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ICC World Cup 2019 : Points table, Net Run Rates, qualifying scenarios & Stats thread

Aman said:
If England loses to India, they will have to beat us to finish with 10 points, hope Bangladesh loses to India and beats Pakistan to qualify ahead of Pakistan (9 points) and Bangladesh (9 points).
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Would New Zealand prefer to play Australia or India in the Semi-Finals?
 
Aman said:
We'd lose both, but I don't want to lose to Aus again. So India.
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Against Aus it will be repeat of CWC2015 final.

Against India you have better chance bowling first and hope the ball is swinging for Boult.

Williamson is the most defensive captain out there. He let off pressure many times from being on top i.e Thisara Perera innings, Carlos Braithwaite innings, bringing Munro when RRR is 6.4.
 
Aman said:
We'd lose both, but I don't want to lose to Aus again. So India.
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You might change your opinion after Saturday's match, and even though all Pakistanis are backing Australia to increase our chances of progressing, still think it will be a very close game with New Zealand winning it, if Martin Guptill finally fires.
 
Good that Sri Lanka lost to South Africa. Now even if they win out their two remaining games, if Pakistan win out their two remaining games, Pakistan will be above. So the only thing out of our hands now is England's matches, hopefully England don't win both. It's in our hands to finish above both Bangladesh and Sri Lanka now.
 
farazaidi said:
Sorry bro but to be brutally honest, you dont deserve anything. Champions are crowned on the basis of their victories and not how analysts describe them. How beautiful or ugly or brutal that may be, what matters is which team managed to cross over the line.

I just have this deserve thing, a term used by a certain Pakistani to derail the performance of his national team. If Bangla lose to India and defeat PAK and manage to qualify still, they would richly deserve that. Good luck Bangla :inzi2
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Didn't I say the exact same thing? What are you actually disagreeing with?
 
BDfanforever said:
Against Aus it will be repeat of CWC2015 final.

Against India you have better chance bowling first and hope the ball is swinging for Boult.

Williamson is the most defensive captain out there. He let off pressure many times from being on top i.e Thisara Perera innings, Carlos Braithwaite innings, bringing Munro when RRR is 6.4.
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That's fair, that is a problem he does have. He lets things slip away when he should go for the kill, McCullum use to go for the kill. Kane lets teams back into games when they're there to finish off.
 
BDfanforever said:
Against Aus it will be repeat of CWC2015 final.

Against India you have better chance bowling first and hope the ball is swinging for Boult.

Williamson is the most defensive captain out there. He let off pressure many times from being on top i.e Thisara Perera innings, Carlos Braithwaite innings, bringing Munro when RRR is 6.4.
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Id rather play vs Australia. We have a better chance vs them than vs the indian spinners. We struggled in the odis vs the Indian attack without bumrah playing. We bowled decently but yeah Id rather play vs OZ. Would still be underdogs but def a better chance than vs India.
 
Nz beats Aus and Eng
Aus loses to Nz and SA
Ind loses to Eng beat Bang lose to SL
Pak beat Afg and Bang
Pak vs NZ semifinal Pak wins
Aus vs Ind semifinal Ind wins
Pak vs Ind final

This is what I am hoping happens
 
Usman Chadda said:
Funny, how NZ was this awesome team before playing Pakistan, but now are nothing to be concerned about.

The lengths people go to... :)))
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Lol what? NZ are lucky to even come this close to qualification thanks to a washed out match against India. If NZ can't even beat the team that they dominated over the last 5 years , they don't have much of a chance against Australia. :)
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Lol what? NZ are lucky to even come this close to qualification thanks to a washed out match against India. If NZ can't even beat the team that they dominated over the last 5 years , they don't have much of a chance against Australia. :)
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I told you from the get go this team isn't good. And they would overachieve if they make the Semis. I was expecting 5th or 6th.

I'm surprised they've made the SFs without playing well in the tournament.

Other teams have been worse and choked away games they should have won. I thought it was us just winning and we'd come through and prove it wasn't luck but I was wrong. This team is a one and done if they make the semis and for the sake of the comp it would be better if a stronger team goes through or we're going to have a very one sided and predictable Semi.
 
Aman said:
I told you from the get go this team isn't good. And they would overachieve if they make the Semis. I was expecting 5th or 6th.

I'm surprised they've made the SFs without playing well in the tournament.

Other teams have been worse and choked away games they should have won. I thought it was us just winning and we'd come through and prove it wasn't luck but I was wrong. This team is a one and done if they make the semis and for the sake of the comp it would be better if a stronger team goes through or we're going to have a very one sided and predictable Semi.
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Selecting Munro was a very poor decision. NZ will be a different team once they get better starts from openers.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Selecting Munro was a very poor decision. NZ will be a different team once they get better starts from openers.
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Our batting is rubbish and I think it's too late to solve the opening issues. I'm going into games expecting scores of 0/1 or 5/2.
 
Aman said:
If England loses to India, they will have to beat us to finish with 10 points, hope Bangladesh loses to India and beats Pakistan to qualify ahead of Pakistan (9 points) and Bangladesh (9 points).
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Yeah I was looking at the points table & fixtures last night, and noticed this as well.

To be honest I think it is quite a likely overall scenario.

England certainly gave themselves a cushion by winning those four games earlier in the tournament, as even now (and even if they also lose to India) they will *still* have a good chance of reaching the semis.

Feels like a bit of a shameful blag on our part to be honest, given our horrendously poor performances against Sri Lanka and Australia. (No complaints about the Pakistan game which was more of a closely matched thriller)
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan move into top 4 & put pressure on England & Bangladesh.<br><br>Key matches to come: <br><br>Eng to play India & NZ<br>Bangladesh to play India & Pakistan<br>S Lanka to play WI & India<br>Pakistan to play Bangladesh<br>NZ are playing Australia & still to play England<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <br><br> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvAfg?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvAfg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <a href="https://t.co/c2NTpLK1GN">pic.twitter.com/c2NTpLK1GN</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1145015274397212672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So now if Pakistan beats Bangladesh and England loses even one more match, it means Pakistan is through. Is this correct??
 
Is the pitch tomorrow anything like the one we played New Zealand on?...
 
shaykh said:
Is the pitch tomorrow anything like the one we played New Zealand on?...
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New pitch, supposed to be flat patta.

England will win if they win the toss and bat first.

The complaining from English players and the media will ensure they get their favourite pancake.
 
Sin Nombre said:
New pitch, supposed to be flat patta.

England will win if they win the toss and bat first.

The complaining from English players and the media will ensure they get their favourite pancake.
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Bairstow has no excuses now :)
 
Couch Cricketer said:
Nz beats Aus and Eng
Aus loses to Nz and SA
Ind loses to Eng beat Bang lose to SL
Pak beat Afg and Bang
Pak vs NZ semifinal Pak wins
Aus vs Ind semifinal Ind wins
Pak vs Ind final

This is what I am hoping happens
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chalk out the first desired results as NZ are losing already
 
JaDed said:
nt necessarily, if Eng lose both and BD lose against Ind it would b qtr
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If Eng loses both, BD vs India is of little significance. Good for confidence boost but they have to beat PAK to qualify, regardless of INDvsBANG outcome
 
JibranAnsari said:
not much as pakistan can not match their net run rate , for paksitan australia nz match is irrelevant.
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No yet. NZ could get smashed 380vs180 against Eng & we may end up with an achievable target on NRR against BD (if required). You never know.
 
If Pakistan and New Zealand are tied on points is it on run rate or who won the head to head?
 
JibranAnsari said:
not much as pakistan can not match their net run rate , for paksitan australia nz match is irrelevant.
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Of course it’s good because they’ll want to win against England even if they have qualified...
Nobody wants to go into the semis on the back of three losses
 
farazaidi said:
If Eng loses both, BD vs India is of little significance. Good for confidence boost but they have to beat PAK to qualify, regardless of INDvsBANG outcome
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Yes.. then BD vs Pak will be qtr that was the original post..
 
aqeelPK said:
No yet. NZ could get smashed 380vs180 against Eng & we may end up with an achievable target on NRR against BD (if required). You never know.
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forget it dear. Even if NZ lose by 100 runs in both games, we have to defeat Bangladesh by 300+ runs. Just forget it already !
 
Your only realistic hope is for India to defeat England. Its almost certain that New Zealand will fold to the Poms specially considering the high the English will be on if they defeat us.
 
Australia is winning against NZ. So if India lose tomorrow, they'll most likely end up No. 2 on the table. Then IND vs PAK semi-final won't happen.

Semi 1 : AUS vs PAK/NZ/BAN
Semi 2: IND vs ENG/NZ
 
NZ are pretty much sorted for the semis despite this heavy defeat, but perhaps they may end up in the 4th spot if they remain on 11 points and that NRR is inferior
 
Guys, no matter what we do we will not qualify based on NRR. The only way to qualify is for England to lose against India and then beat Bangladesh.

No other result matters nor does it make a difference. NRR doesn’t matter. Only these 2 games.
 
Even if Pak score 380 and bowl out BD for 180 , NRR won't be positive. PAK can't qualify on NRR now. Just hope that England loses one and beat BD. No other chance
 
uberkoen said:
Guys, no matter what we do we will not qualify based on NRR. The only way to qualify is for England to lose against India and then beat Bangladesh.

No other result matters nor does it make a difference. NRR doesn’t matter. Only these 2 games.
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Or NZ beating Eng..
 
Here's how it stands after the conclusion of both games today...


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Updated table after New Zealand's loss to Australia <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <br><br>Key matches to come: <br><br>England to play India & New Zealand<br>Bangladesh to play India & Pakistan<br>Sri Lanka to play West Indies & India<br>Pakistan to play Bangladesh<br>New Zealand to play England<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <a href="https://t.co/fLwC0PVOue">pic.twitter.com/fLwC0PVOue</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1145058704271773696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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not a bad result for pak..nz might have something to play for now against eng if india fail to beat eng
 
Pakistan finally finding themselves the right side of that pink line...
 
I called us losing 4 straight and being out of the WC, we're half way there.
 
Even when I expect nothing, this team still manages to disappoint.

I would have preferred missing out narrowly than to qualify to the Semis like we have.

We have zero right to be in the Semis and will serve nothing as a walkover match.

India and Aus should be doing their best to ensure they finish second and face us as it will guarantee a Final.
 
aqeelPK said:
No yet. NZ could get smashed 380vs180 against Eng & we may end up with an achievable target on NRR against BD (if required). You never know.
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highly unlikely , our best route is to win next match and pray that england lose against india.
 
Mitchell Starc is on course to finish as the leading wicket-taker for 2 consecutive World Cups.

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Aman said:
Even when I expect nothing, this team still manages to disappoint.

I would have preferred missing out narrowly than to qualify to the Semis like we have.

We have zero right to be in the Semis and will serve nothing as a walkover match.

India and Aus should be doing their best to ensure they finish second and face us as it will guarantee a Final.
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Pakistan will be a walkover for India

New Zealand for Australua.

So both of these sides will be happy and cue up for: India vs Australia final.
 
Aman said:
Yes.

This team is absolute ****.
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It's been a world cup of small margins. Pakistan's game against Sri Lanka was rained out. While NZ's game against India was rained out. I would've rather played Sri Lanka than India.

That being said, you never know. Maybe all of NZ's losses are out of its system or will be once the semis start...

Have faith.
 
JibranAnsari said:
highly unlikely , our best route is to win next match and pray that england lose against india.
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Yes I agree. NZ sitting at 3rd on the table by a yard (brathwaite), we need to smash like 50 sixes to overtake them on NRR. Cruel rule this. They should look head to head record first. :P
 
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