"I suspect pressure from India is hindering Bangladesh's tour" : Pakistan FM Shah Mehmood Qureshi

[RedwoodOriginal]

Do ask Rajapaksa who he blamed for his defeat in consecutive elections?

After Gotabaya visited India just after his election as President, his brother Mahinda is visiting next month. Both of them want to have very good relationship with India. India and China are the main players in Lanka, with India having the advantage of geography as well as the ability to influence a large number of Lankans.

You are deluded if you think Sri Lanka is maintaining good relations because of any sort of goodwill. It is purely because of strategic interests. And this government is trying to persue good relations with both countries so it can exact benefits from both.

I know a few Sri Lankans and let me assure you they don't view India as any sort of friend but rather a prying hegemon. India's duplicity during the Sri Lankan Civil War is well-known and not forgotten in any way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are deluded if you think Sri Lanka is maintaining good relations because of any sort of goodwill. It is purely because of strategic interests. And this government is trying to persue good relations with both countries so it can exact benefits from both.

I know a few Sri Lankans and let me assure you they don't view India as any sort of friend but rather a prying hegemon. India's duplicity during the Sri Lankan Civil War is well-known and not forgotten in any way.

You are a long way away from the truth here.

Almost Every SL govt after Bandaranaike till Kumaratunga viewed India as an ally. It was Rajapakse who went the chinese way. He faced two consecutive defeats and realised that being anti India is losing him precious votes. He visted India after his loss as well.

Duplicity?? India was very clear, while it banned Ltte, it would not allow a Tamil genocide as then millions will migrate to India. Already 100s of 1000s of Lankan tamils were living in India.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You are a long way away from the truth here.

Almost Every SL govt after Bandaranaike till Kumaratunga viewed India as an ally. It was Rajapakse who went the chinese way. He faced two consecutive defeats and realised that being anti India is losing him precious votes. He visted India after his loss as well.

Duplicity?? India was very clear, while it banned Ltte, it would not allow a Tamil genocide as then millions will migrate to India. Already 100s of 1000s of Lankan tamils were living in India.

Regional dynamics are changing. Previously China had zero clout in South Asia. Now it has significant clout in the region. As China grows powerful so will it's influence and over time New Delhi will have trouble matching Beijing. And you are missing my point. Sri Lanka is a very small nation it is obviously in it's interests to maintain a good relationship with India. But that doesn't mean it's people appreciate India interfering in it's internal affairs.

Yes that is what you would call duplicity. It is a well-known fact that RAW armed LTTE in the early 80's. Then when things got out of control India sent a peace-keeping force to intervene which only made things worse. If India wanted to tread the tight rope then it shouldn't have sent that peace-keeping force or armed the Tigers in the first place. Unlike India Pakistan actually made a substantial contribution by providing the Sri Lankan military with arms, ammunition and other high-tech military equipment at various points but particularly during the dying days of the war when India profusely refused to do so.

 

[Sidilicious]

Also, some posters here should try being a little less intellectually dishonest. Just admit this is political and has nothing to do with security. Once a country is giving you presidential level security, the issue of security is automatically resolved. Over the past year horrific acts of terrorism have been committed in New Zealand and Sri Lanka. In the past terrorist attacks in England have not stopped ICC events from taking place. Pakistan is just like any other country and people from the outside world know nothing of the inner-war the Pakistani state has fought in the past decade to get where we are today.

Even though you have some good points, it’s disingenuous to say that once some one gets presidential level security, the security issue is automatically resolved. May I remind you that the SL team that was attacked had been provided presidential level security.

And also there is a significant difference in terrorist acts being committed in a city vs directly targeting a cricket team. So all teams would be apprehensive even when things have become better.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Regional dynamics are changing. Previously China had zero clout in South Asia. Now it has significant clout in the region. As China grows powerful so will it's influence and over time New Delhi will have trouble matching Beijing. And you are missing my point. Sri Lanka is a very small nation it is obviously in it's interests to maintain a good relationship with India. But that doesn't mean it's people appreciate India interfering in it's internal affairs.

Yes that is what you would call duplicity. It is a well-known fact that RAW armed LTTE in the early 80's. Then when things got out of control India sent a peace-keeping force to intervene which only made things worse. If India wanted to tread the tight rope then it shouldn't have sent that peace-keeping force or armed the Tigers in the first place. Unlike India Pakistan actually made a substantial contribution by providing the Sri Lankan military with arms, ammunition and other high-tech military equipment at various points but particularly during the dying days of the war when India profusely refused to do so.

India didnt arm the LTTE. But yes the LTTE enjoyed significant support among Indian tamils. Ltte was not even banned by SL. India banned LTTE long before SL did.

It was SL which interfered in a Indo Pak War. They were fortunate India didnt go to war with them.

India only intefered in the SL after 1000s of Lankan Tamils started pouring into India.

India doesn't need to counter China. Others are already doing it. The moment a govt gets too close to China in a democracy, that govt is overthrown by its people. Govt of Rajapakse. Govt of Maldives. The maoist govt in Nepal etc. People simply dont tolerate how Chinese behave arrogantly and try to grab resources in the name of investment. The lankans learnt their lesson in Hembantota.

Pakistan is hardly a player in SL. And after the easter bombings, well the sentiments are hardly with an islamic nation.

 

[MenInG]

Please stay close to Cricket in this thread - no need to discuss regional politics.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Well that's that conspiracy theory binned. Now if South Africa refuses initially, we can blame the bcci for trying to put pressure on CSA

 

[Hawkeye]

Well that's that conspiracy theory binned. Now if South Africa refuses initially, we can blame the bcci for trying to put pressure on CSA

Our FM isn't known for being a genius or mature.

Hope someone competent comes onboard.

 

[Sir-fraz]

As days go on PTI seems more and more incompetent. They are becoming a joke internationally now.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Our FM isn't known for being a genius or mature.

Hope someone competent comes onboard.

I must say though. Well done to PCB for putting ego aside, negotiating with BCB and getting the full tour. This is what was needed and full credit to those involved for putting the interests of Pakistan cricket first. You can only blame BCCI for India's refusal to tour. With other boards, the onus was always on the PCB to bring them to the negotiating table and work out the nitty-gritties. Good on bcb for touring as well.

 

[AdamM97]

Should stay away from commenting on cricket. Besides, as a FM, he has a lot on his plate considering the tensions in the middle east.

 

[Saj]

Well that's that conspiracy theory binned. Now if South Africa refuses initially, we can blame the bcci for trying to put pressure on CSA

Far from binned. You must be very naive to think it can be binned and forgotten so easily.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Far from binned. You must be very naive to think it can be binned and forgotten so easily.

Is there any evidence that BCCI pressured SL and BD not to toyr Pakistan?

 

[Saj]

Is there any evidence that BCCI pressured SL and BD not to toyr Pakistan?

Unless they've been living in exile or on planet Mars, most people know BCCI has been trying there best to make PCB a pariah in world cricket.

 

[ahsan17]

Is there any evidence that BCCI pressured SL and BD not to toyr Pakistan?

This is as clear as it gets:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-with-terror-supporting-nations-idUKKCN1QB1DC

Based on these statements, it would have been very surprising had BCCI not pressured BD to not tour Pakistan.

I don't believe BCCI have the leverage to pressure SL, but they certainly have a friend in BD, so it's far more likely they did. Pressurizing someone isn't a black and white game. It doesn't mean you will get what you want all the time.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unless they've been living in exile or on planet Mars, most people know BCCI has been trying there best to make PCB a pariah in world cricket.

Thats a consipracy theory. Not a fact.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is as clear as it gets:

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-with-terror-supporting-nations-idUKKCN1QB1DC

Based on these statements, it would have been very surprising had BCCI not pressured BD to not tour Pakistan.

I don't believe BCCI have the leverage to pressure SL, but they certainly have a friend in BD, so it's far more likely they did. Pressurizing someone isn't a black and white game. It doesn't mean you will get what you want all the time.

That man was a court appointed guy. Not Bcci representative.

If BCCI started pressurising teans to not tour pakistan, pcb will find it far more difficult to arrange tours.

 

[ahsan17]

That man was a court appointed guy. Not Bcci representative.

If BCCI started pressurising teans to not tour pakistan, pcb will find it far more difficult to arrange tours.

It doesn't matter if he was official BCCI representative. He was representing GoI at the very least.

Again, pressurizing isn't a binary black or white scenario. The pressure one side applies isn't clear, and the outcomes are unpredictable. But simply based on what BCCI and GoI have been saying about isolating Pakistan and Pakistan cricket, it is highly unlikely they didn't try anything here.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Thats a consipracy theory. Not a fact.

The oldest news related to this matter I could find was from: Sunday, 18 August, 2002, 14:19 GMT 15:19 UK from a neutral (if such a source exists) BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/2201403.stm

it's the same drama

And I am sure people from 90s, 80s and 70s can attest to the same rotten thing.


Yeah, it ain't a conspiracy theory buddy, it is a well documented fact, spanning decades!

Fact 1: India always politicizes cricket.
Fact 2: BCCI tries its best to iSoLaTe IsOlAtE Pakistan.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The oldest news related to this matter I could find was from: Sunday, 18 August, 2002, 14:19 GMT 15:19 UK from a neutral (if such a source exists) BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/2201403.stm

it's the same drama

And I am sure people from 90s, 80s and 70s can attest to the same rotten thing.


Yeah, it ain't a conspiracy theory buddy, it is a well documented fact, spanning decades!

Fact 1: India always politicizes cricket.
Fact 2: BCCI tries its best to iSoLaTe IsOlAtE Pakistan.

Edit: Here is a news from 1999:

Tuesday, January 19, 1999 Published at 17:33 GMT
World: South Asia

Indian cricket HQ moves after attack

The Indian cricket authorities are moving their headquarters to Calcutta after Monday's attack on their offices in Bombay by Hindu nationalists.
Activists from the Shiv Sena party - allies of the prime minister's BJP - damaged furniture and computer equipment, as part of their campaign to stop a cricket tour by the Pakistani cricket team beginning this week.

Several championship trophies won by the Indian cricket team, including the 1983 World Cup were also damaged.

"Millions of cricket lovers feel deeply hurt by the damage done to trophies that symbolise great accomplishment and national pride," said Raj Singh Dungarpur, president of the Board of Cricket Control of India.

Protest backlash


[ image: Cricket fans are demanding that Shiv Sena is brought to book]
Cricket fans are demanding that Shiv Sena is brought to book
"It is unacceptable for anybody to desecrate them in this manner."

On Tuesday a crowd of cricket supporters gathered in Bombay to protest against the attack.

Shiv Sena leader Bal Thackeray has criticised the BCCI's decision to invite Pakistan to tour. He has said his party members will not allow the visiting team to play in India on the grounds that Pakistan is an enemy country.

The party opposes any efforts to improve sporting and cultural links between the two countries. It has also vowed to disrupt plans to establish a new bus service between the Pakistani city of Lahore and the Indian capital, Delhi.

Cricket officials from both countries have said they are determined the tour will go ahead. Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, has given assurances of "foolproof" security for the visitors.

Pitch attacked


[ image: Police inspectors check damaged trophys for fingerprints]
Police inspectors check damaged trophys for fingerprints
Two weeks ago, Shiv Sena activists dug up the pitch at Delhi's Ferozeshah Kotla cricket ground, and threatened to sabotage the first Test.

The venue was later switched to the southern city of Madras with the second Test to be being played in Delhi. The BCCI ordered security to be tightened at all venues due to host matches against Pakistan.

The police minister of West Bengal, Buddhadev Bhattacharya, has threatened Hindu demonstrators with severe action if they try to disrupt the scheduled match in Calcutta.

 

[Titan24]

If BCCI started pressurising teans to not tour pakistan, pcb will find it far more difficult to arrange tours.

No disrespect but, I think its a general impression Indian govt and media gives to their citizens that they are more capable than they actually are.

 

[Saj]

Thats a consipracy theory. Not a fact.

I think most of us know what it is, but thanks for your input.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

India didnt arm the LTTE. But yes the LTTE enjoyed significant support among Indian tamils. Ltte was not even banned by SL. India banned LTTE long before SL did.

It was SL which interfered in a Indo Pak War. They were fortunate India didnt go to war with them.

India only intefered in the SL after 1000s of Lankan Tamils started pouring into India.

India doesn't need to counter China. Others are already doing it. The moment a govt gets too close to China in a democracy, that govt is overthrown by its people. Govt of Rajapakse. Govt of Maldives. The maoist govt in Nepal etc. People simply dont tolerate how Chinese behave arrogantly and try to grab resources in the name of investment. The lankans learnt their lesson in Hembantota.

Pakistan is hardly a player in SL. And after the easter bombings, well the sentiments are hardly with an islamic nation.

I think you need to brush up on your history. RAW armed and trained a number of Tamil militant groups in the early 1980s. They had training camps in Tamil Nadu, out of which LTTE emerged as the most vicious. These facts have been quoted by various publications, most of which are Indian. Whatever India's reasons may have initially been; whether it was having a false sense of doing the right thing or the aim of gaining strategic depth in Sri Lanka they clearly had a big hand in the creation of the LTTE and over the course of time only emboldened them.

That's one view. But then there's also the fact that 90% of Nepal's FDI comes from China. Or the fact that Sri Lanka and Maldives have effectively backed themselves into a corner and become entangled with China because of their debts. Common sense says that China's influence will only grow because the Chinese have much deeper pockets than the Indians and as their economy will grow stronger they would want to reduce India's influence in the region as much as possible.

 

[MenInG]

I think you need to brush up on your history. RAW armed and trained a number of Tamil militant groups in the early 1980s. They had training camps in Tamil Nadu, out of which LTTE emerged as the most vicious. These facts have been quoted by various publications, most of which are Indian. Whatever India's reasons may have initially been; whether it was having a false sense of doing the right thing or the aim of gaining strategic depth in Sri Lanka they clearly had a big hand in the creation of the LTTE and over the course of time only emboldened them.

That's one view. But then there's also the fact that 90% of Nepal's FDI comes from China. Or the fact that Sri Lanka and Maldives have effectively backed themselves into a corner and become entangled with China because of their debts. Common sense says that China's influence will only grow because the Chinese have much deeper pockets than the Indians and as their economy will grow stronger they would want to reduce India's influence in the region as much as possible.

Leave this out now - you have both had your say - lets get back to cricket related arguments.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It doesn't matter if he was official BCCI representative. He was representing GoI at the very least.

Again, pressurizing isn't a binary black or white scenario. The pressure one side applies isn't clear, and the outcomes are unpredictable. But simply based on what BCCI and GoI have been saying about isolating Pakistan and Pakistan cricket, it is highly unlikely they didn't try anything here.

He was actually representing no one. Neither the bcci members nor GoI were happy with him. He was an embarrassment. A throughly incompetent retired bureaucrat aided by a little known former womens cricketer.

You may have missed the comments of Bcci members in media and fans here on PP.

If India wanted to pressurise, the pressure will be at the level of Sheikh Hasina. Not bcci or bcb.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The oldest news related to this matter I could find was from: Sunday, 18 August, 2002, 14:19 GMT 15:19 UK from a neutral (if such a source exists) BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/2201403.stm

it's the same drama

And I am sure people from 90s, 80s and 70s can attest to the same rotten thing.


Yeah, it ain't a conspiracy theory buddy, it is a well documented fact, spanning decades!

Fact 1: India always politicizes cricket.
Fact 2: BCCI tries its best to iSoLaTe IsOlAtE Pakistan.

One BCCI not playing with pakistan is not Bcci asking others to not play.

Pakistan started this by not touring India for Asia cup 1990.

Fact 1 Pakistan started it.

Fact 2 If Bcci started exerting pressure, pakistan will find it far more difficult to navigate in the Icc.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No disrespect but, I think its a general impression Indian govt and media gives to their citizens that they are more capable than they actually are.

People claim Bcci is ICC.

BCB is a stooge of Bcci.

Etc Etc.

 

[ChennaiFan]

People claim Bcci is ICC.

BCB is a stooge of Bcci.

Etc Etc.

Those claims are only for convenience to make their conspiracy theories appear real.

 

[ChennaiFan]

If a team visits Pakistan, it is the power of PCB, especially their negotiation skills. If a team refuses to tour, it has nothing to do with PCB. It is all BCCI and GOI's fault. )

 

[Itachi]

No disrespect but, I think its a general impression Indian govt and media gives to their citizens that they are more capable than they actually are.

By that logic, even if BCCI claims or GOI claims we should have our doubts about their influence.

And since this isn't even claimed by BCCI or GOI, then what should we conclude except Pakistan playing the victim card again?

 

[Itachi]

If a team visits Pakistan, it is the power of PCB, especially their negotiation skills. If a team refuses to tour, it has nothing to do with PCB. It is all BCCI and GOI's fault. )

I believe it falls into the category of PCBs skills overpowering the hypnotism triggered by BCCI and thus they agreed to the tour.

 

[ahmedzee]

That man was a court appointed guy. Not Bcci representative.

If BCCI started pressurising teans to not tour pakistan, pcb will find it far more difficult to arrange tours.

Fine, what about in 2016, Thakur guy, said the same thing

 

[ahmedzee]

One BCCI not playing with pakistan is not Bcci asking others to not play.

Pakistan started this by not touring India for Asia cup 1990.

Fact 1 Pakistan started it.

Fact 2 If Bcci started exerting pressure, pakistan will find it far more difficult to navigate in the Icc.

Oh my!!! 1990!!!
Now I am going to find something from 5000 years ago and link it to india and claim india started it...you make me laugh sometimes with your thought process...

 

[Itachi]

Oh my!!! 1990!!!
Now I am going to find something from 5000 years ago and link it to india and claim india started it...you make me laugh sometimes with your thought process...

He's right actually. PCB declined to tour in 1990.

Since then, the power has shifted towards BCCI.

Its nothing personal. You reap what you sow.

 

[Titan24]

By that logic, even if BCCI claims or GOI claims we should have our doubts about their influence.

And since this isn't even claimed by BCCI or GOI, then what should we conclude except Pakistan playing the victim card again?

You should have doubts about their capability.

Even if they had the intentions they werent capable enough. Them not being able to do anything doesnt mean they havent tried, these things arent said openly but managed behind the doors.

 

[Itachi]

You should have doubts about their capability.

Even if they had the intentions they werent capable enough. Them not being able to do anything doesnt mean they havent tried, these things arent said openly but managed behind the doors.

Do you have any proof regarding that?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Even though you have some good points, it’s disingenuous to say that once some one gets presidential level security, the security issue is automatically resolved. May I remind you that the SL team that was attacked had been provided presidential level security.

And also there is a significant difference in terrorist acts being committed in a city vs directly targeting a cricket team. So all teams would be apprehensive even when things have become better.

I disagree. The Sri Lankan team was not provided the kind of security in 2009 that should have been provided considering the situation at the time. All the security measures that Pakistan have taken now should have especially been taken back then because at that time there was significant terrorism in parts of Pakistan.

I agree on the fact that there has not been an incident like this but there have been many others in sports like the bombing outside the Santiago Bernabeu in 2002 by Catalan separatists, just hours before the Champions League match between Real and Barca or the 2008 marathon bombing in Sri Lanka by the Tamil Tigers or even the murder of Israeli athletes by a the Palestinian militant group Black September at the 1972 Olympics.

None of these events affected the hosting prospects of where these incidents took place. Need I remind you that there was a time when England was also regularly rocked by bombings by the IRA. While Sri Lanka went many through many periods of turmoil during their over 30 year long Civil War. But teams continued to tour because some kind of security was there.

 

[troodon]

The big bad BCCI

 

[cricketjoshila]

Fine, what about in 2016, Thakur guy, said the same thing

What did he say?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Oh my!!! 1990!!!
Now I am going to find something from 5000 years ago and link it to india and claim india started it...you make me laugh sometimes with your thought process...

You thought PCB boycotting Asia cup in 1990 and then refusing to come to India in 1993 for political reasons was not the start?

Lol.

Someday it was going to come back and bite PCB.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Even though you have some good points, it’s disingenuous to say that once some one gets presidential level security, the security issue is automatically resolved. May I remind you that the SL team that was attacked had been provided presidential level security.

And also there is a significant difference in terrorist acts being committed in a city vs directly targeting a cricket team. So all teams would be apprehensive even when things have become better.

Also when you provide presidential level security to a team the threat of anyone targeting them is automatically nullified.

 

[MenInG]

You thought PCB boycotting Asia cup in 1990 and then refusing to come to India in 1993 for political reasons was not the start?

Lol.

Someday it was going to come back and bite PCB.

Ok so then BCCI did want to take revenge? Atleast you acknowledge that.

 

[Titan24]

Do you have any proof regarding that?

No its an assumption which is based upon the history of both countries especially the recent relations along with the fact how verbal Indian politicians and other state organizations have been against Pakistan. From election campaigns to art (In the form of movies) India's infatuation with Pakistan isnt a hidden fact and assumption of the same things in cricket which is the most popular sport in both countries isnt too far fetched in my opinion.

I am not gonna go into details of other things outside of cricket. Even in cricket in 2016 a T20 league with Indian stars in the form of Sehwag and Yuvraj (Indian players dont play any league) were allowed in to play in UAE at the same time as the inauguration year of PSL.

Was it just a coincidence the the idea came in at just the same time as PSL and they wanted to start at the same time as well and not to forget Indian players who are not allowed for any league were allowed for that? Anyways it turned out Sehwag's and Yuvraj's popularity couldnt do much.

 

[Itachi]

Ok so then BCCI did want to take revenge? Atleast you acknowledge that.

I won't call it as a revenge. BCCI did the smart move of distributing its interest spread instead of putting all eggs in one basket after learning its lesson. Hence dependency on PCB decreased little by little over the years while PCB followed the same strategy though due to incompetence from administration, it moved backwards rather than forward.

 

[Itachi]

No its an assumption which is based upon the history of both countries especially the recent relations along with the fact how verbal Indian politicians and other state organizations have been against Pakistan. From election campaigns to art (In the form of movies) India's infatuation with Pakistan isnt a hidden fact and assumption of the same things in cricket which is the most popular sport in both countries isnt too far fetched in my opinion.

I am not gonna go into details of other things outside of cricket. Even in cricket in 2016 a T20 league with Indian stars in the form of Sehwag and Yuvraj (Indian players dont play any league) were allowed in to play in UAE at the same time as the inauguration year of PSL.

Was it just a coincidence the the idea came in at just the same time as PSL and they wanted to start at the same time as well and not to forget Indian players who are not allowed for any league were allowed for that? Anyways it turned out Sehwag's and Yuvraj's popularity couldnt do much.

Assumptions without proof = conspiracy.

Any other person could claim more outrageous claims without proof. If you call your thought process as no conspiracy, then how will you differentiate yourself from this other person? Where you will draw the line of imagination where it fades away from reality?

 

[Titan24]

Assumptions without proof = conspiracy.

Any other person could claim more outrageous claims without proof. If you call your thought process as no conspiracy, then how will you differentiate yourself from this other person? Where you will draw the line of imagination where it fades away from reality?

If you have ready my post #275 which was my first reply to you, I am not pointing any fingers but at the same time I cant be 100% sure that BCCI havent tried to do anything considering the history.

 

[ZamanFan]

You thought PCB boycotting Asia cup in 1990 and then refusing to come to India in 1993 for political reasons was not the start?

Lol.

Someday it was going to come back and bite PCB.

You like to spread disinformation and twist facts.
India aslo boycotted 1986 Asia Cup due to Sri Lanka.

Pakistan did not visit Asia Cup 1990/91 as the KAshmir dispute andhindutvacampiagn to martyr Babri Mosque wasin full swing later on a hindu radical party Shiv Sena dug up a pitch in Bombay in Oct. 1991 and not only the match got cancelled at Wankhede Stadium the bilateral series between India and Pakistan was also abandoned.

Indian hindu extremist political parties have hampered the India- Pakistan series 11-15 times by digging up pitches, threatening harm to players,etc..

India has similar issues with Sri Lanka when it comes to hosting them in state of Tamil Nadu due to local support for a Sri Lankan based terrorist group LTTE and hate for Sinhalese dominant Sri Lankan govt. .

 

[Savak]

Good on Shah Mahmood Qureshi to tell it as it is. No need to accept any nonsense from Bangladesh.

 

[ahmedzee]

You thought PCB boycotting Asia cup in 1990 and then refusing to come to India in 1993 for political reasons was not the start?

Lol.

Someday it was going to come back and bite PCB.

Yup, they (BCCI) just forgot to return the favour in 1996, 1997, 1998, 2004, 2005, 2006. 2008 ....But yes, every other time revenge was taken...just forgot those many years in some capacity

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ok so then BCCI did want to take revenge? Atleast you acknowledge that.

Bcci didnot take revenge. But what pcb did gave the GoI and Bcci the idea that boycotting cricket tours was a legitimate way.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yup, they (BCCI) just forgot to return the favour in 1996, 1997, 1998, 2004, 2005, 2006. 2008 ....But yes, every other time revenge was taken...just forgot those many years in some capacity

Why will GoI refuse permission in times of peace?

But PCB had shown the way that boycotting cricket tours was a legitimate way.

PCB did it when they wanted it. BCCI us doing when they have been asked to do it.

Why complain?

 

[Saj]

Stick to cricket folks.

TPS is there if you want to discuss politics - feel free to start threads there.