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Rana said:
How am I derailing the thread when I am talking about YK at no.3 in ODI cricket 🤡






Hahahhahaahhhaha
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You are talking about the strongest 3-5 batters and also bringing in legends like Inzi & MoYo in the discussion

I am still waiting for your explanation on how is YK a proper ODI batter
 
gazza619 said:
You are talking about the strongest 3-5 batters and also bringing in legends like Inzi & MoYo in the discussion

I am still waiting for your explanation on how is YK a proper ODI batter
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Of course I am. We work as a unit. You want to discuss the importance of a player in a format, these factors always matter.

I argue again, the middle order of YK, MoYo and Inzimam is the STRONGEST ever middle order in Pakistan’s 50 over history.

Prove me wrong. Tell me a stronger middle order that Pakistan has played that was appropriate to the era it featured in.
 
In the 90s and 2000s, ODIs were all the rage. Teams regularly put out top teams.

More recently, bilateral ODIs are just like a Sunday League - who remembers the JPL 40 over games. Just a bit of hit and giggle practice in between the real games.

The “averages” and “MoM” achievements that everyone boasts about to put the previous generation (which includes Younis Khan) are down to this.
 
bottom line is even if (and a big if) Younis wasn’t that great in ODIs, should that diminish his greatness? let’s be honest the great defenders are only interested in this discussion because their loverboy Babar may look bad in some way.

I’ll say it again. Babar is pants in tests (average of 40), pants in ODIs with jumped up stats because of B,C teams and goes missing in ICC tournaments, ditto for T20s
 
He got away playing so many games as he was part of a strong squad with less focus on his performance. His test status helped mask his poor performances in ODI.

In today’s team he wouldn’t pass 50 games considering everyone else is equally failing.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
@topspin Aaja bro 🤣

Your great odi batsman younis khan
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No one claimed Younis Khan was a great ODI batsman.

But if I was you, I wouldn’t be ridiculing him when you have Rizwan as your choice of display pic. The less said about his batting, the better.
 
Younis achieved greatness in test cricket, and he brought honour to the country by winning the T20 WC.

He is a certified GOAT in the top tier of Pakistan cricket.

Babar is tier 3. He did have the potential to be a tier 1, and could still finish tier 2. But he has zero test performances that matter, very little ODI big innings and T20 he needs to produce the goods in a WC.

On the contrary when it comes to WK Bats Rizwan has formed a solid legacy for Pakistan. His test performances are often better than Babars too.
 
Rana said:
How about you learn to read properly first

Where did I claim YK is the greatest ever no.3?
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You claimed him to be a ‘proper’ ODI no.3. There is nothing in his stats to suggest that. I am asking you to enlighten us with your theory.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Younis achieved greatness in test cricket, and he brought honour to the country by winning the T20 WC.

He is a certified GOAT in the top tier of Pakistan cricket.

Babar is tier 3. He did have the potential to be a tier 1, and could still finish tier 2. But he has zero test performances that matter, very little ODI big innings and T20 he needs to produce the goods in a WC.

On the contrary when it comes to WK Bats Rizwan has formed a solid legacy for Pakistan. His test performances are often better than Babars too.
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Well put, brother. This had to be addressed, because according to @gazza619 and @Raja Ishtiaq, Babar isn’t just considered great but supposedly superior to Younis Khan - this is up there among the most ridiculous takes in PP history.
 
topspin said:
No one claimed Younis Khan was a great ODI batsman.

But if I was you, I wouldn’t be ridiculing him when you have Rizwan as your choice of display pic. The less said about his batting, the better.
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Your chachu Rana claimed YK to be a proper ODI batter. Be brave and either agree to his claim or disagree. Dont sit on the fence.

And by the way dont use <><><><>vs<><><> as it will not add any value.
 
gazza619 said:
Your chachu Rana claimed YK to be a proper ODI batter. Be brave and either agree to his claim or disagree. Dont sit on the fence.

And by the way dont use <><><><>vs<><><> as it will not add any value.
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It’s not only Rana among the respected posters who views Younis Khan as a competent ODI batsman. Mamoon, whom you yourself hold in high regard, shares that opinion too. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I’m being straightforward, compared to them, you and Raja Ishtiaq fall into the bottom tier of posters, so naturally my perspective isn’t going to align with yours.
 
topspin said:
It’s not only Rana among the respected posters who views Younis Khan as a competent ODI batsman. Mamoon, whom you yourself hold in high regard, shares that opinion too. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I’m being straightforward, compared to them, you and Raja Ishtiaq fall into the bottom tier of posters, so naturally my perspective isn’t going to align with yours.
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If your emotional speech is over can we get back to the topic of the thread. It doesn’t matter what you think about posters. The point is do you agree that YK was a proper ODI batter.
 
gazza619 said:
If your emotional speech is over can we get back to the topic of the thread. It doesn’t matter what you think about posters. The point is do you agree that YK was a proper ODI battet.
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YK was not a proper ODI "battet". Happy now?
 
topspin said:
Well put, brother. This had to be addressed, because according to @gazza619 and @Raja Ishtiaq, Babar isn’t just considered great but supposedly superior to Younis Khan - this is up there among the most ridiculous takes in PP history.
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I think they are having some fun with you guys. Overall they don't believe that Babar is better than Younis across all cricket formats.
 
Rana said:
Pakistan have had too many years of turbulence, politics and infighting as soon as Inzimam stepped away and then you had a slow crawl in of players like Misbah, whilst a drama queen like Hafeez was getting louder and louder with his stuck up attitude! Shoaib Malik as usual doing his “cloak and dagger” politics whilst falling out with everyone. Yousuf continuously living in a delusion of royalty within his head

All of these (although good cricketers) were kept in line during the Inzimam+Woolmer era! They were all let loose like a bunch of wild, toxic pendus and it basically ruined what could have been a great era for Pakistan cricket because the players were still top quality as they had fine batsmen and top class fast bowlers.
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What hypocrisy! You want to credit inzi for handling difficult characters like Malik, Afridi, Hafeez, Yusuf and YK but when I credit Misbah for the same thing, you deny it. Too many double standards in your opinions.

As for standards-

Never forget that under Inzi the captain we suffered our worst humiliation in a WC and we lost to Ireland. As a result, a World Class foreign coach committed suicide. That was Inzi's legacy which led to one of the worst moments in Pakistan's history.

As for Misbah - he carried the test mace and the whole team did pushups at Lords, completing our redemption saga after the spot fixing scandal. This was one of the most iconic moments in Pakisatn cricket. See the difference??
 
daytrader said:
What hypocrisy! You want to credit inzi for handling difficult characters like Malik, Afridi, Hafeez, Yusuf and YK but when I credit Misbah for the same thing, you deny it. Too many double standards in your opinions
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Misbah didn’t handle anyone!

Hafeez was from his agency. They were both represented by Moghees. Yousuf never played under Misbah and found it an insult to be compared to him. Younis Khan has had public/dressing room spats with Misbah and was once about to lose his temper at some tv host comparing him to Misbah. Shahid Afridi may have been respectful towards him on his face but we saw how his own daughter publicly disgraced him for his slow, rubbish batting against India. Shoaib Akhtar didn’t cross paths with him as a skipper but the way he tore him to shreds for his rubbish captaincy and strategy in the 2015 World Cup is for all to see. Malik and him seem to get along fine. Malik brought him in instead of Yousuf for the 2007 T20 World Cup and that’s where he gained some fame…and Misbah backed him at a time when Malik was ostracised and hated by quite a few players in the Pakistan team. He may also be from Misbah’s agency but I’m not sure about this.
 
Rana said:
Misbah didn’t handle anyone!

Hafeez was from his agency. They were both represented by Moghees. Yousuf never played under Misbah and found it an insult to be compared to him. Younis Khan has had public/dressing room spats with Misbah and was once about to lose his temper at some tv host comparing him to Misbah. Shahid Afridi may have been respectful towards him on his face but we saw how his own daughter publicly disgraced him for his slow, rubbish batting against India. Shoaib Akhtar didn’t cross paths with him as a skipper but the way he tore him to shreds for his rubbish captaincy and strategy in the 2015 World Cup is for all to see. Malik and him seem to get along fine. Malik brought him in instead of Yousuf for the 2007 T20 World Cup and that’s where he gained some fame…and Misbah backed him at a time when Malik was ostracised and hated by quite a few players in the Pakistan team. He may also be from Misbah’s agency but I’m not sure about this.
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+if anything, the guy who was doing all the hard and tough work such as player management and dealing with the b.s was Waqar Younis the head coach. He was the one who I suppose Misbah was hiding behind. A lot of the players hate Waqar Younis, they probably didn’t see Misbah as the authority who was making the key decisions!
 
Rana said:
Misbah didn’t handle anyone!

Hafeez was from his agency. They were both represented by Moghees. Yousuf never played under Misbah and found it an insult to be compared to him. Younis Khan has had public/dressing room spats with Misbah and was once about to lose his temper at some tv host comparing him to Misbah. Shahid Afridi may have been respectful towards him on his face but we saw how his own daughter publicly disgraced him for his slow, rubbish batting against India. Shoaib Akhtar didn’t cross paths with him as a skipper but the way he tore him to shreds for his rubbish captaincy and strategy in the 2015 World Cup is for all to see. Malik and him seem to get along fine. Malik brought him in instead of Yousuf for the 2007 T20 World Cup and that’s where he gained some fame…and Misbah backed him at a time when Malik was ostracised and hated by quite a few players in the Pakistan team. He may also be from Misbah’s agency but I’m not sure about this.
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Right, Pakistan's most successful captain didn't handle anyone. What kond of Kool aid are you drinking?

Doesn't matter of Hafeez was represented by the same agency. Him and Misbah had their differences but both tried to hide them from the public.

Yousuf!!! What a spiteful human being he had become at that time. He was jealous that he wasn't made captain and went on a hate spree against Misbah then. He didn't even spare YK in his vitriol. A decade later though the same Yousuf changed his tone to work under Misbah.

Really you're bringing in Shahid Afridi's daughter as a cricket expert? Why don't you actually read comments from real pundits on how well Misbah handled captaincy. Have you ever read any of Osman Samiuddin's articles. He makes it very clear on the respect Misbah used to get from the dressing room.
 
Younis khan was a rubbish limited overs player, which many including his fans didnt want to admit back in 2010.

His fan brigade was the most crazy and toxic one, as they had made this persona of Younis being this innocent man who has been wronged by all others. Interestingly, Younis doing bad in a match, he was never blamed for it, the blame was placed on the other players.

Uptil 2008, fans treated Younis (in odi) like how they treated players like M. Harris or Haider Ali, where they would say that dont worry Younis will perform and eventually Younis would perform on the flatest of wickets, especially if we were playing against Sri Lanka or a minnow team.

He did have the talent though, and was suppose to be the next best super star batter from Pakistan. One thing that carved this image was the Karachi media, as Younis being from Karachi had gathered the support of the journalist and media houses that existed in Karachi. Remember the champions trophy semi final that we could had won against New Zeland, but Younis dropped a sitter of Grant Elliot who went on to win the game for his team? No one raised a finger on this.

His reputation would bag him a contract in the IPL with the royals, but he played a few games because even the royals learned Younis was just garbage.

Than came the world t20 that we won under his captaincy, and his reputation went skyrocketing. But than there were cracks in his leadership, and the oath taking took place as many players that played with him knew he was a toxic individual.

Anyways, by 2011 fans realized he was garbage, but anytime Younis was removed from the one day squad, he would blackmail his way back to the team through his media rona dhona. He had no place in the 2015 world cup squad, and was almost not being considered, but Younis being Younis, went to the media and started to cry, and soon he was made part of the squad. Younis would not do anything in that World cup.

I often called Younis Khan in odi cricket as the Aafia Siddiqui of cricket. A person who has crafted this false image in the hearts of foolish Pakistanis, that uses the media to make themselves innocent when in reality they were not.
 
gazza619 said:
If your emotional speech is over can we get back to the topic of the thread. It doesn’t matter what you think about posters. The point is do you agree that YK was a proper ODI batter.
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He tends to make certain posters his abu.
 
Rana said:
Misbah didn’t handle anyone!

Hafeez was from his agency. They were both represented by Moghees. Yousuf never played under Misbah and found it an insult to be compared to him. Younis Khan has had public/dressing room spats with Misbah and was once about to lose his temper at some tv host comparing him to Misbah. Shahid Afridi may have been respectful towards him on his face but we saw how his own daughter publicly disgraced him for his slow, rubbish batting against India. Shoaib Akhtar didn’t cross paths with him as a skipper but the way he tore him to shreds for his rubbish captaincy and strategy in the 2015 World Cup is for all to see. Malik and him seem to get along fine. Malik brought him in instead of Yousuf for the 2007 T20 World Cup and that’s where he gained some fame…and Misbah backed him at a time when Malik was ostracised and hated by quite a few players in the Pakistan team. He may also be from Misbah’s agency but I’m not sure about this.
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Mohammed Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar and Younis Khan fell out with multiple players during their days as players and as pundits. Yousuf was bitter that he was dropped from WT20 for Misbah. Shoaib pretty much accuses the whole of Pakistan of lack of jazba apart from him, Wasim, Waqar.

Younis was annoyed by some of the comparisons. As a player he should have been getting compared with MIandad but his name became intertwined with Misbah. But we should note that it's the same Younis Khan who feels disrespected everywhere he goes, gets into fights with comedians on TV because he doesn't feel respected as a senior player, and has been accused of putting a knife to the throat of a coach.

They are not saints, has anyone really handled them?
 
daytrader said:
Him and Misbah had their differences but both tried to hide them from the public.
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Care to highlight those differences?

I’ve always seen Hafeez, Ajmal, Azhar and Shafique licking Misbah’s boots. It’s a chaaploos dynasty.
 
daytrader said:
Really you're bringing in Shahid Afridi's daughter as a cricket expert?
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No you 🤡

I’m alluding towards the actual resentments and animosity players hold towards each other which resonate through their family members+friends+associates airing them out in public because they are not centrally contracted and the board cannot go after them.

Like Yograj Singh continuously raging against Dhoni for many things that he felt were not in favour of his Son

Shahid Afridi and Shaheen’s bro also started an indirect campaign against Babar Azam too after he backstabbed Shaheen.

Kids are innocent, but they will openly say the stuff they hear at home or from their parents. It’s a telling sign. Unless you genuinely believe Afridi subscribed to Misbah’s coward brand of cricket?
 
Major said:
Uptil 2008, fans treated Younis (in odi) like how they treated players like M. Harris or Haider Ali, where they would say that dont worry Younis will perform and eventually Younis would perform on the flatest of wickets, especially if we were playing against Sri Lanka or a minnow team
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I swear that’s how you people treat Rizwan??

Pot calling the kettle black is a culture it seems
 
Was a below average player in this format.
After every good test knock/series of him you believed he will do well also in ODI's. But that really never happened.

Moreover, he also underperformed in some very crucial matches.
 
Rana said:
The thread isn’t about your double standards either.

You don’t have an issue with a poster claiming YK fans were treating him like Haider Ali when it’s the same people doing it for Rizwan.

Next time, do not tell me what the thread is and isn’t about. Tere abbey ka forum nahi hai! The mods will do their job. Know your role, and stay in your Lane. Got it?
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I have a challenge for you. If you can meet the challenge I will join you in this anti RizBar journey.

The task is not sure the words, Rizbar, Rizwan & Babar in any of your posts in the next 24 hours.

Do you accept?
 
gazza619 said:
Was a proper ODI batter though, as per some.
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During those days, Pakistan had Inzi, Mohammad Yousuf etc.

YK wasn't the main batter.

Here was a typical Pakistani ODI XI at that time:

Afridi
Salman Butt
Inzi
Yousuf
YK
Shoaib Malik
Kamran Akmal
4 bowlers.
 
Problem with Younis in ODI was he was neither power hitter nor good at rotating strike. So he wud slow down proceedings

Similar to Rahul Dravid. Thats why he was forced to keep wickets in ODIs to justify his place
 
sweep_shot said:
During those days, Pakistan had Inzi, Mohammad Yousuf etc.

YK wasn't the main batter.

Here was a typical Pakistani ODI XI at that time:

Afridi
Salman Butt
Inzi
Yousuf
YK
Shoaib Malik
Kamran Akmal
4 bowlers.
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Yes and whatever success Pakistan had in ODIs had nothing to do with YK.

Both Younis Khan and Shoaib Malik along with some fixers ensured Pakistan never reached the top in ODIs.
 
Rana said:
Of course I am. We work as a unit. You want to discuss the importance of a player in a format, these factors always matter.

I argue again, the middle order of YK, MoYo and Inzimam is the STRONGEST ever middle order in Pakistan’s 50 over history.

Prove me wrong. Tell me a stronger middle order that Pakistan has played that was appropriate to the era it featured in.
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What about Zaheer Abbas , Miandad , Malik played together ?
 
gazza619 said:
Your chachu Rana claimed YK to be a proper ODI batter. Be brave and either agree to his claim or disagree. Dont sit on the fence.

And by the way dont use <><><><>vs<><><> as it will not add any value.
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He has 7249 runs @31.24 with strike rate of 75.

7 hundreds and 48 fifties.

It shows that in the games in which he failed , he failed badly. I was surprised he has 56 sixes also.

Someone with 48 fifties is averaging so low.
 
Rana said:
Of course I am. We work as a unit. You want to discuss the importance of a player in a format, these factors always matter.

I argue again, the middle order of YK, MoYo and Inzimam is the STRONGEST ever middle order in Pakistan’s 50 over history.

Prove me wrong. Tell me a stronger middle order that Pakistan has played that was appropriate to the era it featured in.
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I think Pakistan had a better middle order in the 90's.

This was a typical Pakistan's XI in the 90's:

Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Ijaz Ahmed
Inzamam
Azhar Mahmood
Moin Khan
Shahid Afridi
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
Shoaib Akthar

YK debuted in 2000. So, he wasn't a part of that legendary 90's side.
 
sweep_shot said:
I think Pakistan had a better middle order in the 90's.

This was a typical Pakistan's XI in the 90's:

Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Ijaz Ahmed
Inzamam
Azhar Mahmood
Moin Khan
Shahid Afridi
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
Shoaib Akthar

YK debuted in 2000. So, he wasn't a part of that legendary 90's side.
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@Rana

Forgot to add Mohammad Yousuf.

I think Pakistan had the best middle order in the 1999 WC.

Ijaz, Inzi, and Yousuf - that's a legendary ODI middle order.
 
sweep_shot said:
I think Pakistan had a better middle order in the 90's.

This was a typical Pakistan's XI in the 90's:

Saeed Anwar
Aamir Sohail
Ijaz Ahmed
Inzamam
Azhar Mahmood
Moin Khan
Shahid Afridi
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
Shoaib Akthar

YK debuted in 2000. So, he wasn't a part of that legendary 90's side.
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This XI is not possible , you have packed it with bowlers. Just four specialist batters.
 
Justcrazy said:
This XI is not possible , you have packed it with bowlers. Just four specialist batters.
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What? Afridi and Azhar Mahmood were batting all-rounders during the 90's.

Afridi used to open batting.

Azhar scored 2 Test centuries in South Africa.
 
Major said:
Uptil 2008, fans treated Younis (in odi) like how they treated players like M. Harris or Haider Ali, where they would say that dont worry Younis will perform and eventually Younis would perform on the flatest of wickets, especially if we were playing against Sri Lanka or a minnow team.
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really? Who was the top scorer in England v Pak 2006 ODI series in England?

Younis was quite an infuriating ODI player at times I agree, but let’s not start lying.
 
Rana said:
Yousuf never played under Misbah and found it an insult to be compared to him. Younis Khan has had public/dressing room spats with Misbah and was once about to lose his temper at some tv host comparing him to Misbah.
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Loved Moyo’s reaction to Misbah comparison and I was so glad Younis clarified it on that show.

Misbah fans tried to piggyback off Younis’ successes and even started the whole MisYou nonsense.

MisYou was a real insult to Younis.

Younis was a bona fide great whereas Misbah was just an opportunistic loser.

Kahaan Younis and Yousuf and Misbah acting as if he’s on the same level lol
 
Rana said:
Of course I am. We work as a unit. You want to discuss the importance of a player in a format, these factors always matter.

I argue again, the middle order of YK, MoYo and Inzimam is the STRONGEST ever middle order in Pakistan’s 50 over history.

Prove me wrong. Tell me a stronger middle order that Pakistan has played that was appropriate to the era it featured in.
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Malik, Yousuf and Inzi was stronger
 
Mobashir said:
Was a below average player in this format.
After every good test knock/series of him you believed he will do well also in ODI's. But that really never happened.

Moreover, he also underperformed in some very crucial matches.
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Exactly. Just like how the current failiures Haider Ali.

I think i realized how bad Younis was by the time of IPL. Back than, not into too much stats, and we were all made to believe that Younis was this next best selfless thing that will do wonders. Than in the IPL, he was amongst the lowest bid players. I think no one bid for him except for Rajistan Royals.

And than he sucked in the games and was benched mostly.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Mohammed Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar and Younis Khan fell out with multiple players during their days as players and as pundits. Yousuf was bitter that he was dropped from WT20 for Misbah. Shoaib pretty much accuses the whole of Pakistan of lack of jazba apart from him, Wasim, Waqar.

Younis was annoyed by some of the comparisons. As a player he should have been getting compared with MIandad but his name became intertwined with Misbah. But we should note that it's the same Younis Khan who feels disrespected everywhere he goes, gets into fights with comedians on TV because he doesn't feel respected as a senior player, and has been accused of putting a knife to the throat of a coach.

They are not saints, has anyone really handled them?
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Younis had this habit of rona dhona since his earlier days, but many of us did not see it.

When Younis was sold as the cheapest player in the IPL, he even did a rona than. Younis in his head thought he deserved more money than what Flintoff and KP got.

www.dawn.com

Pakistan players not paid well in IPL: Younis

KARACHI, Feb 7 Pakistan cricketers got a raw deal from the Indian Premier League (IPL) and were paid less than what...
www.dawn.com

Guy is full of himself. Rajistan i think only played Younis for 1 game, thats it
 
gazza619 said:
Agreed. But who can convince @Rana who thinks YK was a proper ODI batter.
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Rana doesn't think like people that have been watching cricket for a long time. He doesn't think Babar is a good player and thinks Asif Ali should be Captain.

Why are you surprised by yet another opinion that goes against what most normal people would believe. Although this is A LOT better than some other opinions like the Asif Ali one. This is still withing the realm of rational conversation.
 
Shoaib Malik has a better record in terms of average and strike rate despite playing much lower down the order earlier in his career.
 
sweep_shot said:
What? Afridi and Azhar Mahmood were batting all-rounders during the 90's.

Afridi used to open batting.

Azhar scored 2 Test centuries in South Africa.
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yes but i think you missing a specialist batter somewhere . In 1999 Salim Malik or Yusuf would come in , and waqar will not be there.
 
Justcrazy said:
yes but i think you missing a specialist batter somewhere . In 1999 Salim Malik or Yusuf would come in , and waqar will not be there.
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I was referring to 1990's in general. You can say a rough estimation.

Those players I mentioned were regulars in the 1990's but there were other players too. For example, Pakistan often rotated between Rashid Latif and Moin Khan. Among pacers, there were Mohammad Akram, Wasim Akram, Waqar, Aaqib Javed, Azhar Mahmood, Abdul Razzaq, Shoaib Akthar etc.
 
Mediocre ODI batsmen and should never have played as many games as he did
 
Rana said:
Naa, it’s pretty much how much I value your input.
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I gave you no input. I gave my input related to the thread. People can agree or disagree, no worry.
Don't know how you felt I was talking to you in my post related to YK.
 
Younis Khan thought he should had been sold for money compared to KP and Flintoff loll
 
People here are underestimating how bad an odi batsman Younis Khan was. It was criminal he managed to play that much.

His Overall stats are quite bad but they don't even tell half the story.
His average/SR combo vs some good teams :
Australia : 16/57
England : 26/71
New Zealand : 27/70
South Africa : 26/67
West Indies : 27/66

That's an Overall 125 innings.
 
sweep_shot said:
I was referring to 1990's in general. You can say a rough estimation.

Those players I mentioned were regulars in the 1990's but there were other players too. For example, Pakistan often rotated between Rashid Latif and Moin Khan. Among pacers, there were Mohammad Akram, Wasim Akram, Waqar, Aaqib Javed, Azhar Mahmood, Abdul Razzaq, Shoaib Akthar etc.
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The team you wrote was very simillar to what pakistan played in 199 WC. Mahmood is a very underrated player. Should have played more.
 
Major said:
Younis Khan thought he should had been sold for money compared to KP and Flintoff loll
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He's very self centred man he has a big ego.

But I tell you what. To fans he is always decent and respectful, happy to take pictures and chat, discuss with kids, laughs and jokes.

Probably the nicest player I've met and I've met and chatted to most of the old lot.

Guys like Afridi, Yousuf, and especially Inzi didn't give fans the time of day.

Younis and Umar gul top men when it comes to fans.
 
Mobashir said:
People here are underestimating how bad an odi batsman Younis Khan was. It was criminal he managed to play that much.

His Overall stats are quite bad but they don't even tell half the story.
His average/SR combo vs some good teams :
Australia : 16/57
England : 26/71
New Zealand : 27/70
South Africa : 26/67
West Indies : 27/66

That's an Overall 125 innings.
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Thats a proper performance by a proper ODI batter.

Rana can confirm this but somehow RizBar should be blamed for YK’s ODI record.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He's very self centred man he has a big ego.

But I tell you what. To fans he is always decent and respectful, happy to take pictures and chat, discuss with kids, laughs and jokes.

Probably the nicest player I've met and I've met and chatted to most of the old lot.

Guys like Afridi, Yousuf, and especially Inzi didn't give fans the time of day.

Younis and Umar gul top men when it comes to fans.
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Nice to hear that but I would rather YK was a bad guy on and off the field with some opposition killing performances.
 
YK’s undue insistence on being included in 2015 wc squad and opening ultimately hurt his legacy. His SR of 75 is not good by any means but not as bad as it looks now either.

Based on my research listening to his interviews, he carried a lot of frustration. A feeling of being unjustly treated by PCB over the years. That built up and eventually made him act in the way he did vis-à-vis his ODI inclusion.

For me his low ODI average is the more disappointing aspect than his lowish SR in the format.
 
Obaidd said:
YK’s undue insistence on being included in 2015 wc squad and opening ultimately hurt his legacy. His SR of 75 is not good by any means but not as bad as it looks now either.

Based on my research listening to his interviews, he carried a lot of frustration. A feeling of being unjustly treated by PCB over the years. That built up and eventually made him act in the way he did vis-à-vis his ODI inclusion.

For me his low ODI average is the more disappointing aspect than his lowish SR in the format.
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YK‘s career sr spanned from 2000-2015


Babar and Rizwan have that kind of strike rate now in 2025
 
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