Imran Khan should resign as Prime Minister for letting Nawaz Sharif leave the country

[Technics 1210]

I would if they would act holier than thou and claim that people who support Nawaz and Zardari are complicit in the killing of thousands of poor people.

People who pay taxes to western governments have no right to point fingers at others. It will only expose their double-standards.

I was kind of agreeing with your post until I read the bold sentence. There is no double standard in stating people should be paying taxes. There is nothing to expose. Paying taxes is a tried and tested system which is the bedrock of any successful society/nation. Recall the HMRC Tax breakdown I posted for every UK taxpayer, and yes our taxes are spent on defense, and while we have no choice on what our taxes are spent on, we do have a choice in voting a government which we feel can spend our taxes wisely.

You once stated if you had a choice to be born in any part of the world, you would choose the Nordics. Do you know how much of the Nordics' revenue TAX is spent on defense, and their contribution to NATO forces? I guess the blood on their hands does not matter as-long as you are living in the happiest part of the world.

Meaning it does not matter which part of the world you live in, when you pay taxes, part of your taxes will be spent on defense, but when it comes to supporting corruption and complicit crime, you do have a choice.

 

[Syed1]

I would if they would act holier than thou and claim that people who support Nawaz and Zardari are complicit in the killing of thousands of poor people.

People who pay taxes to western governments have no right to point fingers at others. It will only expose their double-standards.

This might be news for a paindu like you, but paying taxes is not optional in most countries of the world. Only in Pakistan people like you feel it is some massive karnama to pay taxes. No wonder you worship the Sharifs and Bhuttos because they built a system where paying taxes isn't necessary income. Obviously your daddy being regional head of FBR had a part to play in it.

 

[WebGuru]

 

[Mamoon]

I was kind of agreeing with your post until I read the bold sentence. There is no double standard in stating people should be paying taxes. There is nothing to expose. Paying taxes is a tried and tested system which is the bedrock of any successful society/nation. Recall the HMRC Tax breakdown I posted for every UK taxpayer, and yes our taxes are spent on defense, and while we have no choice on what our taxes are spent on, we do have a choice in voting a government which we feel can spend our taxes wisely.

You once stated if you had a choice to be born in any part of the world, you would choose the Nordics. Do you know how much of the Nordics' revenue TAX is spent on defense, and their contribution to NATO forces? I guess the blood on their hands does not matter as-long as you are living in the happiest part of the world.

Meaning it does not matter which part of the world you live in, when you pay taxes, part of your taxes will be spent on defense, but when it comes to supporting corruption and complicit crime, you do have a choice.

This might be news for a paindu like you, but paying taxes is not optional in most countries of the world. Only in Pakistan people like you feel it is some massive karnama to pay taxes. No wonder you worship the Sharifs and Bhuttos because they built a system where paying taxes isn't necessary income. Obviously your daddy being regional head of FBR had a part to play in it.

Yes sky is blue.

Of course you don’t have a choice when it comes to paying taxes in the west, but you do have a choice of whether you live in the west or not.

And people like you have made that choice. You don’t mind Muslims getting killed on your money because the first world benefits and privileges are more important.

A person with higher morals would return from the west because he/she doesn’t want to contribute to the killings of Muslims.

Hence, hypocrites and armchair patriots like you, who have no capacity to walk the talk, have no right of taking the moral high ground and accusing supporters of PMLN and PPP for being complicit in the murder of poor people.

People who support these parties have their reasons just like you have your reasons for living in the west in spite of the fact that your money is being used to kill Muslims.

Please look in the mirror first before blowing your morality trumpet.

 

[Technics 1210]

Yes sky is blue.

Of course you don’t have a choice when it comes to paying taxes in the west, but you do have a choice of whether you live in the west or not.

And people like you have made that choice. You don’t mind Muslims getting killed on your money because the first world benefits and privileges are more important.

A person with higher morals would return from the west because he/she doesn’t want to contribute to the killings of Muslims.

Hence, hypocrites and armchair patriots like you, who have no capacity to walk the talk, have no right of taking the moral high ground and accusing supporters of PMLN and PPP for being complicit in the murder of poor people.

People who support these parties have their reasons just like you have your reasons for living in the west in spite of the fact that your money is being used to kill Muslims.

Please look in the mirror first before blowing your morality trumpet.

Yes we are hypocrites for paying taxes, because you do not.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes sky is blue.

Of course you don’t have a choice when it comes to paying taxes in the west, but you do have a choice of whether you live in the west or not.

And people like you have made that choice. You don’t mind Muslims getting killed on your money because the first world benefits and privileges are more important.

A person with higher morals would return from the west because he/she doesn’t want to contribute to the killings of Muslims.

Hence, hypocrites and armchair patriots like you, who have no capacity to walk the talk, have no right of taking the moral high ground and accusing supporters of PMLN and PPP for being complicit in the murder of poor people.

People who support these parties have their reasons just like you have your reasons for living in the west in spite of the fact that your money is being used to kill Muslims.

Please look in the mirror first before blowing your morality trumpet.

So you are saying that not only are you proudly corrupt, but you have through choice funded the killing of Muslims. What kind of Psycho are you? Is that why you support Hindutuva? Do you not have any moral bones.

 

[srh]

Am I missing something, how was it Imran Khan’s fault to let Nawaz go?The LHC ordered the government to strike his name off.

It is totally Imran Khan's fault to let Nawaz go. LHC never ordered Imran Khan to let Nawaz go. That decision was taken by Imran Khan and he is solely responsible of it. Chief Justice has pointed out this fact and also Imran Khan's lawyers have accepted this fact.

Imran Khan himself knows this fact and now after seeing how Nawz Sharif does not look like a sick man at all, he is p!ssed that he may have been lied to about this whole scenario that Nawaz Sharif is on death bed. The funny thing is it was his own team (politicians and doctors) who confirm that Nawaz Sharif is on death bed so it means that they also lied. Lets see what Imran Khan will do with them.

 

[Hermoine Green]

It is totally Imran Khan's fault to let Nawaz go. LHC never ordered Imran Khan to let Nawaz go. That decision was taken by Imran Khan and he is solely responsible of it. Chief Justice has pointed out this fact and also Imran Khan's lawyers have accepted this fact.

Imran Khan himself knows this fact and now after seeing how Nawz Sharif does not look like a sick man at all, he is p!ssed that he may have been lied to about this whole scenario that Nawaz Sharif is on death bed. The funny thing is it was his own team (politicians and doctors) who confirm that Nawaz Sharif is on death bed so it means that they also lied. Lets see what Imran Khan will do with them.

Imran Khan DID allow NS to travel abroad but with the SURETY bond and which was the main thing. LHC removed that condition.

 

[Hitman]

PM Imran says Nawaz Sharif's illness seemed suspicious by the way he entered plane

In a reference to former prime minister Nawaz Sharif's treatment abroad, Prime Minister Imran Khan said on Friday that just by seeing the way Nawaz climbed the stairs of the plane, made his illness appear dubious.

The prime minister made those remarks while putting the foundation stone for a hospital in Mianwali — his political constituency. At the occasion, he said that his objective is not to "save seat" but to bring about a real change.

While, talking about his arch-rival Nawaz Sharif, the PM said that when he saw the former premier climbing the stairs of the plane he remembered the doctors’ reports.

The prime minister said that in the reports it was written that "the patient had heart problems, kidney problems, high sugar and if the patient is not allowed to go abroad then he will be 'gone' [forever]."

PM Imran wondered if Sharif's recovery is due to the luxurious plane he travelled in or to the London climate. He said that he seeks clarity on the issue and that the matter needs to be investigated.

"After seeing him climb the stairs of the airplane, I once again looked at the medical reports," he said. "The reports said that his heart was also in a bad condition, his kidneys were also not well and he had diabetes. I said to myself 'God is great'," he added.

The prime minister taunted Nawaz again by saying that maybe the PML-N chief had recovered by simply looking at the plane.

"Maybe he looked at the plane and got healed since it was such a magnificent plane," he said. "A common man cannot travel in such an aircraft."

The prime minister launched into a tirade against former finance minister Ishaq Dar and Nawaz's son, Hasan Nawaz.

"Hasan Nawaz lives in a house worth Rs8 billion in London," he said. "Where did that money come from?"

He said that Dar's father owned a bicycle shop but his son had become a billionaire.

"Musharraf gave the Sharifs an NRO," he said. "I am not here to save my seat. If I give these people an NRO, the country will have no future."

Prime Minister Imran said that when he was called to court about his property, he gave 60 documents in 10 months' time.

The premier, apart from the political discourse, also touched upon the quality of healthcare in the region.

He recalled that when he had started his politics 23 years ago he realised that there were no doctors or hospitals in Mianwali.

"I will solve issues relating to healthcare in Mianwali," he said. "Then we will solve the problem of water and education."

Link: https://www.geo.tv/latest/257879-im...ave-his-seat-but-here-to-bring-change-says-pm

 

[uberkoen]

Also the increase in exports (10% in Oct and 5% in 1st quarter) is in dollar terms, but I wouldn't expect a patwari to understand it.

So you realized the mistake you made in your earlier post. Nevermind, I shall forgive that. Secondly, the data isn't correct as it does not match the data published on the official Pakistan statistics website which show USD exports have fallen YOY vs last year and the year before.

As mentioned, Tax collection has gone up but the government failed to meet its targets. Tax collection going up has nothing to do with the government and more to do with the population. The tax collection not meeting its target has everything to do with the government and its policies. Honestly, basic economics and comprehension skills man. I don't understand why I have to spell it out for you lot.

and how conveniently did you ignore the statistics about CPI and Debt per GDP. In real terms, the economic indicators pointed out by the government have no trickle down impact on the masses. It's just pure drama.

 

[Mamoon]

So you are saying that not only are you proudly corrupt, but you have through choice funded the killing of Muslims. What kind of Psycho are you? Is that why you support Hindutuva? Do you not have any moral bones.

I am using the logic of hypocrites like you who don’t lose their sleep over funding the killings of Muslims in the Middle-East but wear their morality hats over the Internet.

For the record, supporting PMLN and PPP (which I don’t, but anyway) doesn’t equate to facilitating the murder of poor people. That is nonsense.

However, having your tax money does fund the killings of Muslims in the Middle-East which is a fact that you cannot deny.

Also, please don’t infest every thread with your Hindutva obsession. I don’t support the rising Hindu nationalism in India, but I think that Pakistan has no credibility in calling them out because they are simply following our footsteps.

India in 2019 is where we were in the 60s, and we have some nerve to criticize them when we are far worse. Our stance on Kashmir and the rising Hindu nationalism is nothing but hypocrisy.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes we are hypocrites for paying taxes, because you do not.

I do, but of course you can say that I don’t because I cannot prove it to you. You can say what you want and you can also have the last word which you love.

Nevertheless, I have written a lot over the negative implications of not paying taxes, and I have also explained why the excuse that since the government is corrupt, the people are justified in not paying their taxes. That is utter nonsense.

The difference between you and me is that your tax money is used to kill Muslims in the Middle-East but mine isn’t. I have a clear conscience and I don’t need to overcompensate my guilt by faking my patriotism over the Internet.

 

[kk1992]

I am using the logic of hypocrites like you who don’t lose their sleep over funding the killings of Muslims in the Middle-East but wear their morality hats over the Internet.

For the record, supporting PMLN and PPP (which I don’t, but anyway) doesn’t equate to facilitating the murder of poor people. That is nonsense.

However, having your tax money does fund the killings of Muslims in the Middle-East which is a fact that you cannot deny.

Also, please don’t infest every thread with your Hindutva obsession. I don’t support the rising Hindu nationalism in India, but I think that Pakistan has no credibility in calling them out because they are simply following our footsteps.

India in 2019 is where we were in the 60s, and we have some nerve to criticize them when we are far worse. Our stance on Kashmir and the rising Hindu nationalism is nothing but hypocrisy.

Corruption doesn't take away the money from poor while poor remain poor and while poor female has to be outside of the hospital to give birth because corruption.

Stop deflecting.

By your logic no nation, country, person or animal has any credibility to condemn because some how and some where their ancestors were involved in some kind of crime.

Good job. lol

 

[Mamoon]

Corruption doesn't take away the money from poor while poor remain poor and while poor female has to be outside of the hospital to give birth because corruption.

Stop deflecting.

By your logic no nation, country, person or animal has any credibility to condemn because some how and some where their ancestors were involved in some kind of crime.

Good job. lol

Ancestors? Our state is currently active in committing human rights violations and denying people their due rights. It is not about their ancestors.

There are types of corruption. Stealing from the poor is terrible and should be condemned, but taking cuts from the rich is not stealing from the poor and it helps the system running.

If you eliminate the second type of corruption, i.e. taking cuts from the rich, the country will come to a halt and nothing will get done here. This type of corruption is an oil that keeps the machine and its parts moving.

It happens in politics as well. Imran’s financier, the fraud Jahangir Tareen who was suspended by the SC for his dishonesty, went across the country to buy the loyalties of electables so that they could join PTI.

That is corruption as well, but necessary corruption. It is not stealing from the poor.

In Pakistan, the rich individuals and the big companies don’t pay their due taxes and keep finding loopholes.

That is why in spite of all the big talk, the revenue collection has seen negative growth under PTI. Why? Because the rich don’t want to pay the tax money that they owe.

In this case, the FBR officers strike deals with the rich and the big companies. Let’s say for simplicity, they owe 50 million and they are not willing to pay.

The officer is under pressure from the government and he has to collect the revenue. So what does he do? He makes a deal.

Instead of 50 million, he asks them to pay 20 million (or the max figure the other party is willing to agree) + a 5 million cut for the officer, who will then write-off the 50 million and and give the 20 million to the government.

Now if this officer doesn’t do this “corruption”, he will go to the government with 0 rupees because the rich man/big company were not willing to pay 50 million.

Now please tell me how is this stealing from the poor? This is a necessity that keeps the system moving, or else you will get negative growth in tax collection.

PTI’s anti-corruption drama is at its peak at the moment, but after a couple of more years of negative growth, the FBR officers will be under pressure to turn the tide.

The rich and the big companies won’t suddenly start paying taxes, so these officers will have no choice but to do “corruption”.

This is how it works.
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION]

This is for you as well.

 

[Technics 1210]

I do, but of course you can say that I don’t because I cannot prove it to you. You can say what you want and you can also have the last word which you love.

Nevertheless, I have written a lot over the negative implications of not paying taxes, and I have also explained why the excuse that since the government is corrupt, the people are justified in not paying their taxes. That is utter nonsense.

The difference between you and me is that your tax money is used to kill Muslims in the Middle-East but mine isn’t. I have a clear conscience and I don’t need to overcompensate my guilt by faking my patriotism over the Internet.

Jackanory, story.

How can anyone who hates Pakistan, who categorically states he is the most unluckiest person in the world because he was born a Pakistani, who supports corruption, and crooked leaders, would see any benefit in paying taxes towards the prosperity of Pakistan? This was a rhetorical question, meaning no need to answer it.

Now go back to bed.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Corruption doesn't take away the money from poor while poor remain poor and while poor female has to be outside of the hospital to give birth because corruption.

Stop deflecting.

By your logic no nation, country, person or animal has any credibility to condemn because some how and some where their ancestors were involved in some kind of crime.

Good job. lol

As long as you are benefitting from the fruits of previous injustice, you need to carry the burden of it on your conscience. Accept it and Do something to recompense.

If you cant see the link, perhaps you ve no conscience.

 

[kk1992]

Ancestors? Our state is currently active in committing human rights violations and denying people their due rights. It is not about their ancestors.

There are types of corruption. Stealing from the poor is terrible and should be condemned, but taking cuts from the rich is not stealing from the poor and it helps the system running.

If you eliminate the second type of corruption, i.e. taking cuts from the rich, the country will come to a halt and nothing will get done here. This type of corruption is an oil that keeps the machine and its parts moving.

It happens in politics as well. Imran’s financier, the fraud Jahangir Tareen who was suspended by the SC for his dishonesty, went across the country to buy the loyalties of electables so that they could join PTI.

That is corruption as well, but necessary corruption. It is not stealing from the poor.

In Pakistan, the rich individuals and the big companies don’t pay their due taxes and keep finding loopholes.

That is why in spite of all the big talk, the revenue collection has seen negative growth under PTI. Why? Because the rich don’t want to pay the tax money that they owe.

In this case, the FBR officers strike deals with the rich and the big companies. Let’s say for simplicity, they owe 50 million and they are not willing to pay.

The officer is under pressure from the government and he has to collect the revenue. So what does he do? He makes a deal.

Instead of 50 million, he asks them to pay 20 million (or the max figure the other party is willing to agree) + a 5 million cut for the officer, who will then write-off the 50 million and and give the 20 million to the government.

Now if this officer doesn’t do this “corruption”, he will go to the government with 0 rupees because the rich man/big company were not willing to pay 50 million.

Now please tell me how is this stealing from the poor? This is a necessity that keeps the system moving, or else you will get negative growth in tax collection.

PTI’s anti-corruption drama is at its peak at the moment, but after a couple of more years of negative growth, the FBR officers will be under pressure to turn the tide.

The rich and the big companies won’t suddenly start paying taxes, so these officers will have no choice but to do “corruption”.

This is how it works.

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION]

This is for you as well.

Which group of People in Pakistan are prevented from their day to day business or were locked up in open jail or deprived of basic necessities.

On corruption, you are wasting everyone time, I understand that you have bob and weave, jump from side to side, change narrative from one to another.

 

[Mamoon]

Jackanory, story.

How can anyone who hates Pakistan, who categorically states he is the most unluckiest person in the world because he was born a Pakistani, who supports corruption, and crooked leaders, would see any benefit in paying taxes towards the prosperity of Pakistan? This was a rhetorical question, meaning no need to answer it.

Now go back to bed.

Because I don’t pay taxes to see Pakistan prosper. I pay taxes because I don’t want Pakistan to collapse while we (me, my family, our assets) are in the country. It is purely for selfish reasons because I have vehemently declared on multiple occasions that I have no love for the country itself.

Both of us are actually similar. We both don’t love the country and we are both selfish, but only one of us is honest about it. If you loved the country and weren’t selfish, you would give your job in the UK, stop paying taxes to kill the Muslims of the Middle-East and return to the country that you pretend to love and make practical contributions.

Now please don’t bore my pants off with the remittance nonsense. Yawn.

 

[Mamoon]

Which group of People in Pakistan are prevented from their day to day business or were locked up in open jail or deprived of basic necessities.

On corruption, you are wasting everyone time, I understand that you have bob and weave, jump from side to side, change narrative from one to another.

The poor people suffer from the incompetence of the government not because of the deals that I mentioned. For example, the poor people are currently suffering under the “honest” government of PTI because of the price hikes.

The doubling of the prices of basic necessities has the biggest impact on the lives of the poor people. Currently, the poor people can’t even buy tomatoes.

Do you think they give a rat’s behind to the assumption that the FBR officers did not strike deals in 2018-2019?

Stop living in a fantasy world and educate yourself on the ground realities.

 

[Bewal Express]

The poor people suffer from the incompetence of the government not because of the deals that I mentioned. For example, the poor people are currently suffering under the “honest” government of PTI because of the price hikes.

The doubling of the prices of basic necessities has the biggest impact on the lives of the poor people. Currently, the poor people can’t even buy tomatoes.

Do you think they give a rat’s behind to the assumption that the FBR officers did not strike deals in 2018-2019?

Stop living in a fantasy world and educate yourself on the ground realities.

Why have prices risen? Why do you run when asked?

 

[srh]

Imran Khan DID allow NS to travel abroad but with the SURETY bond and which was the main thing. LHC removed that condition.

Yes LHC removed that condition but that does not mean LHC ordered Imran Khan to allow Nawaz Sharif to go abroad.

Imran Khan could have simply said I will not allow Nawaz Sharif to go abroad, then PML-N would have been forced to go back to LHC court and ask it to order Imran Khan to allow Nawaz Sharif to go abroad. But things did not reach that point and instead Imran Khan allow Nawaz Sharif to go abroad. So it was Imran Khan who is solely responsible for sending a convicted criminal who has allegedly looted huge amount of money from Pakistan, to go abroad. Chief Justice of Pakistan said the same thing, Imran Khan's lawyers said the same thing; basically Nawaz Sharif fooled Imran Khan.

 

[kk1992]

The poor people suffer from the incompetence of the government not because of the deals that I mentioned. For example, the poor people are currently suffering under the “honest” government of PTI because of the price hikes.

The doubling of the prices of basic necessities has the biggest impact on the lives of the poor people. Currently, the poor people can’t even buy tomatoes.

Do you think they give a rat’s behind to the assumption that the FBR officers did not strike deals in 2018-2019?

Stop living in a fantasy world and educate yourself on the ground realities.

Seriously anyone with a minute understanding of economy and particularly Pakistans’ wouldn’t be making the comments you have made to defend their stance against government.

You are looking for controversy and comments so you can be entertained and I won’t entertain.

I’m not living in fantasy land, I understand current economy situation and I also understand why Pakistan is facing current economy hardship, but you’re pretending to live in fantasy land for entertainment.

Honestly you’ve no solid narrative left to criticize PTI, noting, you will come up with petty comments and thread here and there and that’s about it.

Accept the reality, NS, SS, Maryum and Bilawal will never be PM of Pakistan and IK isn’t going no where.

Lol at trying to defend your comment with tomatoes prices, hahaha

 

[Bewal Express]

Ancestors? Our state is currently active in committing human rights violations and denying people their due rights. It is not about their ancestors.

There are types of corruption. Stealing from the poor is terrible and should be condemned, but taking cuts from the rich is not stealing from the poor and it helps the system running.

If you eliminate the second type of corruption, i.e. taking cuts from the rich, the country will come to a halt and nothing will get done here. This type of corruption is an oil that keeps the machine and its parts moving.

It happens in politics as well. Imran’s financier, the fraud Jahangir Tareen who was suspended by the SC for his dishonesty, went across the country to buy the loyalties of electables so that they could join PTI.

That is corruption as well, but necessary corruption. It is not stealing from the poor.

In Pakistan, the rich individuals and the big companies don’t pay their due taxes and keep finding loopholes.

That is why in spite of all the big talk, the revenue collection has seen negative growth under PTI. Why? Because the rich don’t want to pay the tax money that they owe.

In this case, the FBR officers strike deals with the rich and the big companies. Let’s say for simplicity, they owe 50 million and they are not willing to pay.

The officer is under pressure from the government and he has to collect the revenue. So what does he do? He makes a deal.

Instead of 50 million, he asks them to pay 20 million (or the max figure the other party is willing to agree) + a 5 million cut for the officer, who will then write-off the 50 million and and give the 20 million to the government.

Now if this officer doesn’t do this “corruption”, he will go to the government with 0 rupees because the rich man/big company were not willing to pay 50 million.

Now please tell me how is this stealing from the poor? This is a necessity that keeps the system moving, or else you will get negative growth in tax collection.

PTI’s anti-corruption drama is at its peak at the moment, but after a couple of more years of negative growth, the FBR officers will be under pressure to turn the tide.

The rich and the big companies won’t suddenly start paying taxes, so these officers will have no choice but to do “corruption”.

This is how it works.

[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION]

This is for you as well.

It's a system that has taken decades to evolve and it will take years to fix. What you are saying is to do nothing. Let's give up and worship at the feet of the Sharifs and Zardaris. If this is what you want, well that's your problem. I want the PTI to reform and if they don't, I want some other guys to offer reform and they will get my support. Each country goes through these pains but unlike you they don't start licking their oppressors, they replace them, and you keep doing it until you get the leaders that will. You are coward, you support the people that created the system and don't want any change because you and your ilk lose out. The FBR should sack all the officers and rehire, offering better salaries but expecting honesty. It won't happen overnight but it can be done, if the guys at the top are honest.
A few weeks My "uncle" phoned me and said bad news Koti ground rent have gone up to 45000 rps in Islamabad, I said uncle we can afford to pay, I am happy to pay taxes in the UK, why do you think its bad news. He like you hates paying taxes but wants NS in power.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

It's so easy to talk big when you're not even in Pakistan. I could sit in the grand old United Kingdom and keep talking about Pakistan without being aware of the ground realities or being exposed to everything that is happening there.

Maybe he’s got a Pakistani wife, that’s enough exposure!

 

[Syed1]

It's so easy to talk big when you're not even in Pakistan. I could sit in the grand old United Kingdom and keep talking about Pakistan without being aware of the ground realities or being exposed to everything that is happening there.

Actually Pakistan would be better off if it had less people like you who worship those that had ruined the country for more than 3 decades. Please do the country a favour and move out.

 

[foulu]

Yes sky is blue.

Of course you don’t have a choice when it comes to paying taxes in the west, but you do have a choice of whether you live in the west or not.

And people like you have made that choice. You don’t mind Muslims getting killed on your money because the first world benefits and privileges are more important.

A person with higher morals would return from the west because he/she doesn’t want to contribute to the killings of Muslims.

Hence, hypocrites and armchair patriots like you, who have no capacity to walk the talk, have no right of taking the moral high ground and accusing supporters of PMLN and PPP for being complicit in the murder of poor people.

People who support these parties have their reasons just like you have your reasons for living in the west in spite of the fact that your money is being used to kill Muslims.

Please look in the mirror first before blowing your morality trumpet.

Top post.

 

[uberkoen]

Actually Pakistan would be better off if it had less people like you who worship those that had ruined the country for more than 3 decades. Please do the country a favour and move out.

Haye mera pyara bacha. Itna ghusa.

I'm going to have to school you again here munnay like I've done so many times previously because now it appears that not only your political, historical and economical knowledge is horrible but also your mathematical.

Though Nawaz was elected for three terms, he was allowed to rule as PM for only 8.5 years. 1990-1993, 1997-1999 and 2013-2017.

He was CM Punjab for 5 years 1985-1990.

His brother's tenure as CM was co terminus on two occasions 97-99 and 13-18 (which was overlapping with Nawaz as PM, I thought I'd mention it just in case you missed that fact) and once independently 2008-2013.

How these numbers add up to 3 decades is beyond me. At least get the numbers right genius.

 

[Technics 1210]

So when the purveyors of corruption and crooks are put to task they run, and hide, behind Google? All the time to post on a UK forum, but no time to back their filthy lies.

So much for the ground realities these people falsely claim. Though it is true, that the life of Nooras and crooks are tougher now! All that corrupt tax free money stashed away and they're complaining about the price of tomatoes. Love it! )

 

[Mian]

So when the purveyors of corruption and crooks are put to task they run, and hide, behind Google? All the time to post on a UK forum, but no time to back their filthy lies.

So much for the ground realities these people falsely claim. Though it is true, that the life of Nooras and crooks are tougher now! All that corrupt tax free money stashed away and they're complaining about the price of tomatoes. Love it! )

In the economy thread this guy first rejected AKD claims about economy because they were pro Govt so he refused it saying he is a business and not an economist and numbers are wrong but in next post when this guy was asked to explain he said use Google

How can you be this dumb if you are rejecting something you need to have a better understanding of the topic and if you have a better understanding of the topic go ahead and explain why you this AKD is wrong and you are right!

 

[Technics 1210]

Because I don’t pay taxes to see Pakistan prosper. .

More incessant yapping.

You have just admitted you never paid taxes in your life, but now you do because you are scared of Imran Khan coming after family's assets.

It makes sense now, you voted for Imran Khan/PTI, twice, but now despise him because he is after the beneficiaries of corruption, and you ill-gained assets.

I love it, you finally exposed yourself.

)

 

[Technics 1210]

In the economy thread this guy first rejected AKD claims about economy because they were pro Govt so he refused it saying he is a business and not an economist and numbers are wrong but in next post when this guy was asked to explain he said use Google

How can you be this dumb if you are rejecting something you need to have a better understanding of the topic and if you have a better understanding of the topic go ahead and explain why you this AKD is wrong and you are right!

They are used to counting brown envelopes, not actual numbers, which is why said people humiliate themselves. I mean it takes a Canadian, and a Brit, to totally dispose these Noora foot soldiers who claim they have boots on the ground in Pakistan. More like boots in the their backside.

Remember, these guys spell economy with a K.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Naivety of some here is beyond belief. Sitting in a foreign country its easy to tossup these Mickey mouse figures, whereas in reality ordinary Pakistanis are fed up with all these broken promises of Imran Khan. Joblessness and inflation is record high and Pakistanis is in more deeper in debt. The Privileged army with its stooges like Imran will run Pakistan to the ground.

Anyone who criticises PTI is automatically a Noon league and Zardari supporter for them. If next elections are free from Army’s manipulation Imran and his gang of Lotas will be back to where they were before this election. He never was and is not the real alternative Leadership that people hoped for.

 

[Mian]

Naivety of some here is beyond belief. Sitting in a foreign country its easy to tossup these Mickey mouse figures, whereas in reality ordinary Pakistanis are fed up with all these broken promises of Imran Khan. Joblessness and inflation is record high and Pakistanis is in more deeper in debt. The Privileged army with its stooges like Imran will run Pakistan to the ground.

Hello i am in Pakistan and i know the ground realities and i know where Noora left my country in the last year. You are the one sitting in Surrey England

 

[Knight_Rider]

Hello i am in Pakistan and i know the ground realities and i know where Noora left my country in the last year. You are the one sitting in Surrey England

I was in Pakistan last month and most ppl i met were unhappy with PTIs government. As for Noora, why and How did he manage to leave without returning anything?

As a matter of fact ppl like yourself are just typical examples of Nawaz worshipers. Only difference is that you seem to have found a newer model of Messiah.

 

[WebGuru]

Naivety of some here is beyond belief. Sitting in a foreign country its easy to tossup these Mickey mouse figures, whereas in reality ordinary Pakistanis are fed up with all these broken promises of Imran Khan. Joblessness and inflation is record high and Pakistanis is in more deeper in debt. The Privileged army with its stooges like Imran will run Pakistan to the ground.

Anyone who criticises PTI is automatically a Noon league and Zardari supporter for them. If next elections are free from Army’s manipulation Imran and his gang of Lotas will be back to where they were before this election. He never was and is not the real alternative Leadership that people hoped for.

North Punjabi here spent all my life in Pakistan and voted in 3 different General Elections and 1 LB Election. My family are mostly ex PMLN voters and even with all these tough decisions from current Govt to put country back on track if you ask them to vote today they will all vote for PTI because they are not ready to get fooled by those who looted the country for decades and want answers from someone running the country from 1 year.

 

[Mian]

I was in Pakistan last month and most ppl i met were unhappy with PTIs government. As for Noora, why and How did he manage to leave without returning anything?

As a matter of fact ppl like yourself are just typical examples of Nawaz worshipers. Only difference is that you seem to have found a newer model of Messiah.

It happens after every election in Pakistan. From my memory people cheered the coming of Musharraf and than wanted him to leave because of mehngaai then it was PPP and within 1 year people were so fedup and it declared the worst govt ever and media was sending them home every day in their shows. Then came PMLN same story and now PTI our people want results within 1 year. In 90s two Govt had to go home within 2 years because people didn't mind Army throwing the govts out they actually supported army because they were unhappy i still remember like yesterday all the mathai on roads when Musharraf kicked out Nawaz.

 

[Technics 1210]

Loving it [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] and [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] bhaio! You guys are too brutal, but I guess this is the power of the truth!

I doubt any false flagger has the sand to challenge your POVs.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Back to the original Q of the thread:

Why and How did Nawaz Sharif manage to leave without returning anything?

 

[kk1992]

Back to the original Q of the thread:

Why and How did Nawaz Sharif manage to leave without returning anything?

Why, because he was sick.

How, on a plane.

 

[pakistanisgreat]

Government let Nawaz go. They are the one to blame. First of all why did IK decided to let Nawaz go for the treatment for the humanitarian base?

 

[Technics 1210]

Back to the original Q of the thread:

Why and How did Nawaz Sharif manage to leave without returning anything?

Why back to the original Q? You posted some Hail Mary routine and got owned by 2 Pakistanis, boots on the ground. Why do you not counter their POV? I tell you why, you are a paid shill.

Knight Rider? More like Blight Rider.

 

[Knight_Rider]

Government let Nawaz go. They are the one to blame. First of all why did IK decided to let Nawaz go for the treatment for the humanitarian base?

Exactly. Nawaz must ve paid something under the table to someone. The question is where is that bail out money? Only someone totally insane would believe that Nawaz was let go totally Scott free.

Uppar se not too long ago during his US trip Imran Khan was making claims that he will get the AC and other luxuries out of Nawaz jail cell. Aur ab yeh.. Sharam inn ko magar nahee aati..

 

[pakistanisgreat]

Exactly. Nawaz must ve paid something under the table to someone. The question is where is that bail out money? Only someone totally insane would believe that Nawaz was let go totally Scott free.

Uppar se not too long ago during his US trip Imran Khan was making claims that he will get the AC and other luxuries out of Nawaz jail cell. Aur ab yeh.. Sharam inn ko magar nahee aati..

exactly, if they think Nawaz and other leader are corrupt, then Ik should punish them instead asking them give money and leave the country? They have so much money to give it back and run away. if they think they are corrupt then punish them for the sake of poor awam. Ibrat ka nishan bano.