test cricket, this is my field, and it hurts to see these people from outside cricket trying to act like a Messiah. I know that their motives are non-cricketing. These people are here for the limelight."
Bruv didn't imran khan appoint you as a chairman?
Then political interference was fine?? Why because it favoured you!!! Maybe if you stood up to it then people would take you seriously now
Yeah I suppose political interference in cricket by Imran Khan doesn’t count Ramiz
Imran Khan was aa cricketer himself - his interference actually means something else.
That’s besides the point. He was the Prime Minister of Pakistan, not the chairman of PCB. Who appointed the captain/chairman of the teams that won the 1992 World Cup, 2009 World Cup and CT17? Where they cricketers or politicians?
No huge difference.
When a player like Imran Khan says something, people sit up and listen because he knows his stuff. He is not doing for political gain.