If the ICC were to ban Pakistan from the WT20 or future tournaments, would you really mind?

[DeadlyVenom]

If I am wrong about Indo-Pak match and the importance of Pakistan selling this to the Indian markets let's see if Indian media bids as heavily for India as Uganda match in the world cup.

Ball is in India's court.

 

[Technics 1210]

Look, we are just touching the surface!

Think of the underworld betting syndicates and fixers in India!

What a way to be made redundant!

 

[Local.Dada]

What's contribution of Indian team in the Indo-Pak match? Are they selling raffle tickets? They are only showing up to play too.

In the context of Indo-PK match Indian viewers and overseas viewers are rating Pakistan equally. It is bigger than rest of the tournament combined and the reason ICC functions.

Indian team’s job is to show up and play, however broadcaster, Sponsors who sustain the business model are all Indians. That business interest is directly proportional to popularity of cricket and cricketers in India. So, yeah India has the leverage. Pakistan gets paid (a lot of money) to show up and be part of the Indian show. If playing Pak was such a short cut money printing venture, we would be seeing Ind-Pak bilaterals every other week.

The value is leveraged for the benefit of all member boards. If India swallows it pride and plays Pakistan, it’s only benefitting everyone. Pak boycott will only hurt ICC meaning everyone including itself. What’s it that you are not getting here?

 

[Technics 1210]

If all else fails, Modi can join the IPL cheerleaders and show them a thing or two on how to bust a move!

 

[HalBass9]

Indian viewer and overseas viewers who pay a subscription model. Pakistanis who watch it on local government channels add very little value.

Yes India and Pak fans (mostly Indian fans) who buy tickets, merchandise and also boost local economy will add value.

Pakistanis only contribution is to show up and play.

Work in a corporate world? huh?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

So now you guys are pretending you don't understand how media works?

Media everywhere today is made of clickbaits for maximum attention.

You realise media in India is private entities which are not controlled by BCCI or government right?

It's funny how in such times you guys pretend you don't have even the most basic understanding of how the world works. Now you are pretending you don't understand how media works.

No im not pretending how media works

but Indian Media takes it to next level as such it has made lot of Indians Gullible

For example Indian media Burned Imaginary port in Lahore and Desyroyed one in Karachi. Next morning they were seen given excuses to Indian public as to why they made them fool

 

[ethan hunt]

Nope, they are pointing at you and laughing at you for your juvenile stunts.

Mocking a child or punishing him when he throws tantrums for attention is not crying. It's the opposite of crying.

But hey you guys have lied about everything so far, so please continue lying some more.

Then why play against Pakistan? Have some shame or self respect. Which clearly the Indians have none of whether it is due to money or some sort of obsession with Pak.

 

[Local.Dada]

Work in a corporate world? huh?

You are jobless guy with 0 responsibilities or accountability? Huh? (Based on your views)

 

[HalBass9]

Nope, they are pointing at you and laughing at you for your juvenile stunts.

Mocking a child or punishing him when he throws tantrums for attention is not crying. It's the opposite of crying.

But hey you guys have lied about everything so far, so please continue lying some more.

Pakistan did what your government talked about but never actually did.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Indian team’s job is to show up and play, however broadcaster, Sponsors who sustain the business model are all Indians. That business interest is directly proportional to popularity of cricket and cricketers in India. So, yeah India has the leverage. Pakistan gets paid (a lot of money) to show up and be part of the Indian show. If playing Pak was such a short cut money printing venture, we would be seeing Ind-Pak bilaterals every other week.

The value is leveraged for the benefit of all member boards. If India swallows it pride and plays Pakistan, it’s only benefitting everyone. Pak boycott will only hurt ICC meaning everyone including itself. What’s it that you are not getting here?

Will BCCI vote against PCB for not playing?

how Ironic would it be if ICC puts it to vote that Pak will be ousted if it refuses to play India and BCCI votes in favor

 

[Local.Dada]

Then why play against Pakistan? Have some shame or self respect. Which clearly the Indians have none of whether it is due to money or some sort of obsession with Pak.

For the nth time, playing Pak in bilaterals makes money for BCCI, PCB only.

Playing in ICC tournaments benefits all member boards.

If India has money, no one is impressed until you make them also money. That’s why I agree India did swallow its pride and played Pak in Asia cup. Sometimes it’s not easy to pull the trigger when you have a lot more stake.

That’s your answer.

Now let me try to understand Pak’s emotion here, they just played India yesterday in U-19, are they boycotting due to security risks? Don’t think so. Did they say they are not playing due to Baloch issue or in solidarity with Bangladesh, what is the reason? That is called jalebi. India is being a hypocrite with their narrative and actions maybe but there is a method to their madness. Whats PCB’s plan here? Instead of blindly cheerleading, can you step back and think?

 

[Mainul]

Nice username. AndayWalaAllRounder

@AndayWalaAllRounder please suggest similar name for me. I want to change my profile name. Your name has very deep meaning

 

[HalBass9]

You are jobless guy with 0 responsibilities or accountability? Huh? (Based on your views)

This is a Pakistan vs India match. Two teams. End of story. That’s the foundation of the argument, without either team involved, it’s a completely different situation, yet you’re still pushing back against it.

When even the “jobless” guy understands how weak your defense is, it says a lot. Defending nonsense appears to be your full time occupation, and you still can’t get it right.

Stick to finishing assigned tasks in your corporate world, you are not there to contribute as a decision maker yet.

 

[Local.Dada]

Will BCCI vote against PCB for not playing?

how Ironic would it be if ICC puts it to vote that Pak will be ousted if it refuses to play India and BCCI votes in favor

Unless on Pak social media, I don’t think those voting results are ever released. Even the 14-2 voting, it was too obvious who are the 2, ICC would never do it, however as a funny hypothetical situation, it’s funny

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Indian team’s job is to show up and play,

The value is leveraged for the benefit of all member boards. If India swallows it pride and plays Pakistan, it’s only benefitting everyone. Pak boycott will only hurt ICC meaning everyone including itself. What’s it that you are not getting here?

No argument there. Pakistan has more to lose than India from the cancellation of this tie.

My point is the way it is framed that Pakistan receives money from ICC.

One can also argue that no board is as profitable or even profitable at all unless it plays India in bilateral, yet this argument is rarely made for other boards.

Pakistan is owed that money from ICC because historically Indian media ( which is desperate entity to BCCI) has valued them highly and paid more money to ensure this fixture takes place Vs an alternative fixture. It is not taking from something it hasn't contributed to.

 

[Local.Dada]

No argument there. Pakistan has more to lose than India from the cancellation of this tie.

My point is the way it is framed that Pakistan receives money from ICC.

One can also argue that no board is as profitable or even profitable at all unless it plays India in bilateral, yet this argument is rarely made for other boards.

Pakistan is owed that money from ICC because historically Indian media ( which is desperate entity to BCCI) has valued them highly and paid more money to ensure this fixture takes place Vs an alternative fixture. It is not taking from something it hasn't contributed to.

What Pakistan team thinks it is worth or it deserves is for PCB to evaluate and negotiate with ICC . ICC is run like a private business, not like a charity/NGO.

If Pak wants to use this as some kind of a negotiating tactic, . I am sure it’s for ICC to decide to either give in to PCB’s demands or cut their losses thinking it’s not worth it.

BCCI is at this point the third party. It just has a financial liability from this just like everyone else including PCB and other member boards.

Unless this is a way to undermine JayShah who is heading ICC, I don’t really see a reason for PCB to take panga with ICC. Anyway following days will make it crystal clear. I think Pak will play. All they have to do is perform well and all will be forgotten.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

I would definitely mind and not just because I support Pakistan.

A ban wouldn’t fix any real problems. It would only hurt the players, the fans, and the game itself. The cricketers train their whole lives to play at world events, and it’s unfair to take that away because of politics or disputes at board level.

Pakistan is an important part of international cricket. They bring strong competition, unpredictable matches, and huge fan interest. A World T20 or any major tournament without Pakistan would feel incomplete and less exciting for everyone, not just Pakistan supporters.

If there are disagreements or concerns, the ICC’s job is to resolve them through discussion, clear rules, and fairness. Using bans as a punishment sets a bad example and weakens the spirit of the game. Cricket is better when all teams are included and competing on the field, not pushed out of it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What has icc done other than back channel talks to convince pakistan to play india?

Icc started the same wsy vs Bangladesh.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I would definitely mind and not just because I support Pakistan.

A ban wouldn’t fix any real problems. It would only hurt the players, the fans, and the game itself. The cricketers train their whole lives to play at world events, and it’s unfair to take that away because of politics or disputes at board level.

Pakistan is an important part of international cricket. They bring strong competition, unpredictable matches, and huge fan interest. A World T20 or any major tournament without Pakistan would feel incomplete and less exciting for everyone, not just Pakistan supporters.

If there are disagreements or concerns, the ICC’s job is to resolve them through discussion, clear rules, and fairness. Using bans as a punishment sets a bad example and weakens the spirit of the game. Cricket is better when all teams are included and competing on the field, not pushed out of it.

Once pcb boycotts the match icc would be left with no option but to take harssh measures

 

[cricketjoshila]

No argument there. Pakistan has more to lose than India from the cancellation of this tie.

My point is the way it is framed that Pakistan receives money from ICC.

One can also argue that no board is as profitable or even profitable at all unless it plays India in bilateral, yet this argument is rarely made for other boards.

Pakistan is owed that money from ICC because historically Indian media ( which is desperate entity to BCCI) has valued them highly and paid more money to ensure this fixture takes place Vs an alternative fixture. It is not taking from something it hasn't contributed to.

It has been mentioned many times that except big3 no other board can flourish without icc handouts.


If pakistan doesn't play that fixture its not owed anything by the icc and to be blunt pakistan has little utility in the tournament

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Once pcb boycotts the match icc would be left with no option but to take harssh measures

Yes but a ban wouldn’t fix any problems as I said. They can put some monetary sanctions or whatever but let's see what they do.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Technically they do have a point of hostile behavior from BCCI and it’s instructions to not shake hands and to not take trophy from Pakistani ACC head, This insulting behavior can be used as a legal escape for PCB,
if you can’t respect us then why bother playing with us? That excuse is a valid point if the matters goes in to International court.

BCCI will then use their point that their government has instructed them to do so and PCB can then say that it’s also their government decision so in the end no penalties or anything.

 

[Devadwal]

Icc started the same wsy vs Bangladesh,

ICC already Convey the MSG to PCB and they have received it. Not officially but like how PCB Convey to ICC. checkmate ho gya unka

Bhut maze ane wale hai

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes but a ban wouldn’t fix any problems as I said. They can put some monetary sanctions or whatever but let's see what they do.

Ban will mean no one else tries this, a unreliable entity is permanently removed from the equation, you don't have to deal with the nuisance oa pcb again



You may not believe it but many indian owned teams in other leagues simply don't hire pakistanis because they don't want to deal with PCB.

 

[emranabbas]

There will be no ban

yes Pakistan will lose revenue but icc will lose bigger cut of the pie not just this tournament every icc tournament

Icc will be bankrupt before pcb are bankrupt

 

[cricketjoshila]

ICC already Convey the MSG to PCB and they have received it. Not officially but like how PCB Convey to ICC. checkmate ho gya unka

Bhut maze ane wale hai

Icc doesn't need to ban pcb from cricket, they just need to take away the recognition of matches thhat pakistan plays out side of icc events and refuse NOC to psL

 

[cricketjoshila]

There will be no ban

yes Pakistan will lose revenue but icc will lose bigger cut of the pie not just this tournament every icc tournament

Icc will be bankrupt before pcb are bankrupt

Pcb is already surviving on icc hand outs, how will they be bankrupt again?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It has been mentioned many times that except big3 no other board can flourish without icc handouts.


If pakistan doesn't play that fixture its not owed anything by the icc and to be blunt pakistan has little utility in the tournament

What utility other teams have in tournaments?

Pakistan has been semi finalists or more in almost every edition of this world cup format.

 

[Rana]

If Pak wants to use this as some kind of a negotiating tactic, . I am sure it’s for ICC to decide to either give in to PCB’s demands or cut their losses thinking it’s not worth it.

Ok bye…there goes your $500M

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Pcb is already surviving on icc hand outs, how will they be bankrupt again?

It is a weird way of looking at it.

Is BCCI also surviving on TV rights hands out?

 

[Buffet]

Vikrant Gupta mentioned in one of his videos that the ICC earned around $28 million from the Pakistani market whereas they will be dispursing $138 million to the PCB over 4 years and that the PCB was grotesquely overpaid relative to its actual value.

There are two components to it.

1) Reveue from Pakistani market
2) Revenue from Indian market due to Pakistan playing

You are only focusing on 1st and ignoring the 2nd. Hypothetically, lets assume that 5 major countries do not play with India. Do you think ICC will generate same revenue from indian market? Revenue will certainly take a hit. That's the 2nd component.

 

[Devadwal]

Yes but a ban wouldn’t fix any problems as I said. They can put some monetary sanctions or whatever but let's see what they do.

Taking a Hard stance means that no one will dare to stage such drama in the future.

What did you learn from the ICC's kicking out of Bangladesh from the World T20?

Either play or leave the tournament.

PS - THERE IS NO ICC TOURNAMENT WITHOUT INDIA , SO NOT APPLICABLE FOR INDIA. THIS IS THE TRUTH AND PAKISTANI LIKE IT OR NOT , THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

ICC already Convey the MSG to PCB and they have received it. Not officially but like how PCB Convey to ICC. checkmate ho gya unka

Bhut maze ane wale hai

Where is this message conveyed and on what basis?

 

[Devadwal]

There will be no ban

yes Pakistan will lose revenue but icc will lose bigger cut of the pie not just this tournament every icc tournament

Icc will be bankrupt before pcb are bankrupt

These delusional people's don't Even know anything, but always talk nonsense. ICC is not a property of single person

Whatever revenue ICC earned ( mostly done by BCCI) they are going to distribute among all nations .

Less revenues means , less distribution .

 

[The_Real_Deal]

 

[Technics 1210]

I can tell tou know, China will bankroll PCB's ambitions of a cricket renegade league! The Chinese will make BCCI Billions look like pennies.

If there is anything that unites the world it is a unified hate, and the BCCI, along with the cult, are GLOBALLY hated and despised.

Dont believe me? Just head over to social media and read what the English and Aussie fans have to say about India and the BCCI. If this isn't enough, read about how governments are deporting the cult in their shackles, restricting their visas, and exposing their fraud.

In the end India does what it does best, become subservient to their masters.

 

[Rana]

Where is this message conveyed and on what basis?

They sent Dharundar to Naqvi

 

[Devadwal]

No need to tell this like how PCB doens't sent any official letter to ICC , nor give any reason . This is why i Said ICC checkmate Pakistan.

Niw you can ask the PCB.

Where is this message conveyed and on what basis?

 

[Devadwal]

View attachment 161316

Uncountable Times this photos posted by Pakistani posters here

 

[Buffet]

Most of the viewership, after India, comes from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Even in countries like Australia and England, a large portion of the cricket audience is made up of subcontinent communities including people of Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Indian background who significantly contribute to overall viewership.

Domestic market of Pakistan and BD does not generate much revenue for ICC right now. Once economy of BD and Pakistan grows to support bigger broadcast deals then it will be a different situation.

You may be correct about market in Eng, Aus etc where eyeballs do translate to revenue.

Anyway, it's a stupid situation and hadled poorly by PCB. Once agreed to play in nuetral country , doing this stunt does not help any one iuncluding PCB in long-term. if it was about going and playing in India then PCB would have been well within it's rights to not play becasue Idnia is not willing to play in Pakistan.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

They sent Dharundar to Naqvi

These shameless guys were here telling us that champions trophy will be moved to South Africa - didn't happen.

Or that India is going to pull out of champions trophy and BCCI will compensate Star Sports by playing blockbus series v India A - didn't happen.

That there is no chance that BCCI will agree to hybrid model - SKY is going to get on a flight to an empty stadium.

They way they have talked rubbish in the past makes me surprised that they can continue to spout it so confidently now.

 

[Technics 1210]

Domestic market of Pakistan and BD does not generate much revenue for ICC right now. Once economy of BD and Pakistan grows to support bigger broadcast deals then it will be a different situation.

You may be correct about market in Eng, Aus etc where eyeballs do translate to revenue.

Anyway, it's a stupid situation and hadled poorly by PCB. Once agreed to play in nuetral country , doing this stunt does not help any one iuncluding PCB in long-term. if it was about going and playing in India then PCB would have been well within it's rights to not play becasue Idnia is not willing to play in Pakistan.

Why not say it was handled poorly by BCCI? It was BCCI that set the presedent for all of this? BCCI agreed to play in Pakistan for the CT25, and this after sending personal to assessment security, then pulled the same stunt.

We are sick and tired of your cultish mindset. Bore off with your hypocrisy and statistical insecurities.

 

[Devadwal]

These shameless guys were here telling us that champions trophy will be moved to South Africa - didn't happen.

Or that India is going to pull out of champions trophy and BCCI will compensate Star Sports by playing blockbus series v India A - didn't happen.

That there is no chance that BCCI will agree to hybrid model - SKY is going to get on a flight to an empty stadium.

They way they have talked rubbish in the past makes me surprised that they can continue to spout it so confidently now.

These shameless guys forget if pakistan was not agreed to hybrid model champion trophy cab be moved to any other place

But shameless board surrendered and accept the hybrid model after bug talk like SAAR WE WILL JOT THINK ABOUT HYBRID MODEL

ENTIRE. CHAMPION TROPHY WILL HELD IN PAKISTAN WITH OR WITHOUT INDIA.

Saram hai todi?

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan media headlines-
- Jay shah in trouble
- ICC in trouble
-bcci in trouble
-jio hotstar in trouble
-Ambani in trouble

Kya log hai ye

 

[emranabbas]

These shameless guys were here telling us that champions trophy will be moved to South Africa - didn't happen.

Or that India is going to pull out of champions trophy and BCCI will compensate Star Sports by playing blockbus series v India A - didn't happen.

That there is no chance that BCCI will agree to hybrid model - SKY is going to get on a flight to an empty stadium.

They way they have talked rubbish in the past makes me surprised that they can continue to spout it so confidently now.

You missed the big one

These shameless people have been telling us they don’t want to play with Pakistan and it didn't happen.

Now we don't want to play with them and they are begging us to play with then

 

[Technics 1210]

You missed the big one

These shameless people have been telling us they don’t want to play with Pakistan and it didn't happen.

Now we don't want to play with them and they are begging us to play with then

The life of an insecure cult member! Kind of expected when they lack an identity.

 

[emranabbas]

These delusional people's don't Even know anything, but always talk nonsense. ICC is not a property of single person

Whatever revenue ICC earned ( mostly done by BCCI) they are going to distribute among all nations .

Less revenues means , less distribution .

This is exactly what we’re saying less revenue means less distribution for everyone, not just Pakistan.

That’s why the ICC won’t ban Pakistan.

Hopefully that clears up your delusion.

 

[Devadwal]

This is exactly what we’re saying less revenue means less distribution for everyone, not just Pakistan.

That’s why the ICC won’t ban Pakistan.

Hopefully that clears up your delusion.

But saar india , Australia, ECB doesn't depend on ICC handouts for survival but rest of the board including PCB

ICC can ban because Pakistan relevant is only limited to rivaily with India, otherwise they are like Bangladesh.

Once Pakistan lost the leavrage, ICC doens't need Pakistan and they can teach a lesson to Pakistan so they never dare to do any such things in future.

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018746461970928108

 

[emranabbas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018746461970928108

This is from champions trophy 25 but there is new video where he now completely changed his tune

 

[DeadlyVenom]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018746461970928108

Did he himself not boycott legends league?

 

[Rana]

Did he himself not boycott legends league?

Yes, but he didn’t boycott free daawat at a Pakistani restaurant that evening

 

[Rana]

This is from champions trophy 25 but there is new video where he now completely changed his tune

Sometimes I wonder how funny Tanvir Ahmed could have been had he been born on the other side of the border

 

[Technics 1210]

Did he himself not boycott legends league?

Baji is a special case. Deep down he supports Pakistan because he cannot speak publicly about Operation Blue Star.

 

[imranq]

my eyes are burning from these repetitive emojis

 

[Buffet]

Why not say it was handled poorly by BCCI? It was BCCI that set the presedent for all of this? BCCI agreed to play in Pakistan for the CT25, and this after sending personal to assessment security, then pulled the same stunt.

We are sick and tired of your cultish mindset. Bore off with your hypocrisy and statistical insecurities.

Did they? I may be off but I don' remember BCCI agreeinng to go to Pakistan. BCCI did play Pakistan in nuetral country and then agreed to play Pakistan in nuetral country.

Anyway, this entire thing is stupid and childish. India and Pakistan should simply play in each other country.