I declare my retirement as a Cricket fan

[kaayal]

So if the tweet doesn’t suit our thought process he is not our hero?
A Very BJP logic..

No but when suddenly his patriotism arises because of Rihanna’s post is what i think is wrong. These protesters have been there for past few months. Why does he suddenly feels so threatened now?? Or he is just being a ******* of the establishment?

 

[kaayal]

Just checked Twitter. Sachin is trending and there is a ton of abuse going his way.

How the mighty has fallen.

Never thought i would see this day. I feel so bad to see him getting all this abuse.

Why did you do it Sachin?

You were the chosen one!

Many of us equated success and excellence of a mere sportsman in his craft to righteousness. Exception is only Mohammad Ali.

 

[Itachi]

It ain't about localized or national issue.

Issue is how the govt has dealt with it.

One has to be terribly stupid to do propaganda using IT cell while appearing to engage in dialogues.

Also this tussle started months before the farmers even reached Delhi.

Cricketers using the word "amicable" and copy pasting similar messages is just sad and cringeworthy.

And funny part is that BJP thinks they are being smart lol.

I am ignoring the public picture as it will become less and less relevant as time will go by. CAA was a bigger movement in a much bigger scale but the govt handled it. The twitter wars goes to a peak and then picks up another trend on another issue.

What matters is, in the long run, you will have to voice through the system while remaining inside the system.

The localization is important because if the farmer protest can't attract support from the rest of the country, then it will be a failure since if you can't bring the same from other regions, the wish of the majority will be granted which is, support to the bill.

 

[BreadPakoda]

What various cricketers have actually said:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India’s sovereignty cannot be compromised. External forces can be spectators but not participants. <br>Indians know India and should decide for India. Let's remain united as a nation.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaTogether</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaAgainstPropaganda?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaAgainstPropaganda</a></p>— Sachin Tendulkar (@sachin_rt) <a href="https://twitter.com/sachin_rt/status/1356959311075934215?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let us all stay united in this hour of disagreements. Farmers are an integral part of our country and I'm sure an amicable solution will be found between all parties to bring about peace and move forward together. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaTogether</a></p>— Virat Kohli (@imVkohli) <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1357016154108166144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There’s no issue that cannot be resolved if we stand together as one. Let’s remain united and work towards resolving our internal issues <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaTogether</a></p>— Ajinkya Rahane (@ajinkyarahane88) <a href="https://twitter.com/ajinkyarahane88/status/1357021947570253831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India has always been stronger when we all stand together and finding a solution is the need of the hour. Our farmers play an important role in our nation’s well being and I am sure everyone will play their roles to find a solution TOGETHER. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaTogether</a> </p>— Rohit Sharma (@ImRo45) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImRo45/status/1357029409593561088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Agriculture is a very important part of the machinery of the Indian economic system. Farmers are the backbone of any country’s ecosystem. This is an internal matter which I’m sure will be resolved through dialogue. Jai Hind! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaStandsTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaStandsTogether</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaAgainstPropoganda?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaAgainstPropoganda</a> </p>— Ravi Shastri (@RaviShastriOfc) <a href="https://twitter.com/RaviShastriOfc/status/1356964076878987266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As the world's largest democracy, India is more than capable of taking her internal issues to amicable solutions. Onwards and upwards. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaTogether</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaAgainstPropaganda?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaAgainstPropaganda</a></p>— Anil Kumble (@anilkumble1074) <a href="https://twitter.com/anilkumble1074/status/1356980792103063552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We as a country have issues to resolve today and will have issues to resolve tomorrow as well, but that doesn't mean we create a divide or get perturbed by external forces. Everything can be resolved through amicable and unbiased dialogue. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaAgainstPropaganda?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaAgainstPropaganda</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaTogether?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaTogether</a></p>— Suresh Raina (@ImRaina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImRaina/status/1356977153791971332?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Most of these tweets are very balanced.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Interesting to note that SRT, Raina, Shastri, and Kumble used the India against propaganda hashtags and the rest chose to skip it.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I am ignoring the public picture as it will become less and less relevant as time will go by. CAA was a bigger movement in a much bigger scale but the govt handled it. The twitter wars goes to a peak and then picks up another trend on another issue.

What matters is, in the long run, you will have to voice through the system while remaining inside the system.

The localization is important because if the farmer protest can't attract support from the rest of the country, then it will be a failure since if you can't bring the same from other regions, the wish of the majority will be granted which is, support to the bill.

Govt didn't handle CAA.

It got lucky with covid coming.

Thats another protest coming up in the future.

Its not about local or national anymore. Everything this BJP does will be amplified moving forward.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Most of these tweets are very balanced.

They "look" balanced.

Timing and context is everything.

Not that I believe these are the views of the cricketers per se.

 

[Slog]

Shame to see cricketers esp Sachin of all people being a shill

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Cricketers saying that the issue needs to be resolved by sitting and discussing is wrong? You know that if someone like Sachin tweets, the rest will follow to give their opinion.

These guys could have easily kept quiet. But they decided to voice their opinion and asked for an amicable solution. I don't see anything wrong with it. They never said that Farmers are wrong or BJP is great and Congress is a dirty party.

Yeah Akshay Kumar and saina nehwal tweeting the exact same tweet is voicing their opinion

Cricketers tweeting the same (saying nothing really) while using the same hash tag is voicing their opinion.

Them being silent all this while and then suddenly tweeting out of the blue after Rihanna, is voicing their opinion.

Read between the lines.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Most of these tweets are very balanced.

Note the hashtag #IndiaAgainstPropaganda. Context is everything - these guys are basically saying “it’s an internal matter, how the Indian government deals with the situation is fine, and no one from the outside world should stand with the farmers — if you show solidarity, it’s western propaganda”.

It looks balanced but imagine during the George Floyd protests someone said “blacks and whites should get together for an amicable solution” while the police was shelling black protestors on the streets. Similarly “Kashmiris and the government should get together for an amicable resolution #JaiHind” etc.

 

[JaDed]

No but when suddenly his patriotism arises because of Rihanna’s post is what i think is wrong. These protesters have been there for past few months. Why does he suddenly feels so threatened now?? Or he is just being a ******* of the establishment?

So its the timing thats the issue? There are video of Sachin with Bal Thackeray too and that of the criminal Sathya Sai baba.. I can go on and on..

He didn’t comment anything on the republic day incident either.. so why does it matter now?

 

[guna]

Note the hashtag #IndiaAgainstPropaganda. Context is everything - these guys are basically saying “it’s an internal matter, how the Indian government deals with the situation is fine, and no one from the outside world should stand with the farmers — if you show solidarity, it’s western propaganda”.

It looks balanced but imagine during the George Floyd protests someone said “blacks and whites should get together for an amicable solution” while the police was shelling black protestors on the streets. Similarly “Kashmiris and the government should get together for an amicable resolution #JaiHind” etc.

Foreigners - India is oppressing farmers. We need to take a look at it. (Freedom of speech)
Indians - You have no idea about this issue. Please mind your own business (Freedom of speech)

I do not see any issue here. Every dog can bark. Both Swadeshi and Videshi.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Foreigners - India is oppressing farmers. We need to take a look at it. (Freedom of speech)
Indians - You have no idea about this issue. Please mind your own business (Freedom of speech)

I do not see any issue here. Every dog can bark. Both Swadeshi and Videshi.

Have to agree with this. Freedom of speech goes both ways. As long as no one's instigating violence, they are free to take a stand and say what they want to. Disagreement is part and parcel of democracy.

 

[BreadPakoda]

For me, SRT is one of the best batsmen ever but I was never inspired by his personal life or personality. So doesn't change anything.

 

[BreadPakoda]

They "look" balanced.

Timing and context is everything.

Not that I believe these are the views of the cricketers per se.

At least they look balanced. My expectations these days are very low.

And the Rihannas and Gretas are getting their scripts too. I don't believe they have done any due diligence before writing those tweets. But they are writing. So someone's influencing them too.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Foreigners - India is oppressing farmers. We need to take a look at it. (Freedom of speech)
Indians - You have no idea about this issue. Please mind your own business (Freedom of speech)

I do not see any issue here. Every dog can bark. Both Swadeshi and Videshi.

Second one is not freedom of speech in the strict sense that they're not really saying anything. They're telling others to stop speaking (gaslighting and calling it propaganda rather than actually discussing the problem intelligently). For example, if these guys said something like "I support the BJP" rather than "this is Western Propaganda", it would be freedom of speech. Instead they're really only issuing their own form of propaganda since they aren't analyzing the issue itself.

Secondly, in the case that people say that they support the BJP's decisions, though I won't have any issue on the grounds of freedom of speech (Sachin and others are entitled to their opinions) but I can however make informed judgments about their character and develop my opinion of them as people I disagree with on political matters, and matters of morality.

I believe that is where [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] is coming from: Sachin is free to say what he wants, but as his childhood hero, he had an idealistic image of Sachin as this perfect individual - that he is not. Sometimes, it takes guts to stand up against injustice and see behind the veil that society and government can project. Many Indian celebrities either lack this awareness (in which case I feel sorry for them and it's not their fault they are complicit) or they do have this awareness but lack the spine to have a piece of their mind.

Sachin is one of the most influential guys in the entire Indian subcontinent. He is treated as a bhagwan - his voice matters. To have him turn into "just another celebrity who maintains a very specific image", can be very hurtful for any fan.

Btw don't think anyone on this thread is running the freedom of speech argument and Sachin should be silenced or something. So don't know why you're bringing that up.

 

[Technics 1210]

SRT scored more runs cos he played more matches. Nothing special about this.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

At least they look balanced. My expectations these days are very low.

And the Rihannas and Gretas are getting their scripts too. I don't believe they have done any due diligence before writing those tweets. But they are writing. So someone's influencing them too.

Yeah but their fundamental philosophy is simple:

Allow peaceful protests and stop dehumanizing them

They haven't dug into the nitty gritty details and as CC pointed out, some things that farmers do, go against Greta's belief.

Doesn't make her dumb cos her stance was for the bigger picture.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

At least they look balanced. My expectations these days are very low.

And the Rihannas and Gretas are getting their scripts too. I don't believe they have done any due diligence before writing those tweets. But they are writing. So someone's influencing them too.

You're right, everyone's getting a script. But one set of people are using that script to stand with protestors (whether you agree or disagree with the farmers) and the other set of people is using that script to pretend nothing's going on ("internal matter, amicable resolution, we are united #jaihind") - that's the difference.

Also, these scripts are rarely, or never, posted on Twitter and other social media platforms without the consent of the person whose handle it is. Sachin fully agrees with every word of his Tweet (unless he's getting threats behind the scenes from BJP or something lol) and Rihanna fully agrees with every word that is being put out on her Twitter handle - I fully suspect Rihanna wrote her own tweet, and had it edited by her PR team.

Also, neither of Rihanna nor Greta have their political opinions influenced by their governments. A lot of these cricketers/Bollywood celebrities are at risk of losing their jobs due to the BJP's strong connections in Mumbai and with Mukesh Ambani. I don't envy them at all, and other than specific psychos like Kangana Ranaut, the rest of them are basically toeing the line. That's why I still have lots of respect for these cricketers.

But in context of the OP, it's a bitter pill to swallow - either SRT is just another mortal toeing the line, or he continues to be a god - just not the one you thought he was.

 

[BreadPakoda]

SRT scored more runs cos he played more matches. Nothing special about this.

I was looking forward to your post in this thread and I am now a bit surprised. Weren't you one of those who claim that "left looneys" throw a sissy fit when others express their opinions? SRT is doing just that - sharing something that he believes in. Causing no harm really. And the left is up against him. So I'd expected you to defend him like you defend Trump and his likes.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I was looking forward to your post in this thread and I am now a bit surprised. Weren't you one of those who claim that "left looneys" throw a sissy fit when others express their opinions? SRT is doing just that - sharing something that he believes in. Causing no harm really. And the left is up against him. So I'd expected you to defend him like you defend Trump and his likes.

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Sixerr...

 

[Technics 1210]

I was looking forward to your post in this thread and I am now a bit surprised. Weren't you one of those who claim that "left looneys" throw a sissy fit when others express their opinions? SRT is doing just that - sharing something that he believes in. Causing no harm really. And the left is up against him. So I'd expected you to defend him like you defend Trump and his likes.

SRT isn't a looney left, he's a right wing supporter.

For the record I never said lefty looney throw a hissy fit when others express their opinion, I did say the looney left cannot except an alternate opinion. Big difference.

 

[BreadPakoda]

You're right, everyone's getting a script. But one set of people are using that script to stand with protestors (whether you agree or disagree with the farmers) and the other set of people is using that script to pretend nothing's going on ("internal matter, amicable resolution, we are united #jaihind") - that's the difference.

Also, these scripts are rarely, or never, posted on Twitter and other social media platforms without the consent of the person whose handle it is. Sachin fully agrees with every word of his Tweet (unless he's getting threats behind the scenes from BJP or something lol) and Rihanna fully agrees with every word that is being put out on her Twitter handle - I fully suspect Rihanna wrote her own tweet, and had it edited by her PR team.

Also, neither of Rihanna nor Greta have their political opinions influenced by their governments. A lot of these cricketers/Bollywood celebrities are at risk of losing their jobs due to the BJP's strong connections in Mumbai and with Mukesh Ambani. I don't envy them at all, and other than specific psychos like Kangana Ranaut, the rest of them are basically toeing the line. That's why I still have lots of respect for these cricketers.

But in context of the OP, it's a bitter pill to swallow - either SRT is just another mortal toeing the line, or he continues to be a god - just not the one you thought he was.

No one should consider another human being as their God. If that's what the OP did, he was always in for a heartbreak.

Political affiliation or not, both parties have their agenda and I don't see them differently.

Greta shared a tool kit too which I believe she later deleted.

https://www.dw.com/en/greta-thunberg-under-fire-for-tweeting-about-indian-farmers-*******/a-56458306

I may disagree with SRT and likes but as long as they are not causing harm/instigating violence or lying, I am absolutely ok with whatever they post.

 

[Technics 1210]

Foreigner money is all cool in India, but not foreign opinions.

Subservient.

 

[BreadPakoda]

SRT isn't a looney left, he's a right wing supporter.

For the record I never said lefty looney throw a hissy fit when others express their opinion, I did say the looney left cannot except an alternate opinion. Big difference.

I didn't mean SRT is part of the looney left. I meant the looney left is up against him.

That may have got mixed up. Wrote it in a hurry, getting into a call.

 

[Technics 1210]

No one outside the cricket fraternity really knows about SRT; Coca Cola is more famous/popular.

 

[Technics 1210]

I didn't mean SRT is part of the looney left. I meant the looney left is up against him.

That may have got mixed up. Wrote it in a hurry, getting into a call.

You def have it mixed up; I have posted a number of times in this thread.

Still doesn't change the fact SRT supports a right wing terrorist ideology.

 

[guna]

Second one is not freedom of speech in the strict sense that they're not really saying anything. They're telling others to stop speaking (gaslighting and calling it propaganda rather than actually discussing the problem intelligently). For example, if these guys said something like "I support the BJP" rather than "this is Western Propaganda", it would be freedom of speech. Instead they're really only issuing their own form of propaganda since they aren't analyzing the issue itself.

Secondly, in the case that people say that they support the BJP's decisions, though I won't have any issue on the grounds of freedom of speech (Sachin and others are entitled to their opinions) but I can however make informed judgments about their character and develop my opinion of them as people I disagree with on political matters, and matters of morality.

I believe that is where [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] is coming from: Sachin is free to say what he wants, but as his childhood hero, he had an idealistic image of Sachin as this perfect individual - that he is not. Sometimes, it takes guts to stand up against injustice and see behind the veil that society and government can project. Many Indian celebrities either lack this awareness (in which case I feel sorry for them and it's not their fault they are complicit) or they do have this awareness but lack the spine to have a piece of their mind.

Sachin is one of the most influential guys in the entire Indian subcontinent. He is treated as a bhagwan - his voice matters. To have him turn into "just another celebrity who maintains a very specific image", can be very hurtful for any fan.

Btw don't think anyone on this thread is running the freedom of speech argument and Sachin should be silenced or something. So don't know why you're bringing that up.

You call me a thief. I say to you to stop calling me thief and mind your own business. Anybody can say anything to anyone as long as it is not instigating violence on anyone. Not hard to understand isn't it?

 

[JaDed]

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ar-netizens-flock-to-sharapovas-wall-7175013/

Upset with Tendulkar, netizens flock to Sharapova’s wall: ‘Sorry for criticising you when you said didn’t know him’
Maria Sharapova’s social media pages saw hundreds of messages in Malayalam, apologising for railing against her in 2015.


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lol

 

[Slog]

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ar-netizens-flock-to-sharapovas-wall-7175013/

Upset with Tendulkar, netizens flock to Sharapova’s wall: ‘Sorry for criticising you when you said didn’t know him’
Maria Sharapova’s social media pages saw hundreds of messages in Malayalam, apologising for railing against her in 2015.


——————————————-

lol

Lol I remember this time. Fun days. That thread went on for pages and Sachin had to come out and say it’s ok if she doesn’t know she doesn’t follow cricket.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

No one should consider another human being as their God.

It was a figure of speech. We all have our idols, that’s why it’s so heartbreaking. Like you said, I’m absolutely okay with him saying whatever he wants to say too, i.e the act of speech but that does not mean I am okay with what he’s saying i.e the speech itself.

Freedom of speech is irrelevant here as no one is saying SRT shouldn’t have said what he said - people are just expressing their disappointment.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

You call me a thief. I say to you to stop calling me thief and mind your own business. Anybody can say anything to anyone as long as it is not instigating violence on anyone. Not hard to understand isn't it?

What are you talking about? I’m on your side here. I can indeed say anything to you and the act itself of speech is fine - I agree. But that doesn’t mean the contents of the speech are fine. It’s not right to call you a thief if you aren’t a thief.

And if we were close friends, you’d be hurt by me doing so. Similarly, millions of Punjabis (and others) who looked up to SRT are now extremely hurt that he didn’t stand up for them in their time of need, but rather looked the other way.

This OP is an emotional post, not a political attack on SRT and a demand for him to be silenced. [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION] is talking about his personal hurt — not sure why you are getting your pants in a jiffy.

 

[PakLFC]

Then you have no idea, mate. I know the conversations people have in real life, both old and young. I've seen the messages spread on WhatsApp and Facebook groups. I know how people think. Modi enjoys big support. They think he's doing great for the country. Just like Sachin Tendulkar, he's almost a God-like figure in the eyes of many people in the sense that he can do no wrong. And even in the case of the farm laws, they support the Modi government and not the protesting farmers.

Whats your point? I know how people think as well, you're not the only one. So are you a Modi or Congress supporter? Either way Modi is the one in power and he isn't gonna back down which means trouble for the protesters. Prove me wrong by ending the protests then I'll shut up!. I am not really too sure what your point is or what you are trying to say?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

I'm not sure what Pakistanis think they gain but nonetheless, if kalistan movement was considered benign in India, this is most certainly a proxy battle going in here

 

[Suleiman]

I know the wounds are still tender brother, but I always got questionable vibes from Sachin. Sad to see myself proven right.

 

[pillionrider]

He didn’t comment anything on the republic day incident either.. so why does it matter now?

He's not Muhammad Ali no....

 

[kaayal]

He's not Muhammad Ali no....

Don’t get me wrong. Sachin is a great batsman, extraordinarily gifted, holds some batting records, they will hold for a while.

But never compare him and Ali in the same breath . Ali once an Olympic champion, throws his medal into the river for political reasons. Then converts to Islam and consorts with Malcolm X. Becomes the world champion. Drafted for the war but refuses to go, "no Vietnamese called me a ******" . Stripped of his titles, can't fight in US, almost goes to jail, legal battles. Vilified as a traitor. Fights outside the US. Becomes world champion again. And the mountain finally comes to Ali.


Now that's transcending sports and a real Champion that we can all look up to.

 

[King_Kohli]

pseudo siculars , lieberals and Pappu army cant digest.
Such a low life fellas.... Get well soon

 

[pillionrider]

OP's bringing his mastery to Timepass to compete with [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION].

Sachin made a foolish statement. But making him out to be some kind of Kangana or Arnab is )

 

[pillionrider]

Don’t get me wrong. Sachin is a great batsman, extraordinarily gifted, holds some batting records, they will hold for a while.

But never compare him and Ali in the same breath . Ali once an Olympic champion, throws his medal into the river for political reasons. Then converts to Islam and consorts with Malcolm X. Becomes the world champion. Drafted for the war but refuses to go, "no Vietnamese called me a ******" . Stripped of his titles, can't fight in US, almost goes to jail, legal battles. Vilified as a traitor. Fights outside the US. Becomes world champion again. And the mountain finally comes to Ali.


Now that's transcending sports and a real Champion that we can all look up to.

The most important of them all

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Its tough to be a superstar, you can't say anything without offending one section of your fans.

If Sachin posted this then it definitely means that he believes in this, if this was a paid/forced campaign then other greats like Dhoni,VVS Laxman and Ashwin would have joined too.

Sachin was always a right wing supporter and so was Kohli, you can easily predict that if you follow them closely.

Similarly Vvs, Ashwin and Dravid are surely left wing supporters.

Next time don't follow your superstars based on political beliefs and definitely don't make them Gods.

 

[JaDed]

Don’t get me wrong. Sachin is a great batsman, extraordinarily gifted, holds some batting records, they will hold for a while.

But never compare him and Ali in the same breath . Ali once an Olympic champion, throws his medal into the river for political reasons. Then converts to Islam and consorts with Malcolm X. Becomes the world champion. Drafted for the war but refuses to go, "no Vietnamese called me a ******" . Stripped of his titles, can't fight in US, almost goes to jail, legal battles. Vilified as a traitor. Fights outside the US. Becomes world champion again. And the mountain finally comes to Ali.


Now that's transcending sports and a real Champion that we can all look up to.

I hope every woman gets a husband like Ali who converts to “Nation of Islam “ and the women would sing praises about his attitude and highlight his righteous behavior alone.

Wish we judge all famous personalities along the lines we agree with.

 

[pillionrider]

Similarly Vvs, Ashwin and Dravid are surely left wing supporters.

lol Dravid has been accused in the past when he attended some Suryanamaskara thing organised by the RSS. He was branded right-wing back then. Anyone who has dabbled with the namaskara knows more often than not, it's taught at the very least in a building owned by the RSS

 

[King_Kohli]

Are Communist cadres, Congress supporters and Islamic trolls behind apology campaign to Sharapova?

Amidst all the events that are currently occurring in India, tennis star Maria Sharapova took to Facebook to put out a new post. The Keralites, who seems to spend a lot of free time on the social media platform to spew venom against nationalist forces in the country, did not miss out on the opportunity.

Several social media users flooded her timeline with a series of apology claiming that they intended to regret their behaviour of abusing her back in 2013 and standing in support of Sachin Tendulkar.

As we looked into the thousands of comments posted on Sharapova’s timeline, it was clearly visible that a co-ordinated campaign was initiated to target Indian sporting icons, especially Sachin Tendulkar after he extended his support. The social media users chose Sharapova’s timeline to show their hatred towards Sachin Tendulkar.

Most of the comments on the timeline are put out by Communist workers, Congress party cadres, and many Islamic trolls from Kerala.

https://www.opindia.com/2021/02/ker...upporting-india-by-saying-sorry-to-sharapova/

 

[King_Kohli]

 

[King_Kohli]

Clear case of pre planned attack from Pseudp siculars.
Hail siculars .))

 

[King_Kohli]

 

[guna]

Don’t get me wrong. Sachin is a great batsman, extraordinarily gifted, holds some batting records, they will hold for a while.

But never compare him and Ali in the same breath . Ali once an Olympic champion, throws his medal into the river for political reasons. Then converts to Islam and consorts with Malcolm X. Becomes the world champion. Drafted for the war but refuses to go, "no Vietnamese called me a ******" . Stripped of his titles, can't fight in US, almost goes to jail, legal battles. Vilified as a traitor. Fights outside the US. Becomes world champion again. And the mountain finally comes to Ali.


Now that's transcending sports and a real Champion that we can all look up to.

What has that got do with Ali being considered a great?

Sachin and Ali are great in their own sport. There should not be any comparisons. Ali got fame for his defiance of white racism. He is very outspoken unlike Sachin who is not known for any reason other than Cricket.

 

[guna]

pseudo siculars , lieberals and Pappu army cant digest.
Such a low life fellas.... Get well soon

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What has Malayalees got against Sachin?

 

[Bigboii]

What has that got do with Ali being considered a great?

Sachin and Ali are great in their own sport. There should not be any comparisons. Ali got fame for his defiance of white racism. He is very outspoken unlike Sachin who is not known for any reason other than Cricket.

Not just white racism many other things Vietnam, diplomacy, trash talk, witty
People in US adore him regardless of color actually If you compare Ali to anyone the older gentleman actually get furious for suggesting something like that and this happens regardless of color

 

[JaDed]

Not just white racism many other things Vietnam, diplomacy, trash talk, witty
People in US adore him regardless of color actually If you compare Ali to anyone the older gentleman actually get furious for suggesting something like that and this happens regardless of color

He survived the non-social media era, do you think he could had survived the meeto era?

Also Ali was from the race that were discriminated, the anger in him was from childhood, how can he be compared to anyone?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I don't think you quite understand the reality between the farmers' protests and Tendulkar's role.

1. Tendulkar, Kolhi, Shastri, Gambhir etc. tweeted to support the Indian government following tweets by foreign airheads like Rhianna, Greta Thunberg and Mia Khalifa (if you don't know what she is famous for, I suggest you google her name). Perfectly legitimate to tell foreign airheads to keep out of stuff they don't understand.

2. The farmers' protests is about rich farmers wanting to keep the existing system of subsidies in place, and is supported by rich and politically powerful farm lobbies in Punjab, Maharashtra etc. The farm lobby in Maharashtra is dominated by Marathas like Sharad Pawar, and Tendulkar is a Konkani Brahmin. So he probably is inclined to view the matter differently.

Not sure why did you say that. What she does for her living or in spare time has nothing to do with her opinion.

 

[JaDed]

Are Communist cadres, Congress supporters and Islamic trolls behind apology campaign to Sharapova?

Amidst all the events that are currently occurring in India, tennis star Maria Sharapova took to Facebook to put out a new post. The Keralites, who seems to spend a lot of free time on the social media platform to spew venom against nationalist forces in the country, did not miss out on the opportunity.

Several social media users flooded her timeline with a series of apology claiming that they intended to regret their behaviour of abusing her back in 2013 and standing in support of Sachin Tendulkar.

As we looked into the thousands of comments posted on Sharapova’s timeline, it was clearly visible that a co-ordinated campaign was initiated to target Indian sporting icons, especially Sachin Tendulkar after he extended his support. The social media users chose Sharapova’s timeline to show their hatred towards Sachin Tendulkar.

Most of the comments on the timeline are put out by Communist workers, Congress party cadres, and many Islamic trolls from Kerala.

https://www.opindia.com/2021/02/ker...upporting-india-by-saying-sorry-to-sharapova/

Anyone sharing OpIndia as a source should’t talk about propaganda

 

[kaayal]

The most important of them all

To each their own. Islam is important for me but may not be for others . We don’t need to agree on everything.

 

[Bigboii]

He survived the non-social media era, do you think he could had survived the meeto era?

Also Ali was from the race that were discriminated, the anger in him was from childhood, how can he be compared to anyone?

In me too era he would have changed his ways
That generation was truly horrific in the way they treated women I don't think they're a lot of celebrities of the time who were decent
maybe the culture of the time he was living in was such that they considered it normal
tbh I don't judge him like that cause in new eras we have the hegemony of time on our side so we can judge them from our own perspectives but the era they were living in was different thier education, brought up was different so we are very much in a hegemonic place to judge them
We stack all the rules against them without giving them the privilege of education of the era that we are in
So I think us judging old celebrities/ people is a tad bit unfair

second part I didn't get and its relation to the quote confused

 

[King_Kohli]

Anyone sharing OpIndia as a source should’t talk about propaganda

That's why I have shared other news sources headlines.
Same news everywhere.

 

[JaDed]

That's why I have shared other news sources headlines.
Same news everywhere.

No, one is saying Malayalees and other is saying Congress supporters , Communists. cadres.— the propaganda

 

[JaDed]

In me too era he would have changed his ways
That generation was truly horrific in the way they treated women I don't think they're a lot of celebrities of the time who were decent
maybe the culture of the time he was living in was such that they considered it normal
tbh I don't judge him like that cause in new eras we have the hegemony of time on our side so we can judge them from our own perspectives but the era they were living in was different thier education, brought up was different so we are very much in a hegemonic place to judge them
We stack all the rules against them without giving them the privilege of education of the era that we are in
So I think us judging old celebrities/ people is a tad bit unfair

second part I didn't get and its relation to the quote confused

Ali when a kid was denied water in a store due to race.. IIRC

 

[KingKhanWC]

Dealing with immense emotional turmoil after seeing Tendulkar's tweet today in support of Modi government.

Ganguly, Kohli, Shastri were already known puppets of the BJP government.

Seeing Sachin and even Kumble today going the same direction has broken my heart as a life long Cricket fan.

No sport is bigger for me than human rights and for that matter i am officially done with supporting Indian cricket team for its continuous brown nosing of this fascist government.

Sachin, I wish you did better. Shame on you.

#StandWithFarmers

Good on you for seeing the light.

However you should learn from this experience, a great sports star or Bollywood actor doesnt mean he/she is a great human being. Tendulkar is not Imran Khan.

My advice, support Pakistan cricket team, we might not be as strong as we once were but wearing green is a nice style.

 

[Technics 1210]

Don’t get me wrong. Sachin is a great batsman, extraordinarily gifted, holds some batting records, they will hold for a while.

But never compare him and Ali in the same breath . Ali once an Olympic champion, throws his medal into the river for political reasons. Then converts to Islam and consorts with Malcolm X. Becomes the world champion. Drafted for the war but refuses to go, "no Vietnamese called me a ******" . Stripped of his titles, can't fight in US, almost goes to jail, legal battles. Vilified as a traitor. Fights outside the US. Becomes world champion again. And the mountain finally comes to Ali.


Now that's transcending sports and a real Champion that we can all look up to.

SRT is not a great batsman. Technically he was gifted with natural balance give his height, resulting in low centre of gravtiy.

The fact is longevity played a role, and the longer he played the more runs he scored. Go look up his average in Tests and ODI. He doesn't even make it in the top 10. In fact it took him 70 innings in ODI before he scored his first century.

Had Lara or Ponting played the same length of time, SRT would be a foot note in cricketing history.

 

[Bigboii]

Good on you for seeing the light.

However you should learn from this experience, a great sports star or Bollywood actor doesnt mean he/she is a great human being. Tendulkar is not Imran Khan.

My advice, support Pakistan cricket team, we might not be as strong as we once were but wearing green is a nice style.

Expert advice!

also ask him to contact his lawyer - they should write his will ASAP
You never know when the Lynching mobs would go out to find thier next victim

 

[KingKhanWC]

Expert advice!

also ask him to contact his lawyer - they should write his will ASAP
You never know when the Lynching mobs would go out to find thier next victim

I can already sense the words 'Freelance Cricketer' is being searched in the web for ....Is FC a Muslim. Is FC a Pakistani..Is FC working for ISI... We Stanis have his back though

 

[Bhaijaan]

Patriotism and Sports should not be mixed.

It's a lesson for me.

All these years, I thought these cricketers are patriots and icons.

How wrong was I!

 

[Bhaijaan]

I can already sense the words 'Freelance Cricketer' is being searched in the web for ....Is FC a Muslim. Is FC a Pakistani..Is FC working for ISI... We Stanis have his back though

Thanks brother KKWC.

It's heart warming seeing all the support.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Thanks brother KKWC.

It's heart warming seeing all the support.

No probs. God bless all Sikhs and farmers in India.

 

[in_cutter]

Dealing with immense emotional turmoil after seeing Tendulkar's tweet today in support of Modi government.

Ganguly, Kohli, Shastri were already known puppets of the BJP government.

Seeing Sachin and even Kumble today going the same direction has broken my heart as a life long Cricket fan.

No sport is bigger for me than human rights and for that matter i am officially done with supporting Indian cricket team for its continuous brown nosing of this fascist government.

Sachin, I wish you did better. Shame on you.

#StandWithFarmers

All the best with your future endeavours. You will be missed.

 

[guna]

Patriotism and Sports should not be mixed.

It's a lesson for me.

All these years, I thought these cricketers are patriots and icons.

How wrong was I!

You mixed it by quitting cricket.

 

[Slog]

What has that got do with Ali being considered a great?

Sachin and Ali are great in their own sport. There should not be any comparisons. Ali got fame for his defiance of white racism. He is very outspoken unlike Sachin who is not known for any reason other than Cricket.

You should read the few words after that. Malcolm X.

 

[Belawal2014]

pseudo siculars , lieberals and Pappu army cant digest.
Such a low life fellas.... Get well soon

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They've made the poster taller than he actually is. Need to fix that.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I refuse to debate with fascists.

Debate is done with people who are open minded and respectful.

The people who are happily advocating massacre of minorities and crushing any form of protest against the government can never even be my friends.

Forget the scope of debating with strangers like these i belive in walking the talk and I have in real life unfriended once very close friends because of these ideological differences.

Political differences are common but if those differences cross a line to a point you know for a fact the other person's beliefs genuinely threaten safety of people you care for, or even you in the near future, how can you even be friends with such people?

It is astonishing and rather sad if any of you are still actually keeping such snakes around you in the name of friendship. Sorry for sounding judgemental but sugar coating lies is not what I learn from my parents.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Due to the above mentioned facts, low life hindutva trolls do not even quote me anymore because they cannot win if I do not indulge.

Only the finest of the PP posters quote me with whom i will continue to have great discussions about life and politics

 

[Napa]

Not sure why did you say that. What she does for her living or in spare time has nothing to do with her opinion.

The point was that all sorts of airheads are being given prominence by the media. I assume you know what she is famous for, and that certainly doesn't make her in any way qualified to have an opinion that the media should think is important.

 

[Napa]

I fear for the career of Shubhman Gill especially with Jay Shah gaining power every day. First sign of failure, he might not even play Ranji.

What has Gill playing or not playing got anything to do with politics?

 

[Napa]

Think you know very little about India. Modi's approval rating is highest among all global leaders because majority of Indians suport him and his good governance. No one has taken of poor more than present regime - Jandhan Yojna, Ujala, Atal pension, Gramin Yojna, 100% electrification....list goes on and on. You know nothing about these farm bills either apart from watching some politically motivated Khalistani protests. So you are free to believe whatever but reality is very different.

Funniest thing is that those who are supporting the farmers' protests have no answer what exactly in the laws they find objectionable. Just because some farmers are protesting doesn't mean they are right.

The laws remove barriers for farmers from selling their products. When you ask the critics to explain what is harmful for farmers in these laws, they are silent.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Funniest thing is that those who are supporting the farmers' protests have no answer what exactly in the laws they find objectionable. Just because some farmers are protesting doesn't mean they are right.

The laws remove barriers for farmers from selling their products. When you ask the critics to explain what is harmful for farmers in these laws, they are silent.

You are :-
1. Either not talking to the right people
2. Probably do not have the right people in your circle to explain the matter to you for your better understanding
3. Have not researched well enough

The opposition to farm laws is very clear cut.

I need not even explain. It's out there to read and hear.

It's the opposite actually of what you are saying.

So far no leader or supporter of the establishment has been able to give clear cut answer to farmers concerns.

Farmers are ready for an open live debate. The politicians will never give you that, theh want to talk behind closed doors where they would try their bully tactics.

Anyway such matters belong in the other thread dedicated to the farm protests. I am not part of that discussion.

 

[Napa]

You are :-
1. Either not talking to the right people
2. Probably do not have the right people in your circle to explain the matter to you for your better understanding
3. Have not researched well enough

The opposition to farm laws is very clear cut.

I need not even explain. It's out there to read and hear.

It's the opposite actually of what you are saying.

So far no leader or supporter of the establishment has been able to give clear cut answer to farmers concerns.

Farmers are ready for an open live debate. The politicians will never give you that, theh want to talk behind closed doors where they would try their bully tactics.

Anyway such matters belong in the other thread dedicated to the farm protests. I am not part of that discussion.

You are just saying a lot of stuff without saying anything.

How exactly are the farmers losing due to the new laws? Please answer the question instead of rambling on about who I may or may not be speaking to.

 

[Bhaijaan]

You are just saying a lot of stuff without saying anything.

How exactly are the farmers losing due to the new laws? Please answer the question instead of rambling on about who I may or may not be speaking to.

The answers to these questions have already been shared in detail by experts and the information is readily available on the world wide web. The ball is in government's court to address the issues in public in clear words rather than using media and it's stooges to run their propaganda.

Please don't form your opinion based on Arnab and Navika's words.

 

[Abdullah719]

Media hits back.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Time for India to come out in support for Sachin Tendulkar. Tweet your support with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NationWithSachin?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NationWithSachin</a>. Raise your voice for India! <a href="https://t.co/pUDoAdiJPc">pic.twitter.com/pUDoAdiJPc</a></p>— Republic (@republic) <a href="https://twitter.com/republic/status/1357975961023565824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[guna]

The answers to these questions have already been shared in detail by experts and the information is readily available on the world wide web. The ball is in government's court to address the issues in public in clear words rather than using media and it's stooges to run their propaganda.

Please don't form your opinion based on Arnab and Navika's words.

The laws only seem to affect Punjab and Haryana Farmers. I wonder why there are no movements against farm laws in the rest of India.

Telling farmers to sell their produce to the highest bidder and avoiding middleman is the issue.

If Farmers have issues and concerns, they should discuss peacefully. Not by doing thuggery on the streets, blocking roads, bringing thousands of tractors to Delhi and running them over police is not the way to do.

 

[guna]

You are just saying a lot of stuff without saying anything.

How exactly are the farmers losing due to the new laws? Please answer the question instead of rambling on about who I may or may not be speaking to.

They will never give a proper answer to that question.