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Bro you seriously need to study about Islam because this is a ludicrous statement mostly made by non muslims.Don't muslims pray towards a gigantic black box in Mecca ?
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Bro you seriously need to study about Islam because this is a ludicrous statement mostly made by non muslims.Don't muslims pray towards a gigantic black box in Mecca ?
As per your knowledge, Hindutva history is false…. The world only praise Heroes not villains…. You will find statue of Chhatrapati Shivaji everywhere on the world, but not an Aurangzeb one
Bro you seriously need to study about Islam because this is a ludicrous statement mostly made by non muslims.
Don't muslims pray towards a gigantic black box in Mecca ?
What did I say wrong ?
I think statues are more significant in pagan societies than Muslim ones. I doubt you would find statues of Chatarapati or Aurangzeb in Afghanistan for example, but maybe your PM can arrange one to be built within the near future. What do you think?
There’s not one where I am .
Also some ideologies normalise statues , structures as a type of reverence, others see them in opposite view .
How many statues of modi ate there in the world ?
It is the house of Allah. All Muslims turn towards it to pray wherever they are in the world.Bro you seriously need to study about Islam because this is a ludicrous statement mostly made by non muslims.
You don't even try to learn about ISLAM before making such statements. DId you try to know the real reason for why MUSLIMS do that?Don't muslims pray towards a gigantic black box in Mecca ?
Why don't you tell other members who think they know about other religions than their own? When commenting on ISLAM once has to be prudent pundit on its inner details? Shouldn't other people learn about other religions before making any statements on them?You don't even try to learn about ISLAM before making such statements. DId you try to know the real reason for why MUSLIMS do that?
I guess you did not. My fellow just gave you a video and detailed explanation for your reference.
Have time? watch it
They should learn the facts and figures before commenting on anything. Religion is a very sensitive matter, cannot be just saying whatever you want without knowing the inside outs of it.Why don't you tell other members who think they know about other religions than their own? When commenting on ISLAM once has to be prudent pundit on its inner details? Shouldn't other people learn about other religions before making any statements on them?
This is a fair comment tbhWhy don't you tell other members who think they know about other religions than their own? When commenting on ISLAM once has to be prudent pundit on its inner details? Shouldn't other people learn about other religions before making any statements on them?
There is a Modi thread on PP. You should post it over there. Should stick to the thread topic as moderators suggest.10 Miracles of Narendra Modiji, the reason I say miracles, because no other leader achieve this in last 74 years.
1. Ram temple, Ayodhya
2. Ban on Triple Talaaq
3. Abrogation of Article 370
4. CAA
5. BASP Temple, UAE
6. 52 crores Jana-dhana accounts opened
7. Free ration to 81 crores citizen.
8. India became 4th largest economy in World
9. Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao
10. Winning the title of Most popular Leader in the World for last so many years
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of few posters here.This is a fair comment tbh
Not intervening in this particular debate but you are quite right in general.
All religions require some level of scholarship to understand.
We don't worship the Kaaba. Look at our article of faith.Don't muslims pray towards a gigantic black box in Mecca ?
Infact this entire thread should be under the Modi mega thread. Modi just lives rent free in few heads I guess.There is a Modi thread on PP. You should post it over there. Should stick to the thread topic as moderators suggest.
10 Miracles of Narendra Modiji, the reason I say miracles, because no other leader achieve this in last 74 years.
1. Ram temple, Ayodhya
2. Ban on Triple Talaaq
3. Abrogation of Article 370
4. CAA
5. BASP Temple, UAE
6. 52 crores Jana-dhana accounts opened
7. Free ration to 81 crores citizen.
8. India became 4th largest economy in World
9. Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao
10. Winning the title of Most popular Leader in the World for last so many years
There is a Modi thread on PP. You should post it over there. Should stick to the thread topic as moderators suggest.
Infact this entire thread should be under the Modi mega thread. Modi just lives rent free in few heads I guess.
Tbh its Modi's gaffes that make it so.New topic on Modiji sales fast here
Is Modi claiming to be a Prophet or God? Its one thing claiming to be doing God's work but this is a whole new level.
No Shivaji statue in Afghanistan, because ancestors of Taliban knows how our peoples are looters and destroyer. Who destroyed Buddha’s statue in Bamiyan? It’s Taliban.
Your people are looters and destroyers? Is that why you want to raise a statue of Shivaji in Afghanistan?
So political decisions are miracles. Your bar is very low.10 Miracles of Narendra Modiji, the reason I say miracles, because no other leader achieve this in last 74 years.
1. Ram temple, Ayodhya
2. Ban on Triple Talaaq
3. Abrogation of Article 370
4. CAA
5. BASP Temple, UAE
6. 52 crores Jana-dhana accounts opened
7. Free ration to 81 crores citizen.
8. India became 4th largest economy in World
9. Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao
10. Winning the title of Most popular Leader in the World for last so many years
So political decisions are miracles. Your bar is very low.
But you claimed that these were miracles only a Prophet and God could perform. Why the backtracking? Do you agree with his assertion about divinity or prophet hood ( depending on interpretation)Modiji is PM of the Country and his all decisions taken are in the interest of Indian citizens..
To be fair, you don't need to be a prophet or a god to perform miracles such as banning triple talaq or abrogating Article 370 which our hindutva friend @globetrotter is offering blessings for in post #94.
The Kaaba isn't an object of worship, but it serves as the focal point for our daily prayers. No matter our location on Earth, Muslims face the Kaaba, a direction known as the Qibla. This also represents a powerful symbol of unity. Regardless of background, ethnicity, or nationality, all Muslims turn towards the Kaaba in prayer, creating a strong sense of community and togetherness.Don't muslims pray towards a gigantic black box in Mecca ?
But you claimed that these were miracles only a Prophet and God could perform. Why the backtracking? Do you agree with his assertion about divinity or prophet hood ( depending on interpretation)
Reincarnation of what?Already I told Modiji is incarnation….. the way he worked in last 10 years… it’s a miracle
Don't worry, India has millions just like him. It's no wonder they lovingly call Feku their ''.So political decisions are miracles. Your bar is very low.
The guy helped and supported a rapist that filmed himself. I am not a Hindu but I respect all religions, isn't this a total contradiction of its teachings. How do you guys square this circleAlready I told Modiji is incarnation….. the way he worked in last 10 years… it’s a miracle
@globetrotterThe guy helped and supported a rapist that filmed himself. I am not a Hindu but I respect all religions, isn't this a total contradiction of its teachings. How do you guys square this circle
The guy helped and supported a rapist that filmed himself. I am not a Hindu but I respect all religions, isn't this a total contradiction of its teachings. How do you guys square this circle
They should learn the facts and figures before commenting on anything. Religion is a very sensitive matter, cannot be just saying whatever you want without knowing the inside outs of it.
So are you saying they didn't know he and the BJP was a rapist? Well Gandhi said he did, so when are they going to do another defamation case against him? You know as well as I that ain't happening because Modi the Prophet/God would be exposed as an abetter.He didn't help and support, the matter was apparently not known. The person isn't even a BJP member or contestant.
How can "a divine figure" not know this about a mere human being?He didn't help and support, the matter was apparently not known. The person isn't even a BJP member or contestant.
You are viewing divinity through an Abrahamic lens.How can "a divine figure" not know this about a mere human being?
No miracle needed to ban triple talaq, then why no leader banned it prior to 2014?
Taliban ancestors saying ours means theirs….
How can "a divine figure" not know this about a mere human being?
So are you saying they didn't know he and the BJP was a rapist? Well Gandhi said he did, so when are they going to do another defamation case against him? You know as well as I that ain't happening because Modi the Prophet/God would be exposed as an abetter.
So why hasn't a case against started for defamation. Its not as if you need an excuseWhat?
Rahul Gandhi saying anything isn't proof. He has had to apologise in courts for his utterances in the past.
Modi abetter? Lol how?
What did he mean with his quote?Where did Modi say he is a divine figure?
I am just going to leave this now as I no longer have any idea what you are saying.
Reincarnation of satan/Hitler! Take your pick.Reincarnation of what?
Reincarnation of satan/Hitler! Take your pick.
What did he mean with his quote?
So why hasn't a case against started for defamation. Its not as if you need an excuse
In short, it acts as a "totem" which we can see in other religions especially among primitive ones also. In that sense, it doesn't differ much from e. g. the statues of Hinduism because both acts as totem be it in the theory of durkheim or radclif brown.The Kaaba isn't an object of worship, but it serves as the focal point for our daily prayers. No matter our location on Earth, Muslims face the Kaaba, a direction known as the Qibla. This also represents a powerful symbol of unity. Regardless of background, ethnicity, or nationality, all Muslims turn towards the Kaaba in prayer, creating a strong sense of community and togetherness.
He never meant he is divine. He didn't even utter those words.What did he mean with his quote?
Doesn't that go for any case. Let the court decide. But you know as well as I that Diety Modi is a dirty man, aligning himself with a rapist who filmed himself raping womanHow will anyone prove he knew or he didn't know?
OK bro then reproduce the actual quote or video with source. ThanksMuch discussion about nothing on a fake quote.
Well done OP
OK bro then reproduce the actual quote or video with source. Thanks
Thanks to @Bhaag Viru Bhaag for the actual video, everybody could listen himself to what was he saying.Watch this video to clear up any confusion. Oscar level acting.
First, you called it a fake quote and now you are debating the translation. What’s next, analyzing the font choice?Your literal translation from Hindi to English is wrong. He meant it in a different way.
Check post #134
lol @Rajdeep bro it appears The Guardian has also posted a fake quoteThe illogical & now self declared non Biological Emperor getting international fame :
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Indian prime minister Narendra Modi has said he believes he has been chosen by God, as the multi-stage Indian election nears its completion.
“I am convinced that ‘Parmatma’ (God) sent me for a purpose. Once the purpose is achieved, my work will be one done. This is why I have completely dedicated myself to God,” he told NDTV news channel on Sunday.
Modi, who is hoping to win a third term when the results of the general election are announced on 4 June, said that while God guided him to do a lot of his work, he did so without revealing a larger scheme.
“He does not reveal his cards, just keeps making me do things. And I cannot dial him directly to ask what’s next,” he said.
Modi has built up a well-established cult of personality within his Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), with many supporters unable to name other cabinet members or their local BJP candidate.
The BJP has also actively promoted Hinduism, the majority faith, in every aspect of public life. At the inauguration of the temple in Ayodhya in January, it was Modi, rather than Hindu priests, who played the leading role in the rituals.
Nonetheless, this is believed to be the first time that Modi, who rarely gives interviews and has held no press conferences in his ten years in power, has spoken about himself so candidly as a divine instrument.
“The wily weaving of religion with politics for a country where faith is an inextricable part of everyday life is the BJP’s USP [unique selling point]. Mr Modi’s claim is the logical culmination of the BJP’s dominant theme,” the Indian newspaper The Telegraph wrote in an editorial.
Earlier this month, in a television interview in Varanasi, his constituency, Modi made another allusion to divinity. “When my mother was alive, I used to believe that I was born biologically. After she passed away, upon reflecting on all my experiences, I was convinced that God had sent me,” he said.
He said the only explanation for his extraordinary energy had to be non-biological. “I believe God has given me abilities, inspiration, and good intentions for a purpose … I am nothing but an instrument.”
Congress Party leader Rahul Gandhi ridiculed his comments. “If an ordinary person had made the statements Modi has been making recently, they would be taken directly to a psychiatrist,” he said.
Asked by a TV anchor whether Modi was suffering from a “God complex”, BJP spokesperson Sanju Verma replied by extolling his energy.
“In a day, he packs in a couple of road shows, a couple of rallies, travels to three different states, and when he returns to Delhi in the evening, he gives full interviews to the media. He is bestowed with boundless energy,” said Verma.
India elections: PM Narendra Modi claims he has been chosen by God
Indian leader tells interviewer God ‘just keeps making me do things’ but that he ‘cannot dial him directly’www.theguardian.com
Context matters.lol @Rajdeep bro it appears The Guardian has also posted a fake quote
Both can exist at the same time to be fair. They are not mutually exclusive.First, you called it a fake quote and now you are debating the translation. What’s next, analyzing the font choice?
You don't even try to learn about ISLAM before making such statements. DId you try to know the real reason for why MUSLIMS do that?
I guess you did not. My fellow just gave you a video and detailed explanation for your reference.
Have time? watch it
Im sure you have mentioned you don't understand Hindi well.Context matters.
I already wrote the context in my previous post #134.
Any words without context loses its true interpretation. Many people have asked some controversial statements in Quran over the years here in PP but others relate them to a context in order to reveal the true interpretations.
I am surprised at most people's selective biased nature here where they set one policy for anything Islamic and whole another for non Islamic.
I can't speak Hindi well. But I understand absolutely fine.Im sure you have mentioned you don't understand Hindi well.
We will wait for a more informed translation of his comments.
lol @Rajdeep bro it appears The Guardian has also posted a fake quote
The pro Modi posters haven't really said he is misquoted either.I can't speak Hindi well. But I understand absolutely fine.
All these news outlets have skipped words in between and chose statements which suits their agenda.
If you'll notice, even anti bjp Indian posters here posting their usual anti bjp rants yet they haven't refuted the claim that the news are misleading.
Forget Amrit Dhillon, read the post #139?It is written by Amrit Dhillon sitting in New Delhi working for Guardian. Lets not make it a gospel truth just bcoz its been published in Guardian.
Slight off topic but looks like you are getting desperate to show Modi in bad light. Modi does 5 rallies per day and makes hundreds of statements. Anything good or positive he says, it gets posted in Modi mega discussion thread and anything bad gets its own thread. If this is not desperation, what is?
Modi is PM of India and not Pakistan. If I were you I would be less bothered about him and focus more on your own country.
Post #?The pro Modi posters haven't really said he is misquoted either.
In fact one has already admitted he does believe he is divine and has conducted miracles.
44 and 94Post #?
How do you know its fake. With Ind media freedom as low as ours, if anyone made this up, they would have been arrested. You know that because even you guys that worship the god/ prophet don't know what angle to take. We have had 3 explanations on here alone- it's fake, it's misinterpreted or he is a reincarnation.Much discussion about nothing on a fake quote.
Well done OP
So when will he be arrested. Surely the prophet or God( or his media) could have corrected him and got it corrected at the time rather than leave you guys scrambling for an explanation which doesn't make you look stupidIt is written by Amrit Dhillon sitting in New Delhi working for Guardian. Lets not make it a gospel truth just bcoz its been published in Guardian.
Slight off topic but looks like you are getting desperate to show Modi in bad light. Modi does 5 rallies per day and makes hundreds of statements. Anything good or positive he says, it gets posted in Modi mega discussion thread and anything bad gets its own thread. If this is not desperation, what is?
Modi is PM of India and not Pakistan. If I were you I would be less bothered about him and focus more on your own country.
So it's not true and the quote is fake, or the quote is true but you are too embarrassed to admit it and need a reinterpretation. What is it.He never meant he is divine. He didn't even utter those words.
In a philosophical sense, every person in this world has a purpose. The theist believe that God has chosen a purpose for them. On the other hand, the atheist may believe that they exist because they have a "function" for the society.
He mentioned God as two entities. One was which "nirakar" means who doesn't have a shape or form but exists everywhere.
The other was the common people of India.
The title is totally misrepresentation of his words. I don't think even other Indians who are anti bjp will refute this (the fact that the title is a total misinterpretation).
TBE - all a Soros funded Congress conspiracy to malign the Illogical & non-Biological born Emperor Modi who in his own words is doing God's work by spreading hate , bigotry , divisiveness , rampant corruption , crony capitalism & .... wait I ran out o breath - MoG strikeslol @Rajdeep bro it appears The Guardian has also posted a fake quote
I am surprised at the idiocy of this post to be honest especially because it's coming from you, a respected poster in PP.So it's not true and the quote is fake, or the quote is true but you are too embarrassed to admit it and need a reinterpretation. What is it.
He is a vile oaf & a megalomaniac , corrupt 2 core [ PMCares , Electoral Bonds & just type #Modani on twitter ] besides being a failure at everything : You know FDI in $ terms last FY touched a how many year low ? - I have no doubt he will be remembered as the worst thing to happen to IndiaI am surprised at the idiocy of this post to be honest especially because it's coming from you, a respected poster in PP.
It's misinterpreted.
Why?.... Because it omits many middle parts of the sentences which changes the meaning of those words and brings in the philosophical perspective.
Is it fake? Nope...... Because just because there's selective biasedness in reporting, that doesn't mean it's fake. It simply means the reporter is misleading intentionally or unintentionally.
Am I embarrassed?
For what though?
I watched the video, it says Kabaa is not an object of worship but signifies the direction of prayer. That makes no sense. Have a look at the people around the Kabaa in a circle, they are face a million different directions in a 360 degree circle.
By the way, this Zakir Naik chap is a fugitive who's run away from India to avoid facing the law.