"He is one-eyed while your Lord is not one-eyed"

[sweep_shot]

Constantinople was indeed conquered by muslims. All of the conquering forces were muslims. Saying this conquest was not the one mentioned in the hadith is simply an attempt to safeguard the hadith's validity.

Why are you assuming it can't fall again and be conquered again?

I am sorry but you need to read those hadiths to understand the predicted chronology. You seem to be writing from your own opinions.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

There's also no mention of 5-salah in Quran. Does that mean we should abandon salah?

You can believe in fringe theories. I stick to positions of mainstream Sunni scholars.

5 salah dosent depend on a single hadith narrated by a single person. Salah is a living tradition passed on from generation to generation through practice(Amal e tawatur). In fact salah can not be performed just by following hadith books as not a single hadith exists that explains and details salah completely.

You are obviously entitled to follow the mainstream view but others also are entitled to question these mainstream views.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Why are you assuming it can't fall again and be conquered again?

I am sorry but you need to read those hadiths to understand the predicted chronology. You seem to be writing from your own opinions.

It can fall again but for that,
1. Turkiye as a nation has to fall.
2. It has to be conquered by a non-muslim nation.
3. The world will have to revert back to middle ages as the war of conquering Constantinople will be fought with vows & arrows.

 

[sweep_shot]

5 salah dosent depend on a single hadith narrated by a single person. Salah is a living tradition passed on from generation to generation through practice(Amal e tawatur). In fact salah can not be performed just by following hadith books as not a single hadith exists that explains and details salah completely.

You are obviously entitled to follow the mainstream view but others also are entitled to question these mainstream views.

If you reject the mainstream positions, you are not part of the majority. You are then from a minority sect.

It can fall again but for that,
1. Turkiye as a nation has to fall.
2. It has to be conquered by a non-muslim nation.
3. The world will have to revert back to middle ages as the war of conquering Constantinople will be fought with vows & arrows.

Again, why are you assuming all of these can't happen? You don't know the future.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

According to a hadith of Imam Muslim graded authentic, Both Prophet Isa & Dajjal will appear right after the muslim conquest of Constantinople. Constantinople was conquered by the muslims more than 500 years ago and we are yet to see the return of any one of them.

As per the verses of the Quran, the religion(deen) was completed during the time of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). So it is clear that there remains no major reason for a return of another Prophet.

2nd coming of Jesus though has no mention in the Quran, is stated in many hadiths. Yet studying those hadiths, one can find that most of those hadiths were narrated by Abu Huraira, a person very much influenced by Kaab Al ahbar, the borrower of jewish tradition to Islam(Israyeliat).

Jesus is predicted to kill the pigs, destroy the cross and abolish Jizya. Abolishing Jizya means non-muslims including the people of the book will be given a choice either to convert to Islam or to get killed, which will clearly violate the Quranic law of religious freedom.

At the end of the day, Return of Jesus and the emergence of Mahdi & Dajjal are topics that should not concern general muslims. In
my view, submiting to the will of God by living a true peaceful life and contributing to the growth of human society & civilizations are the ultimate purposes of a human being.

Borrowing of Jewish tradition to Islam doesn't make sense as there isn't any concept of second coming in Judaism. Judaism actually don't believe Jesus (Pbuh) to be a true prophet either. Some sects of Jews believe Muhammad SAW to be a true prophet but none of them consider Jesus to be one.

There are some things that shouldn't be questioned. I am not a scholar and may not be correct but I think one qom was punished for asking too many questions rather than following what they were told by their prophet.

Regarding Jizya, it's stated in various ahadith that the human population would be pretty low by the time of Dajjal and Mahdi. If I am not wrong, it was something like 1 person out of 100 will survive before the forecoming of Dajjal due to the wars preceding it and it will be incredibly tough times. Most of the followers of Dajjal will be killed and the remaining people will accept Jesus to be the true Prophet and come under one religion till Yajuj and Majuj would be unleashed.

I have always interpreted destroying the cross as Jesus telling the people he was neither crucified nor is he a son of god.

Regarding your last para, if a person is interested in the return of Jesus and the emergence of Mahdi and Dajjal (eschatology), it's upto them as to what interests them. Just like I, You or anyone else can't tell anyone else to not take interests in any subject.

Your last line is what you find peace in and that's good but please don't point fingers at the Prophets and Sahaba. Saying that a certain Sahabi meddled the Prophet's SAW message isn't really a very nice thing when we have been told about respecting them. The Prophets weren't prone to error but Sahaba certainly were. This doesn't mean to question everything they did or accuse them to bringing beliefs of Judaism or Christianity into Islam.

 

[Champ_Pal]

There's also no mention of 5-salah in Quran. Does that mean we should abandon salah?

You can believe in fringe theories. I stick to positions of mainstream Sunni scholars.

Offering prayers 5 times a day was pre-islamic ritual among Arabs.

You see, most of the Islamic traditions come from Hadith written by people who came 200 or 250 years after Islam started. I firmly believe it is all made up as Abbasids wanted to control the thousands of square kilometers of land they conquered.

Just think about it, why didn't the Rashiduns (Early Caliphs) and Umayyads did not bother to write the Hadith and the story of life of Prophet PBUH? They are not stupid or ignorant or illiterate.

 

[sweep_shot]

Offering prayers 5 times a day was pre-islamic ritual among Arabs.

I don't want to discuss this with someone who is not a Muslim.

5-Salah started after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) went for night journey. He received the instruction there.

 

[sweep_shot]

On this thread, it is becoming difficult to discuss Dajjal (the actual topic) because non-Muslims and those with minority views are constantly hijacking it.

Dajjal and 2nd coming of Jesus (PBUH) are mainstream positions in Islam. These are accepted by mainstream Sunni scholars worldwide.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I don't want to discuss this with someone who is not a Muslim.

5-Salah started after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) went for night journey. He received the instruction there.

It was a made up story bro. Can a human bargain with God Almighty?

If God says 500 prayers a day, it should be done. You cannot say but or why to the Almighty. You are following the stories by Hadith writers who are from central Asia which is thousands of miles away from Mecca. Not even Arabs.

 

[Champ_Pal]

On this thread, it is becoming difficult to discuss Dajjal (the actual topic) because non-Muslims and those with minority views are constantly hijacking it.

Dajjal and 2nd coming of Jesus (PBUH) are mainstream positions in Islam. These are accepted by mainstream Sunni scholars worldwide.

So you believe Jesus will come and kill pigs and Muslims will kill all the Jews?

 

[sweep_shot]

So you believe Jesus will come and kill pigs and Muslims will kill all the Jews?

We don't know how the future will be like.

It could be that there would be a hostile Jewish army or something. It is in future. We don't know.

Like I said, you have Hindu background; you are not a Muslim. So, you are probably not aware of all the mainstream positions. You probably read a bit on Google and just give your own opinion.

I would love to discuss these with practicing Muslims who are in sync with mainstream Islamic views.

 

[sweep_shot]

It was a made up story bro. Can a human bargain with God Almighty?

If God says 500 prayers a day, it should be done. You cannot say but or why to the Almighty. You are following the stories by Hadith writers who are from central Asia which is thousands of miles away from Mecca. Not even Arabs.

That's not for you to decide what is made up and what is not.

You have Hindu background. Not sure why you are writing all these.

Leave Muslim scriptures to Muslims.

 

[Champ_Pal]

That's not for you to decide what is made up and what is not.

You have Hindu background. Not sure why you are writing all these.

Leave Muslim scriptures to Muslims.

This is like saying, since you are a Pakistani or Bangladeshi, you cannot comment about Biden or Trump or Modi.

Why didn't the first 5 caliphs or Umayyads did not bother to write Hadiths? What were the masses of Muslims following for the first 250 years of Islamic origins? What were the Clerics teaching if there were no Hadiths?

 

[sweep_shot]

Let's keep things simple.

We have Quran. This is the most important book. After that, we have Hadiths. Some Hadiths are fabricated/weak but there are also some Hadiths that are considered as authentic.

As mainstream practicing Muslims, we are supposed to believe whatever is in Quran and authentic hadiths. We should be in sync with mainstream Islamic positions (determined by mainstream scholars from past and present).

 

[Champ_Pal]

Let's keep things simple.

We have Quran. This is the most important book. After that, we have Hadiths. Some Hadiths are fabricated/weak but there are also some Hadiths that are considered as authentic.

As mainstream practicing Muslims, we are supposed to believe whatever is in Quran and authentic hadiths. We should be in sync with mainstream Islamic positions (determined by mainstream scholars from past and present).

Do you seriously believe that when Jesus comes back, he is going to kill the Pigs and Muslims will kill all the Jews?

 

[SalimBhai]

Do you seriously believe that when Jesus comes back, he is going to kill the Pigs and Muslims will kill all the Jews?

Why is Jesus suppose to kill the pigs?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Why is Jesus suppose to kill the pigs?

Because that is what the Hadith says.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

This is like saying, since you are a Pakistani or Bangladeshi, you cannot comment about Biden or Trump or Modi.

Why didn't the first 5 caliphs or Umayyads did not bother to write Hadiths? What were the masses of Muslims following for the first 250 years of Islamic origins? What were the Clerics teaching if there were no Hadiths?

Religion is a much different and sensitive topic than politicians. You are welcome to talk about any politician whether Indian, Pakistani, American or Maltese but kindly leave our religion to us. I'd love to discuss cricket or any other topic with you but religion is a different thing altogether. Everyone is allowed to practice their own beliefs. There is no Islamic scholar on PP, if you want to discuss it or challenge it even, I'd suggest there are a lot of scholars who cater to it. Because we aren't experts with enough knowledge ourselves, answering them to someone who is not a follower of our religion is difficult and would be defaming the religion on our parts. I think [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] would agree as well.

I hope no one from other faith questions about your religion here either.

I hope no one from Islam on PP challenges or question other religions like Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism here as well.

This thread has been about Dajjal and other than sweep shot and [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION], no one adds anything about it and has become difficult for the few of us to discuss it. There are a few serial attention seekers on PP who like to hijack every thread who I don't bother to reply or consider worth mentioning.

I hope I wasn't being rude.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Religion is a much different and sensitive topic than politicians. You are welcome to talk about any politician whether Indian, Pakistani, American or Maltese but kindly leave our religion to us. I'd love to discuss cricket or any other topic with you but religion is a different thing altogether. Everyone is allowed to practice their own beliefs. There is no Islamic scholar on PP, if you want to discuss it or challenge it even, I'd suggest there are a lot of scholars who cater to it. Because we aren't experts with enough knowledge ourselves, answering them to someone who is not a follower of our religion is difficult and would be defaming the religion on our parts. I think [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] would agree as well.

I hope no one from other faith questions about your religion here either.

I hope no one from Islam on PP challenges or question other religions like Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism here as well.

This thread has been about Dajjal and other than sweep shot and [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION], no one adds anything about it and has become difficult for the few of us to discuss it. There are a few serial attention seekers on PP who like to hijack every thread who I don't bother to reply or consider worth mentioning.

I hope I wasn't being rude.

I support people who follow religion. It offers moral support when science cannot fill the void. Religion is important to our society. However, blind following of it needs to be stopped. We are not human if we do not question the questionable parts of religion.

I feel in almost all religions, there is stuff which is a complete behurmati of our supreme creator. A clear indication that most of the religion is human invention.

I question the same about Hinduism too. Too much blind faith has crept into it and questioning them is either scoffed off or these days violence is used to silence the critics.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Borrowing of Jewish tradition to Islam doesn't make sense as there isn't any concept of second coming in Judaism. Judaism actually don't believe Jesus (Pbuh) to be a true prophet either. Some sects of Jews believe Muhammad SAW to be a true prophet but none of them consider Jesus to be one.

There are some things that shouldn't be questioned. I am not a scholar and may not be correct but I think one qom was punished for asking too many questions rather than following what they were told by their prophet.

Regarding Jizya, it's stated in various ahadith that the human population would be pretty low by the time of Dajjal and Mahdi. If I am not wrong, it was something like 1 person out of 100 will survive before the forecoming of Dajjal due to the wars preceding it and it will be incredibly tough times. Most of the followers of Dajjal will be killed and the remaining people will accept Jesus to be the true Prophet and come under one religion till Yajuj and Majuj would be unleashed.

I have always interpreted destroying the cross as Jesus telling the people he was neither crucified nor is he a son of god.

Regarding your last para, if a person is interested in the return of Jesus and the emergence of Mahdi and Dajjal (eschatology), it's upto them as to what interests them. Just like I, You or anyone else can't tell anyone else to not take interests in any subject.

Your last line is what you find peace in and that's good but please don't point fingers at the Prophets and Sahaba. Saying that a certain Sahabi meddled the Prophet's SAW message isn't really a very nice thing when we have been told about respecting them. The Prophets weren't prone to error but Sahaba certainly were. This doesn't mean to question everything they did or accuse them to bringing beliefs of Judaism or Christianity into Islam.

That a Messiah(Not Jesus) would come & fix every problem is very much a jewish tradition. Both Jewish & christian traditions infiltrated hadith books. It is an accepted fact within the scholarly circle.(You can read about Israyeliat from any website you trust).

Abu Hurairah was a person who was hugely influenced by Kaab Al Ahbar(person who brought Israyeliat) and used to narrate from him. Abu Hurairah also was flogged by Umar for narrating hadiths in the name of the Prophet(PBUH). Im saying things that are clearly found in the history books. It might hurt your feelings and I totally understand but hadiths were a huge political weapon back in those days. People narrated stories in the name of Prophet left right & center for their own self interests.

Im not questioning the Prophet's word but just raising questions about the validity of those who narrated in the name of Prophet. Return of Jesus will be a monumental event of the future yet you wont find any prominent companions narrating the incident. All the hadiths regarding the second coming of Jesus & the emergence of Dajjal are hugely dependent on one man, Abu Hurairah. I find it surprising that these events of such importance were not narrated by any leading companions.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

If you reject the mainstream positions, you are not part of the majority. You are then from a minority sect.

That is a different discussion I think. You will also have to define the mainstream view. Mainstream view of the current age or from the time of the Prophet? If you refer the current age mainstream view, then what makes it valid and authentic? In Quran we find verses condemning the mainstream views of Judaism & Christianity. Mainstream position of the jews is that Jesus was a false Prophet, of the Christians is trinity. As per the Quran, both of these beliefs are wrong.

Again, why are you assuming all of these can't happen? You don't know the future.

Because Constantinople has already been conquered by the muslims, more than 500 years ago.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

That a Messiah(Not Jesus) would come & fix every problem is very much a jewish tradition. Both Jewish & christian traditions infiltrated hadith books. It is an accepted fact within the scholarly circle.(You can read about Israyeliat from any website you trust).

Abu Hurairah was a person who was hugely influenced by Kaab Al Ahbar(person who brought Israyeliat) and used to narrate from him. Abu Hurairah also was flogged by Umar for narrating hadiths in the name of the Prophet(PBUH). Im saying things that are clearly found in the history books. It might hurt your feelings and I totally understand but hadiths were a huge political weapon back in those days. People narrated stories in the name of Prophet left right & center for their own self interests.

Im not questioning the Prophet's word but just raising questions about the validity of those who narrated in the name of Prophet. Return of Jesus will be a monumental event of the future yet you wont find any prominent companions narrating the incident. All the hadiths regarding the second coming of Jesus & the emergence of Dajjal are hugely dependent on one man, Abu Hurairah. I find it surprising that these events of such importance were not narrated by any leading companions.

And ahadith about the sun rising in the west, blowing of the trumpet, day of judgement, that isn't close to anything with Judaism. Jews believe in coming of their King who will rid the world of all the problems and will gather Jews to Israel and build the third temple. Islamic view is quite different to that.

We(according to the scholars I have followed) were told to consider ahadith from Bukhari and Muslim to be true.

Plus how would fabricating ahadith about return of Isa and rise of Dajjal have been a political weapon for Abu Hurraira? Ahadith about Dajjal, return of Isa pbuh and Mahdi was about future. There are signs of the end times that were told, both major and minor. A lot of them haven't happened 1400 years after that. How would it have been politically favorable to people back then?

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I support people who follow religion. It offers moral support when science cannot fill the void. Religion is important to our society. However, blind following of it needs to be stopped. We are not human if we do not question the questionable parts of religion.

I feel in almost all religions, there is stuff which is a complete behurmati of our supreme creator. A clear indication that most of the religion is human invention.

I question the same about Hinduism too. Too much blind faith has crept into it and questioning them is either scoffed off or these days violence is used to silence the critics.

But the thread about Dajjal isn't really a thread about it. I respect whatever you believe in about the supreme creator. We are merely discussing the signs and clues of the antichrist and the signs of end of times that we were told about here.

Like I have some knowledge regarding your question of why Prohphet SAW asked Allah to reduce the prayers. But just for the sake of avoiding any bad name to my religion, I am choosing to not indulge in a discussion about it with you especially on this thread. I am sure if you ask any credible scholar, he would be more than willing to explain your queries better than I would.

If you want to create awareness about stopping the blind following the religions, then maybe create a thread for it. On this thread, we are merely discussing Dajjal and the end of times.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Because Constantinople has already been conquered by the muslims, more than 500 years ago.

Just because it has happened once, doesn't mean it could happen again. For example, Israel could be taken over by Muslims or even Christians and then some time later Jews might regain it. We have no idea how long the time period is before the final hour arrives. It could be 40 or 400 or 4000 years.

Spain was ruled by Muslims and before that I believe it was Christians. Christians now rule it again. Doesn't mean Muslims can never establish rule over it again.

 

[sweep_shot]

Because Constantinople has already been conquered by the muslims, more than 500 years ago.

Why are assuming it can't be conquered again?

Also, you are ignoring the predicted chronology.

 

[sweep_shot]

That a Messiah(Not Jesus) would come & fix every problem is very much a jewish tradition. Both Jewish & christian traditions infiltrated hadith books. It is an accepted fact within the scholarly circle.(You can read about Israyeliat from any website you trust).

Abu Hurairah was a person who was hugely influenced by Kaab Al Ahbar(person who brought Israyeliat) and used to narrate from him. Abu Hurairah also was flogged by Umar for narrating hadiths in the name of the Prophet(PBUH). Im saying things that are clearly found in the history books. It might hurt your feelings and I totally understand but hadiths were a huge political weapon back in those days. People narrated stories in the name of Prophet left right & center for their own self interests.

Im not questioning the Prophet's word but just raising questions about the validity of those who narrated in the name of Prophet. Return of Jesus will be a monumental event of the future yet you wont find any prominent companions narrating the incident. All the hadiths regarding the second coming of Jesus & the emergence of Dajjal are hugely dependent on one man, Abu Hurairah. I find it surprising that these events of such importance were not narrated by any leading companions.

These are in our Hadith books. Forget about Torah and other books.

I would trust mainstream scholars over you any day. You are not qualified to give verdicts like this.

It is not even a matter of debate. These are accepted by mainstream Sunni scholars/preachers worldwide.

 

[sweep_shot]

Just because it has happened once, doesn't mean it could happen again. For example, Israel could be taken over by Muslims or even Christians and then some time later Jews might regain it. We have no idea how long the time period is before the final hour arrives. It could be 40 or 400 or 4000 years.

Spain was ruled by Muslims and before that I believe it was Christians. Christians now rule it again. Doesn't mean Muslims can never establish rule over it again.

He is questioning a sahabah like Abu Huraira (RA). Talk about audacity!

 

[BunnyRabbit]

He is questioning a sahabah like Abu Huraira (RA). Talk about audacity!

Well I told him Sahaba are considered among the best people in Islam after all (obviously)Prophets. I can't and won't argue about that. Like I said, if one has a question about authenticity of Ahadith, it is better to ask the scholars than taking it up with common people us.

 

[sweep_shot]

Well I told him Sahaba are considered among the best people in Islam after all (obviously)Prophets. I can't and won't argue about that. Like I said, if one has a question about authenticity of Ahadith, it is better to ask the scholars than taking it up with common people us.

Correct.

We shouldn't come up with our own verdicts. That's the job of the scholars.

If our scriptures (Quran and Hadiths) say something, we must believe in it. It is the job of the scholars to decide rulings based on Quran and Sunnah.

Here are some information about Abu Huraira (RA):

Abu Hurairah acknowledged by Muslim scholars for his extraordinary photographic memory which allowed him to memorize massive numbers of over 5,000 hadiths which later produced more than 500,000 chain narrations, or Isnad which make Abu Hurairah an exemplar role model for Hadith studies scholars.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Religion is a much different and sensitive topic than politicians. You are welcome to talk about any politician whether Indian, Pakistani, American or Maltese but kindly leave our religion to us. I'd love to discuss cricket or any other topic with you but religion is a different thing altogether. Everyone is allowed to practice their own beliefs. There is no Islamic scholar on PP, if you want to discuss it or challenge it even, I'd suggest there are a lot of scholars who cater to it. Because we aren't experts with enough knowledge ourselves, answering them to someone who is not a follower of our religion is difficult and would be defaming the religion on our parts. I think [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] would agree as well.

I hope no one from other faith questions about your religion here either.

I hope no one from Islam on PP challenges or question other religions like Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism here as well.

This thread has been about Dajjal and other than sweep shot and [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION], no one adds anything about it and has become difficult for the few of us to discuss it. There are a few serial attention seekers on PP who like to hijack every thread who I don't bother to reply or consider worth mentioning.

I hope I wasn't being rude.

Sadly we have a lot of anti-Islam posters on here who love to hijack but ignore those. We can make dua for them so they find a hobby which means something.

What is your view of Imran Hosein and his lectures on this subject?

 

[Justcrazy]

It was a made up story bro. Can a human bargain with God Almighty?

If God says 500 prayers a day, it should be done. You cannot say but or why to the Almighty. You are following the stories by Hadith writers who are from central Asia which is thousands of miles away from Mecca. Not even Arabs.

I have one question , do you believe in Quran to be words of God.

When you answer this question I will answer your question.

 

[Justcrazy]

Correct.

We shouldn't come up with our own verdicts. That's the job of the scholars.

If our scriptures (Quran and Hadiths) say something, we must believe in it. It is the job of the scholars to decide rulings based on Quran and Sunnah.

Here are some information about Abu Huraira (RA):

Everyone other than prophets can be criticized , that is not an issue . This is a propaganda , by people who cannot answer .

I would like to know where did Umar flog Abu Hurraira for narrating hadeeth.

 

[Justcrazy]

Sadly we have a lot of anti-Islam posters on here who love to hijack but ignore those. We can make dua for them so they find a hobby which means something.

What is your view of Imran Hosein and his lectures on this subject?

It is just assumptions , the exact period of such things are not mentioned anywhere in Quran and Hadeeth. Muslims should concentrate on present instead of waiting for Mahdi or Isa AS. When they are destined to come , they will come.

 

[Justcrazy]

That a Messiah(Not Jesus) would come & fix every problem is very much a jewish tradition. Both Jewish & christian traditions infiltrated hadith books. It is an accepted fact within the scholarly circle.(You can read about Israyeliat from any website you trust).

Abu Hurairah was a person who was hugely influenced by Kaab Al Ahbar(person who brought Israyeliat) and used to narrate from him. Abu Hurairah also was flogged by Umar for narrating hadiths in the name of the Prophet(PBUH). Im saying things that are clearly found in the history books. It might hurt your feelings and I totally understand but hadiths were a huge political weapon back in those days. People narrated stories in the name of Prophet left right & center for their own self interests.

Im not questioning the Prophet's word but just raising questions about the validity of those who narrated in the name of Prophet. Return of Jesus will be a monumental event of the future yet you wont find any prominent companions narrating the incident. All the hadiths regarding the second coming of Jesus & the emergence of Dajjal are hugely dependent on one man, Abu Hurairah. I find it surprising that these events of such importance were not narrated by any leading companions.

Where is it written that Abu Huraira was flogged by Umar ? I never heard of it , if you could provide reference I will check that.

Secondly the Muhaddith have verified hadeeth of all companions strictly and found they have done other sins but in matter of Hadeeth they never lied.

Otherwise Muawiyah could have made up some random hadeeth for his virtue.

Another example is Imam Abu Dawood narrated a hadeeth by Muawiyah and after that he made a comment , he said قَالَ وَكَانَ مُعَاوِيَةُ لاَ يُتَّهَمُ فِي الْحَدِيثِ

Muhaddith says there is No problem in taking hadeeth from Muawiyah.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

It is just assumptions , the exact period of such things are not mentioned anywhere in Quran and Hadeeth. Muslims should concentrate on present instead of waiting for Mahdi or Isa AS. When they are destined to come , they will come.

Yes they will indeed come on their time. But seeking knowledge about it or if the topic interests someone and he likes to research about it in his spare time, it's his choice. We are just discussing about it in our spare time.

 

[MenInG]

Note for all in this thread

You have no obligation to answer a query by anyone else - so make your point, answer who you wish to but don't complain about others posting in this thread.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Sadly we have a lot of anti-Islam posters on here who love to hijack but ignore those. We can make dua for them so they find a hobby which means something.

What is your view of Imran Hosein and his lectures on this subject?

I think he has spent a lot of time on it probably all his life on this subject. Some of the stuff he says makes a lot of sense but then some of the things just seem like paranoia on his part. Recently he even said killing of Chechen and Uhyghur Muslims was correct by their respective countries cause they were blackmailed by Zionists or something. I think he has just become too paranoid and sees everything as some sort of conspiracy now. But he did study a lot of eschatology and a lot of things he says makes sense.

But some of the stuff/theories he believes in are pretty hard to understand. For example, he said Dajjal is already here and the 1st day which was to be like 1 year has passed already. It's the 2nd day - 1 month dimension currently and after that there will be 3rd day - 1 week period and he will manifest as a human right after that. I find that very hard to believe in.

He also said something like Dajjal rising in the east doesn't mean he will come from the east but he will attack Saudia from the American airbase which is located in the east to KSA.

All this stuff makes one question how credible he really is or is it just age catching up with him.

I do find it plausible that Israel will be the main ruler of the world around that time and the power block which is USA atm will shift to Israel.

 

[Justcrazy]

Yes they will indeed come on their time. But seeking knowledge about it or if the topic interests someone and he likes to research about it in his spare time, it's his choice. We are just discussing about it in our spare time.

Yes , he is entitled to do research on matters whose time frame has been mentioned in Hadeeth and Quran. Making assuptions on these matters is unnecessary. People have been waiting for Mahdi from last 1000 years , several people have even claimed to be Mahdi.

Moulana Moududi was told once that we think that you will also claim to be Mahdi one day. He replied , Mahdi is about doing instead of claming.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Yes , he is entitled to do research on matters whose time frame has been mentioned in Hadeeth and Quran. Making assuptions on these matters is unnecessary. People have been waiting for Mahdi from last 1000 years , several people have even claimed to be Mahdi.

Moulana Moududi was told once that we think that you will also claim to be Mahdi one day. He replied , Mahdi is about doing instead of claming.

Mahdi is a title and he won't be born with it but will be given instead. The only clue that we have is that his name will be Muhammad and his father's name will be Abdullah. So just like Isa pbuh (who will descend from heaven), none of us can simply say this guy will be Mahdi or Isa (nauzubillah). Plus Mahdi himself won't claim to be one. Think what we are discussing is the system that has slowly been laid down to cater for those events to happen.

 

[Justcrazy]

Mahdi is a title and he won't be born with it but will be given instead. The only clue that we have is that his name will be Muhammad and his father's name will be Abdullah. So just like Isa pbuh (who will descend from heaven), none of us can simply say this guy will be Mahdi or Isa (nauzubillah). Plus Mahdi himself won't claim to be one. Think what we are discussing is the system that has slowly been laid down to cater for those events to happen.

Yes its a title , not a name , but he is called Al Mahdi . When you add Al it becomes proper. The reason is that Allah swt will himself Guide him.

Yes , Mahdi will not proclaim himself , but his work will show ultimately.

 

[szrana007]

Interesting video regarding the arrival of the Jewish Messiah (Moshiach as Jews call him)

 

[szrana007]

Because that is what the Hadith says.

Killing the pigs is symbolic, not meant to be taken literally.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Normally I would say its just an act but this is truly scary.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying:

The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia reverts to meadows and rivers.


Reference : Sahih Muslim 157c
In-book reference : Book 12, Hadith 76

Saudi weather enthusiast captures rare sight of arid Mecca mountains covered in green

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...ight-of-arid-Mecca-mountains-covered-in-green

 

[sweep_shot]

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying:

The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia reverts to meadows and rivers.


Reference : Sahih Muslim 157c
In-book reference : Book 12, Hadith 76



https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...ight-of-arid-Mecca-mountains-covered-in-green

Incredible. Yet another prophecy probably came true.

Allah (SWT) knows best.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Incredible. Yet another prophecy probably came true.

Allah (SWT) knows best.

The transformation is incredible.

I think they are using similar weather machines to what Dubai did. Sending up drones to fire electricity into clouds. This then thickens the clouds, causing it to rain.

No doubt Dajjal will use this technology to inflict dangerous weather conditions on people.

 

[Mamoon]

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying:

The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia reverts to meadows and rivers.


Reference : Sahih Muslim 157c
In-book reference : Book 12, Hadith 76



https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...ight-of-arid-Mecca-mountains-covered-in-green

“The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him”

So there will be 0 poverty when the last hour arrives? If this is authentic then we can rule out the last hour for at least another 10,000 years.

 

[the Great Khan]

“The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him”

So there will be 0 poverty when the last hour arrives? If this is authentic then we can rule out the last hour for at least another 10,000 years.

No that's not what this means. It means there will be places where a man will come out and will find It difficult to give zakat. But you have to read all of the prophecies in context..others speak of great famine and war but great wealth at the same time.

Some are very very straightforward now but 1400 years ago were mind boggling..the same will happen to us..

 

[Mamoon]

No that's not what this means. It means there will be places where a man will come out and will find It difficult to give zakat. But you have to read all of the prophecies in context..others speak of great famine and war but great wealth at the same time.

Some are very very straightforward now but 1400 years ago were mind boggling..the same will happen to us..

Your explanation makes zero sense. You sound confused because you’re making a desperate attempt to make sense of the hadees because it clearly goes against the narrative that the end of times are near.

This is human nature - every generation thinks they end of time is near. People 1,000 years ago said the same & referenced prophecies that applied to their time.

IMO, the end of time is basically linked to the extinction of the human race. Like all species, we will also die out eventually.

It could be the end of the planet earth as the sun dies out in a few billion years or we could be wiped out by an asteroid like the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

If it is the latter then we have enough technology - & will have even more technology in the future - for NASA to inform the world that we are about to get hit even if they are unable to do anything about it.

 

[the Great Khan]

Your explanation makes zero sense. You sound confused because you’re making a desperate attempt to make sense of the hadees because it clearly goes against the narrative that the end of times are near.

This is human nature - every generation thinks they end of time is near. People 1,000 years ago said the same & referenced prophecies that applied to their time.

IMO, the end of time is basically linked to the extinction of the human race. Like all species, we will also die out eventually.

It could be the end of the planet earth as the sun dies out in a few billion years or we could be wiped out by an asteroid like the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

If it is the latter then we have enough technology - & will have even more technology in the future - for NASA to inform the world that we are about to get hit even if they are unable to do anything about it.

You could be right and I could be completely wrong..I should have qualified my statement by saying inmho..

However with regards to the end of times.i feel too many get caught up in this. The end of times begin when you die..end of..because the next time you will become aware in any sense it will be the day of judgment..

It's good to analyse these hadith because its part if our deen but better to worry about the here and now..

 

[MenInG]

You could be right and I could be completely wrong..I should have qualified my statement by saying inmho..

However with regards to the end of times.i feel too many get caught up in this. The end of times begin when you die..end of..because the next time you will become aware in any sense it will be the day of judgment..

It's good to analyse these hadith because its part if our deen but better to worry about the here and now..

Simple as that.

People need to stop worrying about end of time, start thinking about what happens when you move on.

 

[sweep_shot]

This is human nature - every generation thinks they end of time is near. People 1,000 years ago said the same & referenced prophecies that applied to their time.

Was Arabia ever green in the past 1400 years? I don't think it was. Correct me if I am wrong.

Also, there was a prophecy that Arabs would compete in building tall structures. We now see that (Burj Khalifah and other buildings).

 

[sweep_shot]

Narrated by Umar (RA):

"We were sitting with the Prophet (ﷺ) when a man came to him whose clothes were intensely white and whose hair was intensely black; no signs of travel could be seen upon him, and none of us recognized him. He sat down facing the Prophet (ﷺ), with his knees touching his, and he put his hands on his thighs, and said: 'O Muhammad, what is Islam?' He said: 'To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and that I am the Messenger of Allah, to establish regular prayer, to pay Zakat, to fast in Ramadan, and to perform Hajj to the House (the Ka'bah).' He said: 'You have spoken the truth.' We were amazed by him: He asked a question, then told him that he had spoken the truth. Then he said: 'O Muhammad, what is Iman faith? He said: 'To believe in Allah, His angels, His Messengers, His books, the Last day, and the Divine Decree (Qadar), both the good of it and the bad of it.' He said' You have spoken the truth.' We were amazed by him. He asked a question, then told him that he had spoken the truth. Then he said: 'O Muhammad, what is Ihsan (right action, goodness, sincerity)? He said: 'To worship Allah as if you see Him, for even though you do not see Him, He sees you.' He asked: "When will the Hour be?' He said: 'The one who is being asked about it does not know more than the one who is asking.' He asked: 'Then what are its signs?' he said: 'When the slave woman gives birth to her mistress' (Waki' said: This means when non-Arabs will give birth to Arabs") 'and when you see barefoot, naked, destitute shepherds competing in constructing tall buildings.' The Prophet (ﷺ) met me three days later and asked me: 'Do you know who that man was? I said" 'Allah and his Messenger know best.' He said: 'That was Jibril, who came to you to teach you your religion.'"

Reference: https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:63.

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

 

[KingKhanWC]

^ We have to praise the Lord for giving us such clear signs which have now come true.


Sam Smith's satanic 'Unholy' performance at the Grammys was as Satanic as one will ever see ! I have only seen small clips , as its not something I would want to watch in full.

Sam Smith is a MAN how claims to be THEY. The performance mocked Christianity, almost seems like another welcoming move for the Anti-Christ. How can something this Satanic be shown on national tv to children who follow these degenerate people?

Side note. It was sponsored by Pfizer.

 

[sweep_shot]

^ We have to praise the Lord for giving us such clear signs which have now come true.


Sam Smith's satanic 'Unholy' performance at the Grammys was as Satanic as one will ever see ! I have only seen small clips , as its not something I would want to watch in full.

Sam Smith is a MAN how claims to be THEY. The performance mocked Christianity, almost seems like another welcoming move for the Anti-Christ. How can something this Satanic be shown on national tv to children who follow these degenerate people?

Side note. It was sponsored by Pfizer.

Indeed.

The "Unholy" performance was one of the most disgusting things I have seen. We are truly living in an extraordinary time. May Allah (SWT) protect us.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indeed.

The "Unholy" performance was one of the most disgusting things I have seen. We are truly living in an extraordinary time. May Allah (SWT) protect us.

Its seems the colour RED is an important part of their symbolism. Superbowl and Brit Awards .

 

[KingKhanWC]

 

[Robert]

^ We have to praise the Lord for giving us such clear signs which have now come true.

Sam Smith's satanic 'Unholy' performance at the Grammys was as Satanic as one will ever see ! I have only seen small clips , as its not something I would want to watch in full.

Sam Smith is a MAN how claims to be THEY. The performance mocked Christianity, almost seems like another welcoming move for the Anti-Christ. How can something this Satanic be shown on national tv to children who follow these degenerate people?

I’m amazed that you take guff like this seriously! Rockers have made this sort of protest against religious hypocrisy since the early 1970s. Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Marilyn Manson.

Listen to the words. The song castigates a rich man for cheating on his wife with some young gold-digger.

 

[sweep_shot]

Its seems the colour RED is an important part of their symbolism. Superbowl and Brit Awards .

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Yup. That's what it seems like.

They seem to focus on some common themes - red color, fire, devil/Satan costume, one eye, pyramid etc.

I don't know how can people watch these bizarre performances.

 

[Robert]

Its seems the colour RED is an important part of their symbolism. Superbowl and Brit Awards .

View attachment 118703

Colour of fire, obvo. The stereotype western Devil figure wears a red cape. Even the Robot Devil in Futurama is red.

 

[sweep_shot]

Disgusting and bizarre.

There seems to be a pattern.

Also, the question is, how can people enjoy something like this? Radical liberals truly have bizarre/poor tastes. Anything can become art to these abnormal people.

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

 

[KingKhanWC]

I’m amazed that you take guff like this seriously! Rockers have made this sort of protest against religious hypocrisy since the early 1970s. Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Marilyn Manson.

Listen to the words. The song castigates a rich man for cheating on his wife with some young gold-digger.

With respect Robert, please read the opening post, its a discussion. You dont believe God exists, so of course this is wouldnt make sense to you lol.

Maybe its not a thread of you?

You dont really want to go down the words route.

Bruno Mars last year Grammy winner I think.

"Ayy, ayy, ayy
I got a condo in Manhattan
Baby girl, what's happenin'?
You and your *** invited
So go on and get to clappin'
So pop it for a player
Pop, pop it for me
Turn around and drop it for a player"

Andrew Tate has been crucified for being against women etc. Yet this clown has a grammy? Those lyrics are basically saying I have money ,give me intimacy. No respect for women at all and so many young people listen to this rubbish./

 

[KingKhanWC]

Disgusting and bizarre.

There seems to be a pattern.

Also, the question is, how can people enjoy something like this? Radical liberals truly have bizarre/poor tastes. Anything can become art to these abnormal people.

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

This guy is truly disgusting in my personal opinion. Have you seen his other outfit he wore at the Brits I think ?

There are hadiths which men how women and men will dress in the end times.

 

[sweep_shot]

This guy is truly disgusting in my personal opinion. Have you seen his other outfit he wore at the Brits I think ?

There are hadiths which men how women and men will dress in the end times.

The way they dress is not befitting an animal let alone an adult human.

I am guessing all these are possibly some sort of occult ritual. BTW, check out this video:

 

[KingKhanWC]

The way they dress is not befitting an animal let alone an adult human.

I am guessing all these are possibly some sort of occult ritual. BTW, check out this video:

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Thanks Ill take a look.

Do you know of any hadiths which state how dress will change in the end times. Please just copy and past any relevent ones, no video or link, as its good to have them on here for quick reference.

 

[Robert]

With respect Robert, please read the opening post, its a discussion. You dont believe God exists, so of course this is wouldnt make sense to you lol.

Maybe its not a thread of you?

You dont really want to go down the words route.

Bruno Mars last year Grammy winner I think.

"Ayy, ayy, ayy
I got a condo in Manhattan
Baby girl, what's happenin'?
You and your *** invited
So go on and get to clappin'
So pop it for a player
Pop, pop it for me
Turn around and drop it for a player"

Andrew Tate has been crucified for being against women etc. Yet this clown has a grammy? Those lyrics are basically saying I have money ,give me intimacy. No respect for women at all and so many young people listen to this rubbish./

But Bruno Mars didn’t perform at those shows. The song referred to castigates the mortal sin of Adultery, so is Godly not Satanic.

Eschatology interests me actually. I have often thought that Trump fits the False Prophet motif closely - rising high in politics, deceiving many with serial lying, misusing religious imagery.

 

[sweep_shot]

Thanks Ill take a look.

Do you know of any hadiths which state how dress will change in the end times. Please just copy and past any relevent ones, no video or link, as its good to have them on here for quick reference.

I haven't stumbled upon any hadith that talks about end times dress. However, it has been mentioned that fitnah will increase.

Here are some prophecies that are supposed to happen before Qiyamah (I have given the reference link below):

• Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.
• The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.
• A trial (fitnah) that will enter every Arab household.
• Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge) and ignorance will prevail.
• Wine (intoxicants) will be drunk in great quantities.
• Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.
• Earthquakes will increase.
• Time will pass more quickly.
• Tribulations will prevail.
• Bloodshed will increase.
• A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.
• Trustworthiness will be lost, that is, when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.
• People will gather for Prayer but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.

Reference: https://fiqh.islamonline.net/en/signs-of-the-day-of-judgment-past-present-future/.

As per Abu Dawud 4098, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has cursed men who dress like women and cursed women who dress like men (reference: https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4098).

 

[KingKhanWC]

I haven't stumbled upon any hadith that talks about end times dress. However, it has been mentioned that fitnah will increase.

Here are some prophecies that are supposed to happen before Qiyamah (I have given the reference link below):

• Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.
• The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.
• A trial (fitnah) that will enter every Arab household.
• Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge) and ignorance will prevail.
• Wine (intoxicants) will be drunk in great quantities.
• Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.
• Earthquakes will increase.
• Time will pass more quickly.
• Tribulations will prevail.
• Bloodshed will increase.
• A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.
• Trustworthiness will be lost, that is, when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.
• People will gather for Prayer but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.

Reference: https://fiqh.islamonline.net/en/signs-of-the-day-of-judgment-past-present-future/.

As per Abu Dawud 4098, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has cursed men who dress like women and cursed women who dress like men (reference: https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4098).

Thanks

Here is one, ill try to find more.

Abu Hurayra (rA) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ foretold that there will emerge in the future “women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait, with something on their heads that looks like the humps of camels, leaning to one side. They will never enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.”53

 

[KingKhanWC]

But Bruno Mars didn’t perform at those shows. The song referred to castigates the mortal sin of Adultery, so is Godly not Satanic.

Eschatology interests me actually. I have often thought that Trump fits the False Prophet motif closely - rising high in politics, deceiving many with serial lying, misusing religious imagery.

Last year grammy winner. It doesnt matter if he didnt perform, ill take your word for it as I'd rather chew a brick .

The lyrics are telling a woman to give her body up to him, as he's wealthy. What are you reading?

Its fine if you're interested but please retain some respect, as this is a topic im learning about and also a question of faith. Please dont write , "I’m amazed that you take guff like this seriously!"

But let me ask you, do you accept there are santanic elements in the current music industry and the dress, lyrics and acts are degrading and not great role models for children? Or would you allow kids to watch anything which is mainstream in the music industry?

 

[Robert]

Last year grammy winner. It doesnt matter if he didnt perform, ill take your word for it as I'd rather chew a brick .

The lyrics are telling a woman to give her body up to him, as he's wealthy. What are you reading?

Its fine if you're interested but please retain some respect, as this is a topic im learning about and also a question of faith. Please dont write , "I’m amazed that you take guff like this seriously!"

But let me ask you, do you accept there are santanic elements in the current music industry and the dress, lyrics and acts are degrading and not great role models for children? Or would you allow kids to watch anything which is mainstream in the music industry?

As I have posted many times I afford respect to any belief system which makes people happy and a productive member of society. The guff I refer to is Sam Smith’s costume.

I think some pop stars play with Illuminati imagery to troll fundamentalist religious types.

I think shock-rockers like Marilyn Manson have played with Satanic imagery, but only to attack elements of organised religion. He gave a rather impressive interview. Asked if he felt responsible for a rise in violence and suicides in US society, he said he didn’t feel he had that much power. He said look at the POTUS launching drone strikes - a man of actual power using actual violence to address an issue. Or than an American kid watched 10,000 murders on TV shows before his twelfth birthday.

As I have said there are now plenty of elected officials who more closely fit the False Prophet and Antichrist motif than some pop star wearing a Halloween costume in February.

 

[KingKhanWC]

As I have posted many times I afford respect to any belief system which makes people happy and a productive member of society. The guff I refer to is Sam Smith’s costume.

I think some pop stars play with Illuminati imagery to troll fundamentalist religious types.

I think shock-rockers like Marilyn Manson have played with Satanic imagery, but only to attack elements of organised religion. He gave a rather impressive interview. Asked if he felt responsible for a rise in violence and suicides in US society, he said he didn’t feel he had that much power. He said look at the POTUS launching drone strikes - a man of actual power using actual violence to address an issue. Or than an American kid watched 10,000 murders on TV shows before his twelfth birthday.

As I have said there are now plenty of elected officials who more closely fit the False Prophet and Antichrist motif than some pop star wearing a Halloween costume in February.

I feel these artists start off as normal but then are involved in some sort of immoral/satanic lifestyles or rituals.

Its not something I would want my child to listen to and esp see such musicians as inspirations or idols.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Horrifying Footage Captured The Huge Boom Caused By Volcano Eruption In Tonga

The clip, recorded by Siosaia Lanilangi, showed several people standing near the waterfront looking at the clouds of smoke caused by volcano when a blast can be heard, followed seconds later by an even louder bang that causes everyone to run.

The underwater volcano went off on 15 January 2022 near the island of Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai.

The eruption - described as a once-in-a-millennium event - triggered a sonic boom that was reportedly heard as far away as Alaska, as per The Guardian.

According to the Sydney Morning Herald the explosion was the equivalent of 1,000 Hiroshima bombs.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/huge-boom-caused-by-tonga-volcano-20220117?utmsource=pubityinsta


"The Hour will not commence until knowledge is removed, earthquakes become frequent, time narrows, turmoil surfaces, and anarchy increases— namely killing, [lots of] killing."

Of course this is a volcano but I assume the hadith is referring to increase in natural disasters. This being once in a millennium event certainly fits in the end times prophecies.

Other amazing footage also available on Youtube.

 

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https://www.ladbible.com/news/huge-boom-caused-by-tonga-volcano-20220117?utmsource=pubityinsta


"The Hour will not commence until knowledge is removed, earthquakes become frequent, time narrows, turmoil surfaces, and anarchy increases— namely killing, [lots of] killing."

Of course this is a volcano but I assume the hadith is referring to increase in natural disasters. This being once in a millennium event certainly fits in the end times prophecies.

Other amazing footage also available on Youtube.

Yup.

During end times, our world will face a lot of trials and tribulations. I wonder if we are closer to that time. Allah (SWT) knows best.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Thanks

Here is one, ill try to find more.

Abu Hurayra (rA) narrates that the Prophet ﷺ foretold that there will emerge in the future “women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait, with something on their heads that looks like the humps of camels, leaning to one side. They will never enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.”53

I think the women becoming like men and vice versa is better suited to the elective sex changing procedures and transgenderism etc that has been surging and for some reason being forced to normalize recently.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I haven't stumbled upon any hadith that talks about end times dress. However, it has been mentioned that fitnah will increase.

Here are some prophecies that are supposed to happen before Qiyamah (I have given the reference link below):

• Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.
• The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.
• A trial (fitnah) that will enter every Arab household.
• Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge) and ignorance will prevail.
• Wine (intoxicants) will be drunk in great quantities.
• Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.
• Earthquakes will increase.
• Time will pass more quickly.
• Tribulations will prevail.
• Bloodshed will increase.
• A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.
• Trustworthiness will be lost, that is, when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.
• People will gather for Prayer but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.

Reference: https://fiqh.islamonline.net/en/signs-of-the-day-of-judgment-past-present-future/.

As per Abu Dawud 4098, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has cursed men who dress like women and cursed women who dress like men (reference: https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4098).

All of them are very vague. If you believe this, then you have to believe that Nostradamus is also some kind of super natural figure. Look at his vague predictions.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Yup.

During end times, our world will face a lot of trials and tribulations. I wonder if we are closer to that time. Allah (SWT) knows best.

World now is lot more peaceful and prosperous than it has ever been. People used to die in thousands over simple diseases like dysentery. Wars used to happen almost every where and thousands used to die very often.

 

[Firebat]

[MENTION=141227]BunnyRabbit[/MENTION]

 

[KingKhanWC]

2- The truce and joint Christian-Muslim campaign against a common enemy -- this is referred to as the "Battle Between the Two Great Armies" or Armageddon (at the conclusion of which all war technology shall become unusable) -- followed by a Christian vs. Muslim war -- this is called the "Great Slaughter" (al-malhama al-kubra) -- as stated in the following hadith:

"You will make a firm truce with the Christians (al-Rum) until you and they wage a campaign against an enemy that is attacking them. You will be granted victory and great spoils. Then you will alight in a plain surrounded by hills. There, someone among the Christians shall say: 'The Cross has overcome!' whereupon someone among the Muslims shall say: 'Nay, Allah has overcome!' and shall go and break the cross.

https://www.livingislam.org/n/signh_e.html

al-Rum is referring to the Byzantine Christians, aka Orthodox Christians. In todays world, this would be Russia

The Great War - Al-Malhama is yet to come. I take the view of scholars who believe this is a nuclear war.

Constantinople being captured, the conquest of it would mean Turkey loses aka Nato loses this land.

 

[Stewie]

World now is lot more peaceful and prosperous than it has ever been. People used to die in thousands over simple diseases like dysentery. Wars used to happen almost every where and thousands used to die very often.

Define now. Since the Second World War, we have seen the Korean War, the Vietnam war, the wars in the subcontinent, wars in the Gulf, the Syrian war, wars in Latin America and Africa, the Israel/Arab war, the Syrian war, the war against ISIS, the Bosnian/Serb/Croatian war and now the Ukrainian war.. all these happened in the last 70 odd years.

 

[Stewie]

Forgot the most reverberating Soviet/afghan war