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ICC World Cup 2023: Pakistan vs Netherlands | Match 2 | Hyderabad | 06 October | Pakistan innings

mominsaigol said:
Babar still can't play spin 😂😂. Hasaranga exposed him, then everyone on Asia cup exposed him now nedtherlands exposing him but he's somehow world no 1 batsmen.
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Can't play decent spin, can't play decent (140+) pace. But stating this crystal clear fact gets you labelled as either "hater" or "troll". This was the only possible match where he could have plodded towards a typical 120 ball 100 to an eventual 150 from 145 & he messed it up completely. Looks like his prolonged overstay on top of the ranking is finally coming to end. The misery needs to be put out of it's breath.
 
IMMY69 said:
This Dutch team reminds me of the 90's Zimbabwe team.
They play as a collective unit, keep to their disciplines and field like demons.
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This Pakistan team in playing like 1952 version
 
mominsaigol said:
At this point might as well have rizzu open with saud at no 4.

Imam is useless like I have been saying since I got here. Rizzu is useless at no 4 but it's clear he's a top order bat, Nybpoat about rizzu, Imam and fakhar have aged so well ong.
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Was never convinced by the imam fakhar opening partnership. Always thought it was worse than Rizwan-Babar yet the other got more flack. Those two are more consistent in a less consistent format. I almost always feel that you can count on a solid opening platform in t20s. In Odis however our openers literally can’t even play out the first few overs together, always one of them gets out early and creates panic, and then rely on Babar (not today) coming in and stabilising. Problem is we don’t know if it’s imam or fakhar or both as we never try any other opening partnership combinations (involving them or without)
 
Why is everyone so dramatic?

Plenty of batting to come and we have kept the run rate up. Still on for 300+.
 
ads101 said:
Was never convinced by the imam fakhar opening partnership. Always thought it was worse than Rizwan-Babar yet the other got more flack. Those two are more consistent in a less consistent format. I almost always feel that you can count on a solid opening platform in t20s. In Odis however our openers literally can’t even play out the first few overs together, always one of them gets out early and creates panic, and then rely on Babar (not today) coming in and stabilising. Problem is we don’t know if it’s imam or fakhar or both as we never try any other opening partnership combinations (involving them or without)
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I'm aware bro, I saw your posts advocating for rizzu to open.

I don't haye rizwan like others on this post, I just hate him at no 4 because he's not a good player to enter if the platform has been set, he kinda ruins it. But he's an excellent player when it comes to building and establishing a platform, unlike imam who goes on his merry way and doesn't give a damn about RR and Fakhar who tries to hack his way.
 
Scorecard is broken because the 14th over ended up being a 5 ball over.. they forgot to bowl the final ball. It broke the scorecard as it must be programmed to have a minimum of 6 balls an over.
 
Unnecessary panicking. These two will score 80+ and Pakistan will score 280+.
That'll be more than enough for NL.
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Such a contrast with Rizwan and Saud batting together

Class vs rubbish
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It's cause of footwork. Saud has some of the best footwork I've ever seen, pure front foot and backfoot player. It's why he's so good, solid timer too.
 
160KPH said:
Scorecard is broken because the 14th over ended up being a 5 ball over.. they forgot to bowl the final ball. It broke the scorecard as it must be programmed to have a minimum of 6 balls an over.
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Thanks for the info!
 
mominsaigol said:
I said this earlier, Rizwan shpuld open,

The guy does well whenever he comes onto the crease bu the 5th to 8th over but does horribly if he enters during the 25 to 30th.

Rizzu is limited but knows how to work with what he's got. Saud is a natural no 4 and rizzu is 100x better then imam, Abdullah and fakhar (with current form).
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Among the thousands of statements you’ve been making, you’ve also consistently been criticising him and asking for him to be dropped.

Don’t jump on the support bandwagon just because he’s doing well bro unless you’re ready to acknowledge you were wrongly criticising him before.
 
Sherazkhalid said:
Please don't name Afridi in batsmen's list, he was a tulla through and through, one Indian friend of mine watched a Pakistani stream and was like wow I didn't know Afridi was that popular in Pakistan, doesn't make sense and I was like yes it does not.
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Well Afridi popular in India too.. so that friend is not much in to cricket..
 
We shouzld look to score 280-300 to get a good NRR boost, NL wont score more than 150 on this pitch.
 
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This guy Shakeel is so eye pleasing .. Tiny and eye pleasing, reminds me of my hero SRT. 😍
 
ExpressPacer said:
The Netherlands are team full of mercenaries so they are actually almost as good as a full-member side. Full of quality Kiwi and South African players that played at the highest level.
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That's true.
Even the Zimbabwe Team had an Ex Aussie player leading them at the 1992 World Cup.
They also had the Flower brothers and Streak who all played English County Cricket
 
People keep sleeping on this Netherlands team, pair this with the pitch turning flat in the second innings and our bowling attack I don't trust us defending anything less than 300
 
The ball seems to be sticking into the wicket for 20 to 25 overs in the first innings. Dew helps with batting in the second. Was the case in the game yesterday too. 275+ should be minimum
 
So apparently Ned have a better bowling attack than Pakistan and yet before Asia Cup our fans wee hyping us to win the illusive double (Asia Cup & WC) 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
ExpressPacer said:
Among the thousands of statements you’ve been making, you’ve also consistently been criticising him and asking for him to be dropped.

Don’t jump on the support bandwagon just because he’s doing well bro unless you’re ready to acknowledge you were wrongly criticising him before.
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You don't read my posts, especially when I made a is Muhammad rizwan currently the worlds best batsmen as my first post.

I've said rizzu either shpuld open or be dropped altogether cause he's useless at 4 assuming a platform is built he ruins it but if it isn't built he can build it well.

I've advocated rizzu > Imam.

Rizzu isn't the problem, he's a problem at no 4.

Imam is a problem, a player who I will never rate no matter how many times he scores his stat pad 100.
 
Farabi said:
The strike rate brigade didnt want Saud. They wanted Haris as If Pak will play 50 overs throughout the tournament.
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But Haris can easily slot in as an opener. Imam and Fakhar are tailender level atm
 
Pathetic display by Pakistani Batsmen. But I still think they will score around 325. Remember even in Asia cup they were 130-4 against Nepal before Babar and Ifti notched up 100s to take teh score to 340. Pakistan will win this match comfortably in teh end but batting will be a concern when they play the big boys as such huge comebacks wont be easy then.
 
mominsaigol said:
You don't read my posts, especially when I made a is Muhammad rizwan currently the worlds best batsmen as my first post.

I've said rizzu either shpuld open or be dropped altogether cause he's useless at 4 assuming a platform is built he ruins it but if it isn't built he can build it well.

Kamas kam read my posts 😂. I've advocated rizzu > Imam.

Rizzu isn't the problem, he's a problem at no 4.

Imam is a problem, a player who I will never rate no matter how many times he scores his stat pad 100.
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He averages 45 @ 90 SR batting at #4. You can say that his game does not fit batting at #4 but he has been vastly successful there.
 
ex-q-zit said:
Pathetic display by Pakistani Batsmen. But I still think they will score around 325. Remember even in Asia cup they were 130-4 against Nepal before Babar and Ifti notched up 100s to take teh score to 340. Pakistan will win this match comfortably in teh end but batting will be a concern when they play the big boys as such huge comebacks wont be easy then.
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325 from here would take a lot of hard work
 
160KPH said:
He averages 45 @ 90 SR batting at #4. You can say that his game does not fit batting at #4 but he has been vastly successful there.
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Ik what he averages, the issue is rizzu is best when he's building a platform, if imam, Babar and fakhar do well, when rizwan comes in then He ruins the platform set.

He however is great at recovering collapses and opening in t20.

He's a platform builder kinda like Joe root is, he isn't someone who builds upon an already established platform.
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
Im saying this for 100th time, Babar Azam is the 2nd most overhyped and over rated cricketer of all times only behind Afridi.
He is mentally weak, timid, soft player who can only bash club level bowlers on flat tracks in meaningless bilaterals.
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Was Afridi mentally weak,timid & soft? You are partially right about feasting on average bowlers, but Afridi has played a couple of blinders against peak Aus & SA on their backyard (very few though).
 
Omer2002 said:
exactly..they have a power line up..I said all along today is our world cup final only match we could win and it looks like we are struggling big itme
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We need to accept that we're more likely end up somewhere in the bottom 4.

The mentality of this team is the worst of all the sides participating in the WC. This is what happens when you've been so used to feasting on second and third string bowling attacks that is becomes second nature. The moment these guys have to come out of their comfort zone, they crumble because they've not been accustomed to it.

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh may have inferior batsmen but at least they play according to the demands of modern white ball cricket whereas our "shupastars", Babar and Rizwan, merely play for their stats. A precedent set by Misbah following his innings in Mohali and that's exactly what he's instilled in these players when he became Head Coach.
 
Saud is class.

They have a gem in him to round out the middle order. Just need to solve the openers.
 
4 by Rizwan.

He looks to be an improved player of spin bowling. Babar should learn from him.
 
Never seen a World Cup game so poorly broadcast! amateurish camera coverage coupled with no scorecard.
 
babar are imam are overrated.rizwan is class.people need to take their anger out on the players.
 
Decent partnership

Need to bat till 30 over at least these two
 
After 19 overs 98/3. A good solid partnership between Rizwan and Saud. these guys need to go deeper.
 
topspin said:
We need to accept that we're more likely end up somewhere in the bottom 4.

The mentality of this team is the worst of all the sides participating in the WC. This is what happens when you've been so used to feasting on second and third string bowling attacks that is becomes second nature. The moment these guys have to come out of their comfort zone, they crumble because they've not been accustomed to it.

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh may have inferior batsmen but at least they play according to the demands of modern white ball cricket whereas our "shupastars", Babar and Rizwan, merely play for their stats. A precedent set by Misbah following his innings in Mohali and that's exactly what he's instilled in these players when he became Head Coach.
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This is where I disagree. Rizzu doesn't play for stats unlike imam and Babar, He genuinely tries his hardest. He's a Crybaby con wanting his batting slots and he's a media troll, but as a player he does try. Him being limited on certain stroke play isn't his fault and in terms of fitness he's fitter then babar who now got that belly out.

Rizzu is good if you look at him as a batter only, but he's bad when you factor in his media nonsense 😂😂.
 
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