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How good was Mohammad Azharuddin in the '90s?

That hundred in SA was a good innings.. but very rare in 90s for away matches. His away average against top bowling attacks :

SA : 23
Aus : 21
WI : 12
Pak : 23 (in India, since he didn't play in Pakistan).


I feel these 4 were the good bowling attacks of 90s..The average is pretty disappointing.

He had excellent average against NZ/SL (70/60) and good against Eng(46) away.. but then against Zim he failed in 2 matches scoring at average of 5.
 
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He was one of the most stylish batsmen you will ever see with natural flair and elegance.

Yes, dazzling. I remember the century he got at Lord's against Fraser and Malcolm where he played shots I never saw before. He was uncanny - he seemed to be able hit every type of ball to three different places.

Azhar was a genius.
 
Yes, dazzling. I remember the century he got at Lord's against Fraser and Malcolm where he played shots I never saw before. He was uncanny - he seemed to be able hit every type of ball to three different places.

Azhar was a genius.

What that genius has done in SA/Aus/WI or against Pak in 90s ? Against Eng he was very good though both home and away.

Also he had a hugely successful tour of Eng in 1990 with the scores of:

121, 37, 179, 11, 78.


but was horrible in 1996 with the following scores :

13, 0, 16, 5, 8

Can be seen that after late 80s and early 90s as such he had declined a great deal, and his performance in Eng also got affected. He still performed against them in India though.. but seriously in 1993, Eng had sent a poor attack on Indian conditions.
 
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Inzimam was a different class.

As for Azharuddin, I remember an ODI against New Zealand in the late 1980s which was lost until he came and scored the then fastest hundred.

The 100s he scored would come at lightning pace.

His 70-ball 100 against South Africa in 1996 where he shared a good stand with Anil Kumble and revived India's fortunes although they would end up losing the match.

His 100 in Australia in 1992 which almost won India the test chasing a huge target.

Yes, these were good innings. In fact his hundred in Adelaide remains his only class innings against Austalia in 9 attempts in Aus.. and some other attempts in India.

But the point you can see, the good innings were very few and he played poorly o/w.
 
Once again stats are bs, Azhar has to be look above stats, have to think of times he came of age, his background and India as whole.

For westerns it is hard to understand the concept and I see desis, specially living abroad having same thinking process, stats mean jackshit for most ppl in subcontinent (am not tlking abt cricket nerds) Afridi popularity on subcontinent should be evidence enough.

Off Topic: Anyone who calls Inzi home bully basically know jack abt cricket and shouldn't comment.
 
Once again stats are bs, Azhar has to be look above stats, have to think of times he came of age, his background and India as whole.

For westerns it is hard to understand the concept and I see desis, specially living abroad having same thinking process, stats mean jackshit for most ppl in subcontinent (am not tlking abt cricket nerds) Afridi popularity on subcontinent should be evidence enough.

Off Topic: Anyone who calls Inzi home bully basically know jack abt cricket and shouldn't comment.

Well it's your opinion, and I don't rely on stats either.. but an average of low 20s in SA/Aus and 12 in WI, 8 in Eng (if you leave the 90 tour), 20s against Pakistan.. surely talk about a picture.

Again these stats are showing his decline in 90s.. may be he was better in 80s.

And, what is so special about Azhar that he has to be looked beyond stats ? What impact did he have otherwise ?

His 1996 tour to Eng scores :

13, 0, 16, 5, 8
 
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OP is just coming across as a hating bitter tool now as most people have clearly shown their lack of concern regarding statistics and expressed their liking for Azhar's undoubtedly stunning cricketing abilities. Can't we simply keep it at that only and stop forcing down statistical garbage and lame comparisons to everyone's throats?
 
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OP is just coming across as a hating bitter tool now as most people have clearly shown their lack of concern regarding statistics and expressed their liking for Azhar's undoubtedly stunning cricketing abilities. Can't we simply keep it at that only and stop forcing down statistical garbage and lame comparisons to everyone's throats?

Thanks for your kind words :)

I like the highlighted part.. undoubtedly stunning ? Yes, very true, it was stunning to observe how poor was he in 90s, specially outside India and outside attacks like NZ and SL.
 
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And, what is so special about Azhar that he has to be looked beyond stats ? What impact did he have otherwise ?

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I will pick a few of Afridi or Hafeez's innings where they looked unstoppable. Will you look beyond stats for them as well ?

I can pick a few good innings of Ajit Agarkar/Suresh Raina/Ganguly also in Test matches, if I come to it. Will you start calling them world class and look beyond stats ?

Anyone can play an innings of class, to be world class, you need to have consistency. I am not a stats fan either, but average of 10s and 20s is to bad to ignore.
 
I started watching Cricket during the early 90s and till the time he retired , I remember Azhar for two counter attack tons that he scored against SA - One home and other away - he hit Klusener for 5 boundaries in 1 over... Apart from that I have never seen him doing anything significant.

The Indian team were bunch of losers under his Captaincy and inspite of being a Senior player I dont remember any instance in the Odis where he stepped up his game and assisted Tendulkar in winning matches for India.

He did jack all during the 96 , 99 WC's and under him the Indian Cricket was moving nowhere. It doesnt matter if the allegations were true or not but Azhars exclusion from the Indian team , followed by emergence of an aggressive captain in form of Ganguly who is the real architect of all the success that India has enjoyed from 00- present, was the best thing to happen to Indian Cricket.

With Azhar at the helm of affairs , the Indian team would have still remained the frightened lambs even today.
 
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I will pick a few of Afridi or Hafeez's innings where they looked unstoppable. Will you look beyond stats for them as well ?

The difference of course being that Azharuddin was actually good.

I can pick a few good innings of Ajit Agarkar/Suresh Raina/Ganguly also in Test matches, if I come to it. Will you start calling them world class and look beyond stats ?

Putting Agarkar in the same bracket as Ganguly has me questioning your sanity.
 
Thanks for your kind words :)

I like the highlighted part.. undoubtedly stunning ? Yes, very true, it was stunning to observe how poor was he in 90s, specially outside India and outside attacks like NZ and SL.

I agree here. " Look beyond the stats " argument is getting a little too annoying now. Watching the likes of Azhar or Inzi could be an amazing experience for some, but the fact is, that both of them were garbage in testing conditions and probably a worse bat than Ravichandran Ashwin.
 
Azhar was a failure as a Test batsman if you consider performance in foreign conditions.
 
The difference of course being that Azharuddin was actually good.



Putting Agarkar in the same bracket as Ganguly has me questioning your sanity.

No, I didn't put Agarkar in the same bracket as Ganguly.. just gave three examples. Also the three examples were in increasing order of batting ability in Test matches. Still none of them world class.

I would say, Ganguly's 144 in Australia in 2003, though set the tone for the series.
 
I started watching Cricket during the early 90s and till the time he retired , I remember Azhar for two counter attack tons that he scored against SA - One home and other away - he hit Klusener for 5 boundaries in 1 over... Apart from that I have never seen him doing anything significant.

The Indian team were bunch of losers under his Captaincy and inspite of being a Senior player I dont remember any instance in the Odis where he stepped up his game and assisted Tendulkar in winning matches for India.

He did jack all during the 96 , 99 WC's and under him the Indian Cricket was moving nowhere. It doesnt matter if the allegations were true or not but Azhars exclusion from the Indian team , followed by emergence of an aggressive captain in form of Ganguly who is the real architect of all the success that India has enjoyed from 00- present, was the best thing to happen to Indian Cricket.

With Azhar at the helm of affairs , the Indian team would have still remained the frightened lambs even today.

I think I pretty much wanted to say the same thing. Sad to see some of his fans not accepting the truth and giving vague arguments like style and having three shots to a ball..

Afridi had pretty much all these qualities of being a crowd puller too.
 
Azhar was a failure as a Test batsman if you consider performance in foreign conditions.

Well, I will say in the 90s yes.. you can have a look at his tour to NZ though where he played well.

Also, in Eng in 1990.. he scored 2 hundreds and averaged very well there.

After that.. may be starting 1991.. he was an utter failure. The difference in his performance to the two tours to Eng (one in 1990 and other in 1996) shows it.
 
I think I pretty much wanted to say the same thing. Sad to see some of his fans not accepting the truth and giving vague arguments like style and having three shots to a ball..

Afridi had pretty much all these qualities of being a crowd puller too.

There is a reason Lara always will be rated above Kallis.
 
There is no doubt Tendulkar was the no.1 batsman in India during the 90s. Tell us who comes after. In what place will you put Azhar?
 
There is a reason Lara always will be rated above Kallis.

Kallis is a very very good bat though, but if you think only "style" differentiates the class b/w Lara and Kallis, well.. I have not heard of many more uninformed comments than that.
 
There is no doubt Tendulkar was the no.1 batsman in India during the 90s. Tell us who comes after. In what place will you put Azhar?

That's what my point is.. in the period they played together .. India only had ONE world class Test batsman. So much for Indian batting to be called world class..

Rest were just filling numbers, and occasionally played a good innings here and there, or supported the main bee. .

Once the main bee was out, Indian fans and players lost hope and on 90% of the occasions, played only to complete formalities. Heard of TV switch off in Indian households ?

Rest of them were all support class, and not good enough to be rated. If I call him no.2, it will seem a great thing to be no. 2 to the best batsman in your side, which is not real

To be world class, you need to be much better than a good innings here and there and average of 20s and 10s away from home. Against Pak he averaged 23 I think. In WI, an average of 12.. :)
 
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That's what my point is.. in the period they played together .. India only had ONE world class Test batsman. So much for Indian batting to be called world class..

Rest were just filling numbers, and occasionally played a good innings here and there, or supported the main bee. .

Once the main bee was out, Indian fans and players lost hope and on 90% of the occasions, played only to complete formalities. Heard of TV switch off in Indian households ?

Rest of them were all support class, and not good enough to be rated. If I call him no.2, it will seem a great thing to be no. 2 to the best batsman in your side, which is not real

To be world class, you need to be much better than a good innings here and there and average of 20s and 10s away from home. Against Pak he averaged 23 I think. In WI, an average of 12.. :)

Now I understand you. :)

As I said earlier Azhar was 2nd or 3rd best Indian bat in those times. But was he or anybody else world class. I don't know. World class is just an opinion. You can't prove it.

Once the main bee was out, Indian fans and players lost hope and on 90% of the occasions, played only to complete formalities. Heard of TV switch off in Indian households ?

Heard? What do you expect? I am an Indian and a fan of Sachin. I've done that. :)
 
Now I understand you. :)

As I said earlier Azhar was 2nd or 3rd best Indian bat in those times. But was he or anybody else world class. I don't know. World class is just an opinion. You can't prove it.



Heard? What do you expect? I am an Indian and a fan of Sachin. I've done that. :)

Thanks for understanding me.

World class can't be proven much better than an average of 20/10 against top bowling attacks. I wouldn't call him world class, with these stats. Stats don't give clear picture always, but these averages are difficult to ignore. In Eng tour of 96, he averaged less than 10.

Yes, sorry I took liberty to inform someone of an act he himself was party to. :)
 
Thanks for understanding me.

World class can't be proven much better than an average of 20/10 against top bowling attacks. I wouldn't call him world class, with these stats. Stats don't give clear picture always, but these averages are difficult to ignore. In Eng tour of 96, he averaged less than 10.

Yes, sorry I took liberty to inform someone of an act he himself was party to. :)

Will you take last 3 years of Tendulkar's record or his record against SA and Pak and term him not world class?
 
Azhar was one of the main reason of india's mediocracy in 90s.. Matches in which tendu didnt score chances of india went down to 10%
 
Will you take last 3 years of Tendulkar's record or his record against SA and Pak and term him not world class?

Tendulkar averages 42 vs SA (47 in SA and 36 in India) . With almost a century in every tour there, except 2006.

Tendulkar has hit 136 and 194* two good centuries against Pakistan. And played a match winning innings in Delhi 2007 too. His tour wise average against Pakistan is :

1989 : 35 (in Pak)
1999 : 30
2004 : 68 (in Pak)
2005 : 51
2006 : 21 (in Pak)
2007 : 70

Not sure what you mean by Tendulkar's poor record against Pakistan. Which period you are talking about ?

I am not discounting Azhar on one or two teams.. but I counted his record since 1991-1999 in Eng/WI/SA/Aus/ ..and against Pakistan .. a whole decade.

Also, I am not saying he wasn't world class overall. I am only saying in 90s he wasn't.
 
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Tendulkar averages 42 vs SA (47 in SA and 36 in India) . With almost a century in every tour there, except 2006.

Tendulkar has hit 136 and 194* two good centuries against Pakistan. And played a match winning innings in Delhi 2007 too. His tour wise average against Pakistan is :

1989 : 35 (in Pak)
1999 : 30
2004 : 68 (in Pak)
2005 : 51
2006 : 21 (in Pak)
2007 : 70

Not sure what you mean by Tendulkar's poor record against Pakistan. Which period you are talking about ?

I am not discounting Azhar on one or two teams.. but I counted his record since 1991-1999 in Eng/WI/SA/Aus/ ..and against Pakistan .. a whole decade.

Also, I am not saying he wasn't world class overall. I am only saying in 90s he wasn't.

Would say a batsman with an average of 42 is world class? What is the minimum requirement to be a world class batsman/bowler?
 
Would say a batsman with an average of 42 is world class? What is the minimum requirement to be a world class batsman/bowler?

Not sure you have a valid argument.. an average of 42 is against one team (and in SA it is 47 by the way)..

If Tendulkar had poor average against 3-4 good bowling attacks or had average of 20s against any good bowling attack, it would be a valid point.

average of 50 is a good benchmark, but you can't have average of 50 against ALL opposition attacks.. that will make your overall average above 60-65.. because you will cash in on poor attacks too.

Against Pakistan his average came down in 2006 because of his elbow injury troubling him and he wasn't 100 % match - fit. Else you can see he performed above average against them almost on all occasions.
 
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Tendulkar averages 42 vs SA (47 in SA and 36 in India) . With almost a century in every tour there, except 2006.

Tendulkar has hit 136 and 194* two good centuries against Pakistan. And played a match winning innings in Delhi 2007 too. His tour wise average against Pakistan is :

1989 : 35 (in Pak)
1999 : 30
2004 : 68 (in Pak)
2005 : 51
2006 : 21 (in Pak)
2007 : 70

Not sure what you mean by Tendulkar's poor record against Pakistan. Which period you are talking about ?

I am not discounting Azhar on one or two teams.. but I counted his record since 1991-1999 in Eng/WI/SA/Aus/ ..and against Pakistan .. a whole decade.

Also, I am not saying he wasn't world class overall. I am only saying in 90s he wasn't.

Didnt he average 40 + in the the 1999 tour?

Unless you're counting the Asian Championship match, in which he failed.
 
Would say a batsman with an average of 42 is world class? What is the minimum requirement to be a world class batsman/bowler?

I think he is one of the handful of batsmen in history (and the only one amongst modern greats) to average 40+ in and against every cricketing nation.

That is not just world class, but doing it over a span of two and a half decades puts him near the top of the tree when you talk about the best batsmen to have ever played test cricket.

Azhar was good, but i would rate Inzamam slightly higher.

India were a one man show till Dravid, Ganguly, VVS, Sehwag, HArby, Zak arrived.
 
Didnt he average 40 + in the the 1999 tour?

Unless you're counting the Asian Championship match, in which he failed.

Well, I am including series + Test championship both. Yes, usually series is more important..but you have to count overall average.

Also, he suffered due to back injury in Delhi Test (injury of Chennai Test) and then in Kolkata Asian Test championship too.. he wasn't 100% match fit.

In Delhi Test, he came wearing a waist belt just to bat.. and didn't field for long I assume. It's no coincidence that Tendulkar's two poor series against Pakistan in 1999/2006 both occured when he was injured partially and was troubled a lot due to back/elbow injury and his form dipped in 2006-07.

A fully fit Tendulkar had only one average series against Pakistan in 1989 when he was just so young. Else, he averaged 68/70/51 in other three series.
 
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Bradman, Sobers, Tendulkar, Lara would just pray to be able to play those kind of shots. Pure swagger!
 
Azhar was a fantastic player during his time, it's not just his stats in test matcehs but even in ODI's he had played some brilliant knocks and it was at a time when there were many brilliant bowlers around and the tracks were no where near as flat as what we get today, esp abroad when India used to struggle big time in places like South Africa and Australia.

I will never say Azhar was as good a player as Sachin or Lara but he was definitely a Top Tier player, in fact if we go by Indian cricket then he would come close to be the best batsmen after Sachin, Gavaskar, MAK Pataudi and Dravid, I will always rate him ahead of players like Ganguly, VVS, Vengsarkar, etc... Azhar's on his day was absolutely wonderful to watch, in addition to all this he was perhaps the best fielder India has ever produced.
 
Guys I think it's not fair to compare the current Indian players with the ones from the 90's, the current lot is a T20 lot, they play on very flat tracks more often than not and they are still very poor when playing outside the subcontinent as is evident by the 0-8 scoreline outside the subcontinent in recent years, we'll have to see how they go about in RSA and NZL later this year / early next year.

Dhoni is more of a LOI player, his test credentials are still a question mark, same goes for players like Yuvraj and Raina, no ere near as good a test players esp on helpful wickets for the bowlers, probably the only one who will be able to match the very best among the current Indian players is Virat Kohli who is an exceptional talent, other than him I think most of our younger players are only FTB's and LOI players.
 
Anyone who has watched cricket in the 90's would never raise a question about Azhar's batting abilities Tempus, however there is one thing I agree on that Azhar has had a tough time against WI and AUS, be it ODI's or tests, he generally did not do well against these two nations. even I don't remember many of Azhar's really good innings against these two nations.
 
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Last 5 years of Ricky Ponting and he didn't take money to under perform.
 

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What am I doing in this thread wasting so much time? I don't even like him. :)
 
That's what my point is.. in the period they played together .. India only had ONE world class Test batsman.

Agreed

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What that genius has done in SA/Aus/WI or against Pak in 90s ? Against Eng he was very good though both home and away.

Also he had a hugely successful tour of Eng in 1990 with the scores of:

121, 37, 179, 11, 78.


but was horrible in 1996 with the following scores :

13, 0, 16, 5, 8

Can be seen that after late 80s and early 90s as such he had declined a great deal, and his performance in Eng also got affected. He still performed against them in India though.. but seriously in 1993, Eng had sent a poor attack on Indian conditions.

i remember the 90 tour. He came in after Shastri did all the hardwork and plundered a tiring bowling attack by scoring quickly together with Dev.
Shastri was the man of the series for me.
 
Anyone who has watched cricket in the 90's would never raise a question about Azhar's batting abilities Tempus, however there is one thing I agree on that Azhar has had a tough time against WI and AUS, be it ODI's or tests, he generally did not do well against these two nations. even I don't remember many of Azhar's really good innings against these two nations.

That's what my point was. Azhar may have had the ability (it's subjective), but where was his performance ?
 
In one day cricket a legend and match-winner.On slow wickets a great batsmen who could at his best overshadow Sachin Tendulkar.In England in 1990 batted in a manner no Indian great batsman has equaled exhibiting supreme artistry.Strangely never scored a double-hundred.Also did not have a great record versus West Indies or Australia and scored the bulk of his runs against England,Sri Lanka and New Zealand.Played some of the finest one day innings ever.

One of the games all time great stylists .
 
At one point of time, he was our best batsman after tendulkar in tests. Probably more an indication of our poor batting standards than anything else. One of the finest players of spin and English bowling. Struggled against SA,AUS,WI - so certainly not a great.
 
At one point of time, he was our best batsman after tendulkar in tests. Probably more an indication of our poor batting standards than anything else. One of the finest players of spin and English bowling. Struggled against SA,AUS,WI - so certainly not a great.

Then Dravid, Ganguly, Inzy, Yousuf aren't greats either.
 
And then people throw hissy fits when Pak fans praise Asif & Amir. Shame that a proven fixer is not only leading a lavish life at the cost of exchequer, but is also chosen as people's representative.
 
Former Indian captain Mohammad Azharuddin lashed out at the Hyderabad Cricket Association (HCA) for not allowing him to attend the special general meeting (SGM) held at the Rajiv Gandhi International Cricket Stadium in Hyderabad on Sunday.

Azharuddin was made to wait outside the gate for an hour and later denied entry at an SGM of the HCA. The meeting was scheduled on Sunday to adopt the recommendations of the Justice RM Lodha committee.

"It was so embarrassing. Sorry I don't want to say, I was made to wait outside for one hour. I have captained India for 10 years and I am from here, Hyderabad. These people don't know A-B-C-D of cricket. They have never held a bat or ball," a furious Azharuddin was quoted as saying by the International Bussiness Times.

"I wonder according to which Lodha guidelines the office-bearers are still in power. The image of the HCA itself has taken a beating. Cricket is different from politics and it's the cricketers who are suffering the most. My fight is not against any individual, but against the system riddled with flaws," added the former right-handed batsman, who played 99 Tests for India.

The 54-year-old former batsman also questioned the legitimacy of the meeting: "This is an illegal body with the president (G Vivekanand) himself facing a conflict of interest by being advisor to the state government. The irony is that this is the fourth meeting being convened by the ruling group to implement the Justice Lodha committee recommendations," he said.

Azharuddin later added that he was grateful that former president of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) Shivlal Yadav and V Hanumantha Rao supported his cause so that he could attend the meeting. Members of HCA also questioned Vivekanand's move to stop Azharuddin from attending the SGM.

HCA president Vivekanand later said, "We needed to endorse the Lodha panel guidelines to get funds to run the show. We will not back out just because someone is indulging in false allegations. We are here to serve the game in the best interests of the players."

http://www.firstpost.com/firstcrick...being-stopped-from-attending-sgm-4292621.html
 
So someone who fixed matches as a captain was first allowed to become MP by religion based votes and now he is being given administrative power in cricket circles..
 
Azhar along with Barry Richards and Lawrence Rowe were among the game's most elegant batsmen. He would have been my most favourite batsman had he not brought disrepute to the game.
 
On his day Azhar was as good as anyone else. With incredible wrists he could force the ball to near impossible parts of the ground. His cheating has greatly tarnished all the good that he did in the game although in the movie "Azhar" he obviously denied any wrong doing. Although a personal matter being a divorcee who cheated on his wife has further effected his reputation. It is up to India if or not they played him again. Amir has done his time, he was eligible to represent Pak again under ICC rules. I have always said that cheats should be banned, permanently.
 
Played in a crap Indian team
Kambli was much better talent than Azhrudeen

Would have struggled in the modern era with his lack of power hitting capabilities
 
Dravid hardly struggled against Australia save for his last tour.

In my memories he always performed against us.

That is not true. Dravid had only one good series in Australia the 2003/04 series. He failed in the 1999/00 series as well as his last series in Australia. The 99 series was one of the worst Indian performance in Australia, even worse than the 1991/92 series (we came close to winning the Sydney test then). Except for Sachin, no other batsman was consistent including Dravid. I remember Ganguly did well and scored a half century in Adelaide and Laxman scored a hundred in the dead rubber in Sydney. Even at home, he had a horrible time until that Kolkata innings. He only averaged 38 overall vs Australia and his record of 41 in Australia was bolstered by one monster series in 2003/04.

He struggled against Australia and SA predominantly, even though he played some memorable innings against them as well.
 
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Played in a crap Indian team
Kambli was much better talent than Azhrudeen

Would have struggled in the modern era with his lack of power hitting capabilities

You don't need power to hit big sixes if you can time the ball properly, although it's difficult to do it repeatedly, needs high level skill.
 
Mohammad Azharuddin, former India captain, is free to contest for the post of president of Hyderabad Cricket Association as the Indian cricket board has made it clear that it no longer debars him from holding any position in ICC or BCCI or its affiliated associations.

In effect, his life ban has been lifted. Since the BCCI didn’t challenge Andhra Pradesh High Court order which set aside BCCI’s life ban on “procedural irregularities” grounds, the board will not challenge Azharuddin’s candidature.

The Indian Express also understands the board will clear all pending dues of Azharuddin, that includes monthly gratis, and one time benefit handed to former cricketers in the next annual general body meeting.

The matter came to light after Prakash Jain, HCA’s ad-hoc committee chairman, had sought clarification from BCCI on Azharuddin’s eligibility for elections last January. Adarsh Saxena, who looks after BCCI’s legal affairs, had mailed the BCCI CEO Rahul Johri, a copy of which is in possession with The Indian Express, about board’s legal position.

“We understand that BCCI was contemplating filing a review petition against Andhra Pradesh High Court order sometime in March 2013. However, we understand that BCCI ultimately did not challenge the APHC order and that same has attained finality. We understand that BCCI has not responded to the letter.” Saxena’s email reads.

Saxena further wrote, “In the light of the aforesaid, in our view, the BCCI order no longer debars Mr Azharuddin from holding any position in the ICC/BCCI or any of its affiliated associations as same has been set aside vide the APHC order. In view thereof, it is open Mr Azharuddin to participate in the ongoing election of the Hyderabad Cricket Association provided he is not otherwise disqualified in terms of the orders dated 2nd January 2017 and 3rd January 2017 read with the Lodha committee recommendations/directives.”

‘Not debarred’
In its response to HCA, the BCCI stressed the view that Azharuddin wasn’t debarred from contesting, and it also added that the BCCI won’t express any view on whether he is otherwise qualified or disqualified from participating in the elections to HCA as it’s not for BCCI to examine or advise on the eligibility or non-eligibility of persons seeking to contest elections to state associations.

Last year, Azharuddin made the move to contest in the elections, and wrote a letter to BCCI on the issue. That he would like to contribute in the field of cricket, and requested to be considered for a respectable position in the ICC/BCCI or affiliated state associations.

Subsequently, Jain, as part of HCA, had also sought clarifications from the board whether the electoral officer can accept his nomination filed through a local HCA affiliated club. In his reply to Jain after advice from his legal team, the CEO Johri cleared the air that BCCI order no longer debars Azharuddin from holding any position in ICC/BCCI or any affiliated association.

The timeline of Azhar’s ‘comeback’ story

Dec 5, 2000: BCCI’s disciplinary committee held in its order that Azharuddin had “close contacts and nexus with certain named bookies/punters and was involved in match fixing.” And that he is “debarred from playing any cricket matches conducted or authorised by ICC/BCCI or affiliated associations, and also debarred from holding any postion in ICC/BCCI or affiliated associations for life commencing from 5th December 2000.

2003: Hyderabad city civil court dismissed Azharuddin’s suit seeking BCCI order be set aside. Azharuddin challenged the decision in the Andhra High Court.

2012: The High Court set aside the city civil court’s judgement and decree, and also set aside BCCI’s order on account of various procedural irregularities.

2013: News emerges that BCCI was likely to contest the High Court’s decision but they ultimately don’t challenge the order.

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...-hyderabad-cricket-association-polls-5022329/
 
Hyderabad Association Asked To Remove Ex-India Captain Mohammed Azharuddin's Name From Stand: Report


Former India skipper Mohammed Azharuddin faced a severe blow as his name from the stand at the Rajiv Gandhi International Cricket Stadium, Uppal, Hyderabad will be removed. Hyderabad Cricket Association has received the order of removing the name of Azharuddin from the North Pavilion Stand. Apart from this, the HCA has also been ordered to not to issue anymore tickets with the name of Azharuddin. The order was passed by Justice V. Eswaraiah, the Hyderabad Cricket Association's ethics officer and Ombudsman on Saturday.

According to a report by Cricbuzz, it has been stated that the decision has been take due to a conflict of interest. For the unversed, Azharuddin was the president of HCA in 2019 and during an apex meeting in the same year, it was decided that North Pavilion Stand at the Rajiv Gandhi International Cricket Stadium will renamed from "WS Laxman Pavilion" to his name.

On February 28 this year, a complaint was filed by Hyderabad's Lords Cricket Club (LCC) as they demanded the removal of Azharuddin's name from the stand. They cited that it's conflict of interest as according to Rule 38, a member of the Apex Council cannot take any decision in their favour.

Apart from this, the LLC also pleaded with the Ombudsman to set aside the 'high handed' action of Azharuddin in naming the North Stand as Mohammed Azharuddin Stand and it be continued as the WS Laxman Stand "for all practical purposes.

In his 25-page verdict, Eswaraiah said, "The fact that there has been no ratification/modification of the decision by the General Body further strengthens the case against the Respondent No. 1 (Azharuddin), as the Respondent No. 1 has exceeded his authority to benefit himself."

After the decision, the LCC took a sigh of relief. As quoted by the Sportstar, the club's treasurer, Somna Misra, said, "This decision reinforces our commitment to transparency and integrity. We thank the authorities for their fair and just evaluation."
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Wow the shameless match fixing captian sold tickets in black when he was president and decided to have stand in his own name.
 
Wow the shameless match fixing captian sold tickets in black when he was president and decided to have stand in his own name.
The traitor needs to be paraded on the streets of Hyderabad on a donkey with a garland of shoes around his neck.​
 
A most contemptible man.

As an aside, from what I have read the Hyderabad Cricket Association could one of the most toxic local boards in the country.

Former HCA president Shivlal Yadav’s nepotism over his very mediocre son’s cricket career was a running controversy. Arjun Yadav was basically pitchforked into teams where he shouldn’t have been a ball boy.

Ambati Rayadu had a running battle against the guy.
 
World class is a very subjective term.

In the 90s there were 9 test playing teams and assuming that each team plays on average 6 batters the total available pool is 50-55 batting slots.

If a batter was among the top 6-8 batters for a substantial period of time (i.e. multiple years say 3-4) then the batter is clearly elite level and in the talks for an era great.

Given the difficulty in becoming an established Test batter (as well evidenced by the number of batters Eng tried and failed with in 90s), I would suggest that if a batter is in top 1/3 of world batters for a consistent time period >4 yrs then batter is world class.

Thus for me Azhar over the course of his career (i.e. 1984-2000) was clearly world class. As were Richie Richardson, Aravinda de Silva and Daryl Cullinan. The holes that stat filters put up are irrelevant, over the course of a long career every batter will be exposed somewhere or another. But those who saw these guys bat know that they had the skillset and temperament to counter any type of bowling on any wkts.

Two steps above these guys were the elites - SRT, Border, Lara, Crowe and Steve Waugh

One step below these guys were likes of Andrew Jones, Dean Jones, Saleem Malik who had shorter spells of world class performance.

If OP is looking at an Indian specific context then I can advise that in 1980s, India's elite batter was mainly Vengsarkar and Gavaskar was next best and winding down by mid 80s. Azharuddin came in and quickly became the #2 elite batter in the team and when Vengsarkar wound down he was for a period till 94-95 India's only world class batter till Sachin took over.

Over the course of Azhar's career he was for almost 13 yrs ('84-'97) in top 2 Indian batters and only post Dravid's ascension by 98 did he drop down to #3. The next best batters in the post Gavaskar era were Sidhu and Shastri who were both levels below Azhar.
 
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