ICC World Cup 2023: South Africa (357/4) seals dominant victory over New Zealand (167) by 190 runs

[jnaveen1980]

SA/India/Australia three best teams. They deserve to be in the semis. They are already there. 4th best. NZ vs Pak vs Afghanistan. World cup is still wide open which is a good thing

 

[soso_killer]

Super impressed with Jansen over the last few games btw. Not necessarily the wickets column but the control he's displayed, bowling yokers as well. I hope that continues. Coetzee is the biggest concern. You can't be going at 7 or 8 an over irrespective of circumstance or wicket at play.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Super impressed with Jansen over the last few games btw. Not necessarily the wickets column but the control he's displayed, bowling yokers as well. I hope that continues. Coetzee is the biggest concern. You can't be going at 7 or 8 an over irrespective of circumstance or wicket at play.

His twin brother can be a scary prospet if he develops just like Jansen.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

RvD was given out on empire's call when it appeared to be missing leg. Can't have it both ways unfortunately

It hit leg RVD decision. Anyway SA won't win its a waste if SA or NZ make semis

 

[soso_killer]

Actually SA should have walked towards the target easily. They got out to some nothing deliveries needlessly. They will do a better job next time chasing. I don't think it is an issue SA has to worry about.

I'm not so sure. I was livid with that chase. But DK (Karthik) said something that stuck with me.

He said this side doesn't have the temperament to take games deep (maybe due to our past scars). Basically they know a collapse or cluster of wickets is on the cards.

So they don't want to be behind the run rate (or find themselves chasing it) should it come to that eventuality. So whoever is in is given the license to have a go rather than to slow down. I'm just not sure if this strategy is sustainable.

Basically they want the lower/middle order to chase under 100 runs at no more than 3 or 4 an over required

 

[soso_killer]

It hit leg RVD decision. Anyway SA won't win its a waste if SA or NZ make semis

He was out on empire's call. So you can't have it both ways.

Better than having Pakistan there that's for sure

 

[GLORY OF '92]

He was out on empire's call. So you can't have it both ways.

Better than having Pakistan there that's for sure

Well we all know who chokes in every knock out

 

[jnaveen1980]

I'm not so sure. I was livid with that chase. But DK (Karthik) said something that stuck with me.

He said this side doesn't have the temperament to take games deep (maybe due to our past scars). Basically they know a collapse or cluster of wickets is on the cards.

So they don't want to be behind the run rate (or find themselves chasing it) should it come to that eventuality. So whoever is in is given the license to have a go rather than to slow down. I'm just not sure if this strategy is sustainable.

Basically they want the lower/middle order to chase under 100 runs at no more than 3 or 4 an over required

In such matches all their shots invariably goes straight to fielder. Often times fielder doesn't even have to move. The ice cool temperament is missing from everyone. When you can do it with singles you just do it. That is what they needed to do. That is what chasers like Kohli does. Just relies largely on singles. He knows he has big game when needed. Until then no need to panic.

 

[FearlessRoar]

South Africa went to the top of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup points table after a vehement display against New Zealand in Pune.

South Africa came out on top against close competitors New Zealand, recording their first win over the Kiwis since 1999 in the men's Cricket World Cup.

Marco Jansen's double strike lifted South Africa in the first Powerplay before Gerald Coetzee and Kagiso Rabada followed up with wickets of their own. Keshav Maharaj ensured that the spinners had their say and struck four times to ensure a dominant South Africa win.

Earlier, a 200-run second-wicket stand between centurions Quinton de Kock and Rassie van der Dussen set the base for yet another 300-plus total for South Africa. The Proteas were also boosted by a late charge from David Miller (53).

Match 32: South Africa beat New Zealand by 190 runs

Marco Jansen finished with 2/20 at the end of the first Powerplay, wherein he accounted for southpaws Devon Conway and Rachin Ravindra. New Zealand tried their best to go for quick runs but lost Conway pretty early to a sharp catch from Aiden Markram.

Will Young and Ravindra tried to open their arms and go for quick runs. But Jansen struck yet again in the ninth over to get Ravindra caught at fine leg. Two down without too many, the New Zealand lineup needed a lift from their middle-order batters.

However, Gerald Coetzee and Kagiso Rabada ensured that the built-up pressure wasn't let off. Coetzee had Young caught behind with a peach, and Rabada had the New Zealand skipper Tom Latham caught in the covers.

Mitchell was holding fort for the Blackcaps, before he fell to Maharaj in the 19th over. He lofted one down the wicket, where he was expertly caught by David Miller.

New Zealand crumbled under the pressure exerted by South Africa bowlers, especially the turn of Maharaj, and lost their next four for merely 43 runs.

A number of lusty blows from Glenn Phillips against the run of play helped New Zealand bat till the 36th over.

In the afternoon, tidy work from New Zealand ensured that South Africa had to work for their runs in Pune. And skipper Temba Bavuma led the way with a number of confident strokes, especially through the cover region.

However, Bavuma was undone by Trent Boult. The experienced seamer got the South Africa captain to drive a delivery which landed at an uncomfortable length and induced a thick edge that went through to first slip.

Rassie van der Dussen then came together with Quinton de Kock to take forward the Proteas batting effort. They kept the scoring rate in the higher ranges of four till the 20-over mark, with a number of aggressive shots.

De Kock reached his half-century, his fourth fifty-plus score of the tournament, in the 21st over.

There were concerned faces in the New Zealand camp, who already have a number of injuries in their numbers after Matt Henry walked back into the pavilion without finishing his sixth over. The pacer had pulled a hamstring after the third ball of the 27th over, and the remaining deliveries were completed by James Neesham.

After going at a steady pace for the majority of innings, De Kock and van der Dussen picked pace after the 30-over mark. They added 39 runs off the next five overs. De Kock then brought up his fourth Cricket World Cup hundred with a maximum off Neesham in the 36th over.

The batters were already dictating the terms of play and New Zealand needed a quick breakthrough to pull things back. The Black Caps finally had their way in the 40th over, when Southee accounted for de Kock.

However, this brought the dangerous David Miller onto the crease. Along with van der Dussen, he added a quickfire 78 for the third wicket.

South Africa hit a total of nine sixes in the final Powerplay.

With this game, they already have the most sixes in any edition of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup.

Earlier, Tom Latham flipped the coin and decided to field. Tim Southee returned to the lineup in place of Lockie Ferguson, who was sidelined with an Achilles concern.

Temba Bavuma said that they would've batted first anyhow. He expressed that the wicket was on the drier side and that the ball might skid in the evening. Kagiso Rabada came in for Tabraiz Shamsi after he missed the Proteas' recent match against Pakistan with a back problem.

Kane Williamson was in contention to return from his thumb injury to take on the Proteas, but the Black Caps avoided taking that call.

Two of the early pacesetters at the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 meet, with the winner set to move a step closer to locking in a semi-final berth with another victory here.

South Africa are currently sitting second in the standings, one spot ahead of New Zealand, with five wins mostly built on devastating displays when setting a lofty target in four of those triumphs.

The Proteas have been shakier when chasing a target, falling 38 runs short of the 246 that Netherlands set for them for what turned into their only defeat at the tournament so far, and later staggering to the line for a less-than-convincing one-wicket victory against Pakistan.

New Zealand will be out to get their Cricket World Cup campaign back on track after four initial victories were followed by back-to-back losses to India and Australia.

A third consecutive loss would leave the Black Caps well within reach of the chasing pack led by Pakistan and Afghanistan.

New Zealand hold a 6-2 advantage over South Africa at past ICC Men's Cricket World Cups and are currently on a streak of five consecutive wins in head-to-head encounters at the tournament.

The most famous of these Kiwi triumphs came in the 2015 semi-final when New Zealand won by 4 wickets with 1 ball remaining as the D/L method was required.

Another semi-final clash would be on the cards if South Africa (second) and New Zealand (third) hold onto their current positions in the standings.

The Black Caps also won by four wickets then the two sides last met in an ODI though that was curiously four years ago at the Cricket World Cup in 2019.

 

[soso_killer]

Well we all know who chokes in every knock out

You have to be in the semi finals to choke in the first place. Get there, then talk. At the end of the day each team will face each other. It would be absurd to root for a team that was not good enough to finish in the top 4

 

[FearlessRoar]

South Africa's thrilling victory over New Zealand was a true display of skills.

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[soso_killer]

In such matches all their shots invariably goes straight to fielder. Often times fielder doesn't even have to move. The ice cool temperament is missing from everyone. When you can do it with singles you just do it. That is what they needed to do. That is what chasers like Kohli does. Just relies largely on singles. He knows he has big game when needed. Until then no need to panic.

What was disappointing for me was that we had the rate at around 4 to 4.5 and we refused to take singles. You're 100% right, singles would have sufficed. But something tells me scars are still there even though most of this team weren't part of the choking sides.

They don't want to leave the lower order with 50 from 50. They don't back themselves which is sad

 

[jnaveen1980]

What was disappointing for me was that we had the rate at around 4 to 4.5 and we refused to take singles. You're 100% right, singles would have sufficed. But something tells me scars are still there even though most of this team weren't part of the choking sides.

They don't want to leave the lower order with 50 from 50. They don't back themselves which is sad

Ironical thing was it was the singles from Shamsi and Maharaja that saw them through something almost all the south african top order could have done. They pretty much imploded similarly in world T20. Semi final was there for taking chasing a modest total.

 

[Ahmed216]

No dew tonight.
Every team needs to be wary of this SA attack

 

[Raja Ishtiaq]

So you are advocating blatant shady conduct, do you have any idea how damaging it be if it blows up which usually does when it is us because we are too stupid to even game the system.

Blows up? How? Will Babar send another text to zaka which he will televise?

There are two known injuries already. Just need to milk it and send one home. Simple.

 

[Ahmed216]

I've read a few posts in the forum at the start of the WC that this will be a win toss, bowl first and win game kind of tournament. They badly wanted to brand this as a toss WC, alas this isn't a evening T20 game in the stupid dubai cricket stadium.

Many including Indian posters said chasing has been easy in Pune. Dont understand why few of Indian posters are so touchy.

 

[Ahmed216]

Bechare haters of Pakistan. They live to experience hate another day!

LOL at the haters hoping for NZ to beat SA so that Pakistan would be out of the race for the SF!

They are definitely wary of our team. Need more such performances from brother Maharaj in coming days

 

[jnaveen1980]

Many including Indian posters said chasing has been easy in Pune. Dont understand why few of Indian posters are so touchy.

This is based on the history. Anyway if you have an attack that can inflict damage before dew forms it doesn't matter. Teams that are familar will wait till 20th over before taking risks.

 

[Syed1]

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Gibbs dropping Steve Waugh... I thought my reference was obvious enough

 

[Aman]

One of the worst performances I've seen from us in a long time.

Baffling decisions from the toss to trying to win the game when 80/4. Should have shut up shop and batted to 250-280.

 

[soso_killer]

Gibbs dropping Steve Waugh... I thought my reference was obvious enough

Yeah, I re-read it afterwards. I thought you misunderstood my post initially

 

[Aman]

NZ have gone in wrong direction since Williamson injury

Biggest issue is we're stuck with Latham who inspires no confidence at 5.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Many including Indian posters said chasing has been easy in Pune. Dont understand why few of Indian posters are so touchy.

That reply was in response to some other people who were naive enough to brand this as toss WC just after a handful of matches. would've done the same even if this WC was in AUS, SA etc. Relax, all is well.