Hanuman was the first space traveller – BJP

[DeadlyVenom]

Modi is a Hindu. If he does not believe that Lord Ganesha's story, then he is stepping away from his faith. This is no different to Muslims believing in Miraj story or Christians believing in resurrection story. Either you believe and become a believer or you don't and become an agnostic/atheist.

You can believe it of course but there is a difficulty when you cross from miracles or spiritual phenomenon and present it as scientific fact.

For example, I do believe in the Miraj, I also believe in other religious miracles, we believe in the Virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus for example.

But you cannot present these supernatural events and give them a modern material tint. For example there is a Hadith about the Prophet (saw) having his heart cleansed by angels during his childhood. I wouldn't want medical textbooks to be updated to claim this is first open heart surgery.

 

[Rajdeep]

@mominsaigol On Hanuman ji I can compromise a bit but no disrespect of Sachin will be tolerated. Lets make a deal and opt for peace

 

[Technics 1210]

Hindutva will have no new followers from anywhere in the world, its a small deranged ideology which believes they are a superiour race, some believe they come the white race lol. Have these jokers not seen the mirror.

Only a few have ever admitted they are Hindutvas on here, most pretend not to be but only like eating Ladoos with flowers on their wrists.

Its a dangerous ideology to some but overall Hindutva will ruin the people who follow it.

Indeed, no new followers.

In addition to the above, why was Modi banned from entering the UK and USA? He was charged with religious terrorism - Gujrat massacre of Muslims.

However, no Islamic PM/Politician has ever been banned from entering the UK and USA based on their Islamic faith.

I wonder why.

 

[mominsaigol]

1. I have never abused Islam or any other religion. Don’t be silly—I respect all religions equally. I have even said here no religion teach bad things , else it will not be considered a religion. It is the people that misinterpret it sometimes. I however respond in the same tone when someone insults my religion or country. I think that’s fair.

2. Lord Hanuman was not a “monkey” in the way we understand today. He was from the Vanara kingdom, which depicted a race of humanoid apes—an extinct group of forest-dwelling people known for their immense strength and power. They were somewhat similar to Neanderthals, who are also extinct.

3. His space exploration is written in our mythology, and those who follow Hinduism believe in it—just like Muslims and Christians believe in their own religious texts.

@mominsaigol On Hanuman ji I can compromise a bit but no disrespect of Sachin will be tolerated. Lets make a deal and opt for peace

What peace? Don't you literally live and breathe my End? Not that I'll happen as I'll outlive you?

 

[topspin]

Few days back, I saw an Instagram reel where an Indian singer was claiming that the computer RAM is derived from the Indian god “Raam”.

 

[Champ_Pal]

You can believe it of course but there is a difficulty when you cross from miracles or spiritual phenomenon and present it as scientific fact.

For example, I do believe in the Miraj, I also believe in other religious miracles, we believe in the Virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus for example.

But you cannot present these supernatural events and give them a modern material tint. For example there is a Hadith about the Prophet (saw) having his heart cleansed by angels during his childhood. I wouldn't want medical textbooks to be updated to claim this is first open heart surgery.

As a Hindu, Modi thinks that Hanuman did the leap to outer space and he can scientifically possible. Just like how @LordJames believed that Miraj would be possible with Speculative Physics and alternate time dimensions and time dilation. Believers can believe anything.

 

[Mamoon]

I think Hindus should not be offended here. The objective is not to mock their beliefs; the objective is to mock the projection.

If you believe that your monkey god zoomed around the universe, that is fine. It is no different to believing that a winged horse took the Prophet SAW to the 7 heavens. We believe what we believe.

However, saying stuff like the British knew about it and hid it from everyone or that the Computer RAM means “Raam” is just forcing the world to ridicule you.

A Muslim scholar claiming that for example, NASA knows that the Prophet SAW split the moon in half would and should also be met with ridicule.

Your faith in your religion should be strong enough not to resort to such theories.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I think Hindus should not be offended here. The objective is not to mock their beliefs; the objective is to mock the projection.

If you believe that your monkey god zoomed around the universe, that is fine. It is no different to believing that a winged horse took the Prophet SAW to the 7 heavens. We believe what we believe.

However, saying stuff like the British knew about it and hid it from everyone or that the Computer RAM means “Raam” is just forcing the world to ridicule you.

A Muslim scholar claiming that for example, NASA knows that the Prophet SAW split the moon in half would and should also be met with ridicule.

Your faith in your religion should be strong enough not to resort to such theories.

A few things.

Hanuman is not a monkey. He is Vanar. Vana (Forest) + Nar (Man). He is a forest man. Kind of like half ape and half human. Hanuman is supposedly a Demi-God. He gets his supernatural powers from Pawan(Air God) and Lord Shiva. He can do all those jaw dropping and mind bending feats due to the boons given by respective Gods.

Anyways, I totally agree with your post. Religion and Faith are not meant for Science and Logic. This is why it should not enter classrooms where science is taught. You put it better than me.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

As a Hindu, Modi thinks that Hanuman did the leap to outer space and he can scientifically possible. Just like how @LordJames believed that Miraj would be possible with Speculative Physics and alternate time dimensions and time dilation. Believers can believe anything.

He is entitled to his belief.

However, if he believes that it should be in school textbooks and in scientific records, and the only reason it isn't is because British have covered it up, then he will be mocked.

 

[Champ_Pal]

He is entitled to his belief.

However, if he believes that it should be in school textbooks and in scientific records, and the only reason it isn't is because British have covered it up, then he will be mocked.

Agreed with your post. Anytime miracles, superhuman and unexplained feats try to enter school curriculum, it should be repelled right away and definitely deserves mocking. However, the mocking should be of the person who says or tries such things. Not the belief or faith. It is for people to decide if they want to believe in such things.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which shoe is that? LOL

I thought you lived in the UK. Are you not seeing what’s going on around you this summer with migrant hotels and which religion is being specifically blamed? Or did you miss what happened last summer after Southport and which community was targeted?

Are you not following what’s happening with the Saint George’s flag in Tower Hamlets?

Have you not been keeping tabs on Elon Musk’s X page?

But…but…now apparently the “shoe has changed,” and suddenly everyone’s blaming right-wing Hindus. Hahaha.

Also, what’s this “cult” you keep typing about? Who exactly is this cult in Hinduism?

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This is where your shortsighted focus on Islam or Pakistan has blinded you. People like you are still stuck post 9/11 where you delighted in Islamophobia that was unleashed, but if you could take your head out of the sand you would see that Indians are now coming in for increasing amount of hatred around the world. The migrant protests were always the thin end of the wedge. It's a chance to vent against immigrants in general, that is why Indians are getting attacked in Ireland, and abused openly on social media.

 

[Rajdeep]

This is where your shortsighted focus on Islam or Pakistan has blinded you. People like you are still stuck post 9/11 where you delighted in Islamophobia that was unleashed, but if you could take your head out of the sand you would see that Indians are now coming in for increasing amount of hatred around the world. The migrant protests were always the thin end of the wedge. It's a chance to vent against immigrants in general, that is why Indians are getting attacked in Ireland, and abused openly on social media.

My head is in right direction. Its just that I am well aware of the incidents that is happening around me. There is a massive protest in Central London on 13th Sept. Who you think it is for? Hindus and Indians? LMAO.

 

[HalBass9]

My head is in right direction. Its just that I am well aware of the incidents that is happening around me. There is a massive protest in Central London on 13th Sept. Who you think it is for? Hindus and Indians? LMAO.

You just proved his point.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Plz bump relevant threads instead of derailing this one,

 

[Suleiman]

I see how a person’s faith can get people offended, I personally feel very offended at some of the posts here.(need to grow out of it , yes)
@big_gamer007
I do blame BJP here but hard not to notice the people who are religious taking a go at Dharmic faith.

Have personally stayed away from this thread because I knew how it would go down, a pure mud slinging fest.

 

[Red-Indian]

Have personally stayed away from this thread because I knew how it would go down, a pure mud slinging fest.

True. Religious folks are at their best when they're clear that religion is about faith and belief. It's about humans seeking explanations for the meaning and purpose of individual life which to be honest, is not something logic and philosophy have not solved and possibly don't recognise as a question.

It's when they start trying to shoehorn science into religion whether in terms of trying to explain immaculate conception, interdimensional travel or animal human hybridization that pointless and bitter debates start.

 

[RexRex]

Have personally stayed away from this thread because I knew how it would go down, a pure mud slinging fest.

One the contrary, most of it was respectful from both sides .. it was just one poster that started slinging mud. The one who is known for talking to himself a lot.