"I am proud to be mentioned in the same breath as the great Sachin Tendulkar" : Asad Shafiq

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"I am proud to be mentioned in the same breath as the great Sachin Tendulkar" : Asad Shafiq

Likened to Sachin Tendulkar for his style of batting by Pakistan Head Coach Mickey Arthur, Asad Shafiq continues to defy his critics by putting in superlative performances in Test matches. The latest example of his talent coming in the recently concluded Test series against England where Asad's innings of 109 at The Oval proved to be crucial in helping Pakistan draw the series. Since his debut in 2010, his tally of over two thousand and eight hundred runs in forty-five Test matches scored at an impressive average of almost forty-three runs has undoubtedly made him a mainstay of the Pakistan Test batting line-up.

In an exclusive interview with PakPassion.net, Asad spoke on a variety of topics including his team's preparations for and success during the tour of England, influence of Misbah-ul-Haq and Younis Khan as his mentors, the comparison with Sachin Tendulkar by Mickey Arthur and his hopes of succeeding in the Limited-overs formats in future for Pakistan.



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PakPassion.net : What were your expectations and aims going into the Test series against England?

Asad Shafiq : I had a good idea of what to expect from England given that we had played against them twice in UAE not so long ago. We knew what our capabilities were and the aim was to utilise those capabilities in England and play with confidence. What was really beneficial was the army camp in Pakistan and then the fact that we arrived in England a few weeks ahead of the Test series. These two things when combined meant that mentally and physically we were ready for the challenge of facing England. The training in England before the Test series was a major boost to the confidence of all the squad and it helped paint a clear picture of what to expect and also helped us get used to playing with the Dukes cricket ball and adjusting to how that ball would behave in English conditions.

Ahead of the series I spoke with a few people who actually frightened me about what I will encounter in England and the fact that the ball seaming and swinging around will make things very difficult for me. There again, others who I spoke with gave me confidence and said that if your preparation is good then you have nothing to worry about and also that if you play to the best of your abilities and with confidence then everything will be alright.


PakPassion.net : How difficult was it to bounce back from the two defeats at Old Trafford and Edgbaston?

Asad Shafiq : I went into the Lord's Test brilliantly prepared and bursting with confidence having made runs in the warm-up matches. The ball was coming nicely onto the bat and that continued at Lord's. My first innings at Old Trafford was good but then I flopped in the next three innings and you have to just appreciate that the likes of James Anderson, Stuart Broad and Chris Woakes are very good bowlers and they seize on any weakness of a batsman. I was struggling against the inswinging delivery and my bat position to those deliveries was incorrect and the England bowlers worked on that flaw. So then after I made a pair at Edgbaston I sat down with Younis Khan and we spoke at length about how I had batted and the errors that had crept into my batting. It wasn't an easy conversation as it had been a very difficult week for me but it was a very beneficial chat for me as my performance at The Oval showed.


PakPassion.net : How did the idea of you batting higher up the order at The Oval come about?

Asad Shafiq : Mickey Arthur approached me and asked me if I had batted up the order at number three in the past and how I felt about it. I said to him that I had been batting higher up the order all my life and had opened or batted at number three throughout my career, for teams in Karachi and for my departmental team. He said to me that he wanted me to bat at number three and he felt that was the right position for me. I said to him that I was fine with that and happy to do that for the team and I had no fears about batting at that position. It worked well as I made a century which the team and I needed.


PakPassion.net : Going forward, do you feel that the number three position is your best batting position in Test cricket?

Asad Shafiq : I've always felt confident and comfortable batting at number three because this is the position where I have played the vast majority of my cricket. I'm used to batting at number three against the new ball so I'm quite happy batting at this position in future if that's what the team and management want from me.


PakPassion.net : You are now approaching three thousand Test runs and have been in the Pakistan Test team since 2010. How has the journey been for you so far?

Asad Shafiq : The journey has been a good one. It's had its ups and downs, with some good series and some not so good series, but I have always tried to be consistent and to ensure that my form doesn't fluctuate too much. By and large I have managed to achieve that. You cannot score runs in every match but what I want from myself is consistency and that has been my aim. I'm a batsman who likes to analyse my mistakes and scrutinise them and to work on my weak points. I've learnt a lot from these six years in international cricket both in cricketing terms and as a human being. Looking ahead, I aim to continue to develop as a cricketer and to continue learning in the future.


PakPassion.net : There's a sense of serenity when you are at the crease. Is that what you want to portray when you are batting?

Asad Shafiq : Yes I do and this is me in a nutshell off the field also. If you speak to my friends and the people who have known me for a long time they will say that I am the sort of person who doesn't want to be in the limelight or want to be the centre of attention. I don't make friends that easily and with my batting I take my time to get my innings started, in the same way I take my time to become friendly with people. The serenity is there also in my private life and I am not someone who wants to grab the headlines; I would rather spend my free time with my family. As a professional cricketer you get very little time with your family and I like to make the most of that precious time.


PakPassion.net : There are some cricketers who crave headlines and live their life in the public eye and on social media. You don't seem to be one of those cricketers?

Asad Shafiq : We are playing cricket series one after the other. In between there is practice and domestic matches and training. You get so little time with your family members that I feel it's absolutely imperative to ensure you spend that spare time wisely. I'd much rather be at home with my family than spending my evening and spare time on social media. I also don't want to feature in news headlines or appear on television channels all of the time. I have a presence on social media, but I rarely use it.


PakPassion.net : How beneficial has it been for you to have had Misbah-ul-Haq and Younis Khan around as role models and mentors?

Asad Shafiq : I've been blessed and have been very lucky to have played the vast majority of my Test cricket alongside Misbah-ul-Haq and Younis Khan. It's an honour to be playing in an era when these two greats are around. Younis Khan is such a fantastic personality and you can learn so much from him on and off the field. He is a true professional as is Misbah-ul-Haq. Their training schedules, their diet, their professionalism is second to none and being around such men can only improve you as a cricketer and as a person. If I have any cricketing issues or things are not going right then the two people that I always turn to are Misbah-ul-Haq and Younis Khan.


PakPassion.net : As cricketing cycles go, it won't be long before you are amongst the next role models and mentors for the upcoming generation of Pakistan Test batsmen?

Asad Shafiq : Misbah-ul-Haq and Younis Khan have been the mainstays of Pakistan cricket for so many years and have carried the Pakistan batting on their shoulders for such a long time. It will be very difficult to replace such great cricketers and match their achievements but we have to try and that is where the responsibility falls on my shoulders and the other senior batsmen in the team. We need to ensure that we build on, and continue the great work these two legends have done for Pakistan cricket and ensure that we give our all for the cause and not let their great work go to waste.


PakPassion.net : Your performances in Limited-Overs cricket have not mirrored your achievements in Test cricket. Is that something you wish to put right now that you have been selected for the ODI series against West Indies?

Asad Shafiq : It's an area of my game that I am very keen to rectify. Recently at the National Twenty20 Cup I performed well and I hope to continue that in the future. Cricket has changed and I know that I have to match the modern day methods of batting in the Limited-Overs formats especially with the higher strike-rates for batsmen. It's good to be back in the ODI squad and I feel that I have improved in the last twelve months in both fifty and twenty over cricket and I have been working very hard to sort out the issues that affected my batting in the shorter formats. It's been about improving in the Limited-Overs domestic tournaments and I feel I have done that. I had to make adjustments and improvements to my batting in these shorter formats and I knew that I had to improve as a cricketer in these formats as I simply had not been good enough to hold a place in the Pakistan team in these formats. I feel that I have made changes to my batting in Limited-Overs cricket and in the last twelve months the signs have been good. I feel that I am ready to play Limited-Overs cricket again for Pakistan and I'm thankful to the selectors for giving me another opportunity.


PakPassion.net : Mickey Arthur recently said that your batting reminded him of Sachin Tendulkar. That is quite a compliment isn't it?

Asad Shafiq : To compare me to a player who was the reason I started to play cricket and a player whose videos I would watch all day is truly special for me. It's a very positive message from Mickey for me and it's made me feel very proud. During the Test series in England Mickey was saying to me that he thought technically I am a good batsman and that I could get even better if I batted higher up the order. He always spoke very highly of me in England and that was a real boost for me. I feel that I am improving as a cricketer under the tutelage of Mickey. As a cricketer I'm very happy and proud to be mentioned in the same breath as the great Sachin Tendulkar and I'll take these comments forward with me.


PakPassion.net : What's it been like to work with Grant Flower and do you feel he has helped with some aspects of your batting?

Asad Shafiq : Most certainly. I feel that I have improved technically since I started working with Grant. He's a very hard working and committed coach. He watches the batsmen very closely in practice and in match situations and enjoys discussing the art of batting with us. He's a very detailed coach and an analytical coach who is good at spotting mistakes and is always prepared to help and make suggestions. I honestly feel that I have improved as a batsman since he has become the batting coach.


PakPassion.net : Looking ahead to the West Indies Test series, what are your aims for this particular series?

Asad Shafiq : Our tactics in the UAE are clear and are a tried and tested formula. We look to pile up high scores and then get our spinners to do the business later on in the match. As a unit our batsmen have produced the goods in the last five years and we will be hoping to repeat this. It's challenging for opposition teams to come to the UAE and play against Pakistan because we are used to the conditions and our tactics tend to be successful out there. However you can never write the opposition off and I'm sure the West Indies will present a tough challenge for us.


PakPassion.net : Looking further ahead, the tour Down Under presents you with the challenge of facing the Australians at home for the first time. Are you looking forward to that challenge?

Asad Shafiq : I am so excited about the tour of Australia. When I was about to tour South Africa people said that I will struggle and I proved them wrong. Then this year some critics said that I would fail on the tour of England and once again I proved those people wrong. The way I see Australian wickets is that you get value for your shots and the tour of England has given me a huge lift and I hope that I can go to Australia and perform well there also.


PakPassion.net : What do you wish to achieve as a cricketer before you retire?

Asad Shafiq : I never look too far into the future or set myself any specific targets. I tend to look ahead to the short-term rather than the long-term. My aim has always been to perform well for my country and be consistent. I have always said to myself that I need to maximise my talent and to fully utilise my skills. I don’t want to finish cricket in future and feel that I underachieved. I'm nearing three thousand Test runs but the target I have set myself is to reach seven thousand or more Test runs before I retire.
 
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Good, level-headed interview from Shafiq who's blossoming into a key Test batsman for us. He and Azhar need to take up the mantle of being the two senior pros once Younis and Misbah retire.

I hope this interview also dispels the misconception that some posters have here that Grant Flower hasn't done anything. How about listening to the players who actually work with Grant.

Asad Shafiq : Most certainly. I feel that I have improved technically since I started working with Grant. He's a very hard working and committed coach. He watches the batsmen very closely in practice and in match situations and enjoys discussing the art of batting with us. He's a very detailed coach and an analytical coach who is good at spotting mistakes and is always prepared to help and make suggestions. I honestly feel that I have improved as a batsman since he has become the batting coach.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], no player would ever say the coach does nothing. Also, that's what every coach does, it's about whether it's working or not.

Also, as for Shafiq on LOIs, he say's he's been working hard to improve.

No point of crying now that Mickey Arthur wants him in ODIs and has selected him. The only way forward is to see him play.

He can smash dummy, 120kph attacks on dead pitches in domestics.

However, international cricket is different. He has looked all at sea whenever trying to accelerate in Tests, where there aren't even fielders blocking your runs.

Can he do it in ODIs where it's much more difficult? Let's find out. The TTF cycle is repeating, but let's do it one more time. :shafiq :ruthless
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], no player would ever say the coach does nothing. Also, that's what every coach does, it's about whether it's working or not.

Also, as for Shafiq on LOIs, he say's he's been working hard to improve.

No point of crying now that Mickey Arthur wants him in ODIs and has selected him. The only way forward is to see him play.

He can smash dummy, 120kph attacks on dead pitches in domestics.

However, international cricket is different. He has looked all at sea whenever trying to accelerate in Tests, where there aren't even fielders blocking your runs.

Can he do it in ODIs where it's much more difficult? Let's find out. The TTF cycle is repeating, but let's do it one more time. :shafiq :ruthless
That bit about accelerating in test cricket and failing is not true:
1- he batted in England at a higher strike rate than career S/R
2 - at two down position in the last test match he was siding at a strike rate of 68-70 before slowing down for his century
 
That bit about accelerating in test cricket and failing is not true:
1- he batted in England at a higher strike rate than career S/R
2 - at two down position in the last test match he was siding at a strike rate of 68-70 before slowing down for his century

His high score in Tests- 137, was scored at a strike rate of 90 odd.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], no player would ever say the coach does nothing. Also, that's what every coach does, it's about whether it's working or not.

Indeed and under Grant Flower, Pakistan's Test batting has improved in so many metrics since his appointment in July 2014 if you look at the facts.

  1. Pakistan has the second highest 1st innings batting average out of all teams - 48.52, behind only Australia.
  2. Pakistan has by far the highest 4th innings batting average out of all teams - 35.45.
  3. Pakistan have the best batting average period in Test cricket since Flower's appointment - 40.73 when Pakistan's average runs per wicket was just 28.89 between January 2012 and February 2014.
  4. Pakistan's conversion rate from half-centuries to centuries have been amongst the best in the world too.

This is all not mere coincidence. Even the tail-enders like Yasir Shah, Mohammad Amir, Sohail Khan have shown improvement with the bat during the England tour. Hell even the biggest dud with the bat in the world in Rahat frickin' Ali showed signs of improvements as a batsman (see the Edgbaston 4th innings) and they've all credited Grant Flower for working with them in the nets.

Now you'll reply by arguing, well those batsmen are good anyway and would've performed like this regardless of who was coach.

So why didn't they produce these numbers prior to Flower's appointment, when we failed to win a single Test series for two years and were being bundled out for cheap scores even against Zimbabwe in 2013 ? From any objective POV, Flower deserves credit for contributing to this excellent Pakistani Test batting turnaround.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], I'm happy to let you believe that the isolated case of Pakistan's great Test performance is because of Grant Flower.

Which, in fact, was a continuation of our past performances, we kept getting better and better long before he came on board.

It's like saying Pakistan was able to whitewash England because Mohsin Khan was made the coach.

In a parallel world, we kept getting worse and worse in LOIs, we were on downward spiral before Grant came, and continued to go to the LOWEST spot possible under Grant Flower.

If we go by your logic, we're made the worst in LOIs because of Grant Flower, and the best in Tests because of Grant Flower (batting).

:)
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], I'm happy to let you believe that the isolated case of Pakistan's great Test performance is because of Grant Flower.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] - firstly please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Grant Flower is solely responsible for our Test turnaround, but deserves credit for his contributions in that rise like many Pakistani players have done so publicly, who unlike you, are actually part of the set-up. Also I don't think I need to spell out to an intelligent poster like yourself that two years of consistent batting improvements isn't an "isolated case" of performance.

Which, in fact, was a continuation of our past performances, we kept getting better and better long before he came on board.
:)) We hadn't won a Test series for a period of two years after the England whitewash and were getting bowled out cheaply even by Zimbabwe so what improved batting performances are you on about ? Even on flat UAE decks we were collapsing to cheap scores, notably 99 all out vs South Africa.
It's like saying Pakistan was able to whitewash England because Mohsin Khan was made the coach.
Everybody knows Mohsin Khan contributed zilch other than animated tea sipping in the pavilion. Whereas multiple batsmen have publicly have praised Grant Flower for working with them in the nets and rectifying technical issues.

In a parallel world, we kept getting worse and worse in LOIs, we were on downward spiral before Grant came, and continued to go to the LOWEST spot possible under Grant Flower.

If we go by your logic, we're made the worst in LOIs because of Grant Flower, and the best in Tests because of Grant Flower (batting).
There's a reasoned explanation for this. In Tests he's had the same core group of batsmen to work with, there hasn't been the same chopping and changing like in ODIs, and he's had TIME to work with these batsmen whereas some of our LOI batsmen are in one series, and kicked out the next.

Our ODI form has been terrible for a long time under a multitude of coaches. You have to look at domestic pitches, grassroots coaching, lack of power hitters, substandard fitness (which affects batting), outdated mindsets etc to see why we're behind in ODIs. You think Grant can overturn all this in two years ? Plus coach can only do so much with dimwits such as Shehzad and Akmal, players clearly not cut out for modern ODIs like Azhar, TTFs like Khurram, or flat-footed unfit hacks like Maqsood. That's where selection policy comes into play - and for selectors to actually pick players suited to the format.

Anyway since Cardiff we're gradually seeing an improvement in strike rotation, hopefully our dot ball percentage during middle overs will come down and let's see where we are in white ball cricket in the next 18-24 months.
 
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] - firstly please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Grant Flower is solely responsible for our Test turnaround, but deserves credit for his contributions in that rise like many Pakistani players have done so publicly, who unlike you, are actually part of the set-up. Also I don't think I need to spell out to an intelligent poster like yourself that two years of consistent batting improvements isn't an "isolated case" of performance.


:)) We hadn't won a Test series for a period of two years after the England whitewash and were getting bowled out cheaply even by Zimbabwe so what improved batting performances are you on about ? Even on flat UAE decks we were collapsing to cheap scores, notably 99 all out vs South Africa.

Everybody knows Mohsin Khan contributed zilch other than animated tea sipping in the pavilion. Whereas multiple batsmen have publicly have praised Grant Flower for working with them in the nets and rectifying technical issues.


There's a reasoned explanation for this. In Tests he's had the same core group of batsmen to work with, there hasn't been the same chopping and changing like in ODIs, and he's had TIME to work with these batsmen whereas some of our LOI batsmen are in one series, and kicked out the next.

Our ODI form has been terrible for a long time under a multitude of coaches. You have to look at domestic pitches, grassroots coaching, lack of power hitters, substandard fitness (which affects batting), outdated mindsets etc to see why we're behind in ODIs. You think Grant can overturn all this in two years ? Plus coach can only do so much with dimwits such as Shehzad and Akmal, players clearly not cut out for modern ODIs like Azhar, TTFs like Khurram, or flat-footed unfit hacks like Maqsood. That's where selection policy comes into play - and for selectors to actually pick players suited to the format.

Anyway since Cardiff we're gradually seeing an improvement in strike rotation, hopefully our dot ball percentage during middle overs will come down and let's see where we are in white ball cricket in the next 18-24 months.

Markhor on a roll :)) POTW [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION]

I hope PCB hire Julian Wood to work alongside Grant Flower.

Great stuff PP, wonderful interview. Shafiq will go far, love his attitude.
 
I am seriously impressed by Younis's role in the team. For a man who was constantly struggling for 3 tests and was almost a laughing stock, to take time out and help out a fellow batsman calls for serious selflessness. His own game was a mess, Shafiq had good scores behind him and yet, he took the time out.

Shafiq is not the only one to point that out sbout Younis, from memory.

I like it when Younis is off TV interviews and instead doing his bit for the team, that's for sure :)
 
Lol why are people above taking so many potshots at Mohsin khan.

He makes a damn good cup of tea and who knows what effect it had on our players to see Mohsin serenely sip his chai!

Unfair!
 
A sensible and down to earth guy who is a pleasure to interview.

No big ego, talks sense and isn't interested in the limelight. He just wants to work hard and do his best for his country.

The sort of player a captain loves to have in his side.
 
Good interview and seems level headed

The problem with him has been that he is much better than he thinks he is . I think Mickey is correcting that and making it clear that he is a vital part of the squad and that there are a lot of expectations from him

Too often it seems he is happy to do the minimum to maintain a reputation of a good player but doesn't really bother to put in the performances and do the work which make them be great players.

That is evidenced by the fact that he scores centuries and then immediately gets out and has never gone on to get a daddy ton. I understand that it also has to do with batting at #6 where you don't really get that many opportunities or time to make really big scores. He already had the highest ever centuries in history at that position.

I hope that his promotion is permanent the and that he is briefed on the expectations.

As for his limited overs hopes. I was against it but the whole point of bringing in Mickey Arthur was to improve our limited overs cricket because I'm tests Waqar had already taken us from a poor team in 2014 to the verge of being world number 1. So if Arthur thinks Shafiq can play a role in our ODI revival then you have to give the man that chance.
 
Good interview and seems level headed

The problem with him has been that he is much better than he thinks he is . I think Mickey is correcting that and making it clear that he is a vital part of the squad and that there are a lot of expectations from him

Too often it seems he is happy to do the minimum to maintain a reputation of a good player but doesn't really bother to put in the performances and do the work which make them be great players.

That is evidenced by the fact that he scores centuries and then immediately gets out and has never gone on to get a daddy ton. I understand that it also has to do with batting at #6 where you don't really get that many opportunities or time to make really big scores. He already had the highest ever centuries in history at that position.

I hope that his promotion is permanent the and that he is briefed on the expectations.

As for his limited overs hopes. I was against it but the whole point of bringing in Mickey Arthur was to improve our limited overs cricket because I'm tests Waqar had already taken us from a poor team in 2014 to the verge of being world number 1. So if Arthur thinks Shafiq can play a role in our ODI revival then you have to give the man that chance.

You downplay the impact of playing at number 6. He played at number 4 at oval after a while and promptly scored a century. You don't make 150 batting at 6.
 
Younis Khan's presence has positively impacted Azhar & Shafiq ... The former has even started taking bit of YK's game against spinners in test cricket. The only thing missing are the propensity to score daddy 100s like YK which obviously not everyone can do but the investment in Azhar & Shafiq has started to pay off. One only wishes the same could've been done with Fawad and Umar too instead of treating them differently. Fawad in particular has the same YK like knack to score daddy 100s in domestic FC and even did so on his test debut batting alongside the legend !!

Seriously, YK should continue on past 10k runs till he feels he can't play anymore. No need to retire when you are fit and scoring runs consistently.

Hopefully, Shafiq starts to blossom at 3 in test cricket. Looked great at the Oval.
 
Younis Khan's presence has positively impacted Azhar & Shafiq ... The former has even started taking bit of YK's game against spinners in test cricket. The only thing missing are the propensity to score daddy 100s like YK which obviously not everyone can do but the investment in Azhar & Shafiq has started to pay off. One only wishes the same could've been done with Fawad and Umar too instead of treating them differently. Fawad in particular has the same YK like knack to score daddy 100s in domestic FC and even did so on his test debut batting alongside the legend !!

Seriously, YK should continue on past 10k runs till he feels he can't play anymore. No need to retire when you are fit and scoring runs consistently.

Hopefully, Shafiq starts to blossom at 3 in test cricket. Looked great at the Oval.

Fawad maybe was treated poorly

But Umar was given the golden boy treatment. At some point you have to cut your losses and focus on winning. He failed ever since the NZ debut tour (Aus tour was ok at best but nothing great). Then he was finally dropped after UAE tests and Azhar and Asad grabbed their chance and made runs. What do you suggest? You would have dropped a performing duo for Umar Akmal who had been poor for a while and had been poor in ODIs at that same time?
 
Very informative, this interview.

Isn't the normal, run of the mill type where players give clichéd answers - can clearly see that as you are reading that Shafiq has given a lot of thought into his answers. However, one thing I disagree on and many other posters also do is that AS has the potential to be even better in Tests, for example he says he's happy with averaging 40 in England and would happily average that in NZ and Australia, but IMO given that he doesn't have that particular technical issue anymore and with an added bit of assertiveness, he can average 50 in the Antipodes.

I'm not sure how many Tests we play over the next 5-6 years, I think Shafiq can certainly manage to get 7-8 K runs comfortably, but I think he'll improve even more and go up a notch in terms of average and also century making.
 
Fawad maybe was treated poorly

But Umar was given the golden boy treatment. At some point you have to cut your losses and focus on winning. He failed ever since the NZ debut tour (Aus tour was ok at best but nothing great). Then he was finally dropped after UAE tests and Azhar and Asad grabbed their chance and made runs. What do you suggest? You would have dropped a performing duo for Umar Akmal who had been poor for a while and had been poor in ODIs at that same time?

You do know that Umar has only played a grand total of 1 test match in the UAE right? He wasn't even allowed a proper chance to play in UAE. Azhar & Shafiq were persisted with despite their failures/inconsistency initially in the first 2-3 years or so of their careers. And this is why today they have become pretty good test level batsman because they were allowed to grow from their mistakes. But somehow the same didn't apply to Umar.

He had 1 freak dismissal against Zimbabwe back in 2011 and since has been out of the test team and one can clearly see that it has definitely stagnated his growth as a batsman.

And no I'm not suggesting that they should've dropped Azhar & Shafiq in favor of Umar. What I am suggesting is that they should've allowed Umar the same opportunity in UAE like they did to Azhar & Shafiq before dropping him unfairly. Prior to his dropping he was our 2nd highest scorer on that tough WI test series in WI back in 2011. He outperformed both Azhar & Shafiq on that tour.

All 3 could've easily been played together which they did briefly. But only 2 of the 3 got the opportunity to build confidence at home matches while the other played most of his tests outside of UAE and got dropped for a rather bizarre dismissal.

Anyway, both Fawad and Umar should be in the test squad. They should be the natural successors to YK & Misbah. But having them in the squad and in particular having Fawad in playing XI for next couple of years will enable a smooth transition from the old guard to the new era.
 
You do know that Umar has only played a grand total of 1 test match in the UAE right? He wasn't even allowed a proper chance to play in UAE. Azhar & Shafiq were persisted with despite their failures/inconsistency initially in the first 2-3 years or so of their careers. And this is why today they have become pretty good test level batsman because they were allowed to grow from their mistakes. But somehow the same didn't apply to Umar.

He had 1 freak dismissal against Zimbabwe back in 2011 and since has been out of the test team and one can clearly see that it has definitely stagnated his growth as a batsman.

And no I'm not suggesting that they should've dropped Azhar & Shafiq in favor of Umar. What I am suggesting is that they should've allowed Umar the same opportunity in UAE like they did to Azhar & Shafiq before dropping him unfairly. Prior to his dropping he was our 2nd highest scorer on that tough WI test series in WI back in 2011. He outperformed both Azhar & Shafiq on that tour.

All 3 could've easily been played together which they did briefly. But only 2 of the 3 got the opportunity to build confidence at home matches while the other played most of his tests outside of UAE and got dropped for a rather bizarre dismissal.

Anyway, both Fawad and Umar should be in the test squad. They should be the natural successors to YK & Misbah. But having them in the squad and in particular having Fawad in playing XI for next couple of years will enable a smooth transition from the old guard to the new era.

This is pretty mindless logic

Umar had done nothing at all to suggest that he was equipped for test level post the initial euphoria.

Do you know he has scored one FC century in five years despite playing almost all domestic seasons in that team period? There was nothing in his domestic performances even to merit a recall.
 
This is pretty mindless logic

Umar had done nothing at all to suggest that he was equipped for test level post the initial euphoria.

Do you know he has scored one FC century in five years despite playing almost all domestic seasons in that team period? There was nothing in his domestic performances even to merit a recall.

You are constructing a strawman mate. We are discussing his form at the time he was dropped from the team not what he has done since at the domestic FC level. He had just been the 2nd highest scorer against WI in WI behind Misbah on tough pitches. Yet he got dropped from the team in the subsequent overseas tour to Zimbabwe. Shafiq & Azhar both failed to do much on that tour in WI yet were retained. Had the same been done to Umar, we'd have known for sure what he's made of. Azhar & Shafiq have played vast majority of their tests in UAE which allowed them to develop at test level.

If you can't see the clear double standards from selection committee and team management then there's nothing else to discuss.
 
You are constructing a strawman mate. We are discussing his form at the time he was dropped from the team not what he has done since at the domestic FC level. He had just been the 2nd highest scorer against WI in WI behind Misbah on tough pitches. Yet he got dropped from the team in the subsequent overseas tour to Zimbabwe. Shafiq & Azhar both failed to do much on that tour in WI yet were retained. Had the same been done to Umar, we'd have known for sure what he's made of. Azhar & Shafiq have played vast majority of their tests in UAE which allowed them to develop at test level.

If you can't see the clear double standards from selection committee and team management then there's nothing else to discuss.

Lol he did play on the Zimbabwe tour

There's no double standards

He got the chances. He failed
 
There are similarities in how they stand at the crease. Otherwise, Asad would do well to finish his test career at 10,000 runs.
 
Asad is a good player and I hope he becomes even 1/3rd the batsman Tendulkar was. That itself would be a successful career.
 
One of my favorite bats from Pakistan!

Hope he can score heaps of runs now that he's at #3!!!
 
A good read, he seems to be very well-spoken.

Hoping to see him bat with more confidence and authority at #3. Needs to have more faith in himself and his abilities with the bat.
 
the funny thing is people come here and think they are professional selectors or something, there is a reason why he is rated highly by number of foreign coaches and past and present players around the world.

I think he is good, just needs the confidence...
 
What was really beneficial was the army camp in Pakistan and then the fact that we arrived in England a few weeks ahead of the Test series. These two things when combined meant that mentally and physically we were ready for the challenge of facing England. The training in England before the Test series was a major boost to the confidence of all the squad and it helped paint a clear picture of what to expect and also helped us get used to playing with the Dukes cricket ball and adjusting to how that ball would behave in English conditions.

And we have posters here saying pre tour preparations are utterly useless.
 
Asad Shafiq looks to me as the Pakistani version of Ajinkya Rahane and vice versa. They have too many similarities.

Both diminutive batsmen. Both technically correct. Both like to stay off the limelight on and off the field. Both are from the batting hubs of their respective countries. And also, both suck in LOIs.:inzi

Both are my favourite batsmen as well because of the aesthetic quotient of their knocks.
 
He looks like such an accomplished batsman but just like Kohli in Tests, he maybe is not mentally built for ODIs? Hope I am proven wrong.
 
Pakistan needs more of this type of cricketer. The quiet guy who just goes about his business in a professional manner. Works hard and never lets his standards drop.

Who knows, maybe if some of the other 'superstars' had the same mentality, they'd have performed better for Pakistan than they actually have done.
 
Pakistan needs more of this type of cricketer. The quiet guy who just goes about his business in a professional manner. Works hard and never lets his standards drop.

Who knows, maybe if some of the other 'superstars' had the same mentality, they'd have performed better for Pakistan than they actually have done.

Sweet, Concise and as relevant as it gets. I'd like to mention these posters for this post.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=141718]LowKiiSavage[/MENTION]
@MSRN [MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION] [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] [MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION]
@Makhor [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION]
 
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Sweet, Concise and as relevant as it gets. I'd like to mention these posters for this post.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=141718]LowKiiSavage[/MENTION]
@MSRN [MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION] [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] [MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION]
@Makhor [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION]

Is it because I'm neither sweet, concise, and as relevant it gets or is it because I generally like the professionalism associated with Asad Shafiq?

I'll take a selfie if you say its the former :))
 
Well done Shafiq.

Pakistanis wont praise your abilities as much as you deserve(because you dont belong from "there") and PCB will keep you on guard for selection, however the honest world out there which is unbiased notices your potential and performance amongst other garbage batsmen in the lineup who are undeservingly, constantly hyped around.

Keep up the good work. Keep fighting for your place in ODIs and keep performing in tests.
 
Hope he takes his game to another level batting at #3. Can go down as a great batsman for Pakistan.
 
Predicting a career best series for AS vs WI thus far.
 
Great chance for him to get his maiden 200 in this series and push that average close to 50.

He needs to justify the promotion to #3 by getting some big hundreds.
 
Really needs to become more vocal, no point batting like laxman but being as shy as a pre 2007 inzimam
He could really bring on the likes of Babar and Sami if he steps up a little
 
Sweet, Concise and as relevant as it gets. I'd like to mention these posters for this post.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=141718]LowKiiSavage[/MENTION]
@MSRN [MENTION=137804]msb314[/MENTION] [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] [MENTION=253]the Great Khan[/MENTION]
@Makhor [MENTION=133726]GoUgandaCranes[/MENTION]

All I have to say regarding this matter is that Shafiq is a fantastic test batsman who has the potential to be an ATG in that format.

But that is about it.
 
why have you mentioned me? I have supported sahfiq since I first saw him burst into our squad. Yo can check my posts about him. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick with regards to your post? elaborate.

Same. [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION]. Explain. ye kiya hai? :inti
 
Expectations are high from him but we need to understand that number 3 isn't exactly an easy position to bat at and we should be ready for a couple of failures before he adjusts himself to the new position. Best of luck to him.
 
He looks like such an accomplished batsman but just like Kohli in Tests, he maybe is not mentally built for ODIs? Hope I am proven wrong.

Take it easy bhai saheb. Kohli has two double hundreds from the last two test series he has played :D
 
I personally think it is a mistake to put him at #3 when he has been doing great at #6. Why not just put Babar at #3 in Younis's absence? He did score those 3 back to back ODI hundreds at #3 isn't it? Why fix something that is not broken?
 
Huge series for him. And a huge test for him. I am actually happy that fist first test at number 3 (he came at number 4 at the oval) is a day night. We will lose the first wicket early.
No disprrspect meant to the windies but shafiq needs a series with about 400 runs. He needs all the confidence he can muster before getting to Australia
 
Come on Asad, get that big daddy hundred this series! Will be a great confidence booster before NZ and Australia.
 
Really needs to become more vocal, no point batting like laxman but being as shy as a pre 2007 inzimam
He could really bring on the likes of Babar and Sami if he steps up a little

I disagree.

The 'vocal' players are currently sat watching this Test match from their living room.
 
I personally think it is a mistake to put him at #3 when he has been doing great at #6. Why not just put Babar at #3 in Younis's absence? He did score those 3 back to back ODI hundreds at #3 isn't it? Why fix something that is not broken?

Plan was for Shafiq to be #3 since the Oval Test against England, best stick to that now. He is happy playing there and Arthur wants him there.
 
I need to find my post which i wrote 3-4 years ago where i said shafiq bats a bit like tendulkar . lets not talk about quality here. Thats not what i meant.
 
The commentators were comparing his stance with Sarfaraz' and you notice how balanced he is. Technique is very much there, needs to bat a bit up the order.
 
He needs more big innings and he has 4 chances to prove that on this tour
 
Didn't even realize he is already 30 till I read comment the other day

Does Pak have regulation for player to be at least 30 before they get permanent run?
 
Didn't even realize he is already 30 till I read comment the other day

Does Pak have regulation for player to be at least 30 before they get permanent run?

He's already played over 50 Tests.
 
Didn't even realize he is already 30 till I read comment the other day

Does Pak have regulation for player to be at least 30 before they get permanent run?

Debuted over 6 years ago in his mid 20s.
 
It's been a year since this interview and I can assure you no one is taking these two names in the same sentence anymore.

Asad and Azhar have literally been polar opposites in terms of career progression. Very disappointing.
 
It's been a year since this interview and I can assure you no one is taking these two names in the same sentence anymore.

Asad and Azhar have literally been polar opposites in terms of career progression. Very disappointing.

Well, the credit goes to the clueless coach that we have. He's the reason why the comparisons started.
 
Well, the credit goes to the clueless coach that we have. He's the reason why the comparisons started.

Ever since he compared Shafiq to Tendulkar that was he kiss of death for him

And ever since he compared Babar to Kohli, Babar's performances have nosedived
 
Tendulkar will be feeling ashamed to have his name mentioned in the same breath as Shafiq.
 
^ he also compared Sharjeel to Warner :))
 
I thought only pak fans hype their players but their coach mickey arthur is in an all together different league in hyping players
 
Why did you do this, Mickey? Couldn't you see Asad was gonna become a superstar had you not hyped him.
 
People often disregard the longevity of Tendulkar. But, here's the example. Anyone can show the glimpse of a Tendulkar. But to sustain it even to half the years that Tendulkar did, is another game.
 
Ever since he compared Shafiq to Tendulkar that was he kiss of death for him

And ever since he compared Babar to Kohli, Babar's performances have nosedived


He compared Babar to Kohli 1 year ago and shortly after Babar got his 1st ODI century. Babar has struggled in tests but done fine in ODIs. The comparison was unnecessary from Arthur but just wanted to expose your agenda against Arthur.
 
He compared Babar to Kohli 1 year ago and shortly after Babar got his 1st ODI century. Babar has struggled in tests but done fine in ODIs. The comparison was unnecessary from Arthur but just wanted to expose your agenda against Arthur.

i dont need to have an agenda against the coach with the worst record in Pakistan cricket history
 
It's been a year since this interview and I can assure you no one is taking these two names in the same sentence anymore.

Asad and Azhar have literally been polar opposites in terms of career progression. Very disappointing.

He has a chance at redemption tomorrow. A century or even a half century would go a long way in helping Pakistan square the series. Big day tomorrow for a lot of people.
 
People often disregard the longevity of Tendulkar. But, here's the example. Anyone can show the glimpse of a Tendulkar. But to sustain it even to half the years that Tendulkar did, is another game.

Word! Showing brilliance in 10-20 games is easy. Doing it day in day out for 15+ years... That takes talent and hard work! Absolute genius!
 
There will only ever be one Teenda. Dont think Shafiq has even one MOM award which is proof of his lack of impact in games
 
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