"Government removed a Test cricketer from PCB chairmanship to accommodate Najam Sethi": Ramiz Raja

Rameez raja had mixed results being PCB Chairman but it was the right call to have him replaced but not with a crook.

However the PJL was a good initiative that should definitely be persisted with but the crook already seems hell bent on ending this.

We need these Govt crooks and their cronies out of our country ASAP and an independent PCB.

It is only when the looting, scandals , corruption etc ends for good will things improve as a whole.
 
Rameez raja had mixed results being PCB Chairman but it was the right call to have him replaced but not with a crook.

However the PJL was a good initiative that should definitely be persisted with but the crook already seems hell bent on ending this.

We need these Govt crooks and their cronies out of our country ASAP and an independent PCB.

It is only when the looting, scandals , corruption etc ends for good will things improve as a whole.

how is he a crook? plz explain to support your allegation
 
Frustrated rants by Ramiz. I think the fact that not a single PCB member or ex players have shed a tear for his removal says it all. There is no doubt he led the PCB like a narcissistic dictator and he has rightfully been shown his place in the end.
 
The PCB has taken note of Raja's explosive comments and also issued a clarification on the matter related to him not being allowed to collect his stuff from the office. Salman Naseer, the chief operating officer of PCB, in a tweet posted midnight confirmed that all his belongings were collected by him and is kept safely at the PCB custody. His belongings will be returned as part of the usual handing over process.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ation-after-being-sacked-101672135394569.html
 
Frustrated rants by Ramiz. I think the fact that not a single PCB member or ex players have shed a tear for his removal says it all. There is no doubt he led the PCB like a narcissistic dictator and he has rightfully been shown his place in the end.

Given the fact that half the PCB is run by dinosaurs who are used to taking a fat paycheck without contributing anything to Pak cricket, and how toxic we all know our ex-players are... their silence actually proves RR was doing something right.

Funny how we call out our ex-players for their toxicity day in and day out but when it comes to justifying our own agenda, we're even willing to side with them :)))

Pathetic.
 
Given the fact that half the PCB is run by dinosaurs who are used to taking a fat paycheck without contributing anything to Pak cricket, and how toxic we all know our ex-players are... their silence actually proves RR was doing something right.

Funny how we call out our ex-players for their toxicity day in and day out but when it comes to justifying our own agenda, we're even willing to side with them :)))

Pathetic.

cannot forgive him for the pitches. Has botched three home test series. Deserves to be fired for this
 
Frustrated rants by Ramiz. I think the fact that not a single PCB member or ex players have shed a tear for his removal says it all. There is no doubt he led the PCB like a narcissistic dictator and he has rightfully been shown his place in the end.

Interesting that there has been no criticism of the new regime so far.

Either they were fed up of Ramiz or are too scared to criticise Sethi and co.
 
cannot forgive him for the pitches. Has botched three home test series. Deserves to be fired for this
As if the pitches were amazing during Sethi’s previous reign, when trundlers were ruling domestic cricket for fun and getting exposed horribly at international level.

Pakistan’s inept bowling attack is making these pitches look even worse than they are. Nauman Ali is the most experienced bowler from this line-up, and he made his debut in 2021 :))
 
Interesting that there has been no criticism of the new regime so far.

Either they were fed up of Ramiz or are too scared to criticise Sethi and co.

Ramiz ran the PCB like a narcissist dictator ie my way or the highway, I know best etc. He interfered with everything and spoke rudely, disrespectfully to staff, colleagues and the coaches.

Apparently the PJL has incurred a loss of $4.3 million and no one in the PCB was in favour of the tournament but Ramiz was hell bent on holding it.
 
As if the pitches were amazing during Sethi’s previous reign, when trundlers were ruling domestic cricket for fun and getting exposed horribly at international level.

Pakistan’s inept bowling attack is making these pitches look even worse than they are. Nauman Ali is the most experienced bowler from this line-up, and he made his debut in 2021 :))

The wickets during Ehsan Mani, Wasim Khans reign from 2019 to 2021 were very good. Ramiz destroyed the pitches with his defensiveness.
 
Ramiz seemed more interested in raising his own profile than actually doing the job. He became the defacto spokesperson of the PCB publicly commenting on everything and interfering with pitches, selection and every aspect.

An administrator's position cannot be like that. You have to delegate to people and hold them accountable if they don't do a good job. Feedback has to be given to them privately and not publicly.

I don't know if Sethi will do a better job but he has a better understanding of the job role the Ramiz
 
The wickets during Ehsan Mani, Wasim Khans reign from 2019 to 2021 were very good. Ramiz destroyed the pitches with his defensiveness.

But we needed to make a brand out of Babar
 
PCB rejects former Chairman Mr Ramiz Raja’s claims against Mr Najam Sethi

Former Chairman Mr Raja’s comparison about his and the current Chairman Mr Sethi’s expenses during his previous term is misleading and inaccurate as the circumstances are incomparable. These are elaborated as follows:

i. HBL Pakistan Super League 2016 to 2018 were held offshore, implying many visits to the UAE to organise the marquee tournament However, no PSL allowances have ever been paid to current Chairman Mr Sethi and this information has been merely presented as a potential payable. In contrast, PSL 2022 was held under former Chairman Mr Raja and was staged only in Karachi and Lahore

ii. Foreign tour expenses are high for current Chairman Mr Sethi as during his previous tenure, PSL and Pakistan’s home international matches was played outside Pakistan. Therefore, the current Chairman was required to make frequent visits to the UAE for PSL and bilateral series and for related meetings. All travel expenses were approved by the appropriate authorities and were duly audited (internally and externally)

iii. Car allowance was paid to current Chairman Mr Sethi as per the Board of Governor’s approval as he had used his personal armoured vehicle due to security threats. On the contrary, the PCB provided former Chairman Mr Raja a brand new armoured vehicle costing PKR16.5million

iv. Security expense of current Chairman Mr Sethi was high owing to additional security that needed to be provided to him as he was a former Chief Minister of the Punjab province and the Intelligence Bureau and Special Branch Punjab had issued advised of threats to him

v. It is pertinent to remember current Chairman Mr Sethi had sent a legal notice to the PCB regarding the table of expenses as soon as these were made public through the PCB corporate website
 
Don’t think the new Regime wants to play this game but if they must, they should hang out Ramiz dry for everyone to see.

Ramiz thinks he can use the anti PMLN wave and defame his predecessors because everyone will just buy it.
 
Ramiz ran the PCB like a narcissist dictator ie my way or the highway, I know best etc. He interfered with everything and spoke rudely, disrespectfully to staff, colleagues and the coaches.

Apparently the PJL has incurred a loss of $4.3 million and no one in the PCB was in favour of the tournament but Ramiz was hell bent on holding it.

Who gave this 4.3 million figure....any sources
 
Aaqib Javed on Ramiz and Sethi:

"Ramiz Raja was a one-man show in PCB which he admits himself. He was given a chance to work for the betterment of Pakistan Cricket. Now let Najam Sethi work in PCB"

"I advised Ramiz Raja to resign from his position and let the newly appointed Government bring the new Chairman of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), but he didn't listen to me"

"Ramiz Raja himself should have resigned after Imran Khan's government ended. Almost everyone, including PSL franchises, was sad during Ramiz Raja's Chairmanship in PCB."
 
The Pakistan Cricket Board has expressed its disappointment over the comments made and language used by former Chairman Mr Ramiz Raja against Chairman of the PCB Management Committee Mr Najam Sethi on a social media platform and in a TV interview.

The PCB believes former Chairman Mr Raja’s comments are aimed at tarnishing and damaging the impeccable reputation of present Chairman Mr Sethi, adding it reserves it’s rights to pursue legal proceedings to protect and defend the image and credibility of its Chairman and the institution.

To put the record straight, the facts are as follows:

- The PCB Patron, on the popular demand of cricket fans, administrators as well as former and current cricketers, exercised his constitutional right by restoring the PCB Constitution 2014 to safeguard the livelihoods, wellbeing and careers of professional cricketers as it recognised the role of departmental cricket, which was not the case in the PCB Constitution 2019 promulgated by the PTI government


- PCB Chief Operating Officer Mr Salman Naseer has already rebutted Mr Raja’s allegations that he was not allowed to collect his belongings by confirming these were picked up personally by him and will be returned to Mr Raja today (Wednesday) as a part of the usual handing and taking over process. Mr Raja was never stopped from entering the Gaddafi Stadium premises and will be welcome to visit any time in future

- Mr Sethi, who was elected as the PCB’s 34th Chairman in August 2017 for a three-year term, had voluntarily resigned with two years remaining in his tenure after his nominating authority had lost the 2018 general elections in July. This clearly indicates his approach and positive attitude

- Similar to Mr Sethi’s appointment as Chairman of the PCB Management Committee, Mr Raja had also been elected as the PCB Chairman on the eve of the 2021-22 domestic season on 13 September 2021 and two days after the New Zealand cricket team had arrived in Islamabad on their first tour in 18 years

- It is common knowledge that 10 days after Mr Raja was nominated on the Board of Governors on 27 August 2022 by the then Patron, former captains and Pakistan stalwarts Mishab-ul-Haq and Waqar Younis were on 6 September 2021 made to “step down” as head and fast bowling coaches, respectively. Just over a month later and 16 days before the first match in the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 against India, three changes were made in the squad. Azam Khan and Mohammad Hasnain were replaced by Sarfaraz Ahmed and Haider Ali, respectively, while Fakhar Zaman replaced Khushdil Shah in the 15-player squad. Later, Shoaib Malik replaced an injured Sohaib Maqsood in the side

- The PCB Management Committee, in its first meeting on 23 December 2022, had approved the dissolution of all Committees, including the National Selection Committees, pursuant to the repeal of the PCB Constitution 2019 under which they had been constituted. Consequently, on 24 December 2022, the Men’s National Selection Committee, following four successive Test loses at home this year was replaced by an interim selection panel under former captain Mr Shahid Afridi

Former Chairman Mr Raja’s comparison about his and the current Chairman Mr Sethi’s expenses during his previous term is misleading and inaccurate as the circumstances are incomparable. These are elaborated as follows:

i. HBL Pakistan Super League 2016 to 2018 were held offshore, implying many visits to the UAE to organise the marquee tournament However, no PSL allowances have ever been paid to current Chairman Mr Sethi and this information has been merely presented as a potential payable. In contrast, PSL 2022 was held under former Chairman Mr Raja and was staged only in Karachi and Lahore

ii. Foreign tour expenses are high for current Chairman Mr Sethi as during his previous tenure, PSL and Pakistan’s home international matches was played outside Pakistan. Therefore, the current Chairman was required to make frequent visits to the UAE for PSL and bilateral series and for related meetings. All travel expenses were approved by the appropriate authorities and were duly audited (internally and externally)

iii. Car allowance was paid to current Chairman Mr Sethi as per the Board of Governor’s approval as he had used his personal armoured vehicle due to security threats. On the contrary, the PCB provided former Chairman Mr Raja a brand new armoured vehicle costing PKR16.5million

iv. Security expense of current Chairman Mr Sethi was high owing to additional security that needed to be provided to him as he was a former Chief Minister of the Punjab province and the Intelligence Bureau and Special Branch Punjab had issued advised of threats to him
v. It is pertinent to remember current Chairman Mr Sethi had sent a legal notice to the PCB regarding the table of expenses as soon as these were made public through the PCB corporate website

- The above five points clearly establish there were absolutely no improprieties in current Chairman Mr Sethi’s expenses during his previous tenure

- Current Chairman Mr Sethi is one of the most distinguished, respected and renowned personalities of the country who has not only won three international press freedom awards but is also a recipient of Hilal-e-Imtiaz. He has launched three media houses, served in the federal cabinet and was appointed as an all-parties consensus Interim Chief Minister of the Punjab province in 2013. He has twice headed the PCB, while he also launched and headed the Pakistan Super League from 2016-2018. These not only confirm his international popularity, standing and credibility, also reflects his credentials as a skilled, qualified and experienced administrator

- Australia, England and New Zealand cricket teams’ in 2022 were part of the Future Tours Programme, which current Chairman Mr Sethi had finalised during his previous tenure. It may not be out of context to mention here that the current Chairman Mr Sethi had also invited Zimbabwe, World XI and the West Indies to play in Pakistan between 2013 and 2018 as part of his vision and strategy to revive international cricket in Pakistan

- Complete list of current Chairman Mr Sethi’s achievements during his previous tenure will be shared in due course

The PCB expects following the above explanations, former Chairman Mr Raja will refrain from leveling unsubstantiated and baseless allegations against current Chairman Mr Sethi, which can potentially damage the cricket brand, the organisation as well as its figurehead.
 
It is common knowledge that 10 days after Mr Raja was nominated on the Board of Governors on 27 August 2022 by the then Patron, former captains and Pakistan stalwarts Mishab-ul-Haq and Waqar Younis were on 6 September 2021 made to “step down” as head and fast bowling coaches, respectively. Just over a month later and 16 days before the first match in the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup 2021 against India, three changes were made in the squad. Azam Khan and Mohammad Hasnain were replaced by Sarfaraz Ahmed and Haider Ali, respectively, while Fakhar Zaman replaced Khushdil Shah in the 15-player squad. Later, Shoaib Malik replaced an injured Sohaib Maqsood in the side

good point made. serves raja right
 
Ramiz did not have the answers to Pak's Cricket woes. All his idea's only looked good on his youtube channel. He was rightfully sacked.
 
Ramiz speaking in an interview:

“We gave outstanding performances in white-ball cricket. We played the Asia Cup final, India didn't play that. India, a billion-dollar industry, was left behind. Tod phod hui, unhone apna chief selector, selection committee fire kar di, captain badal diye kyunki unko hazam nahi hua ki Pakistan unse kaise aage nikal gaya. (They fired their chief selector, selection committee, changed the captain because they couldn't digest how Pakistan went ahead of them)"

Talking about his own fate as PCB chairman, Ramiz said, “This is just like France firing their entire board even after they played in the FIFA World Cup final.”

“I tried my level best to keep this team united. I empowered Babar Azam. Cricket is one of those rare sports where captaincy is relevant. If your captain is powerful, results will come, and we have given results"

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...er-being-sacked-from-pcb-101672279235843.html
 
Ramiz should zip it. Pathetic stuff from him to start this sort of public bashing. It’s ironic that we have NZ touring Pak and the current and former boards are fighting on Twitter and YouTube. Can Ramiz answer if this happens anywhere else in the world? He should talk about this at Oxford as well.
 
Ramiz speaking in an interview:

“We gave outstanding performances in white-ball cricket. We played the Asia Cup final, India didn't play that. India, a billion-dollar industry, was left behind. Tod phod hui, unhone apna chief selector, selection committee fire kar di, captain badal diye kyunki unko hazam nahi hua ki Pakistan unse kaise aage nikal gaya. (They fired their chief selector, selection committee, changed the captain because they couldn't digest how Pakistan went ahead of them)"

Talking about his own fate as PCB chairman, Ramiz said, “This is just like France firing their entire board even after they played in the FIFA World Cup final.”

“I tried my level best to keep this team united. I empowered Babar Azam. Cricket is one of those rare sports where captaincy is relevant. If your captain is powerful, results will come, and we have given results"

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...er-being-sacked-from-pcb-101672279235843.html
Haha 😆 I knew he will say billion dollar somewhere his favorite words.
 
<b>LAHORE: Former Pakistan fast bowler Aqib Javed said on Wednesday that Ramiz Raja should have quit his post as the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board once Imran Khan had been ousted as Prime Minister.</b>

“Many chairmen in the past had left the post with the ouster of the prime minister who had appointed them and Ramiz should’ve followed suit,” Aqib, a part of Pakistan’s 1992 World Cup-winning side alongside Ramiz under the leadership of Imran, told reporters.

Ramiz, who was appointed the PCB chief in September of 2021 for a term of three years after winning an unopposed election, was removed last week when a 14-member PCB management committee headed by former chairman Najam Sethi was placed to run cricket affairs in the country.

Aqib, the coach of Pakistan Super League franchise Lahore Qalandars, said Ramiz had gained few friends during his tenure as PCB chief.

“A lot of people were unhappy during his time at the top,” said Aqib. “The pool of the players had been limited to just 200. Ramiz ran the PCB as a one-man show and neither the players, franchises of the PSL nor the PCB employees happy with his attitude.”

Sethi has outlined his vision to restore departmental cricket under the PCB constitution of 2014 and Aqib hailed it “as a good step to increase the pool of players”. “With jobs in departments, it will see more people take up cricket,” he said.

<b>PCB HITS BACK AT CLAIMS</b>

Earlier on Wednesday, the PCB issued a lengthy statement expressing its “disappointment” over the comments made by Ramiz against Sethi on his YouTube channel as well as a television interview. It also attempted to provide clarity to Ramiz’s claims.

“The PCB believes former chairman Mr Raja’s comments are aimed at tarnishing and damaging the impeccable reputation of present chairman

Mr Sethi, and it reserves it’s rights to pursue legal proceedings to protect and defend the image and credibility of its Chairman and the institution,” read a PCB statement.

It noted that it had already rebutted allegations from Ramiz that he’d not been allowed to collect his belongings. It also said that comparisons made by Ramiz about his expenditures to those made by Sethi during their time as chairmen of the PCB are “misleading and inaccurate as the circumstances are incomparable” as Pakistan played most of its cricket overseas while the Pakistan Super League too was held in the United Arab Emirates.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1728746/ramiz-shouldve-quit-pcb-after-imrans-ouster-as-pm-says-aqib
 
Ramiz speaking in an interview:

“We gave outstanding performances in white-ball cricket. We played the Asia Cup final, India didn't play that. India, a billion-dollar industry, was left behind. Tod phod hui, unhone apna chief selector, selection committee fire kar di, captain badal diye kyunki unko hazam nahi hua ki Pakistan unse kaise aage nikal gaya. (They fired their chief selector, selection committee, changed the captain because they couldn't digest how Pakistan went ahead of them)"

……

Apart from being wholly wrong about the reasons BCCI fired the then management, it’s sad to see Raja resorting to a hollow metric that signifies nothing, but is simply a populist invoking of the ‘old enemy’.
 
Ramiz should zip it. Pathetic stuff from him to start this sort of public bashing. It’s ironic that we have NZ touring Pak and the current and former boards are fighting on Twitter and YouTube. Can Ramiz answer if this happens anywhere else in the world? He should talk about this at Oxford as well.

Ramiz should absolutely continue with his criticism. Najam Sethi is a shameless bootlicker and he should be called out for that.

PCT had a very good run in white ball cricket and RR deserves credit for that. No harm in highlighting that. Pakistanis have gotten so used to getting ***** again and again that they become uncomfortable with someone calls out the **.

Just like some folks here defending Sethi’s massive lawsuit vs BCCI blunder by saying all organizations have budget for legal :)))
 
Ramiz did not have the answers to Pak's Cricket woes. All his idea's only looked good on his youtube channel. He was rightfully sacked.

He single-handedly took on NZC and ECB and made sure they fulfill their commitment to tour Pak. Crooks like Sethi would just bend over and take it in silence because they are too scared to ruffle the feathers of these bigger boards. This was a massive achievement for RR. Pak white ball cricket was also on the rise - what woes are you talking about?
 
He single-handedly took on NZC and ECB and made sure they fulfill their commitment to tour Pak. Crooks like Sethi would just bend over and take it in silence because they are too scared to ruffle the feathers of these bigger boards. This was a massive achievement for RR. Pak white ball cricket was also on the rise - what woes are you talking about?

I think you are talking about Wasim who bottled the New Zealand & England tours in 2021 & was shedding tears for the cameras.

It was on his watch that New Zealand abandoned the tour of Pakistan & England refused to tour after New Zealand’s decision to leave.

We were told he was highly respected in ECB but that respect went down the drain when he failed to convince ECB to tour Pakistan last year.

Sethi is the reason Pakistan is hosting international cricket full time today. He was the one to initiate the process of bringing teams back.

Those baby steps from 2015 to 2018 such as bringing Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka & West Indies, the World XI team, hosting a few PSL matches etc. slowly rebuilt Pakistan’s reputation & convinced teams that it is safe.

It was those efforts that have led us here. Convincing teams to tour Pakistan in 2015-16 was much, much harder than it was during Ramiz’s tenure because back then, Pakistan had nothing to show for except promises & assurances.

During Mani, Wasim & Ramiz’s time, Pakistan had all those successful tours in 2015-2018 to point at which helped them bring bigger teams to Pakistan & host Test cricket as well.

Mani, Wasim & Ramiz did nothing except capitalize on the hard work done by Sethi to bring cricket back to Pakistan.
 
I think you are talking about Wasim who bottled the New Zealand & England tours in 2021 & was shedding tears for the cameras.

It was on his watch that New Zealand abandoned the tour of Pakistan & England refused to tour after New Zealand’s decision to leave.

We were told he was highly respected in ECB but that respect went down the drain when he failed to convince ECB to tour Pakistan last year.

Sethi is the reason Pakistan is hosting international cricket full time today. He was the one to initiate the process of bringing teams back.

Those baby steps from 2015 to 2018 such as bringing Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka & West Indies, the World XI team, hosting a few PSL matches etc. slowly rebuilt Pakistan’s reputation & convinced teams that it is safe.

It was those efforts that have led us here. Convincing teams to tour Pakistan in 2015-16 was much, much harder than it was during Ramiz’s tenure because back then, Pakistan had nothing to show for except promises & assurances.

During Mani, Wasim & Ramiz’s time, Pakistan had all those successful tours in 2015-2018 to point at which helped them bring bigger teams to Pakistan & host Test cricket as well.

Mani, Wasim & Ramiz did nothing except capitalize on the hard work done by Sethi to bring cricket back to Pakistan.

It was a failure on Wasims part that those tours were abandoned - no denying that.

However, can’t take anything away from Ramiz and have to applaud his brave approach of taking on ECB and NZC in front of the world by calling out their hypocrisy - no one but only a deluded and heavily biased person won’t appreciate the role Ramiz played here.

We all know SENA teams do not give a *rap about teams like Zim, WI and some ***** World XI. You can continue to host them for years and ECB, CA will not change their perception. I know it’s a little hard to look past your own bias but you know fully well that Sethi’s passive approach wouldn’t have done anything to convince bigger teams to tour Pak. This is all down to RR
 
He single-handedly took on NZC and ECB and made sure they fulfill their commitment to tour Pak. Crooks like Sethi would just bend over and take it in silence because they are too scared to ruffle the feathers of these bigger boards. This was a massive achievement for RR. Pak white ball cricket was also on the rise - what woes are you talking about?

Ramiz did well off thee field no doubt about it. I am talking off Pak not performing well on the field of play. Now NZ are gonna do us at home too!
 
Ramiz was working to improve the bases of Pakistan cricket, junior cricket, FC cricket and club cricket. Because he knew what has been wrong with Pakistan cricket. He was not allowed to finish his agenda then why blaming him.
 
Ramiz Raja speaking on his YT Channel

"The government of Pakistan removed a Test cricketer from chairmanship of PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. This is highly disrespectful way of treating your cricketers"

"The government of Pakistan changed the whole constitution of PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. I have never seen this ever in my life"

“The way India announced that they won’t play Asia Cup in Pakistan wasn’t right. They issued the statement without consulting Asian Cricket Council members. India should not have tried to boss Pakistan or any other country like this”

"Najam Sethi doesn't know how many months he has to stay in PCB. He has no interest in Pakistan Cricket. He only wants authority in PCB."

"Najam Sethi attacked on PCB headquarter in such a manner that I was unable to take my baggage from my office. They attacked PCB like an FIA raid."

"I believe in authoritative captain but Babar Azam has to bring improvement in his captaincy"

"The new hierarchy in PCB will put pressure on Babar Azam because the captain now has to work with a new management of PCB during ongoing season"


1992 PCB Chairman?

When Imran Khan won the World cup and Rameez Raja was part of the winning team, PCB was led by Lt General Zahid Ali Akbar Khan who never played Cricket and had no Cricketing experience!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahid_Ali_Akbar_Khan
 
Accountability.

When England were whitewashed in WI 3-0 (Tests), it was for the ECB to put a stake in the ground, and ask Root to relinquish captaincy, and Silverwood to resign.

When England beat India by 10 wickets, BCCI sacked the entire selection committee, and not to mention prior to the WC, relieved Kohli of captaincy duties.

However, given 2022 is the most embarrassing year for Pakistan Test cricket, beaten twice in a Test series at home by Aus and England, and of course whitewashed 3-0 at home! Not to mention the 7 T20 match series drubbing, also at home, also by England. Honourable mention to the batting woes of the T20 team in 2 consecutive WCs, and a pitiful middle order in T20s.

What was Rambo's response? "I have faith in Wasim, Babar and Saqlain"

The fact while Pakistan's performance was in rapid and obvious decline in 2021-2022, there was no mention by PCB of a proposed change in management, or even a notion of change, or even a remedy of change. The Whitewash was the last straw.

RR has only himself to blame. He had his chance, but blew it.
 
Accountability.

When England were whitewashed in WI 3-0 (Tests), it was for the ECB to put a stake in the ground, and ask Root to relinquish captaincy, and Silverwood to resign.

When England beat India by 10 wickets, BCCI sacked the entire selection committee, and not to mention prior to the WC, relieved Kohli of captaincy duties.

However, given 2022 is the most embarrassing year for Pakistan Test cricket, beaten twice in a Test series at home by Aus and England, and of course whitewashed 3-0 at home! Not to mention the 7 T20 match series drubbing, also at home, also by England. Honourable mention to the batting woes of the T20 team in 2 consecutive WCs, and a pitiful middle order in T20s.

What was Rambo's response? "I have faith in Wasim, Babar and Saqlain"

The fact while Pakistan's performance was in rapid and obvious decline in 2021-2022, there was no mention by PCB of a proposed change in management, or even a notion of change, or even a remedy of change. The Whitewash was the last straw.

RR has only himself to blame. He had his chance, but blew it.

Ramiz thought it was his birth right to get a 3 year tenure and that he didn't have to worry about being dismissed at any stage.
 
Accountability.

When England were whitewashed in WI 3-0 (Tests), it was for the ECB to put a stake in the ground, and ask Root to relinquish captaincy, and Silverwood to resign.

When England beat India by 10 wickets, BCCI sacked the entire selection committee, and not to mention prior to the WC, relieved Kohli of captaincy duties.

However, given 2022 is the most embarrassing year for Pakistan Test cricket, beaten twice in a Test series at home by Aus and England, and of course whitewashed 3-0 at home! Not to mention the 7 T20 match series drubbing, also at home, also by England. Honourable mention to the batting woes of the T20 team in 2 consecutive WCs, and a pitiful middle order in T20s.

What was Rambo's response? "I have faith in Wasim, Babar and Saqlain"

The fact while Pakistan's performance was in rapid and obvious decline in 2021-2022, there was no mention by PCB of a proposed change in management, or even a notion of change, or even a remedy of change. The Whitewash was the last straw.

RR has only himself to blame. He had his chance, but blew it.

Exactly. Ramiz was also ready to hand out legal notices for anyone criticizing him during his tenure despite poor decisions. Should prepare for the same if he criticizes his sacking now.
 
The three defeats in a row at home to Australia, England and now NZ are strictly down to a defensive mindset from the board and complete abscence of planning. This is strictly all on Ramiz. He by putting the blame on the team management shirked his own responsibility.
 
Ramiz did well off thee field no doubt about it. I am talking off Pak not performing well on the field of play. Now NZ are gonna do us at home too!

Fair. Though im of the opinion that those who can directly impact on field performances should be held responsible for them as well. Chairman can have a very limited impact and it’s the captain and the management that should be on the chopping block.
 
The three defeats in a row at home to Australia, England and now NZ are strictly down to a defensive mindset from the board and complete abscence of planning. This is strictly all on Ramiz. He by putting the blame on the team management shirked his own responsibility.

Team management plans for the team; not the chairman. Babar and co are responsible for the failures.
 
Team management plans for the team; not the chairman. Babar and co are responsible for the failures.

Chairman like the CEO is ultimately responsible for the bottom-line and for a Cricket Board that is the performance of the team. It was Ramizs decision to appoint an incompetent individual like Babar as captain and give him unaccountable IK type powers. It was Ramizs decision to appoint Saqlain as coach when he could have made an aggressive effort to find a full time foreign coach. These mistakes are all on him and I am sure deep down he now regrets it, if he knew he would only get a year and a half in power, in hindsight he would have made different decisions.
 
Fair. Though im of the opinion that those who can directly impact on field performances should be held responsible for them as well. Chairman can have a very limited impact and it’s the captain and the management that should be on the chopping block.

He was talking good in the commentary ox before becoming chairman. Just shows it is much more difficult when asked to do the job.
 
Chairman like the CEO is ultimately responsible for the bottom-line and for a Cricket Board that is the performance of the team. It was Ramizs decision to appoint an incompetent individual like Babar as captain and give him unaccountable IK type powers. It was Ramizs decision to appoint Saqlain as coach when he could have made an aggressive effort to find a full time foreign coach. These mistakes are all on him and I am sure deep down he now regrets it, if he knew he would only get a year and a half in power, in hindsight he would have made different decisions.

Don’t agree that the chairman is responsible for the team’s performance. Chairman’s job is to look after the health of the board - largely financially. In that regard, RR was outperforming most if not all his predecessors.

The team management should be sacked after this home season.

Did Sethi resign when we lost to the lowly SL in the UAE? or when we lost the test to Zim?

If we’re going by that logic though, RR deserves all the credit for Pak beating India for the first time in a WC in paks entire history!
 
Don’t agree that the chairman is responsible for the team’s performance. Chairman’s job is to look after the health of the board - largely financially. In that regard, RR was outperforming most if not all his predecessors.

The team management should be sacked after this home season.

Did Sethi resign when we lost to the lowly SL in the UAE? or when we lost the test to Zim?

If we’re going by that logic though, RR deserves all the credit for Pak beating India for the first time in a WC in paks entire history!

Sethi did resign when IK became PM in 2018.

You cannot compare the odd Test match loss to the litany of loses under RR, including the Test Whitewash at home.

The Chairman is ultimately responsible because the Chairman has a role in appointing the Selector, Coach, and Captain. RR did nothing to remidiate the failures under his tenure.
 
Sethi did resign when IK became PM in 2018.

You cannot compare the odd Test match loss to the litany of loses under RR, including the Test Whitewash at home.

The Chairman is ultimately responsible because the Chairman has a role in appointing the Selector, Coach, and Captain. RR did nothing to remidiate the failures under his tenure.

What has Sethi’s resignation got to do with the point that is being discussed? It wasn’t performance related resignation.

We needed to see the end of the home season and what steps RR would have or would not have taken to see if the failures were addressed. Sadly we won’t be able to see now.
 
Don’t agree that the chairman is responsible for the team’s performance. Chairman’s job is to look after the health of the board - largely financially. In that regard, RR was outperforming most if not all his predecessors.

The team management should be sacked after this home season.

Did Sethi resign when we lost to the lowly SL in the UAE? or when we lost the test to Zim?

If we’re going by that logic though, RR deserves all the credit for Pak beating India for the first time in a WC in paks entire history!

RR apparently did not score highly as far as the financial health of the board is concerned either. The PJL suffered a loss of around $4.5 million and the bulk of the PJL and domestic players have still not been paid for the domestic season either.
 
Ramiz Raja:

"One positive from my stint as a chairman was that I provided leadership. If you remember New Zealand had left then we told them that what you did was unfair. The England refused to come, we spoke with them, following which they played 7 T20Is instead of 5, two extra. The ECB staffs visited Lahore's Gaddafi Stadium, they came to my office and apologised. Similarly Australia also visited."

"What is leadership? When Asian Cricket Council has asked Pakistan to host a tournament and then India say they won't travel to Pakistan and shift the tournament to a neutral venue, what should be the response?

“Kya hum sab servant rahenge India k, kyunki woh ek world power hain apne hisab se. Kya hum har cheez unki mante jayenge?” (Are we servant of India just because they are a world power in cricket? Should we listen to everything they say?)

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ans-respect-they-deserve-101672333522801.html
 
Ramiz Raja:

"One positive from my stint as a chairman was that I provided leadership. If you remember New Zealand had left then we told them that what you did was unfair. The England refused to come, we spoke with them, following which they played 7 T20Is instead of 5, two extra. The ECB staffs visited Lahore's Gaddafi Stadium, they came to my office and apologised. Similarly Australia also visited."

"What is leadership? When Asian Cricket Council has asked Pakistan to host a tournament and then India say they won't travel to Pakistan and shift the tournament to a neutral venue, what should be the response?

“Kya hum sab servant rahenge India k, kyunki woh ek world power hain apne hisab se. Kya hum har cheez unki mante jayenge?” (Are we servant of India just because they are a world power in cricket? Should we listen to everything they say?)

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ans-respect-they-deserve-101672333522801.html

Sethi will..he is a loyal servant.
 
Mohammad Amir's take on all this

“Vo bohot padhe likhe aadmi hai, koi nahi soch raha tha ki ye iss tarah muh uthaake kisi pe bhi ilzaam laga denge (He's a well read person, that's why no one thought that he would make such statements). With the way he talks, it feels only he is right and everyone else is wrong. Every person as their own opinion. 100 people will not agree with me, and maybe 10 will. Someone will like it and someone will not. But if you feel that only you are right and everyone else is wrong… that's not how it works"

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ive-remark-on-ramiz-raja-101672543406306.html
 
One can pick positives from tenure of all successive chairmen. They all have done some good. Najam, Mani, Ramiz.

But if you sum up Pakistan's performances over time, stagnant. Even downhill. Some flashes of white ball brilliance. But red ball, down the drain.

Until you put a proven administrator who has turned around businesses/sports teams and give them 5 full years, you just don't know what 'good' really is, what is the ceiling, what this team and the country is capable of.

Ramiz was a political appointment. Playing test cricket doesn't make you an administrator. Najam is a political appointment. Being a politician/journalist doesn't make you a capable administrator.

Pakistan will have some good times and some bad. Everyone will take credit for good times and pass the buck of bad times to the previous management. Everyone will do some good. Even the worst Prime Ministers and dictators in Pakistan's history have some good stuff to their name.

Praising assorted good works of people who have tremendous money and power to do what they please just tells you there is lack of appreciation of true leadership in our country.
 
Ramiz suffering some sort of existential crisis?

In an interview.

"It feels awkward to be called 'former' chairman now. I mean I have always considered myself as a commentator and commentator can't be former. So now, whenever I listen 'former' with my post, it sounds awkward to me"
 
“I have a lot of respect for Ramiz and we would never oppose him returning to the commentary box.” - Najam Sethi

Ramiz Raja to Dunya News

“What is leadership? When Asian Cricket Council has asked Pakistan to host a tournament and then India say they won’t travel to Pakistan and shift the tournament to a neutral venue, what should be the response?”

“Kya hum sab servant rahenge India k, kyunki woh ek world power hain apne hisab se. Kya hum har chez unki mante jayenge?” (Are we servant of India just because they are a world power in cricket? Should we listen to everything they say?)

“We will think, will we get isolated, we’ll ask permission from the government then talks will move further. These are not signs of good leadership.

“The Pakistan cricket team is enjoying a great run, you have a good fan following, you have superstars, so please give your team and fans the respect they deserve.

“There should be a decision on the matter, as the tournament was given to Pakistan, so how can it be shifted to a neutral venue without consulting us or with the ACC members,” Raja concluded.
 
Ramiz suffering some sort of existential crisis?

In an interview.

"It feels awkward to be called 'former' chairman now. I mean I have always considered myself as a commentator and commentator can't be former. So now, whenever I listen 'former' with my post, it sounds awkward to me"

He seems to be losing the plot now.
 
Mohammad Amir on Ramiz

“You are saying they launched an attack, describing the way they entered. I think they way the previous government brought you, similarly the new one brought them.”

"Najam Sethi had stepped down from his position quietly. He didn't point fingers at anyone, neither did he do any paid TV interviews, where he claimed that he has been done wrong. If you start counting his achievements, there are plenty. When Zimbabwe first toured in 2015-16, he was there. No one was ready to buy PSL, he ensured that it happened. The list is endless and he could have also cried on TV.

“But you did nothing and talk too much. The amount of damage you've done from 2019-2022, I think Najam Sethi will have to work a lot to rectify them"
 
Mohammad Amir on Ramiz

“You are saying they launched an attack, describing the way they entered. I think they way the previous government brought you, similarly the new one brought them.”

"Najam Sethi had stepped down from his position quietly. He didn't point fingers at anyone, neither did he do any paid TV interviews, where he claimed that he has been done wrong. If you start counting his achievements, there are plenty. When Zimbabwe first toured in 2015-16, he was there. No one was ready to buy PSL, he ensured that it happened. The list is endless and he could have also cried on TV.

“But you did nothing and talk too much. The amount of damage you've done from 2019-2022, I think Najam Sethi will have to work a lot to rectify them"

No denying this. And this shouldn’t be “unpopular opinion”
 
Mohammad Amir on Ramiz

“You are saying they launched an attack, describing the way they entered. I think they way the previous government brought you, similarly the new one brought them.”

"Najam Sethi had stepped down from his position quietly. He didn't point fingers at anyone, neither did he do any paid TV interviews, where he claimed that he has been done wrong. If you start counting his achievements, there are plenty. When Zimbabwe first toured in 2015-16, he was there. No one was ready to buy PSL, he ensured that it happened. The list is endless and he could have also cried on TV.

“But you did nothing and talk too much. The amount of damage you've done from 2019-2022, I think Najam Sethi will have to work a lot to rectify them"

Facts.

Sethi is the best PCB Chairman ever. He established PSL & brought international cricket back to Pakistan.

Mani & Wasim destroyed Pakistan cricket with their reforms. The humiliation Pakistan has suffered in Test cricket in 2022 is their legacy.

I consider Ramiz a bit unlucky because he found himself at the wrong place at the wrong time but he clearly failed to repair the damage done by Mani & Wasim.

Sethi is now back to steady the ship & there is no doubt things will improve on his watch. He knows what he is doing & has the right energy for this role.
 
I don’t get Ramiz’ reaction here. What did he expect? Even for arguments sake if he was doing a good job, it was obvious the new government was going to bring their man in eventually.

He seemed to have a sense of delusion that he was too good or popular to remove. As if he was the man that would break the political circus.

Sorry Rambo - there’s nothing special about you.
 
Ramiz is tarnishing his mediocre legacy and is coming off like a nutcase. I think he may be under the direction to malign Sethi and PDM. I’m not a big fan of Sethi either but he’s essentially ignored Rambo and come out looking a lot saner.
 
As per a news report:

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB)'s management committee approved former chairman Ramiz Raja's pension request

During his tenure as PCB chairman, Raja raised former Test cricketers' pension by PKR1 lakh. As per services rules, Raja couldn't take pension during chairmanship.

But, as soon as the former Test cricketer was removed from the position, he applied for pension. Now, sources confirmed that the current management has approved his request and Raja will start receiving PKR154,000 monthly as pension.
 
As per a news report:

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB)'s management committee approved former chairman Ramiz Raja's pension request

During his tenure as PCB chairman, Raja raised former Test cricketers' pension by PKR1 lakh. As per services rules, Raja couldn't take pension during chairmanship.

But, as soon as the former Test cricketer was removed from the position, he applied for pension. Now, sources confirmed that the current management has approved his request and Raja will start receiving PKR154,000 monthly as pension.

Seems that confidentiality in such matters means little!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rambo <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@iramizraja</a> inked the code of conduct of <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a>'s Players' Welfare Policy to take ex-gratia benefits of Rs 1,54,000/- per month as a cricketer aged 60. <br>Benefits to him under this policy started from January 1, 2023.<br>Has he opted to keep mum?<a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@najamsethi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HamidMirPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/UaL3dbs7bX">pic.twitter.com/UaL3dbs7bX</a></p>— Shakil Shaikh (@shakilsh58) <a href="https://twitter.com/shakilsh58/status/1611787999204839426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Is Ramiz really that desperate for the pension of Rs 154,000 per month? Someone of his stature should have many earning avenues i.e. cricket broadcasting, commentary roles, tv analyst roles and he also has a thriving YT channel?

Why would Rambo sell his soul for Rs 154,000/month? This amount will just about cover his monthly electricity bill.
 
The fact that Rameez continued with Yousuf despite that spectacular altercation is better than many management careers.
 
Seems that confidentiality in such matters means little!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rambo <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@iramizraja</a> inked the code of conduct of <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a>'s Players' Welfare Policy to take ex-gratia benefits of Rs 1,54,000/- per month as a cricketer aged 60. <br>Benefits to him under this policy started from January 1, 2023.<br>Has he opted to keep mum?<a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@najamsethi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HamidMirPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/UaL3dbs7bX">pic.twitter.com/UaL3dbs7bX</a></p>— Shakil Shaikh (@shakilsh58) <a href="https://twitter.com/shakilsh58/status/1611787999204839426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

EVERYONE is dishonest and corrupt in this country - the honest ones simply didn’t get a chance.
 
Is Ramiz really that desperate for the pension of Rs 154,000 per month? Someone of his stature should have many earning avenues i.e. cricket broadcasting, commentary roles, tv analyst roles and he also has a thriving YT channel?

Why would Rambo sell his soul for Rs 154,000/month? This amount will just about cover his monthly electricity bill.

All former Test cricketers benefit from the pension increase. It's a reasonable amount for legends that have represented their nation. Not all of them are fortunate like Ramiz to have other earnings
 
Ramiz in an interview

If you don't give enough respect to this great sport, the future is going to be very dark. It's not right when you don't let a system run smoothly and come to run the country's cricket with the help of nepotism and politics. We first need to understand if there is any law and order or not. You changed the constitution for the heck of it... to bring someone, perhaps yours loyalist in"

"What is the use of a non-cricketer in cricket?... this should be the debate. This field is ours, we know what to do. We don't need crutches to run cricket like this administration is doing,"

"How will you govern when you don't have the idea about the game, when you haven't picked a bat ever, how will you govern?. You will take a helping hand...you are never in control of things then"

"Pakistan's winning percentage was over 60, the third-best in the world. We were able to set new records in terms of fan engagement. The one year was a golden period for Pakistan cricket. No big team used to visit us before, but that changed. There were such brilliant performances. We are considered one of the top teams in white-ball cricket,"
 
Ramiz should end this nonsense logic of "what is the use of a non-cricketer in cricket?". The head doesn't need to be a cricketer. It's an administrative position and the best administrator needs to run it. For cricketing operations, you usually have a Director of Cricket Operations that will look after the affairs of the cricket in the country.

David Gill, who was Chief Executive at Man United had nothing to do with football. He's a Chartered Accountant but was considered able to run one of the biggest footballing club in the world. And he did it admirably well. He now sits on the UEFA executive committee. So should he also not have been employed because he's not a footballer?

Ramiz is a classic example of sour grapes. After such a long time, he thought he hit it big when Imran rewarded his loyalty to him with the PCB Chairmanship and now he cannot digest that he got sacked so soon after he took command. Najam Sethi may not be a cricketer. But he's definitely a better administrator than Ramiz. Whether Najam Sethi will do good for PCB remains to be seen. If he doesn't, then he needs to be sacked as well.
 
Ramiz is a clown if he thinks the PCB Chairman should be an ex-cricketer. What a load of nonsense.
 
Rameez crying like some bitter Ex after being dumped in a relationship. Rameez should never be allowed in any position in PCB or a commentary box for a Pakistan game ever again.
 
Ramiz is a clown if he thinks the PCB Chairman should be an ex-cricketer. What a load of nonsense.

If Ramiz was a painter, he would argue that an ex painter should be the chairman of the PCB
 
Ramiz in an interview

If you don't give enough respect to this great sport, the future is going to be very dark. It's not right when you don't let a system run smoothly and come to run the country's cricket with the help of nepotism and politics. We first need to understand if there is any law and order or not. You changed the constitution for the heck of it... to bring someone, perhaps yours loyalist in"

"What is the use of a non-cricketer in cricket?... this should be the debate. This field is ours, we know what to do. We don't need crutches to run cricket like this administration is doing,"

"How will you govern when you don't have the idea about the game, when you haven't picked a bat ever, how will you govern?. You will take a helping hand...you are never in control of things then"

"Pakistan's winning percentage was over 60, the third-best in the world. We were able to set new records in terms of fan engagement. The one year was a golden period for Pakistan cricket. No big team used to visit us before, but that changed. There were such brilliant performances. We are considered one of the top teams in white-ball cricket,"

MIG

Do you know see why Don Shakeel Sheikh has to publicly put Rameez in his place?

Laato ke bhoot baato se nahi maante
 
Ramiz can't live for more than 2 days without media interactions, he will keep blabbering like this forever. Former Pakistan cricketers who always criticise PCB on news / YouTube channels must learn from Ramiz that it's easy to give big statements in media but actually extremely difficult to run an organisation
 
Ramiz on his YT:

"There should be no political interference in cricket. The government of Pakistan removed a Test cricketer from the chairmanship of the PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. This is a highly disrespectful way of treating your cricketers"

"This Najam Sethi is tweeting at 2:15 am that Ramiz Raja has been sacked, start congratulating me. I have played Test cricket, this is my field, and it hurts to see these people from outside cricket trying to act like a Messiah. I know that their motives are non-cricketing. These people are here for the limelight."
 
Ramiz on his YT:

"There should be no political interference in cricket. The government of Pakistan removed a Test cricketer from the chairmanship of the PCB just to accommodate Najam Sethi. This is a highly disrespectful way of treating your cricketers"

"This Najam Sethi is tweeting at 2:15 am that Ramiz Raja has been sacked, start congratulating me. I have played Test cricket, this is my field, and it hurts to see these people from outside cricket trying to act like a Messiah. I know that their motives are non-cricketing. These people are here for the limelight."
Bruv didn't imran khan appoint you as a chairman?
Then political interference was fine?? Why because it favoured you!!! Maybe if you stood up to it then people would take you seriously now
 
Bruv didn't imran khan appoint you as a chairman?
Then political interference was fine?? Why because it favoured you!!! Maybe if you stood up to it then people would take you seriously now

Yeah I suppose political interference in cricket by Imran Khan doesn’t count Ramiz
 
Yeah I suppose political interference in cricket by Imran Khan doesn’t count Ramiz

Imran Khan was aa cricketer himself - his interference actually means something else.
 
Imran Khan was aa cricketer himself - his interference actually means something else.

That’s besides the point. He was the Prime Minister of Pakistan, not the chairman of PCB. Who appointed the captain/chairman of the teams that won the 1992 World Cup, 2009 World Cup and CT17? Where they cricketers or politicians?
 
That’s besides the point. He was the Prime Minister of Pakistan, not the chairman of PCB. Who appointed the captain/chairman of the teams that won the 1992 World Cup, 2009 World Cup and CT17? Where they cricketers or politicians?

No huge difference.

When a player like Imran Khan says something, people sit up and listen because he knows his stuff. He is not doing for political gain.
 
No huge difference.

When a player like Imran Khan says something, people sit up and listen because he knows his stuff. He is not doing for political gain.

He knew his stuff when telling the board to pick Babar as captain?

Some people have the art of making people listen, regardless of what they say is correct or not. Imran is one of them
 
Ramiz Raja about Najam Sethi in a recent interview:

"A PCB chairman who doesn't understand cricket, probably was not even good enough to make it to the XI in a club game, heads a cabal of political, petty minded club runners for a management committee to run Pakistan cricket affairs, who are on a Rs 12 lakhs a month salary"
 
Ramiz was actually a really fun and entertaining commentator

Really sad to see him become this bitter loser ranting on politics and individuals
 
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