b.lesner
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i think he has good pace
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Don't ever believe these self-hype machines - Talha, him etc.
Tabish Khan last 120 Fc wickets have come at an Ave of 19.79 and a SR of 41.50 with 10 fivefers and 2 fivefers.
While
Mohammad Abass last 112 wickets at an Ave of 14.24 and a SR of 32.5 with 12 fivefers and 3 tenfers.
and
Ali Imran Pasha's last 112 Fc wickets have come at an Ave of 15.95 and a SR of 28.70 with 8 fivefers & 3 tenfers.
Keep him away.
Likes of Bhatti, Anwar > Tabish.
Talha was the same kind, "I'm bowling 140+...
Having a terrific season so far.. Unlike Sadaf, he isn't even regressing. Its a mystery why he's never been selected.
Why is he not in the team? For the past 5-6 years we're seeing the same set of mediocre bowlers getting selected and re-selected while the top performers in domestics and A tours are sidelined. I think these guys don't have the connection and backing that the trundlers Imran, Sohail, Bialwal, Anwar Alis have. Without any Star fast bowlers our team is strictly mediocre.
The harsh reality is that the fast bowlers in the squad are the best fast bowlers in the country... End of story.Why is he not in the team? For the past 5-6 years we're seeing the same set of mediocre bowlers getting selected and re-selected while the top performers in domestics and A tours are sidelined. I think these guys don't have the connection and backing that the trundlers Imran, Sohail, Bialwal, Anwar Alis have. Without any Star fast bowlers our team is strictly mediocre.
The harsh reality is that the fast bowlers in the squad are the best fast bowlers in the country... End of story.
When Kamran Akmal is a top performer in your domestic set-up are you really going to take it seriously?
If you don't like trundlers then you won't like Tabish.
Babar Azam isn't a top performer at domestic level, by your logic he should still be rotting in our utter crap domestic system.Are you part of PCB or something? I've noticed in every topic where there's criticism on PCB selection committee and the current trundler squad you've to jump in defend them without any evidence to back up your claims. The current squad has not been selected on merit so the argument that "they're the best we have" is false. We heard the same excuse when a 33 year old Misbah made his debut and a 32 year old Muhammad Iran was given his first chance at an age when cricketers specially fast bowlers retire.
Inzamam, Babar, Azam, Sarfraz, Amir and Asif all came from the same domestic set-up. Until and unless top performers from domestic who have the potential to excel are given a fair chance to prove their talent nobody has any right to write them off.
Has Anwar n bhatti outbowled this guy in domestic....
If he is bad then how did he get so many wickets....
I at times don't get it, batsman score runs and its said bowling weak tha and here its the other way round
Why is he not in the team? For the past 5-6 years we're seeing the same set of mediocre bowlers getting selected and re-selected while the top performers in domestics and A tours are sidelined. I think these guys don't have the connection and backing that the trundlers Imran, Sohail, Bialwal, Anwar Alis have. Without any Star fast bowlers our team is strictly mediocre.
The harsh reality is that the fast bowlers in the squad are the best fast bowlers in the country... End of story.
When Kamran Akmal is a top performer in your domestic set-up are you really going to take it seriously?
If you don't like trundlers then you won't like Tabish.
Care to elaborate?
Babar Azam isn't a top performer at domestic level, by your logic he should still be rotting in our utter crap domestic system.
You fail to realise the substandard pitches being produced these days which heavily favour medium pacers.
Meritocracy will not prevail in Pakistan unless the domestic system is "fixed".
Medium Pacers average sub 20 for fun these days, Asif averages a poultry 24.5 at the FC level (by modern Pakistani Domestic standards). The Pakistani FC pitches are not the same as they were say 5-10 years ago.
You think the selection committee don't want Pakistan to succeed?
Name one bowler whom you have seen bowl that can walk into this test side.
Keep him away.
Likes of Bhatti, Anwar > Tabish.
Talha was the same kind, "I'm bowling 140+...
Babar scored a ton for his team in knock FC game under pressure. That was proof of his ability. You've repeated the same excuse regarding "pitches not being same" that was countered in the other thread by talent spotter bhai. so kindly do not waste my time in cyclic arguments. And no PCB selection committee has zero credibility and little regard for meritocracy if at all.
[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] Mcgrath, Philander and Asif were also kind of trundlers, being low on speed isn't a bad thing, you get more control on your line and length and swing and seam
Yes, a trundler with skill with the ball who can move it like Asif are extremely handy.
These bowlers, however, can't do it with a proper ball and on a decent pitch.
Yes, a trundler with skill with the ball who can move it like Asif are extremely handy.
These bowlers, however, can't do it with a proper ball and on a decent pitch.
Link to thread where talenspotter supposedly countered this argument.Babar scored a ton for his team in knock FC game under pressure. That was proof of his ability. You've repeated the same excuse regarding "pitches not being same" that was countered in the other thread by talent spotter bhai. so kindly do not waste my time in cyclic arguments. And no PCB selection committee has zero credibility and little regard for meritocracy if at all.
Yes, a trundler with skill with the ball who can move it like Asif are extremely handy.
These bowlers, however, can't do it with a proper ball and on a decent pitch.
PCB selection can often be dodgy for batsmen. They don't pick the right talent on time.
However for bowlers, they've mostly been spot on.
The trundlers you see taking 10fers and averaging low in domestic undeprepared tracks are not prepared or capable enough to play international cricket and show skill with the kookaburra.
This even applies to the likes of Imran Khan, Junaid, etc. But this is the best in mediocrity we have.
Others are even more mediocre like Ehsan Adil, Talha, Mir Hamza (can be decent on green overcast grounds only).
And if any proper bowler with skills is spotted, pcb will often pick him.
Babar Azam isn't a top performer at domestic level, by your logic he should still be rotting in our utter crap domestic system.
You fail to realise the substandard pitches being produced these days which heavily favour medium pacers.
Meritocracy will not prevail in Pakistan unless the domestic system is "fixed".
Medium Pacers average sub 20 for fun these days, Asif averages a poultry 24.5 at the FC level (by modern Pakistani Domestic standards). The Pakistani FC pitches are not the same as they were say 5-10 years ago.
You think the selection committee don't want Pakistan to succeed?
Name one bowler whom you have seen bowl that can walk into this test side.
Keep him away.
Likes of Bhatti, Anwar > Tabish.
Talha was the same kind, "I'm bowling 140+...
To know that you would have to try them with a proper ball on a decent pitch.
What baffles me is your presumption that there is actually an alternative to the empirical method.
Test, Discard/Select, Repeat. That is the only way to do it.
If by "skills" you mean they were given a chance to bowl in front of a TV camera, yes. See under Shinwari.
In the meantime, there have been plenty of Javed-Come-Latelies. Ajmal, Yasir, Babar, Cheema, Sohail.
if Asif can succeed then why Hamza cannot? both can move the ball both ways and are intelligent bowlers
We all saw what happened with Asad Ali - Now people want to see another 80-83mph running in. Good going Pak fans!
Now finally recognition for him as he's picked by KK
He averages 40 this season so far
Will be another Tanvir Ahmed type experiment. Not sure if its worth the time.
Should have been given a chance 10 years back.
I feel this Zimbabwe series could have been the opportunity to give well deserved farewell to this domestic stalwart. Pakistan has nothing to lose. I think that it would be very motivating for domestic cricketers. If you don't reward your domestic performers it will demotivate younger players.
He was a late boomer surely but was bowling pretty well even 5-7 years ago. While Pakistan was trying all sorts of pacers in tests in UAE and none was doing really well. I think he could have been someone who could be selected at that time.
Unfortunately its too late now as he is 35 currently and while his control is pretty good his pace has gone down a bit. I personally dont think there is any roam for emotions when we talk about national cricket team.
What if he performs in the farewell match ?
Azhar Ali on Tabish not being selected for Pakistan:
"Credit to Tabish Khan for continuing to perform for many years, but there are things that the selectors look for in players which include the age factor - but I think credit to him as he is still knocking at the door of selection; I do hope when the selectors discuss selection they will look at his performances, so lets see what happens next"
lol does Azhar look at his age before selecting himself.. shameless individual Azhar Ali is.. retire already.