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Dubai: The International Cricket Council has turned down the BCCI's request to sever ties with countries from which "terrorism emanates", saying the ICC has no role to play in matters like these.

In the wake of the Pulwama terror attack, in which more than 40 CRPF personnel were killed, the BCCI, in a letter to the ICC, urged the world body and its member nations to sever ties with countries which harbour terror.

"There was no chance that anything like that would have happened. The ICC chairman made it clear that the decision to ostracize a nation is taken at the government level and ICC had no rule. The BCCI knew it all along but still took a chance," a BCCI official told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

The BCCI letter did not make a specific reference to Pakistan, which has been accused of harbouring terrorists by India.

The issue came up during Saturday's ICC board meeting chaired by chairman Shashank Manohar but not much time was spent on it.


The BCCI was represented at the board by acting secretary Amitabh Choudhary.

"So many players from member nations play the Pakistan Super League and they would have never entertained such a request. Yes, security was a concern and it had been duly addressed," the Board official added.

The Indian cricket team is scheduled to play Pakistan in the World Cup on June 16. There have been calls to boycott the clash in the wake of the heightened diplomatic tensions between the two countries following the Pulwama attack.

The demand has been made by some of the biggest names in Indian cricket such as Harbhajan Singh and Sourav Ganguly.

However, the Committee of Administrators (CoA) running Indian cricket has so far not taken any decision on the matter, saying that it will seek the government's view.

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcric...in-6186931.html/amp?__twitter_impression=true
 
Humiliated once again. :yk

2019 has been an awful year for the Indian establishment. :afridi
 
Looking a little silly and possibly jumped the gun

Kudos to ICC CE for not pandering to Indian wishes just because of their economic clout.
 
Well that didn't end well. Do people have any shame left? This is the most pathetic thing BCCI has ever done after banning our players from IPL and not honoring the MOUs.
 
Well that didn't end well. Do people have any shame left? This is the most pathetic thing BCCI has ever done after banning our players from IPL and not honoring the MOUs.

Yeh dil mangey more. :uakmal
 
Hope the CoA is satisfied after this and will keep their mouths shut.
 
Great slap on the face of BCCI.

Loved the way they got humiliated.
 
Now Icc should rethink about the special window that ipl enjoys. It needs to be closed sooner rather than later.

No nation should get any extra privilege.
 
Indians :)))
They must be hella frustrated.

Not really.

This is all politics.

Various people needed to do this to demonstrate their patriotism even though absolutely everyone knows nothing will happen here, and even as powerful as BCCI and Indian cricket is, no one will agree to such an absurd demand.

In fact this is one reason our demand was so outlandish; there's no real appetite in these quarters to do anything at all; but you have to make such a gesture, and when you make such stupid demands you can be confident nothing will actually happen.

Just commenting this to reassure any neutrals that we aren't actually literally insane. Just cynical self-interested politicos the same as all the other administrators.
 
Now since CoA had already taken this stupid decision, back it up by boycotting the World cup match.

This is why people with no stake in an organisation should ever get to run it.
 
Pak was never gonna be banned from the WC for goodness sake. India still reserve the right to pull out from the match or tournament. Only people crying will be their fans if that were to happen.
 
Now since CoA had already taken this stupid decision, back it up by boycotting the World cup match.

This is why people with no stake in an organisation should ever get to run it.

Not really. COA themselves said we are shooting ourselves by boycotting (and he's right).

Pakistan will celebrate and burst crackers if we do that, and they'll be right.

We won't boycott though.
 
Not really. COA themselves said we are shooting ourselves by boycotting (and he's right).

Pakistan will celebrate and burst crackers if we do that, and they'll be right.

We won't boycott though.

Then why send this stupid letter?
 
First got humiliated by the OIC and now, even the ICC, which is supposedly run on the BCCI's charity, left India out to dry.

How does being isolated feel like, India? Good on Mani for bringing up the issue of visas for Pakistani players. Either treat our players like VVIPs to ensure their safety or you are not fit to host an ICC tournament.
 
First got humiliated by the OIC and now, even the ICC, which is supposedly run on the BCCI's charity, left India out to dry.

How does being isolated feel like, India? Good on Mani for bringing up the issue of visas for Pakistani players. Either treat our players like VVIPs to ensure their safety or you are not fit to host an ICC tournament.

What OIC?

India is not even a member of OIC. India was invited by OIC as a guest and that invitation was not rescinded despite Pakistan boycotting the event.

India will host ICC events as scheduled. If in the unfortunate circumstance of Pakistani players being denied visas to India.ICC may try to shift the venue. But then ICC may have to choose between India or Pakistan. As i dont think India will play elsewhere if their hosting rights are taken away.
 
What OIC?

India is not even a member of OIC. India was invited by OIC as a guest and that invitation was not rescinded despite Pakistan boycotting the event.

India will host ICC events as scheduled. If in the unfortunate circumstance of Pakistani players being denied visas to India.ICC may try to shift the venue. But then ICC may have to choose between India or Pakistan. As i dont think India will play elsewhere if their hosting rights are taken away.

Hes talking about IOC, genius.
 
India and Indians have always been smoke and mirrors. Should abandon the WC if their stance is real.
 
Hope the CoA is satisfied after this and will keep their mouths shut.

Do you really believe this news? I think the whole things was about a few disgruntled folks in the BCCI after Pulwama who might have gotten emotional. for me its next to impossible to believe that the BCCI would have officially presented this proposal in a member's meeting. At best there might have been discussions between individual board members to gauge the pressure.
 
Now since CoA had already taken this stupid decision, back it up by boycotting the World cup match.

This is why people with no stake in an organisation should ever get to run it.

I honestly dont believe that this was ever presented as serious proposal at an ICC meeting. But you might be closer to situation to judge.
 
Now since CoA had already taken this stupid decision, back it up by boycotting the World cup match.

This is why people with no stake in an organisation should ever get to run it.

Yes, now it's time to be men, let's see..
 
BCCI should just boycott the world cup and keep the IPL during world cup time. I know, removing Pak from ICC event is not in BCCIs hand but they have the right to forefeit a tournament. I would love to see how tough Shashank Manohar is actually and what will be the value of world cup without India. Also, buy top players from the world for IPL with a money they cant refuse.
 
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Bullying tactics don't always work.

May be the richest Board but not the brightest.
 
Why write such a nonsensical letter in the first place?

I really don't believe that letter was sent. I mean i am only saying this because, the BCCI has been ruthlessly efficient at the ICC in general. This seems a little off script for them
 
BCCI should just boycott the world cup and keep the IPL during world cup time. I know, removing Pak from ICC event is not in BCCIs hand but they have the right to forefeit a tournament. I would love to see how tough Shashank Manohar is actually and what will be the value of world cup without India. Also, buy top players from the world for IPL with a money they cant refuse.

No one can deny India's importance to the cricket world.
But I don't think any active players would want to miss World Cup for the IPL.
It's a lifetime event vs some money, afterall.
 
BCCI should just boycott the world cup and keep the IPL during world cup time. I know, removing Pak from ICC event is not in BCCIs hand but they have the right to forefeit a tournament. I would love to see how tough Shashank Manohar is actually and what will be the value of world cup without India. Also, buy top players from the world for IPL with a money they cant refuse.

The IPL will flop miserably if held during the WC time, players will not risk their international careers and legacies to just play for one month of the whole year in the IPL. That is all that your country is good for, throwing insance amounts of money but lol that does not work every time.
 
What OIC?

India is not even a member of OIC. India was invited by OIC as a guest and that invitation was not rescinded despite Pakistan boycotting the event.

India will host ICC events as scheduled. If in the unfortunate circumstance of Pakistani players being denied visas to India.ICC may try to shift the venue. But then ICC may have to choose between India or Pakistan. As i dont think India will play elsewhere if their hosting rights are taken away.

OIC has 50 states under its umbrella. That is 50 states that have humiliated India on the world stage, a day after some old aunty tried to convince them that Pakistan was sponsoring terrorism. Of course they are not a part of the OIC, India doesn't deserve to be a part of it and never will.

If Pakistani players are not given visas and not given maximum security, India will be humiliated by another international sporting body, just like what happened with the Olympic committee. The ICC has already shown you that they will not take India's side if they are in the wrong and the World Cups will be moved. You can cry as much as you like but the fact is, you and your country are the ones being isolated.
 
No one can deny India's importance to the cricket world.
But I don't think any active players would want to miss World Cup for the IPL.
It's a lifetime event vs some money, afterall.

The IPL will flop miserably if held during the WC time, players will not risk their international careers and legacies to just play for one month of the whole year in the IPL. That is all that your country is good for, throwing insance amounts of money but lol that does not work every time.

AB Devilliers is a prime example of how tempting money is. If a player of his calibre can dump international cricket for league cricket, surely there will be many other.
 
AB Devilliers is a prime example of how tempting money is. If a player of his calibre can dump international cricket for league cricket, surely there will be many other.

You're deluded if you think he left international cricket for money. He was burnt out. Also, no cricketer will leave his nation right before a World Cup. That is an opportunity that comes once every four years and for most cricketers, once in a lifetime. At best, they'll make the World Cup their retirement tour.

I don't disagree that many cricketers will leave their national teams for the IPL, especially if the corrupt owners pay them millions while their own countrymen die of hunger. However, I don't see a single cricketer letting go of the chance to play the World Cup.

In fact, I can see Indian cricketers boycotting the IPL if India takes this opportunity away from them. Kohli has already emphasized the importance of the World Cup and the unimportance of the IPL.
 
It will make no difference if India pulls out of World Cup.All other teams will play.Indians are deluded,they think cricket won't survive without them.
 
BCCI should just boycott the world cup and keep the IPL during world cup time. I know, removing Pak from ICC event is not in BCCIs hand but they have the right to forefeit a tournament. I would love to see how tough Shashank Manohar is actually and what will be the value of world cup without India. Also, buy top players from the world for IPL with a money they cant refuse.
too much arrogance.
i don't think after doing this india will be able to play internationally any more.
can india afford only ipl 12 months in a year? no they won't
can rest of the world survive without playing against india ? yes they can
 
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The IPL will flop miserably if held during the WC time, players will not risk their international careers and legacies to just play for one month of the whole year in the IPL. That is all that your country is good for, throwing insance amounts of money but lol that does not work every time.

They probably would if we removed our salary cap.

That said it's a stupid idea, and very few of us hold IPL over the World Cup.

And more importantly, demanding that everyone boycott Pakistan is totally unrealistic and it's just political tamasha.
 
BCCI should just boycott the world cup and keep the IPL during world cup time. I know, removing Pak from ICC event is not in BCCIs hand but they have the right to forefeit a tournament. I would love to see how tough Shashank Manohar is actually and what will be the value of world cup without India. Also, buy top players from the world for IPL with a money they cant refuse.

You really do want to go down the road of "isolating India" just because your ego is hurt that ICC didn't accede to Indian demands.

If you keep this up, all you will have left is a bunch of "joker cricketers" playing "tamasha IPL" while the real world plays the actual World Cups.

Trust me, no country can hold the entire world ransom to its demands and you would be better off for recognizing that, instead of pushing India "further into this madness".
 
The Board Of Control For Cricket in India's (BCCI) secretary Amitabh Choudhary on Monday said that the International Cricket Council (ICC) has been in constant touch with the BCCI and that the governing body has conveyed to them that boycotting any country from where terror emanates is not within the domain of the ICC. "ICC Chairman after discussing with the with the board has conveyed to us that boycotting any country from where terror emanates is not within the domain of ICC," Amitabh Choudhary told reporters.

The BCCI had previously written a letter to the ICC raising two concerns, one was regarding security for the players and fans. The second matter was related to suggesting India and other members take no part with teams which come from areas where terror emanates from.

There has been a huge outcry in the country urging India not to play against Pakistan in the 2019 World Cup after a terror attack in Kashmir's Pulwama on February 14.

"The main concern raised by us was of security of players and the fans which the ICC has decided to look after. The ECB representative Colin Graves also said the same view," Choudhary added.

When questioned about India's 2019 World Cup squad, the secretary said that the deadline will be followed by the management to name the squad.

"Selection of players is of paramount importance and we will follow the ICC deadline for naming the players," he said.

India are scheduled to play Pakistan in the 2019 World Cup match on June 16 in Manchester.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/icc...says-bcci-secretary-amitabh-choudhary-2002379
 
I really don't believe that letter was sent. I mean i am only saying this because, the BCCI has been ruthlessly efficient at the ICC in general. This seems a little off script for them

A 70 yr old retired bureaucrat. A 60 plus little known apparently feminist cricketer. They are running the BCCI. They have no stake in the game. Tommorow supreme court removes them they will never come close to the BCCI again. They were living in obscurity before SC appointed them.

Do you expect anything sensible from them? I dont.
 
The letter was sent to make a point, job done.
 
It's been an awful start to the year for us.

Getting flogged everywhere,
 
Now since CoA had already taken this stupid decision, back it up by boycotting the World cup match.

This is why people with no stake in an organisation should ever get to run it.

Pls do that.

If BCCI really dares to do that it will get humiliated once again.

Indian cricket team is totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

But then again, it's a bluff. They will all crawl out of their cave that they have built themselves in their lala land when the wc will start and beg to icc to allow them to take participate like they have done in the past. Haha, they didn't even have the courage to boycott Asia Cup.

Here we r talking about WC. I personally will be very happy if bcci keeps their word this time around.
 
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Pls do that.

If BCCI really dares to do that it will get humiliated once again.

Indian cricket team is totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

But then again, it's a bluff. They will all crawl out of their cave that they have built themselves in their lala land when the wc will start and beg to icc to allow them to take participate like they have done in the past. Haha, they didn't even have the courage to boycott Asia Cup.

Here we r talking about WC. I personally will be very happy if bcci keeps their word this time around.

Sir this is the Indian team. Not some minnow team that they are insignificant.
 
The acting secretary of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) Amitabh Choudhary on Monday washed his hands off the letter written by the board to the International Cricket Council (ICC) when asked whether it was a mistake to not have mentioned 'Pakistan' specifically in the letter. In the wake of the ghastly Pulwama attack that killed more than 40 CRPF personnel, BCCI had written a letter, framed by board CEO Rahul Johri, to ICC urging the council and its member nations to sever ties with countries which harbour terrorists.

It was on Sunday that ICC gave their verdict on BCCI's letter at the end of their week-long quarterly meeting in Dubai. The council clarified that they have no role to play in matters like these. When asked about BCCI's letter as to why Pakistan wasn't specifically mentioned, Amitabh said," I have not written the letter."

"The chairman of the ICC (Shashank Manohar) has made a statement to address the issue and he has simply said that it is a matter which is beyond ICC's domain," said Choudhary.

"I would like to put everything to rest that there is no difference of opinion. There was a written communication by the BCCI CEO with the ICC. There were two points in that communication the first point related to the security and well being of the players and of the fans also," he said when asked whether BCCI had made a mistake in making this proposal.

Amitabh reminded that BCCI had two concerns in the wake of the attack. While the primary concern was the security of the Indian team and fans at the World Cup tournament in England, the second was urging ICC to sever ties with countries that harbour terrorism.

"The second matter related to suggesting that India and other members of the ICC take no part with teams which comes from areas where certain phenomenon emanate from, but the letter didn't mention which areas. To which the ICC chairman, after discussing it with the Board which is the only policy-making body of the ICC, stated that it is not within the domain of the ICC to make a comment or make a decision. The BCCI's concerns were, as I said, primarily, according to the letter, security concerns relating to players and fans which the ICC has wholeheartedly agreed to address. And the ECB representative Colin Graves was of the same view," he added.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...wasnt-mentioned-in-bccis-letter-to-icc/376387
 
Amid India-Pak World Cup clash uncertainty, BCCI to discuss ICC's stand on terrorism

The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) will convene a meeting on March 7 to discuss International Cricket Council's (ICC) decision to turn down the request of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) to sever ties with countries from which "terrorism emanates".

In the wake of the recent Pulwama terror attack, the BCCI wrote a letter to the world's cricket governing body requesting the ICC and its member nations to boycott nations which harbour terror.

However, the ICC on Sunday ruled out the same saying that it has no role to play in matters like these.

"There was no chance that anything like that would have happened. The ICC chairman made it clear that the decision to ostracize a nation is taken at the government level and ICC had no rule. The BCCI knew it all along but still took a chance," a BCCI official had told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

According to ANI sources, the BCCI CoA will now discuss the matter later this week.

In the letter, the BCCI had not made any specific reference to Pakistan, which has been accused of harbouring terrorists by India.

With India slated to play against Pakistan in the ICC World Cup group clash on June 16, there have been demands from a huge section of the society to boycott the match following the Pulwama attack in which at least 40 CRPF personnel lost their lives.

https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/a...-discuss-iccs-stand-on-terrorism-2185093.html
 
The International Cricket Council (ICC) and the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) do not seem to be looking each other in the eye of late as they have now been involved in a dispute regarding the Indian Premier League (IPL).

The latest bone of contention between the two bodies results from the ICC's wish to get involved in the matters concerning the IPL. TOI reports that the international body is making "serious efforts" to put in place a "watchdog" in order to oversee all existing and upcoming private T20 leagues around the world.

The ICC wants to put in place an 'event sanctioning group' in order to bring about uniformity in the policy governing all such T20 leagues. ICC's Chief Operating Officer (COO) Iain Higgins and media rights head Aarti Singh Dabas are slated to helm this committee.

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The BCCI have sought permission of the SC to review the Lodha Panel reccomendation
The groups will be working towards the following:

Bring about more control on the many private T20 leagues sprouting around the world.
Help draw up a uniform policy on how these leagues function.
Have a say in the format and players policy.
As a governing body, be seen as a policymaker for the many international cricket boards (full and associate members) who have T20 leagues or will soon have one.

But the BCCI has categorically rejected the ICC's wish to have a say in the IPL and the TOI reports BCCI's clear stand on the matter, "The IPL is an Indian domestic tournament and just the way how the ICC has no locus standi in a tournament like the Ranji Trophy, it will have no say in the IPL as well."

This idea was floated at the recent Chief Executives Committee meeting of the ICC in Dubai. Here, the BCCI was represented by its CEO Rahul Johri and according to TOI, after some amount of "backroom lobbying", he has managed to keep ICC at an arm's length for the moment.

Earlier, the ICC rejected BCCI's wish to "isolate" Pakistan on the grounds of it being a country from where terror emanates. The Hindu reported that Rahul Johri was told by the ICC chairman Shashank Manohar that such decisions were beyond their jurisdiction.

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Tensions between India and Pakistan are at an all-time high since the February 14 attack in J&K's Pulwama.Reuters
The other issue raised by the BCCI was security concerns surrounding the Indian players, officials and fans in the upcoming World Cup. Regarding this matter, ICC CEO David Richardson assured the BCCI. "As you would expect for a global sporting event, the ICC, in partnership with the ECB (England Cricket Board) has a robust security plan in place for the World Cup," he said.

India is yet to take a call on whether to play Pakistan in the World Cup following the Pulwama terror attack on February 14. For the moment, the India versus Pakistan match is slated to be held in Old Trafford, Manchester on June 16.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/bcci-vs-i...bal-body-after-pakistan-terrorism-snub-793121
 
The International Cricket Council (ICC) on Monday insisted that it will not interfere in the conduct of Indian Premier League (IPL), saying the world body rather plans to use the Indian domestic league as a benchmark to draft regulations for leagues across the world.

“Reports in the Indian media that the ICC is somehow seeking to interfere in or dictate to the IPL are wide off the mark. That is not the case,” ICC Chief Executive David Richardson said in a statement.

A newspaper report had claimed that the ICC wants to have a say in IPL policy matters in an attempt to gain control over the league.

“As the Chief Executives’ Committee and the ICC Board were advised over the past few days, the development of the Regulations has been led by the Working Group, on behalf of its Members, to ensure the long-term health and reputation of the sport internationally and domestically.”

Praising the successful conduct of the Indian Premier League (IPL), Richardson said the model was worth emulation. (ALSO READ: Test cricket is not dying, it needs a bit of boost: ICC CEO Dave Richardson)

“We are fortunate to have some outstanding T20 leagues, including the IPL, which set the gold standard for operations globally and this Working Group has taken into account those standards when developing the draft set of regulations. Our primary objective is to ensure other leagues around the world put in place the same minimum criteria and operate within a consistent framework,” Richardson said.

“The Working Group will continue developing the regulations over the coming months.” (ALSO READ: ICC persuading governments to make fixing a criminal offence: Dave Richardson)

The ICC, in a recent survey, found out that 95 percent of its professional players play only one T20 league and the regulations, according to sources, would only apply on the the remaining five percent who ply their trade in various leagues. It comprises mainly the West Indies players, who have picked T20 leagues over playing for the Caribbean team.

There is a possibility that there could be a cap of two to three leagues per player but it has not been finalised yet.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...ys-icc-chief-executive-dave-richardson-810720
 
Is BCCI backpedalling on the claims of the letter? Damn, indians have become so predictable.

1) Shoot yourself on the foot
2) Back pedal
3) Act like nothing happened and that the whole world is them
4) Make a bollywood movie - feelsgoodman
5) Rinse and repeat
 
Not really.

This is all politics.

Various people needed to do this to demonstrate their patriotism even though absolutely everyone knows nothing will happen here, and even as powerful as BCCI and Indian cricket is, no one will agree to such an absurd demand.

In fact this is one reason our demand was so outlandish; there's no real appetite in these quarters to do anything at all; but you have to make such a gesture, and when you make such stupid demands you can be confident nothing will actually happen.

Just commenting this to reassure any neutrals that we aren't actually literally insane. Just cynical self-interested politicos the same as all the other administrators.

So they just demanded to boycott Pakistan from the worldcup to hear from the ICC officially that yeah,that ain't happening.

Cool story bro.Its actually a case of overestimating your power and thats pretty humiliating.
 
Remember the 2007 WC, and how well it went after India's early ouster? :))

All thats fine. Right now bcci must try and get rid of the CoA asap. The supreme court has hinted that they do not want to be associated with the running of the bcci for much longer.

A ICC vs BCCI clash is brewing. Taking advantage of a weak bcci administration icc is trying to push a lot of things. Bcci has to be ready to counter that.

Thats the big issue now.
 
Remember the 2007 WC, and how well it went after India's early ouster? :))

This is a common myth and a bit of an own goal, the 2007 hardly hit the ICC at all. It was Star (an Indian company) that took the major hit.
 
All thats fine. Right now bcci must try and get rid of the CoA asap. The supreme court has hinted that they do not want to be associated with the running of the bcci for much longer.

A ICC vs BCCI clash is brewing. Taking advantage of a weak bcci administration icc is trying to push a lot of things. Bcci has to be ready to counter that.

Thats the big issue now.

Life is not an action movie, yaar!. Stop dramatizing everything.
 
All thats fine. Right now bcci must try and get rid of the CoA asap. The supreme court has hinted that they do not want to be associated with the running of the bcci for much longer.

A ICC vs BCCI clash is brewing. Taking advantage of a weak bcci administration icc is trying to push a lot of things. Bcci has to be ready to counter that.

Thats the big issue now.

It can be hoped that it will happen soon.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-out-of-cricket-adminstration-in-india/371075
 
Life is not an action movie, yaar!. Stop dramatizing everything.


Life is full of actions only. It doesnt restrict itself to punching, kicking or jumping only. Any act that one performs is an action itself. By the way many action films have been inspired from real incidents.
 
All thats fine. Right now bcci must try and get rid of the CoA asap. The supreme court has hinted that they do not want to be associated with the running of the bcci for much longer.

A ICC vs BCCI clash is brewing. Taking advantage of a weak bcci administration icc is trying to push a lot of things. Bcci has to be ready to counter that.

Thats the big issue now.
Nothing of the sort will happen. BCCI and ICC will reach a compromise, as always.
 
Then why did ICC scrap that format ? Keep deluding urself.

Because the broadcasters are still major stakeholder. I'm not the one deluding myself here, your point of view is based on pure speculation. My point of view is based on the fact of the 2007 World Cup being one of the most financially successful in history for the ICC up until that point.
 
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