Imran Khan: Army helped to rig 2013 elections

[Loralai]

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has claimed that several institutions, including elements from the army, helped the PML-N win the 2013 general elections.

The PTI chief, during an 'ice-breaker' interview to Geo News' senior journalist Hamid Mir, said that the ruling party and Nawaz Sharif had received more help than anyone else from the press, the judiciary and even the army in years past.

Khan in particular stressed that Sharif and his party were helped tremendously by elements from the armed forces in Punjab during the 2013 general elections.

"The army helped him in the 2013 elections," he claimed. "What was said during the judicial commission [inquiry] in the Supreme Court? It was said that the returning officers in Punjab were surrounded by the army, and inside that security [cordon] they were casting fake votes.

"The candidates were not allowed to witness [the] consolidation [process]. So who had asked the army to surround them like that? Have you ever heard that candidates are barred from the consolidation?

"I don't know if Sharif was helped by the institution or by individuals, but what I do know is that in Punjab, Brig Muzaffar Ali Ranjha, who was later rewarded with an anti-corruption post, helped them [the PML-N]. Of that there is no doubt.

"Why was it called the RO's election? That's because when it was time to tabulate results, no one was allowed to go there. Who stopped the candidates? The army [did]."

Khan accused Sharif of always trying to keep national institutions on his side, pointing out that since that this was now no longer the case, the former PM is now "upset".

"Nawaz Sharif today is not actually complaining that the army is against him — he is in fact asking why isn't the army with him? He always plays his matches with his own umpires.

"From Gymkhana, to General Zia [ul Haq], to the 1990 elections, to the 1996 elections, and then 2013 — both the judiciary and the army used to support him [Nawaz]. Today, his problem is that both these institutions have become neutral."

Source: Dawn https://www.dawn.com/news/1405397

So, what do people think? Is Imran Khan right here? Was the army involved in rigging our last election?

 

[hussain.r97]

Source: Dawn https://www.dawn.com/news/1405397

So, what do people think? Is Imran Khan right here? Was the army involved in rigging our last election?

Listening to the full interview, he did not say the army as an organization rigged the election. He said that he does not know so he can't speculate, but there were definitely army individuals in Punjab preventing candidates from seeing the votes being counted, and ballot boxes were stuffed during that period.

 

[Mian]

But Army is behind him Noora Logic

 

[Waseem]

He did not say Army as an institution rig the elections but certain sections were involved and he has said that many times before.

 

[hussain.r97]

Dawn have cherrypicked the interview. The title is not a fair reflection of what Imran Khan said.

 

[Mian]

He did not say Army as an institution rig the elections but certain sections were involved and he has said that many times before.

Thats what you get when you end Geo Boycott and give them an interview they will make sure to add their masalas

 

[Loralai]

I haven't seen the full interview - can someone please provide a link?

 

[Waseem]

Thats what you get when you end Geo Boycott and give them an interview they will make sure to add their masalas

Geo is undoubtedly a propaganda channel and maybe PTI thought they can reach wider audience with Geo but they will make sure such opportunities aren't missed.

Imran Khan clearly talked about an individual from fauj who assisted Sharifs and got rewarded for that as well. Fauj as an institution doesn't get together and decide "Hey lets back such and such in these elections" but yes there are certain sections with vested interests.

Before Panama leaks, it was all business as usual with most blame fauj got was Raheel Sharif's extension but as soon as Panama leaks was exposed in INTERNATIONAL LEAKS we have seen:

- Dawn leaks (only enemies would attack fauj like this)
- Fauj is behind Panama (which is factually incorrect and practically impossible)
- Fauj controls whole judiciary (which we never heard for many years and even during worst dictatorship)
- Fauj controls media (Never heard that before at least in last 4 years)
- Fauj didn't let us resolve issues (Ironically they take all credit of military action and rangers action in Karachi)

So yes Panama did all the above!

 

[hussain.r97]

I haven't seen the full interview - can someone please provide a link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevsRvBuoSg&t=0s&list=PL82CE2B5363598982&index=10

 

[Mamoon]

Imran Khan on May 5:

"Army helped PML-N in 2013 election."

Imran Khan on July 18:

"Army is the only transparent and corruption-free institute in the country"

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/343010-only-army-is-transparent-says-imran

What a shameless person. Truly the master of u-turns and double-faced politics.

 

[Syed1]

Imran Khan on May 5:



Imran Khan on July 18:



https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/343010-only-army-is-transparent-says-imran

What a shameless person. Truly the master of u-turns and double-faced politics.

Yes inshallah army will help PTI win elections

 

[Loralai]

Yes inshallah army will help PTI win elections

Do you think this is a good thing?

Surely having Establishment interfering is bad for both PTI and for Pakistan?

 

[Syed1]

Do you think this is a good thing?

Surely having Establishment interfering is bad for both PTI and for Pakistan?

It is bad when they help PTI, but ok when they help Nooras?

 

[Abdullah719]

Imran Khan on May 5:



Imran Khan on July 18:



https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/343010-only-army-is-transparent-says-imran

What a shameless person. Truly the master of u-turns and double-faced politics.

What he actually said: "The problem in Pakistan right now is that we have only one institution that is functioning properly and that is the military. All the other state institutions have been devastated by corruption, by cronyism, by putting cronies in key positions, destruction of merit. Other institutions are lagging behind. What we need is to raise all institutions up and then they work together."

Looks like Geo added the transparency bit by themselves, while you added the corruption-free part as a bonus.

I don't read that quote to mean that the military is corruption-free but to each his own I guess... just don't put it in "" quote marks.

 

[Loralai]

It is bad when they help PTI, but ok when they help Nooras?

It is bad when they ''help'' any political party. The army should have no role in political matters ever and should be subservient to the democratically elected representatives of the the people.

By striking a deal with the Establishment, PTI will suffer the most, as it will turn out just like PPP and PML-N. Imran will be an Establishment puppet (just like Nawaz was, and just like Zardari was before him).

 

[Mamoon]

What he actually said: "The problem in Pakistan right now is that we have only one institution that is functioning properly and that is the military. All the other state institutions have been devastated by corruption, by cronyism, by putting cronies in key positions, destruction of merit. Other institutions are lagging behind. What we need is to raise all institutions up and then they work together."

Looks like Geo added the transparency bit by themselves, while you added the corruption-free part as a bonus.

I don't read that quote to mean that the military is corruption-free but to each his own I guess... just don't put it in "" quote marks.

Even if we go by your quote, how do we reconcile it with his statement that the military helped PML-N rigged the 2013 election? His statement today and the one on May 5 are mutually exclusive.

 

[Abdullah719]

Even if we go by your quote, how do we reconcile it with his statement that the military helped PML-N rigged the 2013 election? His statement today and the one on May 5 are mutually exclusive.

Mr Khan said that Mr Sharif had lately become anti-establishment only because General Qamar Javed Bajwa was a “neutral army chief” who had not been supporting the ousted premier for his wrongdoings.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1405544

 

[Mamoon]

Mr Khan said that Mr Sharif had lately become anti-establishment only because General Qamar Javed Bajwa was a “neutral army chief” who had not been supporting the ousted premier for his wrongdoings.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1405544

So now that the Army is on his side, it is free of corruption and neutral. Okay.

 

[IMMY69]

So now that the Army is on his side, it is free of corruption and neutral. Okay.

The army is on his side?

 

[Savak]

Don't recall the Nooras complaining about the 2013 elections being rigged or the army being involved. Now all of a sudden these hue and cries about Establishment/Fauj kee sazish?