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Well done.
You deserve this win.
A tribute to NZ cricket and attitude.
You deserve this win.
A tribute to NZ cricket and attitude.
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Last 7 ICC titles have been won by 7 different teams!
What a unique record that.
Well deserved win.
But why are NZ likeable? What's so special about them? Pakistan and SL guys hardly sledge anyone either but they are not considered likeable? Why? I don't find NZ anymore likeable than Pakistan or SL.
Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
New Zealand trounced India.They won by 8 wickets.Right now if New Zealand play 5 test series with India in England it will beat India.New Zealand beat England at home.Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
We beat the "real champions" 3 times this WTC - twice in NZ and once in England. Indians aren't as salty as you are. All of the Indians who I've come across online have been gracious in defeat.Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
We beat the "real champions" 3 times this WTC - twice in NZ and once in England. Indians aren't as salty as you are. All of the Indians who I've come across online have been gracious in defeat.
Anyway,
And Inaugural..
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Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
You shouldn’t have hyped the India team they way you did with all those outlandish claims such as “ATG Asian test side of all time”, “Kohli greatest Asian captain of all time”, “Ashwin is a greater player than Imran Khan”.
This was always going to backfire and blow up in your face I’m afraid. Humble pie served my friend. M
I’m by no means an IK cheerleader but what I will say is he dominated NZ which had Hadlee and Martin Crowe. The former is not only levels above any of the current NZ bowlers but also one of the best bowlers to have ever played the game. Martin Crowe is a level or two above Williamson and far superior to the rest of the other NZ batsmen.
I hope lessons have been learnt from this episode of embarrassment for yourself.
Lastly I would like to express my wholehearted commiserations for the loss.
How? Because your beloved Wasim Akram rated him the best player against reverse swing bowling? One averages almost 54, the other averages 45 odd.How?
Crowe would have averaged 50+ and higher than Williamson in the modern era.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] can testify to this as well.

Great win for NZ. Finally after the heartbreak of the world cup, they have something. First ever World Test champions has a nice ring to it. Would have been even more fitting had it been in front of packed Lords crowd though.
Brilliant from Williamson too, great captaincy and a batting masterclass. Stands up when it mattered the most.
Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
If averages alone are what determine the greatness of batsmen, Tendulkar is leagues behind Sangakkara and Kallis.Would have , should have, could have counts for zilch. What matters is how well they performed during their time. Kane averages almost 54, while Crowe averaged 45 odd. That's what matters.
BTW, by your logic Gavaskar, Miandad, Chappell, and Border would have averaged more than 70 in this era![]()

They beat India on a proper pitch by 8 wickets.New Zealand have demolished India inNo one will admit it but this WTC has been a farce and winning in Australia without a doubt is a far greater achievement, NZ have been very very lucky and were practically handed this trophy;
- I don’t expect them to win a full test series vs full strength England team in England
- I don’t see them winning in Australia
- They will not win in India either
Their level is demolishing the likes of Pak/SL/WI/SA who are all middle table teams
But because they are nice guys we should praise their so called golden generation.
If averages alone are what determine the greatness of batsmen, Tendulkar is leagues behind Sangakkara and Kallis.
You shouldn’t have hyped the India team they way you did with all those outlandish claims such as “ATG Asian test side of all time”, “Kohli greatest Asian captain of all time”, “Ashwin is a greater player than Imran Khan”.
This was always going to backfire and blow up in your face I’m afraid. Humble pie served my friend. M
I’m by no means an IK cheerleader but what I will say is he dominated NZ which had Hadlee and Martin Crowe. The former is not only levels above any of the current NZ bowlers but also one of the best bowlers to have ever played the game. Martin Crowe is a level or two above Williamson and far superior to the rest of the other NZ batsmen.
I hope lessons have been learnt from this episode of embarrassment for yourself.
Lastly I would like to express my wholehearted commiserations for the loss.
No one will admit it but this WTC has been a farce and winning in Australia without a doubt is a far greater achievement, NZ have been very very lucky and were practically handed this trophy;
- I don’t expect them to win a full test series vs full strength England team in England
- I don’t see them winning in Australia
- They will not win in India either
Their level is demolishing the likes of Pak/SL/WI/SA who are all middle table teams
But because they are nice guys we should praise their so called golden generation.
It's funny how you talk Kohli up so highly given how many of his own countrymen abuse him and want him gone.Kohli left Imran Khan behind long ago. You cannot compare a captain with 14 Test wins to a captain with 36, especially when the captain with 14 Test wins lost to Sri Lanka in 1985 when they only won 2 Tests in the entire decade.
Regardless of how many cross-era subjective and convenient adjustments one tries to make, the fact is that Kohli is a greater captain than Imran Khan.
People can moan all they want, but he is the most prolific Asian Test captain ever, and no one can take that away from him.
Only Smith, Ponting and Waugh have won more Tests as captain. Learn to respect greatness.
The current India is the greatest Asian Test team of all time and have a greater legacy than every other Asian team.
1) Two Test series wins in Australia; all other Asian sides put together have a big fat zero
2) Only two Test losses at home since 2015 and zero series lost
3) longest reign as the number 1 ranked Test team in the 2010-2020 decade
4) longest number 1 reign for any Asian Test team in history
5) Virat Kohli has more Test wins as captain than any other Asian captain in history
All these achievements make the current India the GOAT Asian Test team. No other Asian tream has a greater legacy.
Would have , should have, could have counts for zilch. What matters is how well they performed during their time. Kane averages almost 54, while Crowe averaged 45 odd. That's what matters.
BTW, by your logic Gavaskar, Miandad, Chappell, and Border would have averaged more than 70 in this era![]()
Kane may considered NZ's greatest ever cricketer after this, Taylor second. Glory adds a lot to a players legacy, irrespective of ability.Kane Wiliamson and Martin Crowe are both phenomenal at home but when it comes to the former his away average is inflated by performances against minnows and on super flat pitches.
Kane Williamson averages almost 100 in Zimbabwe, 80+ in Bangladesh and 65 in UAE.
Barring West Indies, Martin Crowe averaged 40+ against the top 4 bowling attacks away from home during his era i.e. in Australia, England and Pakistan.
Now if we look at Kane Williamson against the top 4 bowling attacks, he only averages 40+ in Australia and even then he hasn't exactly dominated there with his average of 43. Martin Crowe in comparison averaged 67.
Williamson > Crowe at home but Crowe >> Williamson. I would take Crowe over Williamson for a world test championship and for a WTC final played in England.
Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
Indian fans are looking for excuses such the pitch was in N Zealand’s favour or N Zealand had the advantage of playing a series in England prior to WTC or India would have won had it been a three test series.I am confident N Zealand would have white washed India in a 3 test series in England.And it’s funny to see people acting as if india would have beaten NZ in a three match series in England.
They almost certainly would have been whitewashed again like they were whitewashed in New Zealand 15-16 months ago.
Kane may considered NZ's greatest ever cricketer after this, Taylor second. Glory adds a lot to a players legacy, irrespective of ability.
Kohli left Imran Khan behind long ago. You cannot compare a captain with 14 Test wins to a captain with 36, especially when the captain with 14 Test wins lost to Sri Lanka in 1985 when they only won 2 Tests in the entire decade.
Regardless of how many cross-era subjective and convenient adjustments one tries to make, the fact is that Kohli is a greater captain than Imran Khan.
People can moan all they want, but he is the most prolific Asian Test captain ever, and no one can take that away from him.
Only Smith, Ponting and Waugh have won more Tests as captain. Learn to respect greatness.
The current India is the greatest Asian Test team of all time and have a greater legacy than every other Asian team.
1) Two Test series wins in Australia; all other Asian sides put together have a big fat zero
2) Only two Test losses at home since 2015 and zero series lost
3) longest reign as the number 1 ranked Test team in the 2010-2020 decade
4) longest number 1 reign for any Asian Test team in history
5) Virat Kohli has more Test wins as captain than any other Asian captain in history
All these achievements make the current India the GOAT Asian Test team. No other Asian tream has a greater legacy.
[MENTION=147314]topspin[/MENTION]
And this is New Zealand’s greatest ever team, in spite of the Hadlee and Crowe factor. So no point chest-thumping over what Imran did against an inferior New Zealand them.
Imran’s Pakistan will get routed by Kohli’s India anywhere. A far better all-round team.
Congratulations to New Zealand but they do not deserve it. They had an easy schedule and finished a 100 points behind India, the real champions of the WTC.
They were imperious at home and beat Australia in Australia with their reserve squad, enhancing their legacy as the greatest Asian Test team of all time.
New Zealand won the one-off match, but India were the best team in the championship.
If averages alone are what determine the greatness of batsmen, Tendulkar is leagues behind Sangakkara and Kallis.