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Who is the better test batsman??

Rating based on cricketing abilities putting all other antics aside
 
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@mods,

Can you add public poll please ?
 
Amla is comfortably a better test batsman. After Tendulkar, he is the only player who performed in all types of conditions.
 
Hashim Amla almost in every aspect of cricketing abilities save domination.
 
Amla quite easily. Bowl a left arm spinner to KP and it won't be long before he loses the plot.
 
Amla..But its close.

KP is still a superior test batsmen to Cook, Clarke and ABD..
 
KP was inconsistent.

He was bit of a flawed genius.

Amla for me and is well ahead.
 
KP. Inconsistent, sure, but he played ATG bowlers and thrived against them. Amla, a great player but not an ATG for me.
 
Hashim Amla is easily the superior batsman in tests and ODIs. No contest really.

Statsman said:
Curious to know in which conditions KP failed.
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The UAE is definitely one place I remember.

Ab Fan said:
Amla..But its close.

KP is still a superior test batsmen to Cook, Clarke and ABD..
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It's not close. KP might be better than those guys but that doesn't really say anything.
 
KP
Amla had a smallish peak from 2010 till 2013 where he was real dominant and won matches for Saffers. but Kp although didn't have a big peak as Amla's but he surely won England more games than Amla did.
In Odi's its close between the two cause of Kp's inconsistent form for a larger part but then again Amla's innings lack impact. Kp for me
 
I'll take KP, knowing full well that Amla has much better stats.

But KP made me tune in to watching him play. I used to love catching his innings. He made English batting cool for the first time in a century.
 
Amla. Though my opinion is influenced by KP's record against Pakistan :asif
 
Amla and Steyn are the biggest contributers to South Africa's away record. Amla played some insane innings all around the world from 2010-2015. Anyone who says Amla lacked impact in Tests is pretty clueless about South African cricket
 
KP is the best batsman of his generation. No one dominated great bowlers on not so easy tracks like he did. Sûre he failed against some Pakistani bowlers (Asif and that UAE tour).

Not even an asian batsman has played such great innings in asia in recent years like the one on Sri Lanla vs Herath and that innings in Mumbai.

He dominated McGrath, warne, Murli and Steyn like no other did in the last 10 years.

Amla is a great test batsman too but KP is in the top 5 since the 90´s.
 
KP was a flawed genius.

At his peak, he was EASILY better than Amla.

Could take on ATG bowlers and dismantle them which even certified ATGs Kallis, Dravid and Sanga do not have claim of doing.

In his zone, he was a Tendu, Lara, Ponting league batsman.

However overall, Amla was more well rounded, effective and impactful. I value effectiveness a lot and in that criteria, Amla really scores over KP. He is the better test bat overall.

If KP was consistent, he was a sure shot top tier ATG. Such was his brilliance in tests.
 
Both are not my cup (or cups) of tea. However, if I had to pick one, I would go for Pietersen in all formats.
 
Pietersen if he performed a bit more consistently would leapfrog batsmen like Kallis, Waugh or Dravid to the league of Punter and co (as stated above) as a modern day ATG. But in tests Amla is a completely different beast compared to ODIs...while not as devasting as KP, he was very consistent and also still pretty impacting.

Amla takes this in tests, KP in LOIs therefore I'd rate them equal.
 
Very close but I'd just about go for Amla.

However, if Pietersen still played and was a part of the team 2012 onwards, I'd go as far to say that he'd be better than Amla at the moment.
 
Square Drive said:
Very close but I'd just about go for Amla.

However, if Pietersen still played and was a part of the team 2012 onwards, I'd go as far to say that he'd be better than Amla at the moment.
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KP was on his last legs when he got ousted. I highly doubt he would have added anything meaningful to his resume had he still continued playing.
 
Keeping in mind the quality of bowling attacks faced by the two.. Pitersen has faced far more difficult Australian bowling unit than Amla ever did..

In fact if memory serves me right, Amla hasn't played a single game against Mcgrath/ Warne. And despite that the difference btw their average is minimal with KP having a superior SR
 
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Hasan123 said:
Lol what is your issue with KP?
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Saffer_XIII said:
He's Seth African.
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The_Odd_One said:
And he is liked by most of the PP posters.
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Don't have any issues with South African players. I had great admiration for players like Kirsten, Gibbs, Smith, Kallis (Tests) and admire players like de Kock, Rabada, Miller, Elgar and Faf now, the latter two for their character mainly. However yes, I don't have time for softies like Amla and de Villiers.

Pietersen was a genius on his day, but I am not a fan of his attitude. Doesn't seem like a person who can be compatible in a disciplined environment and getting booted out of the England setup was his own fault.
 
Hashim Amla by far - the only format that KP may have an edge is T20's but Amla is far ahead in Tests and ODI's.
 
For whatever reason though, KP's record against Pakistan is surprisingly bad.. Average of 30 after 25 innings is a glaring flow in the resume
 
KP at his best was the best batsman of his generation and easily a top tier batsman across generations.. However for all his talent he just didn’t deliver as was his potential..
He was my favourite player for a while so I would chose him over Amla..
 
When it comes to performance against the best bowling attacks and in the toughest batting conditions, among the ones I watched play:-

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Kevin Pietersen
AB de Villiers

Dont care about the rest.
 
Pietersen was more impactful than his stats suggest, while Amla had impact below his. It's close though as Amla (despite his precipitous decline in the past 3 years), played some wonderful innings. However, Pietersen had some ATG innings: his 158 against Australia, 192 in Mumbai and 227 in Australia come to mind.
 
Pietersen, and I would have said that a couple of years ago before Amla became a shell of a cricketer that he once was.
 
Ab Fan said:
When it comes to performance against the best bowling attacks and in the toughest batting conditions, among the ones I watched play:-

Sachin Tendulkar
Brian Lara
Ricky Ponting
Kevin Pietersen
AB de Villiers

Dont care about the rest.
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Ponting? Even with his poor record in India? I would put Laxman in that list before I put Ponting's name in this list.
 
We've had a lot of great answers for both sides but i cant help think that both of them may well have played in the same team. Add KP to that great South African team and we may well have had them sitting alongside the ATG West Indies and Australian sides.

A batting line up of Smith, Amla, Kallis, KP and AB sounds absolutely insane! With a great bowling side to back them, not many teams would have outscored them over two innings.
 
the_outsider said:
Ponting? Even with his poor record in India? I would put Laxman in that list before I put Ponting's name in this list.
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Ponting, to his credit, has done brilliantly against Murali in Sri Lanka and against SA, Pak and WI bowlers of his era. His record in India has more to do with his massive struggles against Harbhajan in India.
 
Amla in test. I am really surprised that people are taking KP in test too. Amlain was really great in test apart from last few years. He scored runs everywhere and against everyone.
In Odi KP, will never forget his 3 100 in 2005 Odi series against South Africa and later 66 ball 91 or 81 against Australia. Took McGrath and other Australian bowler to cleaner. In young days KP was such a great Odi batsman
 
Mute Witness said:
We've had a lot of great answers for both sides but i cant help think that both of them may well have played in the same team. Add KP to that great South African team and we may well have had them sitting alongside the ATG West Indies and Australian sides.

A batting line up of Smith, Amla, Kallis, KP and AB sounds absolutely insane! With a great bowling side to back them, not many teams would have outscored them over two innings.
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I feel more than KP, if that great South African team, had one quality spinner like Swann, then those series drawn in India and Pakistan(UAE) would have translated to series wins in those country for them. They had Steyn who could do the damage but he alone is never enough to go on and win series in Asia against a top team.

In Australia and England, luckily, Steyn was supported by Philander and Morkel who were good for those conditions, which resulted into series wins for them in those countries.
 
KP over Amla - and KP also over many other players (in my opinion).

More of a true matchwinning player than most.
 
Too many people can't seem to look beyond statistics, which is a pretty uninspiring way to view sport in general.
 
KP along with Michael Clarke was the most overrated player of his generation. Amla clearly. KP vs Ross Taylor or Alistair Cook is a better comparison.
 
AB
KP
Clarke
Amla
Cook

That would be the correct order for me.
 
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