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Improvement in Rahat Ali?

Swing said:
Really big problem on PakPassion. Guy plays well for one game and suddenly he is ATG.

Now I'm not saying Rahat Ali is not a good bowler. He is pretty good but his fielding is a big problem and he can barely hold a bat. Not as big a liability in the field as Jamshed but still we should try to hide him in the field.
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Who says he have played well only in this game ? he was on the money in last two odi's too its just his 4th odi of his career.

just think when he can perform like this in 4th odi what he will do once he will get enough experience + confidence
 
Itachi said:
he is a rubbish bowler.... he is getting lucky only because irfan is able to put pressure at the top. else, he will be worse than vankatesh prasad.
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What a poor post, smells insecurity the whole way to Scandinavia. You guys have good bowlers so this old trolling is not needed anymore.

When a bowler bowls 140 kph and swings it both way, he can't be rubbish on the whole. I admit he bowls some crap deliveries but he serves some unplayable deliveries and they are enough to get wickets. Much improved bowler.
As a bowler he has stamina, but his fielding needs to be improved and batting also.
 
Swing said:
Really big problem on PakPassion. Guy plays well for one game and suddenly he is ATG.

Now I'm not saying Rahat Ali is not a good bowler. He is pretty good but his fielding is a big problem and he can barely hold a bat. Not as big a liability in the field as Jamshed but still we should try to hide him in the field.
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Never mind his batting, But if he can do well in bowling aspect that will be very good, However Saeed Ajmal also improved his fielding a great bit, Rahat Ali should look forward and improve his fielding like Saeed did.
 
I don't see any overreaction/overrating here.

The general consensus on PP has been that he's a talented but inconsistent bowler who needs to learn the art of setting a batsman up. Today he bowled superbly and bowled confidently with a clear head. He really turned the table on SA along with Wahab.

Yes his fielding is poor, but he doesn't breakdown after three overs. If someone has to be shown the door for pathetic fielding and fitness levels, it has to be Irfan.
 
That setup and yorker to nail Miller was absolutely world class, has totally changed the complexion of the bowling attack.

with Wahab in inspired form there is no respite, when usually Afridi could be easily milked to release pressure.
 
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Well done on Rahat. :14:
 
AZ said:
That setup and yorker to nail Miller was absolutely world class, has totally changed the complexion of the bowling attack.

with Wahab in inspired form there is no respite, when usually Afridi could be easily milked to release pressure.
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That seriously reminded me of Wasim
 
Rahat has all the talent if he can keep up this consistency he will be handful because he has ability to swing it both ways and bowls at 140+
 
I think this world cup will be the making of him. When he was being ridiculed as "Unlucky Rahat Ali" there was always a feeling that he didn't have the aggression or self belief to make the most of his undoubted talent, but his confidence has shot up after some key performances on the big stage. Really great to see a Pakistan bowler hitting the seam so effectively.
 
Thank God that Chariman Khan saab vetoed the request to include Sohail Tanvir instead of Rahat.

Tanvir would have lost the match for us today if he was playing in it...guaranteed.

Rahat has decent potential and can a become a good ODI bowler. He has proved himself in test matches.
 
Always rated him. In this match he showed two more things that we had not seen so far - late swing, miller. And setting up batsmen: miller and abbot.
 
AZ said:
That setup and yorker to nail Miller was absolutely world class, has totally changed the complexion of the bowling attack.

with Wahab in inspired form there is no respite, when usually Afridi could be easily milked to release pressure.
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I was thinking the same, time for Afridi to pull up the socks and get the revs on his bowling. ATM, Misbah is finding it hard to get his overs in :yk2
 
farazaidi said:
I was thinking the same, time for Afridi to pull up the socks and get the revs on his bowling. ATM, Misbah is finding it hard to get his overs in :yk2
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Afridi going through the motions.

It will be sad if he doesn't take 400 wickets.
 
He's still not as accurate as I'd like him to be, but if he fixes that, i can see him becoming our main front line bowler. He's the only guy in the team atm who can actually move the ball both ways. I rate him higher than Junaid.
 
Rahat has being most impressive pacer in last two test series. Control on channel he showed against AUSTRALIA and NZ was major graduation for him.

I was upset when he did not play any ODIs, and guys like Bhatti, Anwar, Adil etc were selected ahead of him. You need test quality bowler in Odis period.

Same is true for opener, test quality new ball skills are needed, when Azhar is trusted in test why not in Odis. That is still a big mistake by think tang. He would have shield middle order with new ball consistently.

Anyhow great to see Rahat bowling the same test channel in Odis. He also has a very good Yorker, he will be good for death too, that was another reason Adil, Bhatti etc would have never being selected ahead of him.




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asyed said:
So what should we do? Stop playing because at the moment we don't have any right arm bowler, huh?

This "a full on lefty attack! " will be in full swing when joined by Junaid and Amir. Haters gonna hate.
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ummm im all over it bros. i never said that i wasnt ok with it!
 
JilaWatan said:
ummm im all over it bros. i never said that i wasnt ok with it!
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I reckon it's the trend currently, that we've more left arm bowlers then right arm.

In past, we usually use to have more right arm, apart from Wasim of course.
 
Highly impressed by his improvement as a ODI bowler, will be leading in both ODI/TEST format for long time.
 
Just an average bowler who can average around 33-35 in tests, In ODIs he will get smacked every day of the week
 
My God how underrated is this guy...
I know the news will be about Amir and Yasir Shah..
but this guy gets Cook, Hales and Root in the start with the new ball..
that is like half of England's team batting wise.. what a performance by him..
He should get more credit than he deserves
 
Deserves credit for dismissing root cook and hales. He kept it right in his later spells. Well done Rahat hope he improves in the next test
 
I've criticised him a lot but to get Cook, Hales and Root out tells you that this player has ability to be a good bowler.

My only problem is that he lacks the "tactictal brain" also.... In his run up he shows no emotions or aggressions. This needs to change.

He has potential and I hope he can take confidence from this.
 
Theo_14 said:
I've criticised him a lot but to get Cook, Hales and Root out tells you that this player has ability to be a good bowler.

My only problem is that he lacks the "tactictal brain" also.... In his run up he shows no emotions or aggressions. This needs to change.

He has potential and I hope he can take confidence from this.
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Do you want him to smile in the camera before bowling? Its not in his personality to do that.. maybe he likes bowling this way?
I don't care if he runs upside as far as I'm concerned.. as long as he gets wickets like he got them today.. Outperformed Amir with the new ball by a mile.. says alot of him than it does of Amir
 
Rahat >>>>>> Amir with the new ball...

maybe people should stop creditting Amir for everything now.. this guy has proved he is right up there..
he was the most likely benched player of the side.. people wanted IK or SK in the side instead of him, he's held his own as a bowler.. outperforming the big names
 
People fantasize Asif's bowling ripping apart the big names.. but Rahat doesnot get enough credit despite rooting over big names in UAE and now in English pitches.. his list of big names is increasing everytime he plays..
 
We know this about Rahat. Sometimes he looks million dollar, but sometimes, toothless.

He is a good bowler just needs to be more consistent.
 
He did well to take 3 wickets but bowled to many garbage deliveries in between, pretty much is the left arm version of malcolm sami. He needs to learn to bowl with better control.
 
waleed88 said:
Do you want him to smile in the camera before bowling? Its not in his personality to do that.. maybe he likes bowling this way?
I don't care if he runs upside as far as I'm concerned.. as long as he gets wickets like he got them today.. Outperformed Amir with the new ball by a mile.. says alot of him than it does of Amir
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I don't mean literally emotions on his face.

He needs to think tactically. Show some aggression to the batsmen. Use the widness of the crease. Change his pace in his run up - show emotions through his bowling, not facial expressions.

He is inconsistent for a reason.
 
in terms of impact in this match: head and shoulders above the other two: hales twice, cook, and root.
 
Theo_14 said:
I don't mean literally emotions on his face.

He needs to think tactically. Show some aggression to the batsmen. Use the widness of the crease. Change his pace in his run up - show emotions through his bowling, not facial expressions.

He is inconsistent for a reason.
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yeah all of that din do much for the other two pacers.
 
Pete Rose said:
yeah all of that din do much for the other two pacers.
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Sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't. Most often it works. Rahat has produced a good performance but you don't consistently see it.

Hopefully this performance is the start of something special but I would like to see more aggression for him - he needs the add that fear factor to his game.
 
Theo_14 said:
Sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't. Most often it works. Rahat has produced a good performance but you don't consistently see it.

Hopefully this performance is the start of something special but I would like to see more aggression for him - he needs the add that fear factor to his game.
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I dont know...I think we are all bought up on a diet of wasim, waqar, shoaib, asif, and to a lesser extend wahab and aamir.
This guy is a special new ball bowler...maybe he ticks differently. All part of being a good captain - dealing with different personalities
 
Pete Rose said:
I dont know...I think we are all bought up on a diet of wasim, waqar, shoaib, asif, and to a lesser extend wahab and aamir.
This guy is a special new ball bowler...maybe he ticks differently. All part of being a good captain - dealing with different personalities
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I remember his spell in Pallekele
 
He is the best new ball bowler in this Test. Took all 4 wickets in 1st spell, which sometimes is good enough to win a Test.

But, he leaks too many boundary balls - if he can fix his Radar, he'll finish with career average under 29.
 
Rahat has pace, he nips the ball around, bowls inswing and outswing. Has good variety of balls. Some say he lacks tactics but in that department he has enough tacticians in the team to advise him so it's less of a concern.

What is a major concern with Rahat and wahab together is that when it's time to just maintain a good line and length and not leak runs they always give one or two bad balls per over. Now it just could be an anomaly with Rahat bowling at lords with the slope so we can ignore it. But I really think he can't afford to be the loose bowler in this team. He out bowled amir today and needs to push himself up as the leader of the pace attack.
 
Theo_14 said:
I don't mean literally emotions on his face.

He needs to think tactically. Show some aggression to the batsmen. Use the widness of the crease. Change his pace in his run up - show emotions through his bowling, not facial expressions.

He is inconsistent for a reason.
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I honestly don't think he needs to do it..
Case in point are Varun Aaron, Sreesanth and Umesh Yadav, who tried to show alot of aggression in India and Australia.. but didn't show any results on the pitch..
They probably behave the way Virat Kohli acts.. with aggression, but don't have the basics to actually do what is neccessary.. rest of that is just shallow superior outward behavior that probably has 5% of the effect of what a bowler is all about..

He does his basics right.. and like Misbah, you don't need to behave aggressively to show aggression
 
aloo paratha said:
I'd say after today, they're all on par. Great performances by all of them!
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I disagree..
Hales Cook and Root was half of the match for Pakistan.. if they got to a start they got against us in the first innings.. the game was up..

Rahat was too good
 
Waqar seems to have the most impact on Rahat.. he is got the best out of him of all bowlers..
 
Amjid Javed said:
He did well to take 3 wickets but bowled to many garbage deliveries in between, pretty much is the left arm version of malcolm sami. He needs to learn to bowl with better control.
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It doesn't matter how many runs he leaks.. test cricket is about picking up wickets.. and he does that very well
 
waleed88 said:
I disagree..
Hales Cook and Root was half of the match for Pakistan.. if they got to a start they got against us in the first innings.. the game was up..

Rahat was too good
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I agree there, but Wahab also bowled brilliantly vs Bairstow and Woakes. Amir I'd say was the worst bowler today but he still bowled good, just not the best.
 
The reason people aren't talking about Rahat's spell today is because they're unsure whether this dominance from him will continue or if it was a one time thing.

and he can blame that to his mediocrity in the first innings, but hats off he ended up taking England's top 3 today.
 
LegendAli said:
The reason people aren't talking about Rahat's spell today is because they're unsure whether this dominance from him will continue or if it was a one time thing.

and he can blame that to his mediocrity in the first innings, but hats off he ended up taking England's top 3 today.
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He's done this before as well.. we just don't associate such performance to him.
Everyone was so obssessed about amir they didn't even notice he was around..

He is the bowling version of Asad Shafiq.. everyone hates him for being around, and not 'looking aggressive' but he is the best of the lot currently
 
He is too inconsistent in his line length which means that either Wahab or Rahat can play. Both of them together allow the opposition to score at 5 + RR.
 
Rahat needs to start using his brain when bowling as he just seems to run up and hope for the best, needs to really learn how to bowl with some control.
 
Very hard working bowler, he has all the ingredients to be a world class pacer, his confidence is his biggest problem though.

Out bowled Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz
 
waleed88 said:
Rahat >>>>>> Amir with the new ball...

maybe people should stop creditting Amir for everything now.. this guy has proved he is right up there..
he was the most likely benched player of the side.. people wanted IK or SK in the side instead of him, he's held his own as a bowler.. outperforming the big names
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Imran Khan is a seam bowler, he will do what Woakes did to us, they both bowl the same lines.
 
Some of you guys are way overrating Rahat Ali. He bowled like crap for most of the test and even though he got Cook with s good one, the wicket of Hales was just a poor shot and a good catch while the wicket of Root was good captaincy and again a poor shot.
 
Can't say I saw too much improvement, he's always been capable of producing the odd beauty. He'd be a lot more effective if he didn't use that beautiful inswinger to the right handers as a stock ball. If he could bowl a few going away then use the inswinger as the lethal weapon he'd be far more effective.
 
Rayyman said:
Some of you guys are way overrating Rahat Ali. He bowled like crap for most of the test and even though he got Cook with s good one, the wicket of Hales was just a poor shot and a good catch while the wicket of Root was good captaincy and again a poor shot.
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:)) How can you consider Hale's wicket a poor shot? He was going for a legitimate boundary.

The definition of blind hate right here folks.
 
LegendAli said:
:)) How can you consider Hale's wicket a poor shot? He was going for a legitimate boundary.

The definition of blind hate right here folks.
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Watch it again, None of the commentators praise Rahat for that wicket. They say too many shots by Hales and great catch by Hafeez
 
Well done Rahat, he will always be the unsung hero of this lords test for me. He has always been a dull but effective selection for Pakistan, a real work horse of a stock bowler who has always got your back. Almost has a Chunky Panday role to play when it comes to our bowling attack.
 
Abid Z said:
Rahat has pace, he nips the ball around, bowls inswing and outswing. Has good variety of balls. Some say he lacks tactics but in that department he has enough tacticians in the team to advise him so it's less of a concern.

What is a major concern with Rahat and wahab together is that when it's time to just maintain a good line and length and not leak runs they always give one or two bad balls per over. Now it just could be an anomaly with Rahat bowling at lords with the slope so we can ignore it. But I really think he can't afford to be the loose bowler in this team. He out bowled amir today and needs to push himself up as the leader of the pace attack.
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In time I think all three bowlers do compliment each other. Right now they all had their moments but they must have roles other than 'take wickets'. Not even delivery you bowl has to be the moneyball, and Amir recognises that yet Rahat and Wahab don't. That's why Amir did well - he got the maidens which helped create pressure with Yasir at the other end. There's a reason why Rahat wasn't asked to bowl in that crucial period and Amir was. Indeed, Rahat got more shape with the ball but he lacked control and a cricketing brain at times. Amir will inshallah get better, and if Rahat can be a bit more tighter that will only benefit himself, Amir (his opening partner) and the rest of the team by building pressure and getting wickets. Mickey Arthur understands that so I hope he can advise Wahab and Rahat that test cricket is also about building pressure.

They can only get better, as they weren't AMAZING, just satisfactory with a few good balls. Hoping to see more from all 3 bowlers. Totally agree with the line & length stuff (all about creating pressure). That's why Amir was still key. Economical.
 
idrizzy said:
In time I think all three bowlers do compliment each other. Right now they all had their moments but they must have roles other than 'take wickets'. Not even delivery you bowl has to be the moneyball, and Amir recognises that yet Rahat and Wahab don't. That's why Amir did well - he got the maidens which helped create pressure with Yasir at the other end. There's a reason why Rahat wasn't asked to bowl in that crucial period and Amir was. Indeed, Rahat got more shape with the ball but he lacked control and a cricketing brain at times. Amir will inshallah get better, and if Rahat can be a bit more tighter that will only benefit himself, Amir (his opening partner) and the rest of the team by building pressure and getting wickets. Mickey Arthur understands that so I hope he can advise Wahab and Rahat that test cricket is also about building pressure.

They can only get better, as they weren't AMAZING, just satisfactory with a few good balls. Hoping to see more from all 3 bowlers. Totally agree with the line & length stuff (all about creating pressure). That's why Amir was still key. Economical.
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Waqar Younis said Amir is not bowling to his potential because he is bowling wide of the crease, which is it doesnot get him a natural chance of getting an LBW to the right handers
As comparison Rahat has been bowling closer to the stumps, hence he has been getting the ball to move both ways..

Comparing both Rahat and Amir, Rahat has swung it better than him and you can see his follow through his closer to the stumps.. amir has been going too wide for his own liking
 
Rayyman said:
Watch it again, None of the commentators praise Rahat for that wicket. They say too many shots by Hales and great catch by Hafeez
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Yea no commentators lmaoo

you should check the verdict everyone was of praise of Rahat Ali he bowled magnificently with the new ball..
 
Rayyman said:
Some of you guys are way overrating Rahat Ali. He bowled like crap for most of the test and even though he got Cook with s good one, the wicket of Hales was just a poor shot and a good catch while the wicket of Root was good captaincy and again a poor shot.
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Those wickets were taken because of the balls leading up to the wicket, Rahat was making Root play at balls he didn't have to, same goes for Hales, because of the pressure that he and Amir were creating, the batsman were forced to create their own runs instead of being able to capitalise on a poor ball. Watching a highlights package on YouTube doesn't give the full context of the story.
 
idrizzy said:
In time I think all three bowlers do compliment each other. Right now they all had their moments but they must have roles other than 'take wickets'. Not even delivery you bowl has to be the moneyball, and Amir recognises that yet Rahat and Wahab don't. That's why Amir did well - he got the maidens which helped create pressure with Yasir at the other end. There's a reason why Rahat wasn't asked to bowl in that crucial period and Amir was. Indeed, Rahat got more shape with the ball but he lacked control and a cricketing brain at times. Amir will inshallah get better, and if Rahat can be a bit more tighter that will only benefit himself, Amir (his opening partner) and the rest of the team by building pressure and getting wickets. Mickey Arthur understands that so I hope he can advise Wahab and Rahat that test cricket is also about building pressure.

They can only get better, as they weren't AMAZING, just satisfactory with a few good balls. Hoping to see more from all 3 bowlers. Totally agree with the line & length stuff (all about creating pressure). That's why Amir was still key. Economical.
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Agree with this, though I would add that aamir got maiden overs because he bowled a yard outside off stump tempting the batsmen to go after him but also wasting the new ball.

I would like to see tighter lines by all.
 
Ellipsism said:
Those wickets were taken because of the balls leading up to the wicket, Rahat was making Root play at balls he didn't have to, same goes for Hales, because of the pressure that he and Amir were creating, the batsman were forced to create their own runs instead of being able to capitalise on a poor ball. Watching a highlights package on YouTube doesn't give the full context of the story.
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Lol. I started watching the match when Vince and balance were batting so ur right I did watch the highlights for all of Rahat's 3 wickets
 
waleed88 said:
He's done this before as well.. we just don't associate such performance to him.
Everyone was so obssessed about amir they didn't even notice he was around..

He is the bowling version of Asad Shafiq.. everyone hates him for being around, and not 'looking aggressive' but he is the best of the lot currently
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Best of which lot?

Asad Shafiq is ranked 11th in the world, Rahat Ali 32nd.
 
Theo_14 said:
I don't mean literally emotions on his face.

He needs to think tactically. Show some aggression to the batsmen. Use the widness of the crease. Change his pace in his run up - show emotions through his bowling, not facial expressions.

He is inconsistent for a reason.
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This right here . Rahat has got the natural ability to swing the ball both ways .He also has pretty decent control over his line and length . Where he lacks is having a fast bowlers mindset and setting a batsman up .He just runs in and bowls. If he starts actually planning out his deliveries and thinking about setting a batsman up he'll be unstoppable .
 
Did well. Hopefully he is a little bit more consistent and doesn't give as many boundary balls away
 
I don't understand this criticism about him bowling without a plan. In the second innings his plan was clear.

Look at his first spell. After the first two or three overs he settled into a good rythm, he was bowling in the right areas but every over he bowled exactly one overpitched delivery which went for four. Clearly the plan was to bowl in the right channel and then surprise the batsman with a yorker length delivery aimed at the stumps. The execution was bad but there was a plan.

Root was in my opinion set up. There was a man in the perfect position to take that catch. It is entirely possible that the captain or team management had asked him to coax him into playing a pull shot, the wicket had uneven bounce so he may miscue it and get out. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

In his second spell he generally bowled a tight line outside the off stump pushing it across. The balls that went for the boundary were on the pads coming in to the right hander. Again the plan was clear, bowl outside off stump and then surprise him with the inswinger. Michael Holding Also pointed this.

It's not as if Rahat bowls entirely without a plan it's the execution where he is lacking. The plans were simple I understand but not everyone is genius at reading batsmen and developing strategies.
 
New Yorker said:
Best of which lot?

Asad Shafiq is ranked 11th in the world, Rahat Ali 32nd.
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Fast bowling lot..
Comparison to Asad Shafiq in that accusations of being 'timid' 'no personality' 'no aggression' are made on shafiq as well, but both in their respective fields are the best of the lot..
Rahat doing better than all the fast bowling talent on show..

You would expect the big fish to go to either Wahab or Amir..
But Rahat got both Root and Cook.. which is somewhat the match right then and there
 
Both Shafiq and Rahat in certain parts of their careers come under the selector's axe, both are not suited to ODIs..
In test Matches, with time on their hands, and confidence of the captain, they keep producing gem after gems..
 
waleed88 said:
Fast bowling lot..
Comparison to Asad Shafiq in that accusations of being 'timid' 'no personality' 'no aggression' are made on shafiq as well, but both in their respective fields are the best of the lot..
Rahat doing better than all the fast bowling talent on show..

You would expect the big fish to go to either Wahab or Amir..
But Rahat got both Root and Cook.. which is somewhat the match right then and there
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I never expect big fish to go to Wahab. And they usually don't.

Amir was not better than Rahat this past Test. But Amir has shown he is capable of much much better performances than this.

For Rahat so far in his career this has been pretty much as good as it gets. Rarely takes 5fers, just isn't
able to produce one consistently good Test.

It is not at all evident to me that he is better than Imran, on balance, or a few of other bowlers waiting
in the wings at home.

I understand the comparison to Shafiq, but again it flatters Rahat too much. Comparatively speaking
Asad has so far in his career been better batsman than Rahat has been a bowler. Hence the discrepancy in
rankings.
 
Fahdi said:
I don't understand this criticism about him bowling without a plan. In the second innings his plan was clear.

Look at his first spell. After the first two or three overs he settled into a good rythm, he was bowling in the right areas but every over he bowled exactly one overpitched delivery which went for four. Clearly the plan was to bowl in the right channel and then surprise the batsman with a yorker length delivery aimed at the stumps. The execution was bad but there was a plan.

Root was in my opinion set up. There was a man in the perfect position to take that catch. It is entirely possible that the captain or team management had asked him to coax him into playing a pull shot, the wicket had uneven bounce so he may miscue it and get out. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

In his second spell he generally bowled a tight line outside the off stump pushing it across. The balls that went for the boundary were on the pads coming in to the right hander. Again the plan was clear, bowl outside off stump and then surprise him with the inswinger. Michael Holding Also pointed this.

It's not as if Rahat bowls entirely without a plan it's the execution where he is lacking. The plans were simple I understand but not everyone is genius at reading batsmen and developing strategies.
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You are right. Rahat is a good bowler but you also can't judge him bowling at lords because of the slope it's easy to err in line and get punished. Plus he's not used to the duke ball which often swings more than any other and at lords overhead conditions kept altering.

But this is all down to experience and he will be the better bowler for it. I think he will love old Trafford. Crisp dry with plenty of bounce and reverse swing. Hopefully he plays.
 
Rubbish with the new ball, is meant to be in the team to offer the control option yet he offers a hit me boundary ball every over, Hope misbah sees sense with this bowler after this game.
 
Too worried about stepping into danger area. Losing his line and length. Disappointing to say the least.
 
Abid Z said:
You are right. Rahat is a good bowler but you also can't judge him bowling at lords because of the slope it's easy to err in line and get punished. Plus he's not used to the duke ball which often swings more than any other and at lords overhead conditions kept altering.

But this is all down to experience and he will be the better bowler for it. I think he will love old Trafford. Crisp dry with plenty of bounce and reverse swing. Hopefully he plays.
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he's been piling up that experience for quite some time now, don't you think?

not being able to execute plans means he is a good bowler?
 
New Yorker said:
he's been piling up that experience for quite some time now, don't you think?

not being able to execute plans means he is a good bowler?
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16 tests is nothing. Junaid also looked good for 15 tests and suddenly went down hill. Just highlighting that it can go both ways in early parts of a career. (James Anderson)

Don't misunderstand me.... There is plenty wrong with Rahat but he definitely deserves his chance in England. I really don't care if he gets a five for...what matters is his loose deliveries. There's too many of them right now but having watched cricket for over 30 years I think it's important to be patient when dealing with middle of the road (unremarkable) seamers. They'll just bowl steady and get odd wickets here and there. That's all we can expect from them.
 
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