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Yadav and Junaid are of a similar pace.
Junaid consistently hits the 140s in ODIs, not in Tests though.
Yadav is the same, I believe.
There is Huge Different between Sharjah Pitch and Australian Pitches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNW_YgBxEyE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E8OcnkFU1Q
Shoaib Akthar at his Peak
Bowling around in between 140-145kph on Sharjah Pitch
Junaid Khan was Ave 138-139kph in Dubai and Abu Dhabi in his first spell
Today he was Ave 133-134kph in Morning
Talha is Capable of Bowling 143-144kph
Mohd Shami is More of Junaid Khan pace
Umesh Yadav was Consistently Bowling at 138-142kph Recently against SA in ODI Series
Ave Speed was 140kph
150kph is To Much Mate
i feel Yadav is Better test Class Bowler than how Good he is in Limited Over,s Cricket
Without going into exact figures and range, I think Johnson bowled 2-3 spells in Ashes which I see as express. A touch slower than Akhtar/Lee but faster than genuine fast bowlers. I will bracket Yadav as a genuine fast bowler.
Express bowlers are supposed to be rare.
I have seen him with 88-89 MPH average speed on flattish Indian wickets against WI for the entire test. You don't need to always bowl at that range but only genuine fast bowlers can maintain that average speed on flatter wickets. He has bowled genuine fast but never at express pace. That's how I see it.
Putting few balls at high speed is not really a sign of a genuine fast or an express bowler.
A decent definition. You do need to bowl few spells at 92-95 to be called an express. It has to be few spells not few balls.
Yadav and Junaid are of a similar pace.
Junaid consistently hits the 140s in ODIs, not in Tests though.
Yadav is the same, I believe.
Umesh Yadav Was 90mph Around Before Injury
Yadav is atleast couple of yards quicker than Junaid or Talha.Talha is more like Mohammad Shami's pace.
Check Shami's speeds vs WI in India series his avg speed was 139-140ks and top speed was around. 145ks.Talha was bowling similar pace.
In the ODI that Yadav played his top speed was around 148ks and avg around 142ks.IDK which ODI you watched.
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No one today bowls in Lee-Akhtar range.They would bowl entire spell at over 150ks and i mean almost every ball.Johnson bowled between 145 to 155 ks.Most of his balls were around 148ks and few balls over 150ks.Very quick but not Lee-Akhtar class.
Well, in future, if he bowls lot slower in test matches all the time then I won't call him a genuine fast but for now I bracket him as a genuine fast. Not sure why Dhoni didn't play him in any tests in SA.
I don't know other names from India but Indians have not produced any genuine fast bowler apart from Yadav. Yaah, people will give examples of few bowlers but you do need to maintain a high speed for the entire test match or series. You don't need to do it each series but keep doing it time to time specially on flatter wickets. On Asian wickets, it comes handy.
Umesh Yadav Was 90mph Around Before Injury
But after Back injury (Which Happened to him in between England and India test series)
he is Now 138-141kph Average Fast Bowler like Junaid khan
Will Love to see veron aaron Bowling at 90mph
i heard Arron also Can Bowl Fast
According to Cricinfo
Umesh Yadav is Medium Fast
Junaid Khan,Mohd Irfan,Wahab Riaz and Mitch Johnson are Left arm Fast
Dale Steyn,Morne Morkel,Tino Best Right arm fast
Umesh Yadav according to Cricinfo (Right arm Medium fast)
Yadav is atleast couple of yards quicker than Junaid or Talha.Talha is more like Mohammad Shami's pace.
when was the last time he played a full test, let him play couple of consecutive tests before putting him in certain speed bracket.
He has played ODIs and has bowled over 90MPH.Lots of players like Milne or Cummins haent played test but are still put in certain speed bracket.
Where did you see Umesh Yadav bowling at 138-141ks?
http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2013-14/engine/match/648655.html?view=hawkeye
Even in ODIs where he normally bowls slower to get control he is avging 87+MPH with fastest ball of 148ks.Yadav is easily quicker than Junaid or Talha.
And please dont tell me what cricinfo lists,it makes serious errors with such listings.
Umesh Yadav Speed in Durban Odi early this year (Sources Cricinfo)
last over
1st ball 85mph
2nd ball 83.2
3rd 82.9
4th 86.7
5th 87.3
6th 87.9
Overall Yadav Ave Pace in Durban odi was 86mph
His Fastest was 90mph in Durban Odi
Sir there is Huge different between Centurion Pitch and Sharjah Pitch
Where did you see Umesh Yadav bowling at 138-141ks?
http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2013-14/engine/match/648655.html?view=hawkeye
Even in ODIs where he normally bowls slower to get control he is avging 87+MPH with fastest ball of 148ks.
RF, RFM, LF is always decided on tests, so you have to wait.
I didn't know that you can see these in graphical forms. Do all matches have this?
I wasn't watching SA-Indian series. So, Yadav bowled only 1-2 balls below 85 MPH even in ODIs. He is still bowling in genuine fast category but I mainly look at test matches. If bowlers do it on flatter wickets then that tells you a lot about bowlers who could maintain a high average speed in all conditions.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-pakistan-2013/engine/match/567369.html?view=hawkeye
Check this Cricket J
Junaid Khan Speed
Consistently in between 87-89mph
Unlike Yadav one bowl at 83mph next at 88mph
Fastest 91mph
Have you gone nuts.Yadav hardly bowls a ball below 85 MPH.Even in his comeback 2 games he was quick.Junaid and Talha are couple of miles slower than him.You would be hard pressed to find a test match where Yadav doesnt avg over 87MPH i wonder whether Junaid managed that.
The link Hasham posted, Junaid has a few 89.9MPH deliveries while being consistently 85-89 MPH consistently, so think he can manage it
lol people arguing over umesh and talha. How about adding wahab riaz into this discussion? He bowls around with the same pace as johnson and look who is the real deal? Pace isn't always everything. You need control and variation too which johnson has. Umesh and wahab have pace but they are useless. They haven't done anything special in whatever opportunities they have got.
lol people arguing over umesh and talha. How about adding wahab riaz into this discussion? He bowls around with the same pace as johnson and look who is the real deal? Pace isn't always everything. You need control and variation too which johnson has. Umesh and wahab have pace but they are useless. They haven't done anything special in whatever opportunities they have got.
lol people arguing over umesh and talha. How about adding wahab riaz into this discussion? He bowls around with the same pace as johnson and look who is the real deal? Pace isn't always everything. You need control and variation too which johnson has. Umesh and wahab have pace but they are useless. They haven't done anything special in whatever opportunities they have got.
lol people arguing over umesh and talha. How about adding wahab riaz into this discussion? He bowls around with the same pace as johnson and look who is the real deal? Pace isn't always everything. You need control and variation too which johnson has. Umesh and wahab have pace but they are useless. They haven't done anything special in whatever opportunities they have got.
Agreed. Both Riaz and Yadav are in the same class as Sami. Can be deadly once in a blue moon but are spray-guns most of the time. Yadav's economy rate is laughable to be honest.
atleast has a best performance in WC knock out game losing cause but what has poor Umesh achieved ah! may be a good last over in an IPL game
5-fer in a test match against aus in aus. But that's it.
This guy is crap!
I don't know why Ind made him look so good but this guy has nothing to offer.
Btw, he only bowls around 135-140kph and people call him "phasst".
Can't believe you guys forgot the Sharjah Test so fast.
That was a one-off performance.
That was nothing special either. He didn't blow out the team or showed extra pace/swing.
Wow PP, some of the criticism here is completely over the top. You have the right to judge his previous performances, however you must leave the current test out of it. He hasn't even bowled 10 overs yet...
Well, when you come in in the media and talk up how fast you bowl, then you come out in a real game and bowl 10k slower, you deserve the criticism.
again an overhyped bowler from pakpassion.. may be the pakistan domestic bowler's speed reading machine is not working...
i never saw him bowl at 140 atleast once....one of the spray guns... no swing, no movement, just a trundler
I second that.Unfortunately, just not good enough. As average as they come.
Wahab should replace him at the SSC.
Unfortunately, just not good enough. As average as they come.
Wahab should replace him at the SSC.
i dont know where to start........... the pitch is a flat track, you bring in Johnson and he will give you a similar performance
Hundred per cent agreed. People are going OTT here. Real concern is our spinners who havent taken a single wicket whereas the Sri Lankan spinners managed to grab 7-8 wickets.
i dont know where to start........... the pitch is a flat track, you bring in Johnson and he will give you a similar performance
That has more to do with our crap batting.
That has more to do with our crap batting.