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Hashim Amla - the modern day genius

Give him a dead rubber or a bilateral and see him shine. He's the anti Kohli. Performs very well when the chips are up!!
 
What I learned today:

Amla is a better batsman than Gavaskar and Miandad.
 
Amla is better than Gavaskar?? Few posters embarrasing themselves. Surely they have never seen Gavaskar bat.

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Buffet said:
Well, there used to be a time when many PPers used to vastly overrate Amla in limited overs. He was never even close to the best batsman in his entire career, but pushing him in that league is getting reactions in threads like this.

Amla is not AB or Kohli, but he is still a very good limited over batsman. Sure, he goes mostly missing in big games in global tournaments, but he doesn't deserve this kind of bashing.

It's fault of some PPers to be honest.
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I think overrating him at that time was understandable because Amla didn't have so many worldcup failures under his belt plus people gave him benefit out of doubt. It was hard to understand why he couldn't replicate his bilateral performances in Worldcups. But I guess some people doesn't have in them to perform at bigger stages and he is not alone. We have quite a few nowadays which includes Williamson as well. He is going down the and lane as well and probably is worse. Kohli hasn't shown his skills in ODI Worldcups as well as of yet.

Said above this Amla bashing is very uncalled for. He was not the most talented batsman and had many technical flaws but he has achieved so much thus far especially in test cricket with great work ethics and dedication. This is something worth praising not bashing. And on the top of that he has been a very noncontroversial figure. I as a cricket lover have great admiration for him.
 
Anfield said:
I think overrating him at that time was understandable because Amla didn't have so many worldcup failures under his belt plus people gave him benefit out of doubt. It was hard to understand why he couldn't replicate his bilateral performances in Worldcups. But I guess some people doesn't have in them to perform at bigger stages and he is not alone. We have quite a few nowadays which includes Williamson as well. He is going down the and lane as well and probably is worse. Kohli hasn't shown his skills in ODI Worldcups as well as of yet.

Said above this Amla bashing is very uncalled for. He was not the most talented batsman and had many technical flaws but he has achieved so much thus far especially in test cricket with great work ethics and dedication. This is something worth praising not bashing. And on the top of that he has been a very noncontroversial figure. I as a cricket lover have great admiration for him.
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I agree with what you said. I just don't like him getting bashed in this fashion. He has done very well for us in the Test format in pressure games. Like you said, not everyone can step up in WC games. So it's fine if he is not doing it. I can understand some bashing if he was a poor player, but he worked extremely hard after initial phase to score runs.
 
Mamoon said:
Great pressure player. In a big match, you can always be sure that he will come good, big occasions bring the best out of him.

For me, his 123 vs Australia in the 2011 World Cup and the 117 vs NZ in the 2015 World Cup semifinal stand out as his best pressure innings, but it's a difficult choice because he has played so many great innings across the World Cups, World T20s and Champions Trophies.

His record against non-associate teams in ICC tournaments says everything that needs to be said about this legendary batsman.

No batsman can absorb pressure like he does. Nerves of steel indeed.
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:))) Cut the sarcasm already, you're too good.
 
Amla is not that legendary in tests either.Just a South African great.
In a tougher era, Ponting, SRT,Dravid and Kallis used to avg 58-59 after 100 tests.Amla will end with an avg of 47-49 in tests.In LOIs he is inferior to Gambhir and Anwar so all in all he is just a good player.Overall I rate him slightly below Dean Jones.
 
Amla's popularity on the wane looks like.... Khwaja is here folks.... Wonderful momentum given the other day in a pressure game
 
Amla is a good batsmen.

Shade below Root and Kohli in ODI cricket.

Very good test batsmen, who will probably end up ATG test bat.

Is usually bashed because supporters think he is MUCH MORE than he actually is.

That's the exact reason, Afridi is bashed.
 
Titan of Technique said:
Amla is not that legendary in tests either.Just a South African great.
In a tougher era, Ponting, SRT,Dravid and Kallis used to avg 58-59 after 100 tests.Amla will end with an avg of 47-49 in tests.In LOIs he is inferior to Gambhir and Anwar so all in all he is just a good player.Overall I rate him slightly below Dean Jones.
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Please tell me you're talking about Saeed Anwar and not.............. Oh God !! :(
 
Titan of Technique said:
Amla is not that legendary in tests either.Just a South African great.
In a tougher era, Ponting, SRT,Dravid and Kallis used to avg 58-59 after 100 tests.Amla will end with an avg of 47-49 in tests.In LOIs he is inferior to Gambhir and Anwar so all in all he is just a good player.Overall I rate him slightly below Dean Jones.
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In what way was the 2000s Era which was the majority of Ponting, Dravid and Kallis career tougher for batsmen? Simply do not agree. This is pure hindsight revisionist history.
 
Amla us overrated in ODIs but phenomenal in tests. Better than AB easily in the longer format.
 
OS_89 said:
Amla us overrated in ODIs but phenomenal in tests. Better than AB easily in the longer format.
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Wouldn't say over-rated given his average of 52 and strike rate of 89. Both Dhoni and Kohli have almost identical stats. But if we have a parameter for impact he would be somewhere below average. Still a good batsman most teams would kill to have.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Amla is a good batsmen.

Shade below Root and Kohli in ODI cricket.

Very good test batsmen, who will probably end up ATG test bat.

Is usually bashed because supporters think he is MUCH MORE than he actually is.

That's the exact reason, Afridi is bashed.
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Shade below Kohli? LOL

Amla is an entire volcano below Kohli.
 
Mamoon said:
Better than any Pakistan batsman and inferior to Tendulkar only? Just when you think you have heard of all.

Miandad over him any day. Also, Inzamam was better in ODIs.

Gavaskar was comfortably better and Kohli will go down as the better batsman as well.

He is perhaps on par with Dravid in Tests.
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At this point, I believe some people are just trolling with all this talk about Amla being the greatest batsman. He is a great test batsman and a decent LOI batsman that's about it.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Amla is a good batsmen.

Shade below Root and Kohli in ODI cricket.

Very good test batsmen, who will probably end up ATG test bat.

Is usually bashed because supporters think he is MUCH MORE than he actually is.

That's the exact reason, Afridi is bashed.
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Root himself is a galaxy behind Kohli in odis..... And Amla is even below that. Strike rates and averages aren't everything, Amla and Root can only dream of playing the kind of innings Kohli has played numerous times in odis.
 
Mamoon said:
Great pressure player. In a big match, you can always be sure that he will come good, big occasions bring the best out of him.

For me, his 123 vs Australia in the 2011 World Cup and the 117 vs NZ in the 2015 World Cup semifinal stand out as his best pressure innings, but it's a difficult choice because he has played so many great innings across the World Cups, World T20s and Champions Trophies.

His record against non-associate teams in ICC tournaments says everything that needs to be said about this legendary batsman.

No batsman can absorb pressure like he does. Nerves of steel indeed.
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Today's innings was right up there as well. Yet another reminder of his ability to absorb pressure like no one else can.
 
Mamoon said:
Today's innings was right up there as well. Yet another reminder of his ability to absorb pressure like no one else can.
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You know the danger with using irony is that years,or even weeks, from now some unsuspecting forum lad or laddess may mine your quotes as the primary evidence to prove Amla's ODI pre-eminence......
 
After an outstanding Champions Trophy where he once again proved his mettle in tournaments, the Mighty Hash has continued his fine form in ODIs and has produced another breathtaking performance under great pressure.

Surely he has few equals when it comes clutch performances.

Where would you people rank today's knock among the best ODI knocks in history? I think it ranks right up there with his 117 vs NZ in the 2015 World Cup semifinal and his 135* vs India in the CT, which was effectively a quarter-final for SA.
 
His fantastic performances in ICC tournaments continue.

No batsman has dominated the World Cup, the Champions Trophy and the WT20 like Amla.
 
Mamoon said:
His fantastic performances in ICC tournaments continue.

No batsman has dominated the World Cup, the Champions Trophy and the WT20 like Amla.
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One particular poster won’t like your post :))
 
Whenever [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] starts disliking any batsmen, his decline starts.

Amla's decline started since 2014 while de Villiers decline started since 2016.
 
Lol so nice to see funny side of great [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] , you were absolutely spot on
I read all your post in this thread today and i want to laugh more and more at Mighty hash
 
Never seen such a high profile batsman fail so miserably in all his ICC tournaments. Inzi was pretty mediocre in WCs himself but had a few brilliant knocks including arguably the greatest blitzkrieg in the 1992 SF. Amla meanwhile has no such memorable innings in important matches. He has been South Africa's weakest link in every big tournament, he can't bowl, not an exceptional fielder as well. Lucky to be given such a long run in the ODI/T20 teams.
 
Mentally weak player thats it. He has the skills, but he doesnt have a strong mind to overcome pressure.

Been watching him for a long time. Everytime the pressure is on he fails to deliver.
If this guy pulled through just once for SA i think they wouldve won atleast one WC or CT.

AbD gets all the hate for the failures. While amla is usually ignored
 
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Often compared with Yousuf, given their roles and style of play. Yousuf the much better player for me.
 
Amla has scored only 300 in 12 inns vs non minnows @25. Perhaps the worst world cup stats for such a
high profile batsman.Even feels sad for him because he is such a well mannered cricekter
 
He is similar to Ozil, a highly rated player yet can easily be nullified by quality teams. He is like a one-trick pony player...
 
Overrated in ODIs. Had once good patch in tests. But struggled a lot at the start of his test career and had a massive decline since 2015.

Never been an ATG.
 
The legend grows.

Yet another stellar innings under pressure. Rarely has a batsman displayed such class and domination to put his side in the driving seat in a must-win match.
 
Mamoon said:
The legend grows.

Yet another stellar innings under pressure. Rarely has a batsman displayed such class and domination to put his side in the driving seat in a must-win match.
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55 off 83 balls @ SR of 66.26

Not that bad :D
 
The fact South Africa stuck with him is telling how low the talent stocks are
 
Another big match, another pressure situation, another masterclass for the ages.
 
This guy is the worst pressure batsman I’ve seen in ODI cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
Great pressure player. In a big match, you can always be sure that he will come good, big occasions bring the best out of him.

For me, his 123 vs Australia in the 2011 World Cup and the 117 vs NZ in the 2015 World Cup semifinal stand out as his best pressure innings, but it's a difficult choice because he has played so many great innings across the World Cups, World T20s and Champions Trophies.

His record against non-associate teams in ICC tournaments says everything that needs to be said about this legendary batsman.

No batsman can absorb pressure like he does. Nerves of steel indeed.
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Some new additions in this World Cup as well.
 
He’s just embarrassing himself out there, should have retired from all formats at least an year ago.
 
I feel for RSA because getting rid off him early on now is just a formality for opposition teams.

They always find themselves in early trouble wth Amla opening.

Opening is most crucial for any team. Most wins or losses could be directly linked to how healthy your top 3 are
 
He was prolific at his prime and even then he was nowhere near as complete a player as Williamson or Smith, much alone Kohli.
 
bujhee kom said:
Your reason for hating him is not rooted in cricket. Sad.
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The reason he has received so much appreciation over the years from some posters here wasn’t related to his cricket either. He is a complete typical South African chocker.
 
Hitman said:
The reason he has received so much appreciation over the years from some posters here wasn’t related to his cricket either. He is a complete typical South African chocker.
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Both excess hype and hatred rooted outside of cricket are silly. He is a bottler. That is true. I never hyped him.
 
Mamoon hates amla bcoz bilal7 likes him. :yk.
He may not be a pressure player but stil a better odi batsman than any pakistani player ever except abbas.
 
His failure during this world cup is because of his age, not because he choked. He's been on the decline since 2015-16 and even though he's been good enough to be a regular in this South African side, his days of being an elite batsman are over. Not sure what the point is in reviving a thread that was made when Amla was on the top and the best batsman in the world across formats. No one stays on the top forever and unless you retire on top - which is usually a selfish decision - a bunch of nobodies who've made their names by being your haters will have a field-day sooner or later.

From 2010-2015, he bossed world cricket on all pitches, against all oppositions and established himself as one of the great batsmen, while also playing the game in the best of spirits. That is what most of the cricketing world will remember him for and he's broken enough world records and reached enough milestones to ensure that his name keeps getting mentioned long after his retirement.
 
Amla was never the best batsmen across formats.. wb [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] hope all is well!
 
Amla should not have been picked, South Africans were better of selecting a rookie. His selection just tells you the paucity of talent in South Africa
 
Bilal7 said:
His failure during this world cup is because of his age, not because he choked. He's been on the decline since 2015-16 and even though he's been good enough to be a regular in this South African side, his days of being an elite batsman are over. Not sure what the point is in reviving a thread that was made when Amla was on the top and the best batsman in the world across formats. No one stays on the top forever and unless you retire on top - which is usually a selfish decision - a bunch of nobodies who've made their names by being your haters will have a field-day sooner or later.

From 2010-2015, he bossed world cricket on all pitches, against all oppositions and established himself as one of the great batsmen, while also playing the game in the best of spirits. That is what most of the cricketing world will remember him for and he's broken enough world records and reached enough milestones to ensure that his name keeps getting mentioned long after his retirement.
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True,his peak was'nt long enough but he had no weakness,he mastered spin,swing,bounce etc etc.
Last three years can't be ignored he will retire on par with batsmen like INZI,Sehwag,kevin pietersen,hayden.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
True,his peak was'nt long enough but he had no weakness,he mastered spin,swing,bounce etc etc.
Last three years can't be ignored he will retire on par with batsmen like INZI,Sehwag,kevin pietersen,hayden.
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KP and Hayden are at a higher level to the other guys including Amla
 
Slog said:
KP and Hayden are at a higher level to the other guys including Amla
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They are comparable, I think if you make levels granular then yes but I'd you only make 3 levels then these will be on same level albeit Haydos and KP being the best of them.
 
Slog said:
KP and Hayden are at a higher level to the other guys including Amla
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KP and Hayden were nowhere near the level of Amla in test cricket , the real format for batsmen to show what they are made of .

On topic , was sad to see the great man walk off at Lords disappointed . Hope he retires and enjoys his life after a great career .,
 
Goes down as a very good batsman rather than an all-time great.
 
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