JaDed
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He will never be Sachin of Pakistan.
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its better to say that he could never ba a kohli of Pakistan otherwise sachin also had the same story as a captain.He will never be Sachin of Pakistan.
How did Sachin have same story? Sachin removed from captaincy played under Azhar Ganguly Dravid Dhoniits better to say that he could never ba a kohli of Pakistan otherwise sachin also had the same story as a captain.
Sachin turned down captaincy. It was a voluntary decision. Everyone else was inexperienced.How did Sachin have same story? Sachin removed from captaincy played under Azhar Ganguly Dravid Dhoni
Babar and Rixwan were rested for the Afghanistan series and we saw what happened. humiliation. so everybody saw what this team is without themI just hope that Babar and Rizwan rest for the New Zealand series. That way everyone can see how important they are once New Zealand beat us black and blue
That's not fair because our full strength team got humiliated by Afghanistan as well.Babar and Rixwan were rested for the Afghanistan series and we saw what happened. humiliation. so everybody saw what this team is without them
People are very blind these days. I am not sure when they will start praising a player we never had before in last 2 decades.
Babar and Rixwan were rested for the Afghanistan series and we saw what happened. humiliation. so everybody saw what this team is without them
People are very blind these days. I am not sure when they will start praising a player we never had before in last 2 decades.
We managed to win one game whereas pur full strength team also got butchered by Afghanistan?As they say, when you have pitch forks and torches in front of your face, it's hard to see the truth. Always looking for a witch hunt our fans
We managed to win one game whereas pur full strength team also got butchered by Afghanistan?
I don't see what your exact point is?
Afghanistan is ironically superior to us, their just chockers.
From 2014 to 2024 they should have beaten us in all tournaments. But it was always some no ball, or some bowler giving 5 wides etc that caused them to lose.
In tournaments we never beat them, they lost to us because they threw it away.
Even in that 3-0 series we had, it should have been 2-1. They threw away the game where they got 3-0, Giving away 5 wides, and having a trundler bowl at the death.
In the world cup, all they did was get rid of their no 1 chocker bowler who's been causing defeats for them and stopped fearing us.
Even in that game guess who was the top scorer. LOL. Bowlers failed to defend a good total but but but, it is because of babar who should have bowled all 50 overs himself NO?The point is really simple: we are a weaker side without Babar and Rizwan.
The Afghanistan defeat in the WC was disappointing no doubt. I didn't expect to lose to them in an ODI however Babar isn't the only one to blame for that. We put up 280+ and could've easily defended it if the bowlers had done their job.
All I'm saying is please extend the same courtesy to Babar that you are giving to Afghanistan. He's been unlucky too with dropped catches and poor bowling at crucial stages of a match.
Even in that game guess who was the top scorer. LOL. Bowlers failed to defend a good total but but but, it is because of babar who should have bowled all 50 overs himself NO?
We are not a weaker side without Babar and rizwan,The point is really simple: we are a weaker side without Babar and Rizwan.
The Afghanistan defeat in the WC was disappointing no doubt. I didn't expect to lose to them in an ODI however Babar isn't the only one to blame for that. We put up 280+ and could've easily defended it if the bowlers had done their job.
All I'm saying is please extend the same courtesy to Babar that you are giving to Afghanistan. He's been unlucky too with dropped catches and poor bowling at crucial stages of a match.
We as a cricket fan, will never be satisfied with babar I guess. Obsession is at its peak when Babar's name pops up.If we also had Naseem Shah, we could've won easily. He has his number over Afg
No we wouldn't.If we also had Naseem Shah, we could've won easily. He has his number over Afg
No we wouldn't.
Naseem shah is our best bowler 100%, something that people were making fun of me for 5 months back when I made it clear that naseem is superior, but everyone was living on cloud 9 for shaheen's they cannot play him nonsense.
Despite being proven right everyone changed sides and now they pretend as if I never made that that claim , because admitting it, would mean admitting I was right, but ego checkes won't allow it.
Regardless deapite me constantly supporting naseem and even going so far as to claim, that out of every player in pur team, no one makes it to the Indian squad except for Naseem, as naseem would be a good backup bowler if siraj, bumrah and shani got injured, since without shami, they had to rely on thakur, who deapite being an allrounder, was useless with bowling, so India didn't mind weakening their batting for a genuine bowler.
Naseem would easily take thakur's place.
Any way my whole point is, Naseem is a great bowler, but he ain't a miracle worker. Shaheen, Rauf, Shadab, Nawaz being run machines wouldn't have helped him, Afghan's could have easily tuk tuked him and bashed everyone else like they did.
Naseem wouldn't have made a huge difference in that game, although he'd be the only bowler afghans wouldn't attack.
What you remember or don't remember is irrelevant. If you think I'm lying then frankly speaking idc, I told you my og point of view I was making months back, that's all.So our best bowler and a proven clutch against Afghanistan wouldn't have made a difference? But Afghanistan dropping their choker did?
Do you see your obvious contraditions and hence why I don't take your cricket opinion seriously?
Plus I don't remember your stance on Naseem as all I have heard recently is Babar bashing. The only time I had a discussion with you about bowlers was Shaheen when you said he's not World class. Shaheen is the better bowler when he's fully fit but he's even better with Naseem bowling at the other end. If we had the Shah duo opening the bowling together it would've been impossible for Afghanistan to chase. Shaheen (the eagle) needs Naseem (the wind) to fly higher
I hope I am not breaking any rules by sharing these comments, but Rashid Latif is on record stating all of this and is quite impartial on this whole drama happening right now.@Savak you love quoting journalists and ex-cricketers so much, I’m surprised you missed out Rashid Latif stating clearly how Shaheen started all of this by back-stabbing Babar during the World Cup 2023.
Yes, this happened DURING one of the most important in world cricket, where the PCB chairman was outright ignoring the national team captain and having back-channel talks with other players.
Apparently Rizwan was also approached but he outright refused Zaka Ashraf’s crooked approaches, while Shaheen was enjoying the lime-light and should have refused to indulge Zaka. Shaheen was actually the third choice, after Rizwan and Shadab refused to go against Babar.
What goes around comes around, Babar resigned while Shaheen has been forcefully removed.
Shaheen went behind Babar’s back after 1 series?@Savak you love quoting journalists and ex-cricketers so much, I’m surprised you missed out Rashid Latif stating clearly how Shaheen started all of this by back-stabbing Babar during the World Cup 2023.
Yes, this happened DURING one of the most important tournaments in world cricket, where the PCB chairman was outright ignoring the national team captain and having back-channel talks with other players.
Apparently Rizwan was also approached but he outright refused Zaka Ashraf’s crooked approaches, while Shaheen was enjoying the lime-light and should have refused to indulge Zaka. Shaheen was actually the third choice, after Rizwan and Shadab refused to go against Babar.
What goes around comes around, Babar resigned while Shaheen has been forcefully removed.
Shaheen did this during the World Cup, doesn’t matter if it’s one series or two series.Shaheen went behind Babar’s back after 1 series?
What a ridiculous comparison of what Babar did in return
Shaheen had the opportunity to do it a lot earlier, when Sethi wanted him to lead instead of Shadab. Shaheen didn’t go ahead with it at the time.Shaheen did this during the World Cup, doesn’t matter if it’s one series or two series.
The correct way should have been to have these talks after the World Cup, not during the tournament where the side was already under tremendous pressure.
Shaheen himself was rubbish throughout with the new ball, aswell as down on pace and overall fitness.
How did Sachin have same story? Sachin removed from captaincy played under Azhar Ganguly Dravid Dhoni
Doesn’t give him the right to do this DURING a World Cup, where he was also under-performing along with the rest of the team.Shaheen had the opportunity to do it a lot earlier, when Sethi wanted him to lead instead of Shadab. Shaheen didn’t go ahead with it at the time.
When it became absolutely clear that the team isn’t going any further under Babar’s leadership, he was rightly removed and Shaheen was rightly appointed.
1 series! 1 series and you cry about backstabbing! 4 years Shaheen kept Babar in the job bending his back for him!
@Savak you love quoting journalists and ex-cricketers so much, I’m surprised you missed out Rashid Latif stating clearly how Shaheen started all of this by back-stabbing Babar during the World Cup 2023.
Yes, this happened DURING one of the most important tournaments in world cricket, where the PCB chairman was outright ignoring the national team captain and having back-channel talks with other players.
Apparently Rizwan was also approached but he outright refused Zaka Ashraf’s crooked approaches, while Shaheen was enjoying the lime-light and should have refused to indulge Zaka. Shaheen was actually the third choice, after Rizwan and Shadab refused to go against Babar.
What goes around comes around, Babar resigned while Shaheen has been forcefully removed.
@Savak you love quoting journalists and ex-cricketers so much, I’m surprised you missed out Rashid Latif stating clearly how Shaheen started all of this by back-stabbing Babar during the World Cup 2023.
Yes, this happened DURING one of the most important tournaments in world cricket, where the PCB chairman was outright ignoring the national team captain and having back-channel talks with other players.
Apparently Rizwan was also approached but he outright refused Zaka Ashraf’s crooked approaches, while Shaheen was enjoying the lime-light and should have refused to indulge Zaka. Shaheen was actually the third choice, after Rizwan and Shadab refused to go against Babar.
What goes around comes around, Babar resigned while Shaheen has been forcefully removed.
Regardless of how much sympathy you have for Shaheen for wanting captaincy so badly in the middle of the World Cup, when he was actually treated as the third choice and the only one willing to listen to Zaka Ashraf, what Shaheen did was also deplorable.I have seen a video of Shaheen pushing Babar during the Afghanistan game in the 2023 ODI WC. Therefore i fully believe that yes, he got greedy and wanted the captaincy.
However Babar had also been in charge for 4 years and his overall record was abysmal. He was rightfully removed as captain. Rashid while acknowledging the conspiracy against Babar in 2023, also stated that the way the PCB has gone about removing Shaheen like this is not good for the team, Shaheen should have been allowed to lead the team till the T-20 WC, the PCB has now laid the seeds for the 90's style dressing room environment where the players had grudges, resentment against each other and back stabbed each other at the first available opportunity.
The PCB should have been more tactful and should have sat both Shaheen, Babar down and offered Shaheen a more respectful, face saving way to step down. Right now based on the reports i am hearing, the PCB did not once consult Shaheen at all during this whole saga and neither did Mohsin Naqvi offer any respect to Shaheen, he basically harped, its our decision, take it or leave it.
Things keep changing in Pakistan Cricket, tomorrow Mohsin Naqvi will not be there and Babar is not going to remain captain forever and Shaheen will get his opportunity again. Do you think he will ever forget this episode and not seek revenge?
Regardless of how much sympathy you have for Shaheen for wanting captaincy so badly in the middle of the World Cup, when he was actually treated as the third choice and the only one willing to listen to Zaka Ashraf, what Shaheen did was also deplorable.
As I said in my initial post, what goes around comes around. Shaheen had no right to be so eager anyway, what with his form completely falling away during the World Cup.
Shahid Afridi coming out of the closet now with his views and striking when the iron is hot. He revealed to Samaa that he would have had deeper respect for Babar Azam if he had refused the captaincy and announced his support for Shaheen's leadership for this WC.
SIGH reasons like this is why the country is what it is.The lawyer stated that the players put financial gain over country's honour and wasted a lot of money by their trip to USA and West Indies.
Pakistan Cricket Team have dealt another blow as a lawyer from Pakistan has filed a case against the national team following their disappointing run in the ongoing T20 World Cup 2024.
The lawyer, who hails from Gujranwala city in Pakistan, was gutted after his side lost two straight games against the USA and India which brought immense embarrassment for the country.
Arab News reported that the lawyer was disappointed by the performance of Babar Azam and Co, which is why he filed a treason petition against the national cricket team. Notably, one of the meanings of 'Treason Petition' is a betrayal of trust by someone.
The lawyer stated that the players put financial gain over country's honour and wasted a lot of money by their trip to USA and West Indies.
“The petitioner expressed deep concern over the disappointing performance of the national cricket team, calling it a waste of money and a betrayal of the nation’s trust. The petition accuses the team of putting at stake millions of rupees and the integrity of the nation, alleging that the players and team management prioritized financial gain over the country’s honour, ” stated Samaa TV.
“Furthermore, the petition highlights the harm caused to the sentiments of the people during matches against America and India, citing these performances as particularly egregious. "
The lawyer also called for a ban on the team until a thorough inquiry is conducted by the interior secretary and a comprehensive report is completed.
Pakistan won their third game against Canada comfortably, but now they have to depend on other teams' results to qualify for the super 8. However, things are not looking good for Men in Green, as rain threat looms over their upcoming tie against Ireland and a washout would see them bow out of the tournament.
Talking about the case, the court has asked for a report from the police on the registration of the case and directed them to file it by June 21.
Court Case Against Babar Azam and Co.? PAK Lawyer Sues PAK Team With 'Treason Charges'
Arab News reported that the lawyer was disappointed by the performance of Babar Azam and Co, which is why he filed a treason petition against the national cricket team. Notably, one of the meanings of 'treason petition' is a betrayal of trust.cricket.one
dont divert .. its intention is to find the fixers in the team .. case is on bobby ..not on pcb .. we need educated ppl like that to preserve the cricket from fixers.SIGH reasons like this is why the country is what it is.
Please tell me it’s satire. How can anyone , more so a lawyer who should be an educated top official of the society he/she resides in, decide to seriously take the PCB to court over this.
Don’t get me wrong Babar azam and the PCB were absolute clowns and pathetic in the tournament , but to claim treason . You know when do we wake up and realise this current team just isn’t that good enough.
I mean if he follow up with the law suit where does it stop? You can sue 99% of politicians for treason
“I will make this request to the fans on social media, not to use any inappropriate language against Babar Azam.
people destroyed him ..called him.kingWhat hurt babar is him accepting the mantra of King.
He should have remained an introvert batter for Pakistan who played odi and test at no 3 for them.
Babar was always an accumulator bat for Pakistan and he should have remained that amd focused on his fitness and batting.
However greed destroyed him as well as being a coward in general. Their was no need to pretend to be a t20 opener, or become a captain when he knew full well he wouldn't be am effective leader or keep his prejudice dosti yaari aside, and he knew full well that he lacks lofted strokes and isn't willing to be anything more then an achorer in his career.
Tbf bro, he was always an accumulator. Mickey Arthur promoted him from 6 to 3 cause he saw a stable odi batter who could hold the line and bat through the innings.people destroyed him ..called him.king
many gifted him audi sports cars, bunglows ..he got attracted to money ..from there downfall started ..instead of focussing on how to make runs against big teams ..