Harry and Meghan discussion thread

[DeadlyVenom]

Harry: “my father and brother are trapped”.

Yeah trapped in Mo money mo problems business! Rich people crying about their rich people problems! What an ungrateful softie this Harry is!’

I've watched a few royal shows since I got married as my wife is into them.

Without hint of a lie you couldn't pay me to do that job. You can't compare them to other rich people. They have the twin burden of wealth and the stifling nature of the establishment.

 

[Stewie]

May be everyone else are also believing that same **** that Gilly just told. Some Royals should be protected at the expense of other unimportant ones.

It’s the stereo typical desi machismo mentality.

“Biwi ki waja se khandan chor dia”
“Jory ka ghulam”
“This is how we expect women in our family to act, head down no questioning anything”

But when it comes to our own daughters, sisters or mothers, our standards flip 180 degrees.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

That was their two options, take the money on offer for being royals and fly under the radar or leave the company (royal family) and do your own thing. They are not being forced to be royals, plenty of royals have left the family quietly and gone about their own business. Megan wants the attention from the media but wants to control the content. Don't complain about the media then put yourself in the limelight.

Can you name some who have left quitely?

 

[Rana]

I've watched a few royal shows since I got married as my wife is into them.

Without hint of a lie you couldn't pay me to do that job. You can't compare them to other rich people. They have the twin burden of wealth and the stifling nature of the establishment.

If that’s what you have been raised, schooled and trained to do...you can do it. If you have not been raised in that way to deal with this lifestyle of privilege and class, you would hesitate to all of a sudden be a part of it.

Harry might as well try his hand as an actor also, it’s going to be a long, long journey now without the Royal protocol surrounding him all the time.

 

[Gilly]

Why would you take out the racism angle lol?

Its the most critical part of the story. Its like saying if you take out bats and balls cricket is a nothing sport.

Both Harry and Meghan feel her race played a part in her treatment. Who are we to argue against this and take it out of the story?

She bought a lot of baggage with her, she should have earned her privileges instead of demanding them.

 

[Stewie]

Can you name some who have left quitely?

Even if they didn’t, what’s wrong with voicing how you were did wrong? Especially when the media has fully assassinated your character and handed you down a guilty verdict from the court of public opinion? The least you would do is defend yourself and bring your side of the story into the open.

 

[Markhor]

I know a lot of people will disagree with me but the British Royal family is very very hungover on perceptions of being proper and decent and traditional and while doing so they have been very very improper at times. Why were there no repercussions or consequences for the crown prince when he was going around cheating on Diana and yet Diana was the one in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. Now we are seeing kind of the same crap, except Harry is telling it as it is.

The Royal family members and their spouses are expected to live a life of perfection (by their standards) yet all the alienation, the lack of freedom and individualism amongst other prejudices clearly exist behind this facade.

And this got so bad in this case, that nobody came to the defense of this couple when some parts of the media were obviously racist and offensive.

I think we can leave all the rest about who did what for money or whatever, the point above sticks out like a soar thumb. The Royal family is nothing but a massively controlling elitist organization.

I think there's also a culture clash beyond the race angle which obviously is a major element of it.

British people generally are encouraged to keep a "stiff upper lip" and avoid open displays of emotion which partly stems from World War 2 mythology where the spirit of "keep calm and carry on" helped defeat Nazi Germany (along with the conveniently forgotten assistance of millions of Colonial Subjects...) when all seemed lost.

The older generation like the Queen typify that, whereas Americans tend to wear their heart on their sleeve and be more blunt about how they feel. So I can understand why Meghan Markle found it difficult to accept the institution's advice of "it's part of the job, don't make a fuss."

There's good and bad to that national temperament. Britain has tended to avoid disruptive revolutions and lurches to political extremism seen on the Continent - although Britain DID abolish its monarchy once and that didn't end well particularly for the Irish as [MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION] can explain...

However telling someone to avoid making a fuss is the worst thing to say to anyone suffering from psychological traumas, and probably is why Britain has a bad mental health crisis especially amongst the youth.

 

[Gilly]

Can you name some who have left quitely?

Prince Albert.

Royals that earned their privileges like Princess Ann, Princess Margret who just do their duties and fly under the radar.

 

[Rana]

So is Harry still an heir to anything he can inherit from Prince Charles?

 

[Gilly]

May be everyone else are also believing that same **** that Gilly just told. Some Royals should be protected at the expense of other unimportant ones.

Thats exactly how it works in everything, in the government the higher you are the more protection you get, in the military the higher you are the more protection you get, in religion the higher you are the more protection you get, in cricket the higher you are the more protection you get.

 

[kaayal]

That was their two options, take the money on offer for being royals and fly under the radar or leave the company (royal family) and do your own thing. They are not being forced to be royals, plenty of royals have left the family quietly and gone about their own business. Megan wants the attention from the media but wants to control the content. Don't complain about the media then put yourself in the limelight.

But she was a public person before joining the Royal family and this vicious campaign against her character did damage her image a lot. These tabloids also cashed on her publicity to make money. And when she wants to straighten it by telling her side of story, nobody wants to hear that? Also all the name calling comes?

I really don’t know who are those other Royals that quietly exited from the scene but i am sure they never had those baggage that these 2 ever had. They were celebrated exactly like William and Catherine by the public and their life was always under complete scrutiny of the tabloid.

 

[GenericBrand]

Its like watching a modern day desi family. Talking about whether the child will be fair or dark, being cut off from inheritance, marrying the girl unapproved by family etc etc.

 

[kaayal]

It’s the stereo typical desi machismo mentality.

“Biwi ki waja se khandan chor dia”
“Jory ka ghulam”
“This is how we expect women in our family to act, head down no questioning anything”

But when it comes to our own daughters, sisters or mothers, our standards flip 180 degrees.

Maybe it’s because i am a married-working-mother that i feel these regressive rules so nauseating.

 

[Stewie]

Maybe it’s because i am a married-working-mother that i feel these regressive rules so nauseating.

It’s utterly shameful, that you even had to make such a comment.

Just the fact you had to qualify your belief with your social status, it’s appalling. No matter who it is regardless of gender, social standing, etc should be able to denounce such policies.

 

[Gilly]

But she was a public person before joining the Royal family and this vicious campaign against her character did damage her image a lot. These tabloids also cashed on her publicity to make money. And when she wants to straighten it by telling her side of story, nobody wants to hear that? Also all the name calling comes?

I really don’t know who are those other Royals that quietly exited from the scene but i am sure they never had those baggage that these 2 ever had. They were celebrated exactly like William and Catherine by the public and their life was always under complete scrutiny of the tabloid.

Thats the risk you take when you put yourself up in the media, cricket players, politicians, musicians, reporters themselves. The royal family is a business, there is only one CEO, everyone else is just an employee and have the choice of working in the business or staying private.

Megan is not experiencing anything that others don't, she is just reacting different and being melodramatic.

 

[kaayal]

It’s utterly shameful, that you even had to make such a comment.

Just the fact you had to qualify your belief with your social status, it’s appalling. No matter who it is regardless of gender, social standing, etc should be able to denounce such policies.

What i meant was i can “understand” what Meghan might have felt like being a wife, mother and a working woman who has gotten into such a sick system. When felt unprotected, a mother will use her tooth and nail to protect her child and give it the best possible care she could. That’s exactly what Meg did here.

 

[Stewie]

Thats the risk you take when you put yourself up in the media, cricket players, politicians, musicians, reporters themselves. The royal family is a business, there is only one CEO, everyone else is just an employee and have the choice of working in the business or staying private.

Megan is not experiencing anything that others don't, she is just reacting different and being melodramatic.

I want to know which cricketers, actors, etc had to surrender their passports and driver licenses and had to deal with racism without their employers coming to their rescue...

Maybe you can clue us in..

 

[Stewie]

What i meant was i can “understand” what Meghan might have felt like being a wife, mother and a working woman who has gotten into such a sick system. When felt unprotected, a mother will use her tooth and nail to protect her child and give it the best possible care she could. That’s exactly what Meg did here.

Perhaps you didn’t understand my post. My point was it’s pretty sad you had to mention how you understood she just have felt when we ALL should understand or sympathize with her and not just you.

 

[kaayal]

Perhaps you didn’t understand my post. My point was it’s pretty sad you had to mention how you understood she just have felt when we ALL should understand or sympathize with her and not just you.

My English is really bad lol.

 

[street cricketer]

It’s a bunch of Bull and baloney is what that is. You may think of their civilized nature but not too long ago they were all busy colonizing the whole world and raping a d pillaging other lands and their peoples. So no, I do not hold them in such regard at all. Goes for all of Europe. Yes they are great for their own people but let’s not get into the broader scope here.

And the Royal families of Europe were the ones behind it all, weren’t they? I have zero regard for any of them.

Oh no I wasn't talking about aping their past. But clearly the society itself is much more libertarian and egalitarian than the subcontinent (although some parts of Europe is gradually becoming right wing). I mean, the tribal mentality is so prevalent in the subcontinent where people fight for their religions, castes, etc., all the time so much so that it consumes them while it's much less prevalent in Europe. I know racism does exist there, but it exists everywhere and probably much less in Europe when compared to other places. Put simply, if you're a minority, you're much better off if you were to be born in Europe than anywhere in the subcontinent.

But then, the unrivalled obeisance that the Brits have for the royal family in this 21st century is kinda weird and cringey. I know the "royal family" is not there for the validation of Indians and Pakistanis, that's true, we're not really their "subjects" anymore. But I just don't get the point of the royal family in this modern day and age except maybe for the fact that it's perhaps the best place to study the Mendelian patterns of inheritance.

 

[Bigboii]

I personally have no issues with their colonial past because I feel that although the British imperialism took a lot of wealth and resources from the subcontinent, it also modernized the region and fostered development. Moreover, the introduction of the English language made the first world more accessible.

Nevertheless, it is a different debate for a different day. I would agree with you that we should rally behind Harry and the woman who has him on a leash, but the major issue is their hypocrisy.

Harry cannot adopt his “anti-establishment” stance while using his royalty to earn millions. How about he returns all the inherited wealth and starts from scratch to prove that he is independent and his own man?

As long as he is milking his royalty, majority of the people will not rally behind him and take his victim card seriously.

You claim to be a "knowledgeable" history reader but no deep thinking on this issue, as usual


In 1600s SC was the number 1 economy in the world while the crown of #1 GDP exchanged hands between the two countries throuhout history

this report from 1700s
"India had the strongest economy in 1700, closely followed by China. Throughout the entire period to the middle of the 20th century, China's economy was larger than India's by a relatively small margin. At the same time “the great powers” of the West were still well behind China and India, with France keeping third-place with a GDP less than one fourth that of China and 1/6 that of India."

When British left India was less educated and more de industrialized than ever in its ENTIRE history and economically reeling thier ranking slipped out of top 3 for the first time in its history

to add to my point, compare it to the Chinese who despite being a total mess but still maintaining its pseudo independence was 2 biggest economy after US at the time when India was nowhere in the picture

you think giving us English and their Concept off of morality was worth it?

I call this Uncle Ruckus mentality...

Like honestly I hate this apologist behavior of British colonialism in Desi
Note to posters whenever you find Colonial apologists mention me I guarantee you I will shred every one of their arguments they have into pieces - experience talking

money-back guarantee!

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Not that I support this couple even in the slightest, I love anything that causes backlash against the royal family and slowly watching them fade into irrelevance and become the museum relics that they are, is satisfying to watch.

 

[Stewie]

You claim to be a "knowledgeable" history reader but no deep thinking on this issue, as usual


In 1600s SC was the number 1 economy in the world while the crown of #1 GDP exchanged hands between the two countries throuhout history

this report from 1700s
"India had the strongest economy in 1700, closely followed by China. Throughout the entire period to the middle of the 20th century, China's economy was larger than India's by a relatively small margin. At the same time “the great powers” of the West were still well behind China and India, with France keeping third-place with a GDP less than one fourth that of China and 1/6 that of India."

When British left India was less educated and more de industrialized than ever in its ENTIRE history and economically reeling thier ranking slipped out of top 3 for the first time in its history

to add to my point, compare it to the Chinese who despite being a total mess but still maintaining its pseudo independence was 2 biggest economy after US at the time when India was nowhere in the picture

you think giving us English and their Concept off of morality was worth it?

I call this Uncle Ruckus mentality...

Like honestly I hate this apologist behavior of British colonialism in Desi
Note to posters whenever you find Colonial apologists mention me I guarantee you I will shred every one of their arguments they have into pieces - experience talking

money-back guarantee!

Dude it’s Mamoon, what would you expect?

The subcontinent had all the wealth in the world, all the trade routes, all the spices, fabrics, minerals, rocks, vegetation, you name it. What the subcontinent did not have was the vast naval supremacy or the ugly cunning vile ways of subterfuge that the English possessed.


If the subcontinent had not been colonized, and allowed to develop on its own, you and I and most people here on this forum would have grown up completely differently under totally different social/economic circumstances.

Basically the whole area was pushed a century back and then forced to rebuild the governance models along with a lot of other complications after 1947.

 

[Mamoon]

You claim to be a "knowledgeable" history reader but no deep thinking on this issue, as usual


In 1600s SC was the number 1 economy in the world while the crown of #1 GDP exchanged hands between the two countries throuhout history

this report from 1700s
"India had the strongest economy in 1700, closely followed by China. Throughout the entire period to the middle of the 20th century, China's economy was larger than India's by a relatively small margin. At the same time “the great powers” of the West were still well behind China and India, with France keeping third-place with a GDP less than one fourth that of China and 1/6 that of India."

When British left India was less educated and more de industrialized than ever in its ENTIRE history and economically reeling thier ranking slipped out of top 3 for the first time in its history

to add to my point, compare it to the Chinese who despite being a total mess but still maintaining its pseudo independence was 2 biggest economy after US at the time when India was nowhere in the picture

you think giving us English and their Concept off of morality was worth it?

I call this Uncle Ruckus mentality...

Like honestly I hate this apologist behavior of British colonialism in Desi
Note to posters whenever you find Colonial apologists mention me I guarantee you I will shred every one of their arguments they have into pieces - experience talking

money-back guarantee!

You are parroting Shashi Taroor propaganda. You may as well have posted a link to any of his thousand rants on this topic instead of copy pasting his transcript.

The subcontinent was wealthy in the 1600s with a lot of natural resources and that is why the the British colonized it, but there are no guarantees that subcontinent would have remained a wealthy region after the modernization of the west.

It is important to remember that the west was going through the Renaissance while the Mughals were busy indulging in luxuries. While the west was focused on production and development, the subcontinent was focused on poetry, music and food.

It is very likely that without the advent of British, we would have been worse off than we are today and we would have less access to the developed world because of the language barrier.

The Chinese example is not relevant to the subcontinent. They are a different culture - they are predominantly a homogenous nation and godless people who are not handicapped by religious or moral values.

The tremendous diversity in the subcontinent and the religious indifferences would have made it very difficult for this region to be self-sufficient. Moreover, China was a also a colonial power albeit at a smaller scale, while the subcontinent was not interested in colonizing other regions because it had different priorities.

 

[Mamoon]

Dude it’s Mamoon, what would you expect?

The subcontinent had all the wealth in the world, all the trade routes, all the spices, fabrics, minerals, rocks, vegetation, you name it. What the subcontinent did not have was the vast naval supremacy or the ugly cunning vile ways of subterfuge that the English possessed.


If the subcontinent had not been colonized, and allowed to develop on its own, you and I and most people here on this forum would have grown up completely differently under totally different social/economic circumstances.

Basically the whole area was pushed a century back and then forced to rebuild the governance models along with a lot of other complications after 1947.

If subcontinent was not colonized, it would still have been a theatre of instability and chaos because of the diversity and religious indifferences.

Subcontinent had the wealth but how relevant that wealth would have been compared to the renaissance and enlightenment of Western Europe is a matter of debate.

Just because this region was wealthy in the Middle Ages doesn’t mean that it would have capitalized on that wealth to become the developed world.

 

[Giannis]

Not that I support this couple even in the slightest, I love anything that causes backlash against the royal family and slowly watching them fade into irrelevance and become the museum relics that they are, is satisfying to watch.

They're going no where; this is just another scripted good cop, bad cop gimmick that they and the elites are pulling for PR. It's what you call in urdu "topi drama", people don't realize that meghan's an actor and all of this is scripted and planned from the royal family themselves, helps distract from the controversies if you know what I mean (*cough* Andrew *cough) and they get to draw support from their respective bases (liberals and conservatives on each side).

 

[MenInG]

Buckingham Palace remains silent almost 24 hours after Harry and Meghan's bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey aired in the US - with the British public divided on the couple's explosive claims following its first UK broadcast.

While the world waits for a response from the Royal Family, celebrities and a number of charities have been expressing their support for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex over their comments - notably surrounding Meghan's openness about how her mental health was impacted by her time as a working royal.

Meghan revealed she had suicidal thoughts during her time in the family. The duchess claimed she asked to go somewhere for help, but a senior person in the institution told her it would not look good.

The duchess also claimed - to Oprah's apparent disbelief - that an unnamed member of the royal household had "concerns" about the skin colour of the couple's son Archie before he was born. Oprah later said Harry told her the person was not the Queen or Prince Philip.

Buckingham Palace has not yet commented on the allegations, which have left the British public split. The programme aired in full on UK television on Monday night, prompting huge reaction on social media.

It came hours after a new photo of Prince Harry, Meghan and Archie was shared online - one of the few glimpses the world has had of their young son since he was born in May 2019.

The most vociferous backers of the couple's interview have focused on their discussion about mental health, with some saying that Meghan had saved lives by discussing the issue.

One person on Twitter said: "The courage it took for Meghan to speak about her mental health is remarkable given the hell she was going through. The fact they are now sitting together voicing why they had to leave in order to protect their family. Nothing but respect and admiration."

Another tweet said: "I find it SHOCKING that William and Kate founded a mental health charity @heads_together but Meghan was refused any mental health support and Harry couldn't get her support either. It's actually disgusting. Plain and simple. Everyone deserves access to support when struggling."

Such sentiment has led to criticism for broadcaster Piers Morgan, who said "I'm sickened by what I've had to watch", calling it a "two hour trash-athon of our Royal Family, of the monarchy and everything the Queen has worked so hard for".

"I'm sorry, I don't believe a word she (Meghan) says."

The mental health charity Mind responded by saying: "We were disappointed and concerned to see Piers Morgan's comments on not believing Meghan's experiences about suicidal thoughts today.

"It's vital that when people reach out for support or share their experiences of ill mental health that they are treated with dignity, respect and empathy."

Meanwhile, Little Mix singer Leigh-Anne Pinnock said Meghan's interview showed the "underlying racism lying within the royal establishment".

Pinnock, who is black, shared a message of support for Meghan on Instagram, saying there is no "safety net" for those in the public eye, especially for women of colour.

She wrote: "What people may wish to believe and view as a 'privileged life' let this be a lesson to all of us. When you become known to the public there is no safety net to protect you from what people can fire out and say about you.

"We witness this all the time, particularly concerning women and more to the core, women of colour. Meghan has been dragged from the start and we have all witnessed it.

"I praise her strength and determination for speaking out on her experiences showing the underlying racism lying within the royal establishment."

In support of Prince Harry, former Wales rugby star Gareth Thomas posted a photo of him and the duke together.

He wrote: "MY definition of an amazing human being, is someone who is there for you when you are at your lowest. He was, and is still there. My choice is to LOVE the man I know, and the decisions he makes."

The duke had previously praised Thomas for going public with his HIV diagnosis.

Actor Hugh Jackman said he recommended people should watch the interview, saying: "When someone's brave enough to ask for help, we must listen."

The Terrence Higgins Trust also took to social media to show support for Harry and Meghan.

The charity, which helps people with HIV and AIDS - a cause close to Harry's late mother Princess Diana's heart - wrote: "Prince Harry and Meghan chose our event for World AIDS Day as their first ever official Royal engagement.

"Their shared and continuing passion to HIV awareness has been invaluable. When the world's spotlight was on them, they turned it on our cause. We will always be thankful."

But among the general public in the UK, opinion seems to be more mixed. A new YouGov poll, carried out before the show was aired in full on British television, asked people whether they thought the interview was appropriate or inappropriate.

Some 47% said it was inappropriate, while 21% said it was appropriate and 31% didn't know.

People were also asked how much sympathy they have for Harry and Meghan - 12% said a lot, 17% a fair amount, 23% said not very much, 33% none at all, and 15% didn't know.

And they were asked how much sympathy they have for senior members of the Royal Family - some 16% said a lot, 23% said a fair amount, 25% said not very much, 20% said none at all, and 16% did not know.

On a special programme ahead of the interview's full UK debut, Sky News brought together comedian Gina Yashere, lawyer and activist Dr Shola Mos-Shogbamimu and actor Kelechi Okafor.

They gave their thoughts on the allegations of racism from within the royal household.

Yashere said she "wasn't surprised", adding: "We knew there was racism. Britain's wealth is built on the backs of colonialism and slavery.

"They (Harry and Meghan) held nothing back... and I'm glad now it's all out in the open for everybody to discuss."

Dr Shola said it was "pure racism" and there was no way to "misunderstand" the comments about Archie's skin.

Okafor added that she is "tired" of the narrative that the royals are "colour blind" or don't see colour, saying: "Anti-blackness is inherent in the entire institution."

Meanwhile, in America, where more than 17 million tuned in to watch it overnight, Sky's US correspondent Greg Milam said people in Los Angeles who he had spoken to had taken the side of Harry and Meghan.

Milam said people "have some very strong views particularly to that question of the discussions about the colour of Archie's skin".

"In this climate in America, in the Black Lives Matter climate, there are some serious questions, some very big anger amongst people. And people here are asking for an answer from the Royal Family," he said.

"They want to know who it was that had those discussions - and what is going to be done to address what was contained in that interview."

"For so long, the Royal Family has been a bit of a distant soap opera. But now this is very much in close focus for them because we are talking about one of their own, an American citizen making allegations about the Royal Family."

The newly-shared black and white image of Harry, Meghan and Archie was taken by photographer Misan Harriman.

It captures a smiling, pregnant Meghan, stood by a tree cuddling Archie, as Harry stands behind her, embracing his wife, who is due to have a girl this summer.

Harriman wrote on social media: "What wonderful news to celebrate on International Women's Day! Congratulations my friends, and welcome to the #girldad club H."

https://news.sky.com/story/meghan-a...ombshell-oprah-discussion-airs-in-uk-12240360

 

[Robert]

) this was epic.

Since we desis are all POC and a lot of us are married to POC, do we get this out-of-jail card too? Or is it reserved only for white men marrying women of color?

Really not understanding your confusion on this. It’s quite straightforward. Prince Harry said and did some stupid things when he was younger as we all do, but by marrying a woman of colour it is safe to say that he has learned about the black perspective.

 

[James]

The absolute contempt for both women and BIPOC in the British press is clearer than ever to see after this interview.

 

[Robert]

Not that I support this couple even in the slightest, I love anything that causes backlash against the royal family and slowly watching them fade into irrelevance and become the museum relics that they are, is satisfying to watch.

I think it is time for them to be downgraded in scale, like the various other crowned heads of Europe have been. Buckingham Palace (only) for the core Royals, who are paid a sensible amount for ceremonial duties. All the rest get jobs.

 

[MenInG]

Crisis meetings involving senior royals have taken place following the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's interview with Oprah Winfrey.

BBC royal correspondent Daniela Relph said it was "increasingly unsustainable for Buckingham Palace to say nothing" about Prince Harry and Meghan's claims.

She said the palace "will not want to feel rushed into saying something".

Prince Harry and Meghan spoke about racism, mental health, the media and other royals in the interview.

Meghan - the first mixed-race member of the modern Royal Family - said a low point came when Harry was asked by an unnamed royal family member "how dark" their son Archie's skin might be.

Prince Harry later clarified to Winfrey that the comments were not made by either the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh .

Meanwhile, US President Joe Biden's spokeswoman said he would praise anyone for having the courage to speak out about mental health.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki described Prince Harry, 36, and Meghan, 39, as "private citizens" who were "sharing their own story in their own struggles".

The two-hour interview was broadcast on Sunday by CBS in the US and was screened in the UK on ITV on Monday night.

In their interview, the duchess said that she found royal life so difficult that at times she "didn't want to be alive any more" , and when she approached the institution for help, she did not get it.

Labour's shadow education secretary Kate Green said Meghan's claims were "really distressing, shocking".

She told Sky News: "If there are allegations of racism, I would expect them to be treated by the palace with the utmost seriousness and fully investigated."

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said that Meghan's allegations about racism and a lack of mental health support should be taken "very seriously".

Prime Minister Boris Johnson declined to comment on Monday, but said he has "always had the highest admiration for the Queen and the unifying role she plays".

He said "when it comes to matters to do with the Royal Family, the right thing for prime ministers to say is nothing", after being asked specifically if he believed the Royal Family was racist.

During the interview, the duchess was asked why she thought the Royal Family did not make Archie a prince - which Meghan said she wanted so that he would get police protection.

"In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time so we have in tandem the conversation of he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title, and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he was born," Meghan said.

She said the remarks about skin colour were made to Harry and he relayed them to her.

The couple's children do not automatically become princes or princesses due to a rule that has been in place since 1917 - unless the Queen steps in.

'Damaging'
Asked by Oprah whether there were concerns that her child would be "too brown" and that would be a problem, Meghan said: "If that is the assumption you are making, that is a pretty safe one."

When pressed, she refused to reveal who the individual was, saying: "I think that would be very damaging to them."

Prince Harry also refused to give further details, saying: "That conversation, I am never going to share."

"At the time it was awkward, I was a bit shocked," he added.

Oprah later revealed that the prince had shared with her that the remarks had not come from his grandparents - the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh.

Prince Harry said that none of his relatives spoke out in support of Meghan about the "colonial undertones" of news headlines and articles.

"No-one from my family ever said anything over those three years. That hurts," he said.

The couple moved to California after formally stepping down from royal duties in March 2020, and it was announced last month that they would not be returning as working members of the Royal Family.

In new footage not included in the original interview, Prince Harry was asked if the couple left the UK because of racism , and replied: "It was a large part of it."

In other key revelations:

The couple announced their second child, which is due in the summer, is a girl
They exchanged vows in a ceremony led by the Archbishop of Canterbury in their "backyard" three days before they were legally married at their public wedding in May 2018
Prince Harry said his brother and father were "trapped within the system" of the Royal Family
He said his family cut him off financially at the beginning of last year and his father stopped taking his calls
But the prince said he loved his brother "to bits" and wanted to heal his relationship with both him and his father
Meghan said she phoned the Queen after Prince Philip went into hospital last month

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-56329887?__twitter_impression=true

 

[shaz619]

Disturbing the obsession with the Royal Family here in the UK, if folk weren’t so gullible maybe they’d get paid a bit more during the month

 

[CricketCartoons]

The absolute contempt for both women and BIPOC in the British press is clearer than ever to see after this interview.

The moment I saw this alien term BIPOC, knew it would be same as that LGTQABCDEFG. An umbrella term for people so they can collectively claim victimhood.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Really not understanding your confusion on this. It’s quite straightforward. Prince Harry said and did some stupid things when he was younger as we all do, but by marrying a woman of colour it is safe to say that he has learned about the black perspective.

So anyone who marries a woman cannot be a misogynist. As someone who marries a person of color cannot be a racist.

 

[Robert]

So anyone who marries a woman cannot be a misogynist. As someone who marries a person of color cannot be a racist.

We are talking about one man, so stop generalising.

Prince Harry has learned from his clever and articulate wife and thereby gained a new perspective on race and history.

 

[Robert]

The absolute contempt for both women and BIPOC in the British press is clearer than ever to see after this interview.

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION], I would say the Duchess of Sussex is certainly facing prejudice for being black and for being a woman and for being a black woman - misogynoir as I heard on LBC the other day. I must learn more about Intersectionality.

 

[CricketCartoons]

We are talking about one man, so stop generalising.

Prince Harry has learned from his clever and articulate wife and thereby gained a new perspective on race and history.

Didn't know meghan is teaching harry lessons on race and history. How do you know this? This is inside scoop.

Good to know you concede that a white person marrying a black person can still be racist.

 

[Gilly]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION], I would say the Duchess of Sussex is certainly facing prejudice for being black and for being a woman and for being a black woman - misogynoir as I heard on LBC the other day. I must learn more about Intersectionality.

Being black is just playing the race card, Diana who is not black went through the same thing but she is white.

 

[IMMY69]

Didn't know meghan is teaching harry lessons on race and history. How do you know this? This is inside scoop.

Good to know you concede that a white person marrying a black person can still be racist.

Inside scoop? It's in the interview

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Being black is just playing the race card, Diana who is not black went through the same thing but she is white.

Absolutely. There was also concern for how black Diana's children will be. It has nothing to do with Meghan being black, the royals just like discussing melanin levels.

 

[Waq]

Did Meghan marry him solely because of him and his soul in the purest sense? I suspect no and a major factor was marrying a prince and becoming royalty. I form my opinion based on her being a middle tier ambitious actor and tend to find such people egotistical and vain.

If this is my view so far then the fact is that she has married into a family that is an institution with rigid traditions and protocol. She would have been briefed on all of this by royalty and their admin staff prior to marriage. She would have known that she has to be a certain way and cannot change the institution. Did she care, no? Was she hurt or treated unfairly at times, yes. Meghan also heavily manipulated the media and used spin doctors hence she has been attacked so much. She’s no shrinking violet.

Now, allegedly her and Harry have left for a life of privacy but want money and titles from the royal family, multi million pound Netflix deals mix Spotify deals and now one of the most famous and hyped Opera Winfrey interviews ever - on par with Michael Jackson!

She’s seeking fame and attention. She dislikes her family and dislikes his family and friends too. She has no genuine friends according to reports. What sort of life is this? I hope Harry finds this all worth it the dim wit traumatised idiot who is being held under a thumb.

 

[Robert]

Didn't know meghan is teaching harry lessons on race and history. How do you know this? This is inside scoop.

Because they hold conversations. Because he will have noticed the ways in which she has been treated differently to her sister-in-law.

 

[Robert]

Did Meghan marry him solely because of him and his soul in the purest sense? I suspect no and a major factor was marrying a prince and becoming royalty. I form my opinion based on her being a middle tier ambitious actor and tend to find such people egotistical and vain.

If this is my view so far then the fact is that she has married into a family that is an institution with rigid traditions and protocol. She would have been briefed on all of this by royalty and their admin staff prior to marriage. She would have known that she has to be a certain way and cannot change the institution. Did she care, no? Was she hurt or treated unfairly at times, yes. Meghan also heavily manipulated the media and used spin doctors hence she has been attacked so much. She’s no shrinking violet.

Now, allegedly her and Harry have left for a life of privacy but want money and titles from the royal family, multi million pound Netflix deals mix Spotify deals and now one of the most famous and hyped Opera Winfrey interviews ever - on par with Michael Jackson!

She’s seeking fame and attention. She dislikes her family and dislikes his family and friends too. She has no genuine friends according to reports. What sort of life is this? I hope Harry finds this all worth it the dim wit traumatised idiot who is being held under a thumb.

Or maybe the clever man who has bravely found a way out of the life he was trapped in like his father and his brother are, and is now happy.

 

[James]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION], I would say the Duchess of Sussex is certainly facing prejudice for being black and for being a woman and for being a black woman - misogynoir as I heard on LBC the other day. I must learn more about Intersectionality.

Intersectionality is a fascinating model for working out where there is privilege and where there is disadvantage, and in both cases to what extent.

BIPOC is Black, Indigenous and People of Colour. It seems to be overtaking BAME as the preferred catchall term.

 

[Waq]

Or maybe the clever man who has bravely found a way out of the life he was trapped in like his father and his brother are, and is now happy.

I like where you are going with your perspective. Perhaps even further, the Opera Winfrey interview could be seen as self destructive behaviour to ensure the family ties are cut.

However, if your suggested perspective is correct then I’d prefer for Harry and Meghan to be much more discrete in how they live their life

 

[CricketCartoons]

Intersectionality is a fascinating model for working out where there is privilege and where there is disadvantage, and in both cases to what extent.

BIPOC is Black, Indigenous and People of Colour. It seems to be overtaking BAME as the preferred catchall term.

What is the utility of this term? Black covers the blacks, obviously. Indigenous covers the native brits, most of whom are white. People of Colour covers the immigrants, mostly desis. So who is left out?

 

[Gilly]

Absolutely. There was also concern for how black Diana's children will be. It has nothing to do with Meghan being black, the royals just like discussing melanin levels.

Desi's discuss melanin levels far more than any other race on the planet but you have an excuse for that too don't you.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Desi's discuss melanin levels far more than any other race on the planet but you have an excuse for that too don't you.

nah no excuses that's straight up wrong too. whats your excuse?

 

[Technics 1210]

Such plebs.

READ the first page of your British Passport. You lot claiming British citizenship are nothing without the Queen and the Monarchy - time to wake up and get educated.

Read every word of the first page because I bet you havn't.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Such plebs.

READ the first page of your British Passport. You lot claiming British citizenship are nothing without the Queen and the Monarchy - time to wake up and get educated.

Read every word of the first page because I bet you havn't.

What has the first page of the passport got to be with British citizenship?

 

[Gilly]

nah no excuses that's straight up wrong too. whats your excuse?

Hahahaha so if a desi girl tells her parents that she is dating a black man they would say "oh thats nice dear why dont you invite him around for dinner". No one is as blind as those that refuse to open their eyes.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

True, no one is addressing the wrongdoing here. Everyone are like she should have sucked up to everything on her way because she chose to get married to the Royal family. Nobody want to address the human-side of her sufferings.

Well that's the point. She did choose to get married to the Royal family. If she was such a libertarian, why would you choose to do that? It's not like she would have bumped into him by accident by casually tripping over the Atlantic ocean.

Royals are called blue bloods for a reason, they are considered to be of higher stock than the average Markle. If she wanted a more equal family relationship she should have stayed in California. She only wanted to give up the Royal trappings and the delight of being a royal Princess once she found out that substantial responsibilities come with it.

Heck I am not even a supporter of the royal famiy, it's prehistoric and outdated. But I'm not the one who jumped in head first to try to gain access via marriage to this awful institution.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Hahahaha so if a desi girl tells her parents that she is dating a black man they would say "oh thats nice dear why dont you invite him around for dinner". No one is as blind as those that refuse to open their eyes.

I don't see the point you are making here with these strange side ways stuff about desi. The duke of sussex isn't complaining about a hypothetical desi family, but his very real family. I don't understand why you would bring Desi views randomly in?

To me its clearly racism no matter if a desi does it or the royal family. You are the one that says it is the race card and plays it down.

It was also Harry who felt it was racism and not Meghan. Do you think Harry is playing the race card here?

 

[Gilly]

I don't see the point you are making here with these strange side ways stuff about desi. The duke of sussex isn't complaining about a hypothetical desi family, but his very real family. I don't understand why you would bring Desi views randomly in?

To me its clearly racism no matter if a desi does it or the royal family. You are the one that says it is the race card and plays it down.

It was also Harry who felt it was racism and not Meghan. Do you think Harry is playing the race card here?

Yes they are just playing the race card. Can you name the person that said anything racist, can you tell us what they said and in what context. Would it be racism if someone asked what are the chances of their child being a ranga?.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't see the point you are making here with these strange side ways stuff about desi. The duke of sussex isn't complaining about a hypothetical desi family, but his very real family. I don't understand why you would bring Desi views randomly in?

To me its clearly racism no matter if a desi does it or the royal family. You are the one that says it is the race card and plays it down.

It was also Harry who felt it was racism and not Meghan. Do you think Harry is playing the race card here?

Harry didn't even realise it was racism, he clearly said as much in the interview. It was only once he was married to Meghan that he encountered institutional racism which has become a buzzword these days. All of that would have seemed perfectly normal before getting educated by Meghan.

For me it is a moot point. Should we have racism? No. But we've got a Royal family, and the premise is built on superiority of stock so you can understand why if they want to preserve royalty, they need to preserve their bloodlines. Every time you dilute it, it becomes less royal.

 

[Technics 1210]

What has the first page of the passport got to be with British citizenship?

You are a British Citizenship by royal fiat.

Read the first page of your British Passport.

 

[Saj]

I found the comparisons between the treatment of Meghan and Kate by the media very interesting and revealing.

Also I don't buy the theory that Meghan is just lying for publicity. To go in front of such a massive audience and speak out like she has takes guts.

 

[Sir-fraz]

I found the comparisons between the treatment of Meghan and Kate by the media very interesting and revealing.

Also I don't buy the theory that Meghan is just lying for publicity. To go in front of such a massive audience and speak out like she has takes guts.

Bro use some logic. Its all about fame abd publicity. Thry got paid to do the interview.

My whole problem with all this is why am i hearing about these two who wanted a "normal life" clear lies right there. Give interviews like spoilt brats.

Dont fall for fake public tears. Media is all facade.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I found the comparisons between the treatment of Meghan and Kate by the media very interesting and revealing.

Also I don't buy the theory that Meghan is just lying for publicity. To go in front of such a massive audience and speak out like she has takes guts.

There are millions to be made.

 

[Sir-fraz]

There are millions to be made.

People fall for the media facade too fast... its literally a t.v. show they have reharsed, acted , cut, etcc. Anything to do with t.v. just thibk of it as entertainment.

 

[MenInG]

Some drama as Piers Morgan walks off his OWN show!

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[Gilly]

Megan is estranged from her own family, she has issues with her father and siblings, now she has issues with the family of Harry. Megan just does not seem to be a family person and is too wrapped up in her own ego to have a normal relationship with family. I can see a divorce on the horizon.

 

[Saj]

Bro use some logic. Its all about fame abd publicity. Thry got paid to do the interview.

My whole problem with all this is why am i hearing about these two who wanted a "normal life" clear lies right there. Give interviews like spoilt brats.

Dont fall for fake public tears. Media is all facade.

At the start of the interview they said she wasn't being paid.

I think those of us who saw what happened to Princess Diana have seen all this before.

 

[Saj]

The race issues raised by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are "concerning" and will be addressed by the family privately, Buckingham Palace has said.

In a statement, the Palace said "recollections may vary" but the claims made in their interview with Oprah Winfrey were "taken very seriously".

Meghan told Winfrey Harry had been asked by an unnamed family member "how dark" their son Archie's skin might be.

The Palace said the Sussexes would "always be much loved family members".

Pressure had been growing on Buckingham Palace to respond after Meghan - the first mixed-race member of the modern Royal Family - revealed the comments about their son's skin colour.

Prince Harry later clarified to Winfrey that the comments were not made by either the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh.

The statement, which came a day and a half after the interview was first broadcast in the US, said: "The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.

"The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. Whilst some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately."

The response from Buckingham Palace came after crisis meetings involving senior royals in the wake of the deeply personal interview by the Sussexes, who spoke about racism, mental health, the media and other members of the Royal Family.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56340451

 

[MenInG]

Piers Morgan is being investigated by Ofcom for comments he made on ITV’s Good Morning Britain about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s interview with Oprah Winfrey.

The media regulator said it launched the probe after receiving more than 41,000 complaints over remarks Mr Morgan made on the daily news programme, which he co-anchors with Susanna Reid, on Monday.

The controversial media figure described Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s tell-all interview with Mrs Winfrey, which aired in the US on Sunday and in the UK the following day, as “a two-hour trash-a-thon of our royal family” for which Ms Markle deserved an Oscar nomination.

Ms Markle told Mrs Winfrey that the abuse she suffered from the British tabloids, and the lack of support she received from the royal family, left her feeling as though she “didn’t want to be alive anymore”.

She said her “mental welfare” deteriorated to such an extent that she was forced to go to events with her husband for fear of what she might do if she was “left alone”.

Both the Duke and Duchess also claimed they approached people in the royal “institution” for help but were turned away.

Responding to the revelations, Mr Morgan questioned their validity. “Who did you go to? What did they say to you?” he asked, appearing to insist that because the couple failed to provide Mrs Winfrey with names – they were lying.

He continued: “I’m sorry, I don’t believe a word she said, Meghan Markle. I wouldn’t believe it if she read me a weather report.”

The reaction promoted mental health charity Mind to release a statement to say it was “disappointed and concerned to see [Mr Morgan’s] comments on not believing Meghan’s experiences about suicidal thoughts today”.

Mr Morgan, who has worked at such titles as The Sun, News of the World, The Mirror and MailOnline, also condemned the pair’s bashing of the British press, saying he was “sickened” by the “absolutely disgraceful” interview and was “angry to the point of falling over”.

He also said the pair could not be seen as “compassionate” because they had “trashed” Harry’s family and “everything the Queen has worked so hard to maintain”.

An Ofcom spokesperson said: “We have launched an investigation into Monday’s episode of Good Morning Britain under our harm and offence rules.”

The episode, which had received 41,015 complaints about Mr Morgan’s comments by 2pm on Tuesday, is on its way to becoming one of the regulator’s most complained-about incidents ever.

It is already higher than the number racked up by Britain’s Got Talent’s Black Lives Matter row last year (24,500) and close to matching the Shilpa Shetty race row with Jade Goody on Big Brother in 2007, which attracted more than 44,500 complaints.

On Tuesday, Mr Morgan stormed off the set of Good Morning Britain altogether after clashing with the show’s weather presenter, Alex Beresford, about Harry and Meghan’s interview.

Mr Beresford defended the couple, telling his colleague: “I understand you’ve got a personal relationship with Meghan Markle, or had one, and she cut you off. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don’t think she has but yet you continue to trash her.”

Mr Morgan then got up, saying “sorry, can’t do this”, and left the studio, which he later defended on Twitter: “I just prefer not to sit there listening to colleagues call me diabolical.”

Harry and Meghan made many more revelations during the interview, including about systemic racism within Buckingham Palace which they saw through its treatment of their son, Archie, before he was born.

The Palace has, in the past hour, responded to the interview officially on behalf of the Queen, to say the allegations would be “address by the family privately”.

“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan,” the statement reads.

“The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.

“Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/piers-morgan-meghan-oprah-ofcom-b1814735.html

 

[MenInG]

Piers Morgan has decided to leave Good Morning Britain after a row over remarks he made about the Duchess of Sussex’s mental health.

ITV said it had accepted the presenter’s decision to leave the breakfast show, saying in a statement: “Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add.”

Ofcom has launched an investigation into Morgan’s comments, after receiving more than 41,000 complaints.

Morgan had made dismissive remarks on Monday’s show about Meghan’s claims during a tell-all interview with Oprah Winfrey that aired in the US on Sunday night to have had issues with her mental health.

Ofcom said it had received 41,015 complaints about Morgan’s comments as of early Tuesday afternoon and had launched an investigation into whether or not he had broken the UK broadcasting code.

In Winfrey’s interview with Meghan and her husband, Prince Harry, the duchess detailed how her mental health had deteriorated while she was pregnant amid a barrage of negative press and lack of support from “the firm” – the apparatus surrounding the royal household – which had repeatedly turned down her appeals for help and discouraged her from leaving the house for months.

“It was all happening just because I was breathing,” Meghan said, breaking down in tears during the interview, which was broadcast on ITV on Monday night. “I just didn’t want to be alive any more. That was a clear, real, frightening and constant thought.”

Morgan, who has been a constant critic of Meghan, questioned on Monday whether she was telling the truth. “Who did you go to?” he said on Monday morning’s GMB show. “What did they say to you? I’m sorry, I don’t believe a word she said, Meghan Markle. I wouldn’t believe it if she read me a weather report.”

During Tuesday’s programme, Morgan addressed his comments, saying: “When we talked about this yesterday, I said as an all-encompassing thing I don’t believe what Meghan Markle is saying generally in this interview, and I still have serious concerns about the veracity of a lot of what she said.

“But let me just state on the record my position about mental illness and on suicide. These are clearly extremely serious things that should be taken extremely seriously, and if someone is feeling that way they should get the treatment and help they need every time.”

On the same show, however, Morgan stormed off set after the discussion about Meghan with his colleague Alex Beresford.

The weather presenter defended the couple, telling Morgan: “I understand you’ve got a personal relationship with Meghan Markle, or had one, and she cut you off. She’s entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don’t think she has but yet you continue to trash her.”

ITV’s chief executive, Dame Carolyn McCall, subsequently said on Tuesday the row was not “manufactured”.

McCall added that ITV’s managing director of media and entertainment, Kevin Lygo, had been in discussion with Morgan in recent days regarding his coverage of the Harry and Meghan interview. She said Good Morning Britain was a balanced show, adding: “ITV has many voices and we try and represent many voices every day. It’s not about one opinion.”

A statement issued by Buckingham Palace on behalf of the Queen on Tuesday said the royal family was saddened by the revelations made in the Oprah interview and the issues raised around race were “concerning”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...b-piers-morgan-comments-harry-meghan-sussexes

 

[ElRaja]

Megan is estranged from her own family, she has issues with her father and siblings, now she has issues with the family of Harry. Megan just does not seem to be a family person and is too wrapped up in her own ego to have a normal relationship with family. I can see a divorce on the horizon.

this, i know its not the accepted view to have, but a girl like meghan, from a guys pov, from mine at least screams red flags, she is the centre of her own world and will always be.

having said that the british press have deffo treated her worse cos shes an outsider, black or american, take your pick.

the problem is everyone is so wed to their politically motivated stances in the media that no one comes out and says the truth is that both sides are right to some degree.

 

[Mamoon]

A divorce is not on the cards because Harry is a puppet.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

A divorce is not on the cards because Harry is a puppet.

There could be a divorce in the future, but would be Meghan's choice not Harry's. But realistically you are right, she has got him well trained and he is jumping through all the hoops, there's really no need for a divorce on her part. She bagged herself a royal husband, and she took him home once he was litter trained.

 

[dildilpak]

So let me get this straight - Harry had his security removed, financially strangled, his military honors revoked & cast out of the family for standing by his bi-racial wife & kid. His wife is ‘investigated’ by the royal family because somebody conveniently made work-place harassment allegations against her a day before her tell-all interview.

And Prince Andrew - the best pal of a convicted pedo, his probable partner in disgusting crimes, the one NY police is seeking to question - never had his security revoked, financially cut off, military titles revoked or investigated by the Palace.

If this is not discrimination, dont know what is. The royal house truly is ‘the Firm’. No wonder they both ran away from it - seems to be a den of vipers.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You are a British Citizenship by royal fiat.

Read the first page of your British Passport.

I suggest you read it first. The passport has nothing to do with citizenship and doesn't mention it. It merely asks the country you are visiting to let you in because the queen requests it.

 

[kaayal]

Well that's the point. She did choose to get married to the Royal family. If she was such a libertarian, why would you choose to do that? It's not like she would have bumped into him by accident by casually tripping over the Atlantic ocean.

Royals are called blue bloods for a reason, they are considered to be of higher stock than the average Markle. If she wanted a more equal family relationship she should have stayed in California. She only wanted to give up the Royal trappings and the delight of being a royal Princess once she found out that substantial responsibilities come with it.

Heck I am not even a supporter of the royal famiy, it's prehistoric and outdated. But I'm not the one who jumped in head first to try to gain access via marriage to this awful institution.

She was an exceptionally good working member of the Royal family (as long as it lasted) and people especially of colour did look at her with awe. I still remember her Australian tour where she announced her pregnancy, she was glowing but after that everything went downgrade. I think the Palace did wanted to “tone her down” so that focus doesn’t shift from it’s main members.

Also while she was pregnant (and her hormones were out of her control), she comes to know that the baby will not be having security and Title, how can she stay calm knowing that her kid will be unprotected from the vicious UK tabloid? And on top of that there is racist talks too which is insulting to anyone. I am not surprised that she had a mental health issue because of this. And the saddest part is that no one supported her even after asking for help.

Just because she chose to marry a Royal doesn’t mean she should be denied of any help when needed. Be it mental health or anything.

 

[dildilpak]

IMO, the Brits should consider scrapping this whole monarchy after Queen Elizabeth passes away or atleast hand over the reigns directly to William skipping over another oldie Charles - they still seem to be stuck in some kinda wierd colonial time warp & one which is completely irrelevant in the 21st century. Never understood the obsession with them in today’s age - why should taxpayers continue to fund these dysfunctional dinosaurs?

 

[ElRaja]

IMO, the Brits should consider scrapping this whole monarchy after Queen Elizabeth passes away or atleast hand over the reigns directly to William skipping over another oldie Charles - they still seem to be stuck in some kinda wierd colonial time warp & one which is completely irrelevant in the 21st century. Never understood the obsession with them in today’s age - why should taxpayers continue to fund these dysfunctional dinosaurs?

there is no obsession, just that most people are used to queen elizabeth, no one sees the point of rocking the boat in her lifetime.

im pretty sure calls to dissolve the monarchy will increase when charles comes to the throne.

 

[Giannis]

IMO, the Brits should consider scrapping this whole monarchy after Queen Elizabeth passes away or atleast hand over the reigns directly to William skipping over another oldie Charles - they still seem to be stuck in some kinda wierd colonial time warp & one which is completely irrelevant in the 21st century. Never understood the obsession with them in today’s age - why should taxpayers continue to fund these dysfunctional dinosaurs?

Several European countries have monarchies, we just don't hear about their drama.

 

[Stewie]

The monarchy is a matter of pride for them. Let the people decide if they want to keep it, and it seems most British people do want to.

Who are we to tell them otherwise..

 

[sweep_shot]

Piers Morgan leaves ITV's Good Morning Britain after row over Meghan remarks

Piers Morgan has left ITV's Good Morning Britain following a row over comments he made about the Duchess of Sussex.

It brings the controversial host's time on the show to an end after six years.

ITV announced the decision after Ofcom said it was investigating his comments after receiving 41,000 complaints.

On Monday's show, Morgan said he "didn't believe a word" the duchess had told Oprah Winfrey about her mental health in an interview.

An ITV spokesperson said: "Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add."

The channel confirmed to the BBC that his departure from the breakfast news show will take effect immediately but declined to say who would be replacing him on Wednesday.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56334082.

 

[Stewie]

Piers Morgan is really opinionated, isn’t he? Just like Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc..
Haha

 

[Robert]

IMO, the Brits should consider scrapping this whole monarchy after Queen Elizabeth passes away or atleast hand over the reigns directly to William skipping over another oldie Charles - they still seem to be stuck in some kinda wierd colonial time warp & one which is completely irrelevant in the 21st century. Never understood the obsession with them in today’s age - why should taxpayers continue to fund these dysfunctional dinosaurs?

Because the Queen is still very popular.

Because we would have to elect an executive President and work out what powers they are to have.

It’s a difficult thing to turn our backs on a thousand years.

 

[Robert]

There could be a divorce in the future, but would be Meghan's choice not Harry's. But realistically you are right, she has got him well trained and he is jumping through all the hoops, there's really no need for a divorce on her part. She bagged herself a royal husband, and she took him home once he was litter trained.

I am a bit surprised at this, Cap. Comparing our Prince to a dog?

Clearly he is very deeply in love with her, but it looks like an equal partnership to me.