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PTI Chairman Imran Khan addressed the protesters at Islamabad's 9th Avenue on Monday morning gave a six-day deadline to the government for announcing elections and warned that he would return to the capital with the "entire nation" otherwise.

He denounced the "tactics" used by the "imported government", including raids and arrests, to stop the PTI's march and thanked the Supreme Court for taking notice of the matter.

Imran said there was a "huge responsibility" on SC judges, as he went on to ask where in a democracy peaceful protests were not allowed and demonstrators had to face tear-gas shelling, police raids and arrests.

The PTI chairman had entered Islamabad in the early hours of Thursday and marched towards D-Chowk, while the federal government authorised the deployment of the army in Red Zone to "protect important government buildings".

https://www.dawn.com/news/1691441/a...-polls-warns-hell-return-to-capital-otherwise
 
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Vice-Chairman Shah Mahmood Qureshi said on Wednesday that Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) is opposing the organisation of fresh elections, whereas, Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) is in favour of the decision, ARY News reported.

While talking to ARY News, Shah Mahmood Qureshi confirmed his meeting with a government team and said that Ayaz Sadiq told them that PML-N is ready for fresh elections but PPP and other coalition partners are against the decision.
 
So, is he going back?.

And if after 6 days 'they' don't give any dates for elections. What would he do once he return to capital. Hope he doesn't go for Dharna, which even failed to give any benefits last time.
 
Miles away the absconder finally admitted and called money launderer to dissolve the assy
 
And as the sun came up, he ran away. This is not october my friend. If he had ever lived outside of his bani gala mansion he would know that from may till august its to hot in pakistan.

If him amd his fellow cronies travel in ac car while the awaam has to stand in the hot sun.

Comeback in October plz.... Abhi jao, dhoop lag jani, rung kharab hojana
 
Totally flop march, he achieved nothing except killing a few of his workers. If I were a PTI supporter I would be completely embarrassed today.

There will be no announcement in the next 6 days. He will come back, will get more PTI supporters killed and achieve nothing.
 
Nothing will happen in the next 6 days. The government will complete its tenure.
 
Nothing will happen in the next 6 days. The government will complete its tenure.

Don't be so sure.
They'll be negotiating the terms now and it will be on the lines of "drop all charges against us, give us free passage in snd out of Pakistan and you can have your election".
 
Don't be so sure.
They'll be negotiating the terms now and it will be on the lines of "drop all charges against us, give us free passage in snd out of Pakistan and you can have your election".

Nope. Why would PDM call elections now? They are enjoying being in the government.
 
Totally flop march, he achieved nothing except killing a few of his workers. If I were a PTI supporter I would be completely embarrassed today.

There will be no announcement in the next 6 days. He will come back, will get more PTI supporters killed and achieve nothing.

The people killed were killed because your puppet leaders ordered the rangers, police and security to open fire on everyone.

PTI held massive jalsas and had massive protests throughout the country over the last few weeks, not a single person was even injured.

So - the question is, what exactly was the threat from mostly a wide range of gatherers including children, women and the elderly?
 
Nope. Why would PDM call elections now? They are enjoying being in the government.

No one wants to be in charge during an economic crisis let alone the worst economic crisis globally in decades.

It's much better to be the opposition in a situation like this.

The economic crisis is only going to get worse, not just for Pakistan but for everyone. Due to the war in Ukraine there will be fuel and food shortages that will affect billions. The reality is that it's neither the PDM or PTI's fault but both sides can blame each other because the majority of the population is oblivious to the larger picture.
 
I think crowd was not an issue it was decent sized and would have grown over the weekend .
IK has recieved some assurances from the sectors also the IMF talks verdict have made it very difficult for PDM to continue and its in every body best interests to go for elections let the care taker govt make the tough IMF calls so everyone starts clean.
 
He played his hand too early.

Should have dangled the threat of the long march for longer.

Well done to those who marched but unless something drastic happens it will be difficult to mobilise so many people again.

I dont think any deals were done with the PDM, I think Imran retreated, not quite defeated but knowing that he didn't have enough numbers to really threaten the government.
 
How stupid do you have to be to bring small children to political protests? These parents are idiots and if their children got hurt, they deserved it.

Taking children to protests is their right. Peaceful protests are everyone's right.

How stupid do you have to be to call other people exerciseing their rights stupid?

You don't strike me a person who is able to think logically - it's no wonder you have the reputation that you do here.
 
Taking children to protests is their right. Peaceful protests are everyone's right.

How stupid do you have to be to call other people exerciseing their rights stupid?

You don't strike me a person who is able to think logically - it's no wonder you have the reputation that you do here.

The irony seems to be lost on you - you are justifying bringing small children to protests and then you talk about thinking logically. Surely this has to be a joke post?

If you bring your children to political protests that too in Pakistan, knowing fully well that anything can happen, do it at your own risk and don’t complain if they get hurt because it is your responsibility.

If they thought they would be welcomed with red carpets and no one would say anything to them it is their naivety and stupidity.

Besides, even if the protests were peaceful, you have to be a complete ***** to bring small children in such scorching heat.

Either way, these parents are completely dumb wits.
 
Either way, these parents are completely dumb wits.

Even if they are, they're still significantly more intelligent than you.

You keep calling it a flop march but refuse to comment to accpt that it could never truly succeed with all the measures put in place to block the people.
 
Even if they are, they're still significantly more intelligent than you.

You keep calling it a flop march but refuse to comment to accpt that it could never truly succeed with all the measures put in place to block the people.

No they are not and neither are you. Please sit down.

Islamabad is a small city - it cannot accommodate thousands of brainwashed, infected cult-followers without compromising the city and disrupting the everyday lives of the citizens of Islamabad.

The every day lives of the citizens have already been impacted by the invasion of the cult-followers. Imagine what would have happened if the entire lot would have showed up.

Logic and common sense is not Imran and his followers’ strong suit - if he wants to organize a circus with millions, he needs to choose a bigger city. Islamabad is probably the least favorable city, it has small land mass and is already stretched in terms of population per square m.
 
The crooks are cornered and they know it.
This whole thing was to ensure they get let off for their crimes and slowly but surely its all backfiring on them.
 
One thing is certain - Khan will never be the PM again.

Only thing certain are death and taxes. I have seen this man manifest impossible things through just power of his will. He wants not give up and he has establishment support in many quarters. It's quite apparent now.
 
One thing is certain - Khan will never be the PM again.

Any justification for this thinking? I find it extremely unlikely that the next PM is not IK. The only question in my mind is whether he will have a majority behind him or not.
 
Taking children to protests is their right. Peaceful protests are everyone's right.

How stupid do you have to be to call other people exerciseing their rights stupid?

You don't strike me a person who is able to think logically - it's no wonder you have the reputation that you do here.

A "right" is a "right" when the person who is exercising it knows the basics of the matter. Otherwise they are doctrinated to believe what their parents want them to believe. A children has no knowledge about the political scenario and that kid isn't exercising his/her rights. They are just tagging along with their parents.

The failure to grasp such basic concepts by PTI supporters isn't surprising though.
 
Even Imran knows that there will be nothing like peaceful protests and some bloodshed is inevitable. Not the popular opinion here, but i do see narcissistic traits in Imran where everything revolves around him being the chosen one.
 
Nothing will happen in the next 6 days. The government will complete its tenure.

That's exactly what I want.

He should take time off and spend some of it with his kids in UK.

Let dogs eat the dogs in the political arena of PDM.

They will have to increase the petrol prices and inflation will go through the roof. So let them take the blame for "mehangai".

IK should just wait and watch.
 
First indication imported crooks deprive overseas from voting rights assembly dissolution on the way
 
A "right" is a "right" when the person who is exercising it knows the basics of the matter. Otherwise they are doctrinated to believe what their parents want them to believe. A children has no knowledge about the political scenario and that kid isn't exercising his/her rights. They are just tagging along with their parents.

The failure to grasp such basic concepts by PTI supporters isn't surprising though.

It's not just PTI supporters though. Parents around the world take their children to political protests.
I was taken to one at the age of 9, it was an anti nuke protest.

I remember reading an article where it said that kids don't have a say on attending and don't understand the nuances. However, children get their values from their parents, and political activism is an extension of those beliefs.

It's the same thing when a parent takes their child to a mandir or a synagogue or church.

I don't see how any one can take issue of parents taking their children on a march that is against thieves who are complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent poor Pakistani's. If anything this should be applauded because the children of today will grow up knowing that looting and bribery is immoral.
Its breaking th chain of decades of corruption and it starts from not only this generation but the youngsters who will eventually grow up and have a say in how the country is run and what is morally acceptable.

You should be applauding these parents rather than trolling PTI supporters.
 
It's not just PTI supporters though. Parents around the world take their children to political protests.
I was taken to one at the age of 9, it was an anti nuke protest.

I remember reading an article where it said that kids don't have a say on attending and don't understand the nuances. However, children get their values from their parents, and political activism is an extension of those beliefs.

It's the same thing when a parent takes their child to a mandir or a synagogue or church.

I don't see how any one can take issue of parents taking their children on a march that is against thieves who are complicit in the murder of thousands of innocent poor Pakistani's. If anything this should be applauded because the children of today will grow up knowing that looting and bribery is immoral.
Its breaking th chain of decades of corruption and it starts from not only this generation but the youngsters who will eventually grow up and have a say in how the country is run and what is morally acceptable.

You should be applauding these parents rather than trolling PTI supporters.

Its different in the UK man. The weather is cool and so are the authorities. Protests in the UK are like a carnival.

In Pakistan we are talking 45 degrees heat and a vicious police force, coupled with a highly charged political atmosphere.

The kids can protest in other ways. Maybe light candles outside their house or whatever.

I certainly wouldn't have my kids anywhere near it.
 
Its different in the UK man. The weather is cool and so are the authorities. Protests in the UK are like a carnival.

In Pakistan we are talking 45 degrees heat and a vicious police force, coupled with a highly charged political atmosphere.

The kids can protest in other ways. Maybe light candles outside their house or whatever.

I certainly wouldn't have my kids anywhere near it.

Yes, point well made.
However, these are desperate people. Trodden on by the political elite.
A once in a lifetime chance to change the system. In two decades they can put their hands up and say they were there when it all happened.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">میں اس جتھے کے سربراہ کو واضح کر دینا چاہتا ہوں کہ تمہاری ڈکٹیشن نہیں چلے گی۔ ہمیں شفاف انتخابات کروانے ہیں لیکن کب کروانے ہیں یہ 22 کروڑ عوام کا منتخب ایوان فیصلہ کرے گا۔ <a href="https://t.co/CYX0HTlnIs">pic.twitter.com/CYX0HTlnIs</a></p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1529814710954115073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Anybody feel Imran Khan is an ideal candidate to be permanently in the opposition?

He is the best individual to keep any incumbent government on its toes.
 
Any justification for this thinking? I find it extremely unlikely that the next PM is not IK. The only question in my mind is whether he will have a majority behind him or not.

Khan has become untenable for the military establishment. He upsetted them by trying to align Pakistan with Russia and moving away from the US. Khan refused the military’s advice on foreign affairs. That is why he is done and never making a comeback.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">میں اس جتھے کے سربراہ کو واضح کر دینا چاہتا ہوں کہ تمہاری ڈکٹیشن نہیں چلے گی۔ ہمیں شفاف انتخابات کروانے ہیں لیکن کب کروانے ہیں یہ 22 کروڑ عوام کا منتخب ایوان فیصلہ کرے گا۔ <a href="https://t.co/CYX0HTlnIs">pic.twitter.com/CYX0HTlnIs</a></p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1529814710954115073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Can he walk into that "22 corore awaam" without security?
Let him do it and see what " faisla" the 22 corore awaam will do for him.
 
The days are numbered for the imported “government”. They have proven to be complete incapable and ineffective in handling the situation.

The end of dynastic rule is upon us.
 
PML-N Vice-President Maryam Nawaz has said that PTI Chairman Imran Khan’s six-day ultimatum to the government to announce an election is just a face-saving attempt as people have rejected the “fake revolution”.

“People turned his ‘Azadi March’ into ‘destruction march’ and sent him back to Peshawar,” said Maryam while addressing the media in Lahore on Thursday.

She claimed that PTI workers on the orders of party leaders set fire and spread chaos in the federal capital.

“The PTI revolution was not leaderless instead Imran and other party leaders were leading it,” she said while commenting on the Supreme Court judgement.

The apex court had issued clear instructions to hold its Azadi March protest near Peshawar Mor between the H-9 and G-9 areas of Islamabad. However, Imran and his protesters did make their way towards D-Chowk, prompting the government to call in the Pakistan Army to secure the capital's Red Zone.

She also expressed regret over the top court's remarks that Imran might not have been informed about the court decision regarding the protest revenue. “I request the Supreme Court to review its decisions.”

Maryam also said the people have responded to Imran’s call by saying “absolutely not” and adding that his politics has been wiped out from the country.

While holding the ousted premier responsible for the death of a police constable during a raid at the PTI leader's home, Maryam said Imran should be booked for spreading anarchy.

"I am satisfied that the whole nation has rejected the ‘anarchy’ march. The journey of true freedom beings from home while Imran Khan’s children are in London,” she remarked.

DAWN
 
Also - he shouldn't have announced "6" days.

It can take 20 days to bring down the government so he should have just left the actual timeline hanging. It would keep the powers that be guessing.

But now the pressure is on him and the clock is already ticking.
 
Also - he shouldn't have announced "6" days.

It can take 20 days to bring down the government so he should have just left the actual timeline hanging. It would keep the powers that be guessing.

But now the pressure is on him and the clock is already ticking.

Its a notional amount of days.

Actual days dont matter tbh.
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Vice-President Shah Mahmood Qureshi has clarified that the political party did not hold any secret dialogues during Islamabad long march, ARY News reported on Thursday.

Shah Mahmood Qureshi, while talking to ARY News, said that Imran Khan had never slept for a moment on Wednesday night and he kept getting information regarding the PTI marchers besides remaining in contact with the nation.

He said that the government had created hurdles for the PTI marchers and suspended internet services. He added that Imran Khan completed the journey to D-Chowk amid extremely hot weather.

ARY
 
As a far away observer, it was quite an anti-climax, the way this whole march ended. All the build up with huge ‘Jalsas’ across the country, was expecting a different outcome
 
PTI chairman and former premier Imran Khan on Thursday took many by surprise when he suddenly announced ending his “Haqeeqi Azadi March” and decided to give a six-day ultimatum to the ruling coalition to announce an election date or else he would return to the capital with more people next time.

The change of plan was not just sudden, but a deviation from what Imran had been saying for the past several weeks that he would not leave Islamabad without getting a date for the next elections from the government.

However, things did not pan out that way. In fact what looked like a swift retreat not only raised several questions but also set tongues wagging that the decision must be a result of behind-the-scenes developments.

Insiders revealed that powerful circles were on board and pushed both sides to make certain decisions, including PTI’s entry into the capital and end of the rally instead of going for a sit-in. They added that everyone, including the powerful circles, needed face-saving and it was not just about political parties.

With the government-PTI face-off, they said, the pressure was built and clear messages were conveyed to the powerful stakeholders -- that they could not act as spectators for long, knowing full well the responsibilities they shouldered under the situation.

“In terms of understanding, all the political parties have the same feelings about the past role of institutions,” a source privy to the development told The Express Tribune. “The only difference is that political parties are not on the same container.”

He said the political parties were not together right now, but there was a fear that they might start exposing the powerful circles. “There’s a trust deficit. No one trusts the other at the moment.”

The source said the secrets of the powerful circles could be brought into the open as well.

“Secrets can be revealed and they don’t want that.” The powerful circles were allegedly involved in the change of government, he said, saying they also needed face-saving and wanted to ensure that “sanity prevailed”.

About the date of the general elections, the source said, there were strong chances that they could take place in October this year – just a month before the army chief retired.

They said the speaker’s office was used for talks and could be used for further negotiations for finalising the election date.

Keeping October in view, the insiders and political observers believe that the government will continue till August and will not only present the budget but will have a chance to reverse legislation pertaining to electoral reforms, the National Accountability Bureau, etc. – a process that has already begun.

On the abrupt calling off of the rally, a PTI leader said that Imran was “bound to make that decision”, saying there were genuine reasons.

Nevertheless, he added, it was a win-win situation for all the stakeholders. On the size of the rally, they said that “sometimes the numbers matter, sometimes optics; last night’s rally was more about optics.”

Another PTI leader said there were no preparations for making people stay for a longer period, adding the fear factor of a mass gathering made the government nervous and helped the PTI in changing its objective from staging a sit-in to staging only a power show.

Also, he said, Imran called off the rally as he sensed that there could be a confrontation between people and the law enforcers, especially the army. He questioned who calls the army for a few thousand people exercising their political and democratic rights, saying it was an attempt to pit the public against the forces.

On coming back after six days, he said the plan to return was so far intact and assumed that there will be no bar from the top court on the next political gathering and that would give PTI more freedom to make choices.

The source referred to Imran’s speech where he said that people were also looking toward the Supreme Court as nowhere in the world the permission for a peaceful rally is denied.

Since his ouster through a no-confidence motion, Imran has been rallying across the country to build momentum against the government to force it to announce early elections, and the May 25 long march was supposed to stay put until a date was announced. However, that did not happen.

Nevertheless, one impact of the long march and the ultimatum was that Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said the doors were open for talks with the opposition but he would not take any dictation. Speaking on the floor of the House, the premier even offered to form a committee to discuss the next elections.

Political observers said the budget and reforms were one thing, but the ruling alliance was also taking some time so that the impact of their decisions evaporated before they went to elections – possibly this October.

Express Tribune
 
Some of the cult-followers are still in Islamabad. The fake messiah left them hanging by running away, and they don’t know whether to stay or go back. They are confused.

All this build up, all this hype for nothing. What a joke.
 
Some of the cult-followers are still in Islamabad. The fake messiah left them hanging by running away, and they don’t know whether to stay or go back. They are confused.

All this build up, all this hype for nothing. What a joke.

Maybe some form of mind game / mental disintegration ?
 
Some of the cult-followers are still in Islamabad. The fake messiah left them hanging by running away, and they don’t know whether to stay or go back. They are confused.

All this build up, all this hype for nothing. What a joke.

Dont think you are following the whole thing at all.

Read the reasons and the analysis so you educate yourself fully before commenting.
 
A lot of the supporters are completely baffled by the way Imran ran away after one day.

They feel humiliated and let down, and have stated that they will not return after 6 days. What if he runs away again?

He has no regard for his supporters and the struggles and efforts they made to come to Islamabad under the circumstances in this scorching heat.

This is why they are bitterly disappointed. They have finally realized that they cannot follow a mad man forever.

He will end up destroying himself and the people who are following him to the path of destruction.

Some PTI supporters lost their lives for a one day protest with Imran running away. What did they die for? Imran is responsible for their deaths.
 
Maybe some form of mind game / mental disintegration ?

He has only caused mental disintegration among his own supporters who lost their lives and struggled so much in this weather only for him to run away after one day. Everyone else is laughing at them.
 
A lot of the supporters are completely baffled by the way Imran ran away after one day.

They feel humiliated and let down, and have stated that they will not return after 6 days. What if he runs away again?

He has no regard for his supporters and the struggles and efforts they made to come to Islamabad under the circumstances in this scorching heat.

This is why they are bitterly disappointed. They have finally realized that they cannot follow a mad man forever.

He will end up destroying himself and the people who are following him to the path of destruction.

Some PTI supporters lost their lives for a one day protest with Imran running away. What did they die for? Imran is responsible for their deaths.

You are still not reading the news bro.

Please educate yourself.

Supporters of Imran Khan are not there for one day - this is a lifelong struggle and only for those who actually believe in Pakistan.
 
A lot of the supporters are completely baffled by the way Imran ran away after one day.

They feel humiliated and let down, and have stated that they will not return after 6 days. What if he runs away again?

He has no regard for his supporters and the struggles and efforts they made to come to Islamabad under the circumstances in this scorching heat.

This is why they are bitterly disappointed. They have finally realized that they cannot follow a mad man forever.

He will end up destroying himself and the people who are following him to the path of destruction.

Some PTI supporters lost their lives for a one day protest with Imran running away. What did they die for? Imran is responsible for their deaths.
Don't like the guy but I agree with him here my cousin who is involved with PTI on a local body level said many lower tier workers are dismayed at abrupt call to end dharna especially after they went through hell to get there there was enough public there already (he estimates 5 lakh )to keep the pressure on the government he says on the next call he struggles to see even 50K making it there .
 
Don't like the guy but I agree with him here my cousin who is involved with PTI on a local body level said many lower tier workers are dismayed at abrupt call to end dharna especially after they went through hell to get there there was enough public there already (he estimates 5 lakh )to keep the pressure on the government he says on the next call he struggles to see even 50K making it there .

He saw what the Government of killers are capable of and stopped his hand.

Read

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...nd-I-heeded-Khan-s-call-to-march-to-Islamabad

There are many many more who will do this again but will IK put their loyalty to the test against a band of killers?
 
Why did IK abruptly end the march? Quite weird because he was hyping it up for the last few weeks.

Something has happened behind the scenes which is not being disclosed.
 
Why did IK abruptly end the march? Quite weird because he was hyping it up for the last few weeks.

Something has happened behind the scenes which is not being disclosed.

Khan was most likely pushed out by the military because the military wants the government to negotiate and get IMF dollars. The government is here to stay till August 2023 as it is taking difficult decisions.
 
Khan was most likely pushed out by the military because the military wants the government to negotiate and get IMF dollars. The government is here to stay till August 2023 as it is taking difficult decisions.

Logically speaking this government cannot stay till August 2023 and that is a fact. There is another fact that this government is likely to lose Punjab Assembly and after losing that no government can govern when they dont have power in KP and especially Punjab.

Further, this Government is hanging on mere 2 votes just 2 votes. No way they will complete their tenure till August 2023 just not happening.

The price hike was necessary. Now if this government loses power then they will face wrath of public due to massive inflation. So pretty much suicidal for PMLN the new set of election but its inevitable. The day no confidence vote was tabled a massive own goal was done by PDM and now they will lose whatever power they consolidated in a snap.
 
Logically speaking this government cannot stay till August 2023 and that is a fact. There is another fact that this government is likely to lose Punjab Assembly and after losing that no government can govern when they dont have power in KP and especially Punjab.

Further, this Government is hanging on mere 2 votes just 2 votes. No way they will complete their tenure till August 2023 just not happening.

The price hike was necessary. Now if this government loses power then they will face wrath of public due to massive inflation. So pretty much suicidal for PMLN the new set of election but its inevitable. The day no confidence vote was tabled a massive own goal was done by PDM and now they will lose whatever power they consolidated in a snap.

Khan took a mature and logical decision to save his supporters from criminal and violent government and its goons. His time will come, he has to watch and see.
 
Logically speaking this government cannot stay till August 2023 and that is a fact. There is another fact that this government is likely to lose Punjab Assembly and after losing that no government can govern when they dont have power in KP and especially Punjab.

Further, this Government is hanging on mere 2 votes just 2 votes. No way they will complete their tenure till August 2023 just not happening.

The price hike was necessary. Now if this government loses power then they will face wrath of public due to massive inflation. So pretty much suicidal for PMLN the new set of election but its inevitable. The day no confidence vote was tabled a massive own goal was done by PDM and now they will lose whatever power they consolidated in a snap.

ironic post. You used the word logic and than continued with illogical wishful thinking.

First of all, punjab is not important due to Punjab assembly, but due to MNA seats. Winning a majority from Punjab and one of the other provinces is enough to make a govt in center.

Second, this govt is not hanging on two votes anymore. This would had been true if PTI did not resign from NA. The biggest own goal that PTI did after the vote of no confidence was resigning from NA. The numbers in NA are reduced hence its no more hanging on two votes.

PMLN has done nothing suicidal. PMLN issue has always been south punjab and if the tareens join force in the election, PMLN can get south punjab aswell
 
ironic post. You used the word logic and than continued with illogical wishful thinking.

First of all, punjab is not important due to Punjab assembly, but due to MNA seats. Winning a majority from Punjab and one of the other provinces is enough to make a govt in center.

Second, this govt is not hanging on two votes anymore. This would had been true if PTI did not resign from NA. The biggest own goal that PTI did after the vote of no confidence was resigning from NA. The numbers in NA are reduced hence its no more hanging on two votes.

PMLN has done nothing suicidal. PMLN issue has always been south punjab and if the tareens join force in the election, PMLN can get south punjab aswell

Lol we saw their huge jalsas in central punjab. MashaAllah spreading lies. I have not seen any sane educated person supporting and spreading lies so blatantly.
 
Further, this Government is hanging on mere 2 votes just 2 votes. No way they will complete their tenure till August 2023 just not happening.

After PTI resignation, that isn't true. PTI resignation gave PDM more solidity. PTI is perhaps the most immature political party I've seen in a while.
 
After PTI resignation, that isn't true. PTI resignation gave PDM more solidity. PTI is perhaps the most immature political party I've seen in a while.

I think they gathered most support and was evident from their gatherings. PTI is going to sweep next elections .
 
Isb was handed over to est and there it would have been a clash between insafiyans and the law enforcers so IK took the sane path regarding the supporters of mafia and crooks are concerned many of them have already gone mum due to this shoot up of 30 rupees
 
Lol we saw their huge jalsas in central punjab. MashaAllah spreading lies. I have not seen any sane educated person supporting and spreading lies so blatantly.

depends, if you consider PTI fans educated or not
 
Isb was handed over to est and there it would have been a clash between insafiyans and the law enforcers so IK took the sane path regarding the supporters of mafia and crooks are concerned many of them have already gone mum due to this shoot up of 30 rupees

if IK was to spit on the ground tomorrow, fans like you would praise it saying that the ground had no water and that IK had to spit to give the ground a source of water and be saved from becoming barren. All heil the holy saliva for making the ground fertile
 
Khan was most likely pushed out by the military because the military wants the government to negotiate and get IMF dollars. The government is here to stay till August 2023 as it is taking difficult decisions.

no one was pushed. Thats the thing.

The only thing that happened was Army stayed neutral. They did not do anything and allowed a natural course of action take place, and the results were infront of you.

Remember, i think it was back in october when Imran pulled off a vote of confidence which he survived. It was reported that the Military made sure the MNAs attended the NA. Even Aamir Liaqut came to cast his vote saying that he received a phone call from THEM to make sure to appear and cast vote.

At that time, not a single pti fan said anything. As soon as military became neutral, the results are infront of us.

The current situation is as such that PTI cant even fund a dharna and have to call it off after a single day.

See the difference in the jalsa/march/dharna when army and tareens funded it and now when the party itself has to fund it illegally through crowdfunding. Crowdfunding itself is not allowed in Pakistan.
 
if IK was to spit on the ground tomorrow, fans like you would praise it saying that the ground had no water and that IK had to spit to give the ground a source of water and be saved from becoming barren. All heil the holy saliva for making the ground fertile

At least he is not criminal. Supporting a criminal is worse than that which you are doing by licking their ....
 
An educated fan supporting criminals like shobaz and zardari are worse than those who with no education supports the truth at least.

Imran won the 2018 election. If he is to lose the next election, would you say it was because of the lack of education of the voters?

In such case, how is it that in 2018 people were educated while in 2023 the same people were not educated.

plz explain
 
Immaturity of PTI can be gauged from they fact that they resigned en masse after NCV, giving the government a freehand to rollback overseas voting rights and introducing amendments to defang NAB. PTI is too pigheaded and lacks clarity of thought.
 
You are still not reading the news bro.

Please educate yourself.

Supporters of Imran Khan are not there for one day - this is a lifelong struggle and only for those who actually believe in Pakistan.

This is the same mindset among Modi Bhakts in India. They think they are the only people who care about India and the rest are all traitors

Both Modi and Imran fans need to come out of this midnset and realise everyone cares for their nations. Just bcoz they disagree with you does not mean they are traitors !
 
This is the same mindset among Modi Bhakts in India. They think they are the only people who care about India and the rest are all traitors

Both Modi and Imran fans need to come out of this midnset and realise everyone cares for their nations. Just bcoz they disagree with you does not mean they are traitors !

As long as there is healthy debate - there is no problem.
 
ironic post. You used the word logic and than continued with illogical wishful thinking.

First of all, punjab is not important due to Punjab assembly, but due to MNA seats. Winning a majority from Punjab and one of the other provinces is enough to make a govt in center.

Second, this govt is not hanging on two votes anymore. This would had been true if PTI did not resign from NA. The biggest own goal that PTI did after the vote of no confidence was resigning from NA. The numbers in NA are reduced hence its no more hanging on two votes.

PMLN has done nothing suicidal. PMLN issue has always been south punjab and if the tareens join force in the election, PMLN can get south punjab aswell

Ok let's talk logic now.

You say Punjab Assembly is not important and only NA seats are. You serious? Do you think PDM would have been able to use excessive force like they did if they didn't had Punjab Govt? You have any idea the size of IK's long march if he has Govt's in KP and Punjab? Also never have I heard of a situation where the dominant party in NA has no government in any province. Simply speaking by just being a NA party PMLN would have nothing to show for so they would be desperate for Punjab. The way I see it Punjab would be gone from PMLN sooner rather than later even if they try their best it would be gone in early July when by-elections would be held. Also fyi, these by-elections in July if they happen will be one of the most tampered and criticized one. I will not be surprised if I see Punjab police use force against women and kids that day too.

Now on your argument regarding votes. Yes its correct PTI resigned from NA. Have you ever thought why PDM is not accepting these resignations? Let me tell you because PTI is an all nation party conducting by-elections on 123 NA seats is next to impossible for NA. The budget for these by-elections would be similar to the budget of full election. I'm all for PDM to accept these resignations and conduct a by-poll and have a real majority in assembly but as I said they simply cannot do that. Also this notion flying around that we would accept resignation on 3 seats or so. This notion is not true because the moment they start accepting resignation all resigned members would turn up at Supreme Court and ask the question why their resignations aren't being accepted when they followed the same process as other 3. Also at that instance PTI members would be happy to show up at Speaker's House to tender an individual interview.

PMLN is on suicidal path let me say that straight off. The final nail in the coffin is the presentation of next budget in June. If PTI can bring out the confidence vote against Shahbaz after the budget presentation and if he ain't able to secure 172 votes then PMLN in next election would struggle to get even 50 seats because during the 3 month period of interim government the inflation bomb would have sunk deep in the society and all of it would be blamed on PMLN. Good luck.
 
Imran won the 2018 election. If he is to lose the next election, would you say it was because of the lack of education of the voters?

In such case, how is it that in 2018 people were educated while in 2023 the same people were not educated.

plz explain

Do not know about the others but surely posters like you and few more are the cases.by the way I usually try not to talk to people who are either criminal minded or supports criminals (both are the same).So will try not to reply to your garbage posts anymore. I have been observing your situation for few months. There must be some psychological issue which I can not solve.
I think [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] and few more will deal with you the way they were doing. Sorry if my words hurt you but it is the way I think .
 
Its a view.

Especially if you feel that there are those who are supporting criminals.

For me supporting criminals is like doing crime ( those who know they are criminals and still support them) like few here in pp.
 
Its a view.

Especially if you feel that there are those who are supporting criminals.

Calling someone Traitor to the nation for not supporting his perspective isn't just a view in my opinion. It's the same philosophy that dictators hold even during world wars and there after. It isn't a healthy debate.
 
Calling someone Traitor to the nation for not supporting his perspective isn't just a view in my opinion. It's the same philosophy that dictators hold even during world wars and there after. It isn't a healthy debate.

Indeed. Hitler circa 1933.
 
Let's see. But he has public support no doubt.

Desi people are emotional. With time, it wears out. People becomes institutionalised even if they don't agree with the circumstances as time progress. The more PDM can buy time, the better for them. Since election is still a year, it can change drastically.
 
Jalsas and protests are not leading indicator of election results. 2013 is good indicator. Plus it's foolhardy to think that these are free and fair elections. Establishment will decide who takes iron throne under their shadow.
 
Desi people are emotional. With time, it wears out. People becomes institutionalised even if they don't agree with the circumstances as time progress. The more PDM can buy time, the better for them. Since election is still a year, it can change drastically.

Lets see but the way things are going PDM would not get anything except establishment support.
 
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